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(Mental Floss)   As you prepare for the Annual Gluttony Olympics that is Thanksgiving, have you ever wondered how our "traditional" feast menu became traditional in the first place? Still no explanation for green bean casserole, though   (mentalfloss.com) divider line 52
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2013-11-26 09:21:36 AM  
The explanation is that it's delicious.
 
2013-11-26 09:23:36 AM  
he birds are large enough that they can feed a table full of hungry family members, and unlike chickens or cows, they didn't serve much utilitarian purpose like laying eggs or making milk.


Turkeys don't lay eggs?
 
2013-11-26 09:26:18 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: he birds are large enough that they can feed a table full of hungry family members, and unlike chickens or cows, they didn't serve much utilitarian purpose like laying eggs or making milk.


Turkeys don't lay eggs?


I milked a turkey, once. The nipples are really small, but it can be done.

As for eggs, I've never really given any thought to turkey eggs. Are they somehow inedible?
 
2013-11-26 09:28:13 AM  
Green been casserole is fine. The true Thanksgiving atrocity is cauliflower mashed potatoes, the presence of which should be viewed as an act of war.
 
2013-11-26 09:28:49 AM  
Been...bean...feh.
 
2013-11-26 09:28:58 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: he birds are large enough that they can feed a table full of hungry family members, and unlike chickens or cows, they didn't serve much utilitarian purpose like laying eggs or making milk.


Turkeys don't lay eggs?


They do but are bad at it. Or, rather, they don't lay nearly as many eggs as chickens and turkey require more food to survive so turkey eggs are far more expensive to produce without being much better. Keeping a turkey for it's eggs wouldn't be very productive.
 
2013-11-26 09:29:36 AM  

Vodka Zombie: Rev. Skarekroe: he birds are large enough that they can feed a table full of hungry family members, and unlike chickens or cows, they didn't serve much utilitarian purpose like laying eggs or making milk.


Turkeys don't lay eggs?

I milked a turkey, once. The nipples are really small, but it can be done.

As for eggs, I've never really given any thought to turkey eggs. Are they somehow inedible?


They're probably delicious but they may just lay them too infrequently to make them affordable.

Also, green bean casserole is delicious.
 
2013-11-26 09:29:56 AM  
You shut your whore mouth about my green bean casserole, Schlubby.
 
2013-11-26 09:31:38 AM  
Green bean casserole is an abomination and you people are sick.
 
2013-11-26 09:32:13 AM  
Green bean casserole sucks. Green beans covered in vomit.
 
2013-11-26 09:33:37 AM  
I'd prefer an good HL.  But that's just me.
 
2013-11-26 09:33:50 AM  
My mother turned up her nose at green bean casserole, until I told her I had made the mushroom soup myself from scratch and the green beans were fresh out of the garden. Then it didn't sound so bad to her.

/The fried onions were still canned, though, as God intended.
 
2013-11-26 09:34:39 AM  
What is this mythical thing called a casserole? It seems to me that if you put something in a pan with a bunch of cream of something soup and bake it you call it a hotdish...
 
2013-11-26 09:34:45 AM  
The only thing worse than green bean casserole is squash
 
2013-11-26 09:36:46 AM  
We're going with a clambake this year, because that's probably closer to what the Pilgrims ate and also turkey sucks.
 
2013-11-26 09:38:17 AM  

Bugerz: What is this mythical thing called a casserole? It seems to me that if you put something in a pan with a bunch of cream of something soup and bake it you call it a hotdish...


You from the midwest?  Minnesota, maybe?
 
2013-11-26 09:38:26 AM  
I substitute cream of chicken and cream of celery for the usual nasty cream of mushroom in my casserole.  It's a vast improvement.  Also a little cheddar cheese and bread crumbs (for texture) in the mix doesn't hurt either.
 
2013-11-26 09:41:24 AM  

KingKauff: The only thing worse than green bean casserole is squash


Agreed. Squash is the food they serve you in hell.
 
2013-11-26 09:41:32 AM  
because I am a Good Friend, I maded a pumpkin pie when we were invited to an american friend's thanksgiving dinner in london.

blimey i felt the pressure though. I practised. the pie served was pie number 3.
 
2013-11-26 09:41:42 AM  

eraser8: Bugerz: What is this mythical thing called a casserole? It seems to me that if you put something in a pan with a bunch of cream of something soup and bake it you call it a hotdish...

You from the midwest?  Minnesota, maybe?


So minnesotan I even water my coffee down before drinking it.
 
2013-11-26 09:45:42 AM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: KingKauff: The only thing worse than green bean casserole is squash

Agreed. Squash is the food they serve you in hell.


i would have agreed with you many years ago, but actually, if you can cook, or know someone who can and likes you enough to have you round, squash can be delicious.

pasta stuffed with squash is yum. as is squash soup, with a parmesan cream. squash success of 2013 though at the Lady J household, was squash ice cream. don't knock it til you've tried it.

/i love food discussions
 
2013-11-26 09:48:47 AM  
I don't believe I have ever seen a green bean casserole that wasn't on the teevee or in an advertisement.
 
2013-11-26 09:50:10 AM  
Why is it every year there has to be one of these articles? I don't really give a shiat what the original pilgrims ate for thanksgiving, I like turkey, cranberry sauce, pumpkin pie and everything else and I don't give one flying fark when the tradition started.

Up next, how Christmas was originally a pagan holiday and blah blah who the hell cares...
 
2013-11-26 09:52:58 AM  
LOL.  Just saw this pop up in Sleepy Hollow last night.  After a reference to a modern Thanksgiving based on "what the Pilgrims ate," Ichabod points out that they ate venison, maybe pheasant, and didn't have sugar for a sauce let alone a pie.
 
2013-11-26 09:55:24 AM  
Just lightly steam the green beans and toss them with crumbled bacon. No reason to ruin them with cream of mushroom soup.
 
2013-11-26 09:58:10 AM  

2wolves: I'd prefer an good HJ.  But that's just me.


FTFM
 
2013-11-26 09:58:14 AM  
i don't care what the pilgrims ate with the natives. i wasn't alive back then. i don't know anyone who was alive back then. i was born on thanksgiving day 1975, and certain food items have been constant on my birthday celebration weeks for 38 years...turkey, ham, pies, various potato dishes, etc...and some things have been added over the years, like green bean casserole. i like most of it, and it is "traditional" in the sense that it's what i've eaten this time of year EVERY year of my life.

i am also a big "bah humbug" guy toward christmas until the day after thanksgiving...thanksgiving is MY holiday, dagnabit!
 
2013-11-26 10:02:22 AM  
My "traditional menu" looks nothing like your "traditional menu", thankfully.
 
2013-11-26 10:05:30 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: I don't believe I have ever seen a green bean casserole that wasn't on the teevee or in an advertisement.


It's how you waste both green beans and French fried onions. The former should be lightly steamed, perhaps with a bit of hock or bacon, and the latter should just be eaten out of the goddamned canister like you were starving and the world had ended about a month ago.
 
2013-11-26 10:09:30 AM  

Lady J: To The Escape Zeppelin!: KingKauff: The only thing worse than green bean casserole is squash

Agreed. Squash is the food they serve you in hell.

i would have agreed with you many years ago, but actually, if you can cook, or know someone who can and likes you enough to have you round, squash can be delicious.

pasta stuffed with squash is yum. as is squash soup, with a parmesan cream. squash success of 2013 though at the Lady J household, was squash ice cream. don't knock it til you've tried it.

/i love food discussions


Spaghetti squash is a surprisingly good 'n healthy alternative to regular pasta.
 
2013-11-26 10:16:36 AM  
My understanding of the "tradition" of green bean casserole is that it's the dish assigned to the newly-wed couple in the family. It serves the functions of:
1. A dish that won't break the bank of the couple just starting out.
2. If the daughter or daughter-in-law can't cook there's no real loss since no one likes green bean casserole anyway.

If it turns out she can cook they will be "upgraded" to mashed potatoes the following year. If not, they will be stuck with green bean casserole until another newly-wed couple joins the family. Then they may be assigned to bring a store-bought pie.
 
2013-11-26 10:17:03 AM  

FormlessOne: My "traditional menu" looks nothing like your "traditional menu", thankfully.


My menu Thursday will probably be a bacon cheeseburger with chili cheese fries.  Why yes, I will be at a sports bar watching football.
 
2013-11-26 10:17:51 AM  
As you prefer for the Annual Gluttony Olympics that is Thanksgiving, have you ever wondered how our "traditional" feast menu became traditional in the first place? Still no explanation for green bean casserole, though

prepare,  the word is prepare
 
2013-11-26 10:18:47 AM  

docmattic: Lady J: To The Escape Zeppelin!: KingKauff: The only thing worse than green bean casserole is squash

Agreed. Squash is the food they serve you in hell.

i would have agreed with you many years ago, but actually, if you can cook, or know someone who can and likes you enough to have you round, squash can be delicious.

pasta stuffed with squash is yum. as is squash soup, with a parmesan cream. squash success of 2013 though at the Lady J household, was squash ice cream. don't knock it til you've tried it.

/i love food discussions

Spaghetti squash is a surprisingly good 'n healthy alternative to regular pasta.


il bet! courgettini is similar. although for maximum delishusness you unhealthy it right back up again with pesto

belly pork, potato rosti, and courgettini with pesto, for example. [homer]drooooool[/homer]
 
2013-11-26 10:21:47 AM  

Ned Stark: The explanation is that it's delicious.


I disagree. The traditional thanksgiving dinner isn't really all that special.  It can be tasty if done well but it's in no way superior to non-traditional thanksgiving foods.  There is a reason we ionly make some of these dishes a few times a year, they are a lot of work, some of them are difficult to cook properly and generally not as tasty as many simpler, cheaper, more reliable dishes.
 
2013-11-26 10:27:25 AM  

Lady J: docmattic: Lady J: To The Escape Zeppelin!: KingKauff: The only thing worse than green bean casserole is squash

Agreed. Squash is the food they serve you in hell.

i would have agreed with you many years ago, but actually, if you can cook, or know someone who can and likes you enough to have you round, squash can be delicious.

pasta stuffed with squash is yum. as is squash soup, with a parmesan cream. squash success of 2013 though at the Lady J household, was squash ice cream. don't knock it til you've tried it.

/i love food discussions

Spaghetti squash is a surprisingly good 'n healthy alternative to regular pasta.

il bet! courgettini is similar. although for maximum delishusness you unhealthy it right back up again with pesto

belly pork, potato rosti, and courgettini with pesto, for example. [homer]drooooool[/homer]


Love Rösti!!! Yum....
 
2013-11-26 10:35:23 AM  
Actually, Subby, Alton Brown explains where the green bean casserole came from. It was invented in a marketing campaign by Campbell's soup, They published a cook book that featured their condensed soups back in the 50's (I think it was the 50's). The green bean casserole was one of the recipes.
 
2013-11-26 10:38:20 AM  

Cortez the Killer: Actually, Subby, Alton Brown explains where the green bean casserole came from. It was invented in a marketing campaign by Campbell's soup, They published a cook book that featured their condensed soups back in the 50's (I think it was the 50's). The green bean casserole was one of the recipes.


i knew (and/or assumed) all of that except the 50's. i never even heard of g.b. casserole until about 10 - 15 years ago, and have been eating it pretty much since then. my 1st wife made it (in a smaller portion, not a huge casserole) at least once every couple of weeks as a side dish for dinner.
 
2013-11-26 10:50:51 AM  

Fatbeard: My understanding of the "tradition" of green bean casserole is that it's the dish assigned to the newly-wed couple in the family. It serves the functions of:
1. A dish that won't break the bank of the couple just starting out.
2. If the daughter or daughter-in-law can't cook there's no real loss since no one likes green bean casserole anyway.

If it turns out she can cook they will be "upgraded" to mashed potatoes the following year. If not, they will be stuck with green bean casserole until another newly-wed couple joins the family. Then they may be assigned to bring a store-bought pie.


Mental Floss actually has another article up today that explains where the green bean casserole came from:  http://mentalfloss.com/article/20440/5-beloved-traditions-invented-ma k e-you-buy-stuff
 
2013-11-26 10:54:08 AM  
I excused my way out of the out-of-state family gathering, this year.  Which was a good thing, because travel conditions really suck, both here and where I'd have to drive.

/going with microwaveable Turkey Day food

//ads microwaveable GB casserole to the shopping list
 
2013-11-26 10:59:43 AM  

bungle_jr: Cortez the Killer: Actually, Subby, Alton Brown explains where the green bean casserole came from. It was invented in a marketing campaign by Campbell's soup, They published a cook book that featured their condensed soups back in the 50's (I think it was the 50's). The green bean casserole was one of the recipes.

i knew (and/or assumed) all of that except the 50's. i never even heard of g.b. casserole until about 10 - 15 years ago, and have been eating it pretty much since then. my 1st wife made it (in a smaller portion, not a huge casserole) at least once every couple of weeks as a side dish for dinner.


Yeah, we make it every so often as a side dish. I like GBC, assuming it was made with fresh ingredients and not canned soup, canned beans, and canned fried onions.
 
2013-11-26 11:08:29 AM  
It's called Turkey Day.  What else would you serve?  It's not called Ham Day.
 
2013-11-26 11:50:44 AM  
Pocket Ninja:  The true Thanksgiving atrocity is cauliflower mashed potatoes, the presence of which should be viewed as an act of war.

Turer words have never been spoken.

/I'm bringing the green bean casserole.
//I like a little parmesan on top.
 
2013-11-26 11:51:38 AM  
Dammit.  TRUER.

/preview is my friend.
//I even looked at it twice.
 
2013-11-26 12:00:28 PM  
To The Escape Zeppelin!: KingKauff: The only thing worse than green bean casserole is squash

Agreed. Squash is the food they serve you in hell.


The hell you say. Slice it longways, dab with olive oil, sprinkle with salt and pepper. Throw on the grill.

It will change your life.
 
2013-11-26 12:08:47 PM  
Thanksgiving traditions?

If you don't know why this picture is in a post about Thanksgiving traditions, ask your parents.
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Then ask your grandparents what this has to do with the draft.
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2013-11-26 12:12:41 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Green been casserole is fine. The true Thanksgiving atrocity is cauliflower mashed potatoes, the presence of which should be viewed as an act of war.


This is true. The only things that should be added to mashed potatoes are chicken stock and butter.

And parsnips and turnips, of course, but that goes without saying. Oh, and chives. Fresh cracked pepper, and a dollop of sour cream. Maybe a little shredded cheddar.
 
2013-11-26 12:15:24 PM  
Is this the thread where I get all Food-Blogger-Aggro about how much better my food is than everyone else's?
 
2013-11-26 12:52:29 PM  
Vodka Zombie:

I milked a turkey, once. The nipples are really small, but it can be done.


www.monologuedb.com
 
2013-11-26 12:53:27 PM  

Bugerz: What is this mythical thing called a casserole? It seems to me that if you put something in a pan with a bunch of cream of something soup and bake it you call it a hotdish...


There are those who call it... cream of crap.
 
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