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(Denver Post)   Denver City Council votes to ban pot smoking on private property, "I really believe if the front of your property is open, it is public"   (denverpost.com) divider line 114
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2013-11-26 07:16:31 AM
The Denver City Council on Monday gave initial approval to banning smoking marijuana on private property if visible from the street or sidewalk.


I don't know who's concern trolling harder, subby or the City Council.
 
2013-11-26 07:27:47 AM
"I really believe (that if) the front of your property is open, it is public," said Councilwoman Jeanne Robb, who offered the amendment. "It does set the standard. I am trying to balance the rights of those who consume marijuana and those who want to protect some enjoyment of their own property."

If you can't search it without a warrant, it ain't "public", you worthless overreaching douchenozzle.

Why don't they just come right out and say they've got to make up for all the pot fines they're not pulling down any more?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-11-26 07:34:27 AM
I think this is a [FOLLOWUP]. Certainly not a [FAIL], unless that means "something a Farker would disapprove of if he weren't too wasted to care."

In Massachusetts cities discovered decriminalization only applied to possession, so they banned smoking.
 
2013-11-26 07:35:22 AM
I have to agree with Councilwoman Jeanne Robb, legal definitions should be whatever we feel they should be.  If you believe it strongly enough, it should be law.
 
2013-11-26 07:36:17 AM
Vaporize. Smoking anything is not good for you.
 
2013-11-26 07:36:47 AM
Well, this is going to put the state or federal court that eventually has to review this law in kind of an awkward position, isn't it?

On the one hand, blatantly illegal (violation of the 4th amendment clearer than I've seen basically ever, essentially completely undefendable in court).

On the other hand, the same federal law that provides said amendment/rights also prohibits smoking marijuana in general, so technically this is just a specific case of the overall law the court's supposed to uphold.

So... what?  They strike it down, but say in the opinion that it's because it's redundant, not a 4th amendment issue?
 
2013-11-26 07:37:13 AM
Do you REALLY need to smoke your weed on the front porch?

/invest in some blinds and smoke in your living room.
//weed smoke doesn't ruin your house like tobacco smoke does.
 
2013-11-26 07:37:32 AM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: I have to agree with Councilwoman Jeanne Robb, legal definitions should be whatever we feel they should be.  If you believe it strongly enough, it should be law.


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"C'mon, Wendy! Let's make some law!"
 
2013-11-26 07:38:18 AM
So I can sit in my front yard in a speedo, pounding beers, and smoking cigars, but can't enjoy my sweet sweet vaporizer?

/Denver I'm warning you. You don't want me to break out my speedo.
 
2013-11-26 07:39:08 AM

fluffy2097: Do you REALLY need to smoke your weed on the front porch?

/invest in some blinds and smoke in your living room.
//weed smoke doesn't ruin your house like tobacco smoke does.


Hey man, if like everyone sat outside and toked up we could like hotbox the entire planet, man. The ENTIRE PLANET.....
 
2013-11-26 07:39:42 AM
I think your neighbor has a legit beef if he's downwind of your bong all day.
 
2013-11-26 07:42:06 AM
This guy sounds cool: "Regardless of whether the law passes, Denver Police Chief Robert White said enforcement would be the police department's lowest priority."

But seriously, this doesn't make any sense.  Does anyone know why this is happening?  Is it a "save the children" type of thing, or is it about fine money like Marcus Aurelius suggested.
 
2013-11-26 07:42:09 AM

Prophet of Loss: Vaporize. Smoking anything is not good for you.


But it's like... an herb, man.  Nothing natural is bad for you.

But seriously, vaporize or eat.  You'll be healthier and your place won't smell like shiat.
 
WGJ
2013-11-26 07:43:18 AM
Knowing Denver they probably already have a law prohibiting smoking cigarettes on your front porch.
 
2013-11-26 07:44:08 AM

Prophet of Loss: Vaporize. Smoking anything is not good for you.


Or edibles. Love me some cookies.
 
GBB
2013-11-26 07:44:36 AM

HotWingConspiracy: I think your neighbor has a legit beef if he's downwind of your bong all day.


I'm downwind of my neighbor's slow suicide by lung cancer and I apparently do not have a legit complaint.
Why would reefer be any different?
 
2013-11-26 07:44:41 AM

WTF Indeed: Hey man, if like everyone sat outside and toked up we could like hotbox the entire planet, man. The ENTIRE PLANET.....


Even the worlds largest dab used a tent, bro.

/not tryin to harsh your mellow, just sayin' you want to concentrate that shiat.
 
2013-11-26 07:45:05 AM
I would really enjoy one of these idiots taking a look through the US Constitution and giving a rational argument in favor of the legality of drug bans. That goes for the DEA (an entire department that shouldn't exist and has no Constitutional grounding) too.

There are two columns. Column 1 is "laws a government can pass as authorized by the Constitution" and column 2 is "everything else". Column 2 is much larger. It's a shame so many have forgotten that. And a bigger shame we keep voting the people who have forgetting into office.
 
2013-11-26 07:45:24 AM
The smell of weed in public makes me uneasy.  This happened to me recently when I visited Amsterdam.    I'm a supporter of making it legal as well.
I think growing up with it being highly illegal has had consequences and I always feel uneasy when I smell it in public, not so much in private.    I don't yet understand why.

//Also despise hearing bong hits when playing multiplayer GTA online.
 
2013-11-26 07:47:21 AM

fluffy2097: Even the worlds largest dab used a tent, bro.

/not tryin to harsh your mellow, just sayin' you want to concentrate that shiat.


Like, whoa man! What's with all the harshness?
 
2013-11-26 07:47:30 AM

logggur: But seriously, this doesn't make any sense. Does anyone know why this is happening? Is it a "save the children" type of thing, or is it about fine money like Marcus Aurelius suggested.


Because when you live in poverty and cannot afford air conditioning, you spend all day outside on the porch with your kids playing in the street.

They probably think it will contribute to gang activity as well, as gang bangers often hang out on front stoops and porches.

/There are some very easy racial things to say about such activities, but I'm not going there.
 
2013-11-26 07:48:00 AM
What goes around comes around, the people who voted to make it legal can also vote out the idiots making these stupid laws.
 
2013-11-26 07:48:05 AM

WTF Indeed: Like, whoa man! What's with all the harshness?


It's a dab. They wreck your throat man.
 
2013-11-26 07:48:21 AM
This is the type of article on Fark that makes me laugh the hardest.
 
2013-11-26 07:49:31 AM

rev. dave: The smell of weed in public makes me uneasy.  This happened to me recently when I visited Amsterdam.    I'm a supporter of making it legal as well.
I think growing up with it being highly illegal has had consequences and I always feel uneasy when I smell it in public, not so much in private.    I don't yet understand why.

//Also despise hearing bong hits when playing multiplayer GTA online.


Well at least you know your conditioned response is completely illogical.  That's the first step.
 
2013-11-26 07:49:59 AM
Seems reasonable; parents should not have to provide answers to their 6 yr. old about you lighting your 5 ft. bong with a match between your toes, while walking their kids to the ice cream store.

You got your wish with decriminalization, now show a little discretion and head to the back porch, for the children.
 
2013-11-26 07:50:40 AM

GBB: HotWingConspiracy: I think your neighbor has a legit beef if he's downwind of your bong all day.

I'm downwind of my neighbor's slow suicide by lung cancer and I apparently do not have a legit complaint.
Why would reefer be any different?


Well I say your complaint is legit, but that doesn't really impact the legal question.

Though exposure to pot smoke could lead to some bad outcomes that wouldn't necessarily occur due to exposure to tobacco.
 
2013-11-26 07:50:40 AM

Prophet of Loss: Vaporize. Smoking anything is not good for you.


This. Investing in a G Pen was the best choice for my lungs.
 
2013-11-26 07:50:55 AM

taurusowner: I would really enjoy one of these idiots taking a look through the US Constitution and giving a rational argument in favor of the legality of drug bans. That goes for the DEA (an entire department that shouldn't exist and has no Constitutional grounding) too.

There are two columns. Column 1 is "laws a government can pass as authorized by the Constitution" and column 2 is "everything else". Column 2 is much larger. It's a shame so many have forgotten that. And a bigger shame we keep voting the people who have forgetting into office.


Didn't they get around that by making it a commerce issue? You have to buy a "tax stamp"(quotes because IANAL) and the Feds will never issue one, therefore any marijuana sold is a federal crime? I have no idea if this is correct or how it might apply to growing your own)something like what make most moonshine illegal?).
 
2013-11-26 07:52:02 AM

Marcus Aurelius: "I really believe (that if) the front of your property is open, it is public," said Councilwoman Jeanne Robb, who offered the amendment. "It does set the standard. I am trying to balance the rights of those who consume marijuana and those who want to protect some enjoyment of their own property."

If you can't search it without a warrant, it ain't "public", you worthless overreaching douchenozzle.

Why don't they just come right out and say they've got to make up for all the pot fines they're not pulling down any more?


You can search an area visible to the street without a warrant.  It's called "looking from the sidewalk".

The same rule applies to indecent exposure, why not pot?

/Difficulty: you cannot mention that looking at people smoking pot has nothing to do with anything.
 
2013-11-26 07:53:05 AM

WTF Indeed: fluffy2097: Do you REALLY need to smoke your weed on the front porch?

/invest in some blinds and smoke in your living room.
//weed smoke doesn't ruin your house like tobacco smoke does.

Hey man, if like everyone sat outside and toked up we could like hotbox the entire planet, man. The ENTIRE PLANET.....


Did you see what happened to Miranda? They gave up the will to live!
 
2013-11-26 07:53:44 AM
These are just good honest Christian people trying to protect their children from the pothead drug abusers. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.
 
2013-11-26 08:01:27 AM
Um, my front yard isn't public.
If you want to say it is, get the farking county over here to cut the grass, shovel the snow, trim my trees etc..
 
2013-11-26 08:04:00 AM

abhorrent1: Um, my front yard isn't public.


It is your property. If it faces the street, It's public.

/Otherwise google maps couldn't operate.
 
2013-11-26 08:05:30 AM
What's the 'brown paper bag covering a 40OZ' equivalent for cannabis smoking?  A sign in the yard that says 'I assure you this is not weed'?
 
2013-11-26 08:06:33 AM
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Remember: only if it's visible from the street.
 
2013-11-26 08:07:12 AM
If they can make it against the law to smoke tobacco in your own home, illegal to smoke tobacco in your own backyard or otherwise restrict an otherwise legal activity because it might extend over your property line by smell alone then this is just an extension of those applications of the law.

First they came for the Jews and I did nothing as I was not a Jew... and, you know the rest. The slippery slope is not always a fallacy.
 
2013-11-26 08:07:47 AM
I really don't have a problem with this law. I'm moving to Denver next June, so I'll be right in the mix. It takes me a whole 5 minutes to take a few puffs and then I'm done. If I decide to use my vaporizor on my front porch, I'll be ok. The cop dude said he wouldn't do anything if someone was not chiefing out when they arrive for said complaint, man.
 
2013-11-26 08:09:13 AM

lewismarktwo: What's the 'brown paper bag covering a 40OZ' equivalent for cannabis smoking?  A sign in the yard that says 'I assure you this is not weed'?


A cigarrette rolling machine.  Also, some tobbacco accessories would help.  Ashtray, cigarette pack, etc.  Of course, that stops working when they outlaw cigarettes.  Which I think they will.  Oddly, about the time they legalize marijuana.
 
2013-11-26 08:09:53 AM
Even if weed was legal where I live, I wouldn't sit on the front porch smoking it. That's what the back yard is for. Sitting around the pool, drinking beer and getting baked. Or in the garage if it's raining.

/God the last batch reeked so much. One tiny bud stunk up the whole house to the point the wife was complaining. Had to put it in a jar in the garage
 
2013-11-26 08:10:42 AM

fluffy2097: abhorrent1: Um, my front yard isn't public.

It is your property. If it faces the street, It's public.

/Otherwise google maps couldn't operate.


In public view  ≠ Public property
 
2013-11-26 08:16:01 AM

fluffy2097: //weed smoke doesn't ruin your house like tobacco smoke does.


LOLOLOLOLOLOL

yes it does
 
2013-11-26 08:20:45 AM

lewismarktwo: rev. dave: The smell of weed in public makes me uneasy.  This happened to me recently when I visited Amsterdam.    I'm a supporter of making it legal as well.
I think growing up with it being highly illegal has had consequences and I always feel uneasy when I smell it in public, not so much in private.    I don't yet understand why.

//Also despise hearing bong hits when playing multiplayer GTA online.

Well at least you know your conditioned response is completely illogical.  That's the first step.


Yes I'm sure if I grew up in a place it was legal that this would not happen.  And I think the law they passed in Denver is stupid.
 
2013-11-26 08:21:58 AM

mdeesnuts: So I can sit in my front yard in a speedo, pounding beers, and smoking cigars, but can't enjoy my sweet sweet vaporizer?

/Denver I'm warning you. You don't want me to break out my speedo.


Funny that you don't suggest sitting in your front yard buck naked.  Why's that, I wonder?  :D  It's your private property, after all.
 
2013-11-26 08:22:59 AM

abhorrent1: Um, my front yard isn't public.
If you want to say it is, get the farking county over here to cut the grass, shovel the snow, trim my trees etc..


If you let your grass grow too high they will do just that. Then bill you at what they pay the people who had to do it (and the gasoline that the used not only to do the work but also used to drive to your home and back to the shop, and their supervisors, and the lady who typed up the notice, and the time spent by the code enforcement officer, and so on and so on). Your local gardener costs a lot less, trust me on this. The same goes for not shoveling the sidewalk in front of your house (odds are that the sidewalk actually is on your property but the city has an easement for it to be there) although that usually also comes with a fine. As to the trees, well, if it gets too bad they will do the same as the grass.

Anything visible from the street is considered as a pseudo-public area and may be regulated by your local municipality. It's not unlike a HOA in some regards. It varies from place to place but generally speaking the local authorities can make you perform basic maintenance that, if not done, will detract from the overall appearance (and thus the value) of the neighborhood and can, if you refuse to do it, do it themselves and bill you at exorbitant rates as they pad the bill like crazy.
 
2013-11-26 08:23:54 AM
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2013-11-26 08:27:00 AM

darwinpolice: But it's like... an herb, man.  Nothing natural is bad for you.


Socrates was killed with an herbal tea.
 
2013-11-26 08:30:04 AM
Meh, lots of cities consider drinking a visible beer/alcoholic beverage on your front lawn as drinking in public, this law is no different.
 
2013-11-26 08:31:06 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 522x447]


I saw the top portion of your post and was so dissappointed when I scrolled down and DIDN'T see a fat guy with a beard and a tie-dye shirt for the "after" of pot.
 
2013-11-26 08:34:01 AM

WGJ: Knowing Denver they probably already have a law prohibiting smoking cigarettes on your front porch.


You're thinking of Boulder.
 
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