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(Yahoo)   61-year-old Marine Corps veteran who broke the fall of a suicidal woman at Sunday's Raiders' game answers his own question: "They want to label me a hero, but how do you define a hero? I would've done it for anybody"   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 54
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2013-11-25 11:52:16 PM
"He simply saved her life," Alameda County sheriff's Sgt. J.D. Nelson said. "Otherwise, she'd be dead."
The woman remained hospitalized in critical condition. Her name has not been released.


This is a heartwarming story, but she's in critical condition and she hit her head. I don't think he saved very much-- she's probably potato.

Sorry.

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2013-11-26 12:30:14 AM
I know what he means
 
2013-11-26 03:06:14 AM
"I won't say hero, because what's a hero?"

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2013-11-26 06:26:10 AM
This seems like one of those "cry for help" suicide attempts
 
2013-11-26 06:27:39 AM
I'll just leave this here.

http://dilbert.com/blog/entry/i_hope_my_father_dies_soon/

Sometimes saving someone isn't the most heroic thing you can do.
 
2013-11-26 06:32:10 AM

HaywoodJablonski: This seems like one of those "cry for help" suicide attempts




I think it's a "my teams sucks" suicide attempt.
 
2013-11-26 06:37:01 AM
I would've done it for anybody

Except a Broncos fan.
 
2013-11-26 06:40:01 AM
FTA: Donnie Navidad said his military instincts immediately kicked in as he lunged forward trying to catch her.

I can accept 'military training' but 'military instincts' seems a little weird, unless he has been genetically engineered for that task.
 
2013-11-26 06:40:33 AM
Even a really fat guy?

/If I was at a Raiders game, I'd jump to my death too.
 
2013-11-26 06:41:05 AM
Way to go butterfingers.
 
2013-11-26 06:45:11 AM

Public Savant: FTA: Donnie Navidad said his military instincts immediately kicked in as he lunged forward trying to catch her.

I can accept 'military training' but 'military instincts' seems a little weird, unless he has been genetically engineered for that task.


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Best comment ever.
 
2013-11-26 06:51:00 AM
Helped someone he wasn't obligated to help at real risk of injury/death to himself.

All right, hero tag accepted.  Everything seems to be in order here, I'll just move the cart along then.
 
2013-11-26 06:54:03 AM
He tried and missed? Does he play WR for the raiders?
 
2013-11-26 07:03:15 AM
"How do you define a hero?  I would've done it for anybody"

That is a good start to defining a hero.
 
2013-11-26 07:07:51 AM
Some may call me a hero for posting on Fark. If that's what people say, then I guess that is what I am.
 
2013-11-26 07:09:11 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I'll just leave this here.

http://dilbert.com/blog/entry/i_hope_my_father_dies_soon/

Sometimes saving someone isn't the most heroic thing you can do.


Damn, that was a depressing way to start the day.  Go back to being funny, funnies-man!
 
2013-11-26 07:09:24 AM
For once I'd love to read a story where some dude does something nice, then when he's praised and approached by reporters, says, "Your Goddamn right I'm a hero!  I straight saved that man's life, he OWES me.  He's only alive because of ME!  I figure I'm entitled to crash at his place whenever I want.  And if any of you want to 'spread the love', I'm still paying off my school loan bills, I'll accept paypal donations for my education fund.  However, cash will always be accepted. Now if you'll excuse me, I'd like to try to parley this into a blowjob from one of those hotties over there.  Can you do me a solid and interview me by them?  Thanks!"
 
2013-11-26 07:13:44 AM

El Morro: For once I'd love to read a story where some dude does something nice, then when he's praised and approached by reporters, says, "Your Goddamn right I'm a hero!  I straight saved that man's life, he OWES me.  He's only alive because of ME!  I figure I'm entitled to crash at his place whenever I want.  And if any of you want to 'spread the love', I'm still paying off my school loan bills, I'll accept paypal donations for my education fund.  However, cash will always be accepted. Now if you'll excuse me, I'd like to try to parley this into a blowjob from one of those hotties over there.  Can you do me a solid and interview me by them?  Thanks!"


Smart AND Funny!  Would read again!
 
2013-11-26 07:17:39 AM
Next follow up: her family sues him for the medical expenses.
 
2013-11-26 07:27:08 AM

Public Savant: FTA: Donnie Navidad said his military instincts immediately kicked in as he lunged forward trying to catch her.

I can accept 'military training' but 'military instincts' seems a little weird, unless he has been genetically engineered for that task.


Maybe it was this guy?

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2013-11-26 07:38:30 AM
A hero is a Marine who does what a lot of Marines do except there was an officer to witness it and write it up after he changed his BDUs.

Or so I was taught.
 
2013-11-26 07:38:33 AM

El Morro: For once I'd love to read a story where some dude does something nice, then when he's praised and approached by reporters, says, "Your Goddamn right I'm a hero!  I straight saved that man's life, he OWES me.  He's only alive because of ME!  I figure I'm entitled to crash at his place whenever I want.  And if any of you want to 'spread the love', I'm still paying off my school loan bills, I'll accept paypal donations for my education fund.  However, cash will always be accepted. Now if you'll excuse me, I'd like to try to parley this into a blowjob from one of those hotties over there.  Can you do me a solid and interview me by them?  Thanks!"


If Kenny Powers ever saved a life, he would say something similar to this.
 
2013-11-26 07:41:38 AM

thamike: I would've done it for anybody

Except a Broncos fan.


And some people would not have done it for anyone. Thats why they arent heroes.
 
2013-11-26 07:45:26 AM
As a season ticket owner the Raiders have stepped and decided to reward him by revoking his season tickets and allowing him the peace of never watching the Raiders play again.
 
2013-11-26 07:47:40 AM
I would say the Raiders ought to give him a pair of season tickets, if for no other reason then to prove that no good deed goes in punished.
 
2013-11-26 08:04:00 AM
I know how she feels.

/Steelers fan
 
2013-11-26 08:22:43 AM
Hero to the core.
 
2013-11-26 08:27:56 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I'll just leave this here.

http://dilbert.com/blog/entry/i_hope_my_father_dies_soon/

Sometimes saving someone isn't the most heroic thing you can do.


man, i'm glad i read scott's sincere words, and i must say i do agree with him. but i'm sorry i read that at work! very glad i have the next few days off...but i have a 4 hour + drive ahead of me this afternoon. i hope i can hold back the emotions to make the drive safely.

seriously, i love dilbert...but that was the best (yet saddest) thing i've seen scott write.
 
2013-11-26 08:30:00 AM
Football fans take that silly sport way too seriously.
 
2013-11-26 08:30:02 AM
He got upper decked.
 
2013-11-26 08:31:08 AM
Good thing she wasn't a Texans fan or he would have been crushed.
 
2013-11-26 08:33:33 AM

MyNameIsMofuga: Good thing she wasn't a Texans fan or he would have been crushed.


a cowboy's fan would've turned her over to the opposition
 
2013-11-26 08:40:19 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: HaywoodJablonski: This seems like one of those "cry for help" suicide attempts

I think it's a "my teams sucks" suicide attempt.


There were 15 of those last night in DC.
 
2013-11-26 08:42:32 AM
He pulled a Homer. And I don't use that term often, but that makes him the greatest hero in American history.
 
2013-11-26 08:53:48 AM
He'd do it for anyone?

*Anyone?*

Even Hitler?

And you call the god damn racist bastard a HERO?!?

/i hate my life
 
2013-11-26 09:12:24 AM

chozo13: "How do you define a hero?  I would've done it for anybody"

That is a good start to defining a hero.


That works for me.
 
2013-11-26 09:22:26 AM

2wolves: A hero is a Marine who does what a lot of Marines do except there was an officer to witness it and write it up after he changed his BDUs.

Or so I was taught.


This
 
2013-11-26 09:30:01 AM
What is most shocking to me about this article is that there is actually an Al Davis commemorative flame.
 
2013-11-26 09:41:35 AM
She'd have been fine if he hadn't spiked her after the catch.
 
2013-11-26 09:52:16 AM
so he extended the shiathole life of someone who wanted to die?

You sir are no hero, unless you plan on taking care of this woman for the rest of her life.
 
2013-11-26 10:09:06 AM
Wait until he gets sued for interfering with her right to self expression.
 
2013-11-26 10:09:35 AM

Mambo Bananapatch: He'd do it for anyone?
*Anyone?*
Even Hitler?


I will just write this out, I had to go find my book:

"There is a magnificent essay by Schopenhauer in which he asks, how is it that a human being can so participate in the peril or pain of another that without thought, spontaneously, he sacrifices his own life to the other? How can it happen that what we normally think of as the first law of nature and self-preservation is suddenly dissolved?

Schjopenhauer's answer is that such a psychological crisis represents the breakthrough of a metaphysical realization, which is that you and that other are one, that you are two aspects of the one life, and that your apparent separateness is but an effect of the way we experience forms under the conditions of time and space. Our true reality is in our identity and unity with all life."

--Joseph Campbell
 
2013-11-26 10:10:18 AM
doesn't matter what he was/is, the fact you're willing to risk yourself to help another makes you a hero

/guy's way too humble, but I get where he's coming from
//give the guy a beer
 
2013-11-26 10:31:13 AM

mrEdude: so he extended the shiathole life of someone who wanted to die?

You sir are no hero, unless you plan on taking care of this woman for the rest of her life.


I am pretty sure I am getting trolled, but do you really think like that? The man made a quick decision to try and save someone's life. Someone who, if they are attempting suicide, might not be thinking clearly. When someone makes a snap judgement to put someone else's life ahead of their own well-being they are the very definition of hero. He wasn't thinking of what type of person they were, what made them do what they were trying to do, or what comes after. He saw someone that needed saving and attempted to do just that while everyone else looked on.

/don't be an ass
 
2013-11-26 10:39:39 AM

cryinoutloud: Mambo Bananapatch: He'd do it for anyone?
*Anyone?*
Even Hitler?

I will just write this out, I had to go find my book:

"There is a magnificent essay by Schopenhauer in which he asks, how is it that a human being can so participate in the peril or pain of another that without thought, spontaneously, he sacrifices his own life to the other? How can it happen that what we normally think of as the first law of nature and self-preservation is suddenly dissolved?

Schjopenhauer's answer is that such a psychological crisis represents the breakthrough of a metaphysical realization, which is that you and that other are one, that you are two aspects of the one life, and that your apparent separateness is but an effect of the way we experience forms under the conditions of time and space. Our true reality is in our identity and unity with all life."

--Joseph Campbell


The problem with that quote is that it is so unusual that it is, in fact, not recognized as our true reality. It then becomes newsworthy.
 
2013-11-26 10:43:02 AM
So be became a hero by preventing her from becoming an hero? Neat.

I think I'll have a gyro.
 
2013-11-26 10:46:09 AM
Al Davis commemorative flame?   What is it, a Bic lighter?  Or do they have a never ending supply of the oil he put on his hair, and they're burning that.  Or is it a flaming pile of his old Depends.
 
2013-11-26 11:15:26 AM

pkellmey: The problem with that quote is that it is so unusual that it is, in fact, not recognized as our true reality. It then becomes newsworthy.


I guess not. Campbell talked about your ideal life, the one you'd have if you could stay on your correct spiritual path. There are not too many people on that path. Too bad most people think that money can replace all kinds of inner peace. You just let that woman fall.
 
2013-11-26 11:20:10 AM

Brick-House: I would say the Raiders ought to give him a pair of season tickets, if for no other reason then to prove that no good deed goes in punished.


If they were smart, they would make him a wide receiver, he can do what no Raider receiver can do...catch!
 
2013-11-26 11:25:40 AM

cryinoutloud: pkellmey: The problem with that quote is that it is so unusual that it is, in fact, not recognized as our true reality. It then becomes newsworthy.

I guess not. Campbell talked about your ideal life, the one you'd have if you could stay on your correct spiritual path. There are not too many people on that path. Too bad most people think that money can replace all kinds of inner peace. You just let that woman fall.


Campbell also supported letting people pick their own destiny. The lady wanted to land on the ground and the old guy interfered with that decision. Campbell really didn't get into how far to let crazy people have their free will, so I am not sure how much any of this applies.
 
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