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(CNN)   Final report on Sandy Hook shooting issued. Unsurprisingly, the shooter was obsessed with mass shootings and video games; one video game in particular that he would spend 10 hours or more a day on. Guess which one   (cnn.com) divider line 317
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2013-11-26 04:56:06 AM  
Way to deflect from the real issue subby. Nice Jorb.

Guns dont kill people.
Easy access to them does.
 
2013-11-26 06:09:11 AM  
I'm comforted by the fact I had no idea it would have been DDR....
 
2013-11-26 06:17:26 AM  
Went crazy because he couldn't get an A on Max 300
 
2013-11-26 06:22:28 AM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Picture shows Mario Party for the N64. I own and play those regularly. Someone call the FBI and tell them I'm a high risk suspect.


Hmm...why would a loner have Mario Party?!!1!!

It's a conspiracy!!
 
2013-11-26 06:34:02 AM  

gerbilpox: AR-15 is a registered trademark of Colt, which it got when it bought the design from ArmaLite. There is no other "AR-15". Think of it like Coke. Pepsi and other types of cola could be called "variants," but if they called themselves Coke they would be sued.



Do you search for something or Google for it?  Do you use a tissue or Kleenex?  Do you use a vacuum cleaner or a Hoover?  Sticky tape or Sellotape?

Its one of those things where people "in the know" are technically correct (which is the best sort of correct).  However, the lay person doesn't give a crap. If it looks like a duck and goes bang like a duck, then they'll probably think it's a duck armed with an AR-15.
 
2013-11-26 06:47:41 AM  

shortymac: freewill: Peki: freewill: Watubi: "The shooter was particular about the food that he ate and its arrangement on a plate in relation to other foods on the plate"

Oh crap, that sounds just like my 3 year old

Also, every adult with Asperger's ever.

So. . . it's not normal to make sure that the juice from the steak doesn't invade your mashed potatoes, or that you like the little plates with all the different divisions on them?

The first strong warning sign I got that a friend's adult son probably had undiagnosed Asperger's came at a Thai restaurant. He'd been acting belligerent when we told him where we were going. He usually insisted on pizza or hamburgers in almost all cases, which I had taken to be some intense immaturity, but I'd never really thought there was anything "wrong".

When we got there, he was sitting there angry, and finally said he was not going to order anything because he "can't eat any of this stuff". I asked him what he meant, they were all common ingredients, and he went through a laundry list of things he "doesn't eat": eggs, broccoli, peanuts, green peppers, rice, etc. It was like Bubba on Forrest Gump talking about shrimp, except it was every food. I managed to talk him into trying a chicken satay appetizer because it was just chicken breast on a stick, and he grumbled for several minutes about it coming with sauce before he decided he could eat that.

It was only later that day that I realized he had almost every symptom of Asperger's, and that this was probably why he acted so suspicious when I suggested a wedge salad at another restaurant in the past. (Almost in a panic, "WHAT IS IT?" "It's a wedge of iceberg lettuce with bacon and blue cheese dressing." "IS THAT ALL?" as if I might be forgetting to mention the cyanide.)

As I understand it, people with Asperger's are often very dependent on routine and have an extremely linear way of thinking that makes it difficult for them to accept new, different ideas once they get an idea in place. ...


Just raising a normal kid is a metric farkton of work; good for them, and good for you for stepping up to the plate.

As a lazy, lazy man, I salute you, good sir.
 
2013-11-26 07:11:08 AM  
He was a crazy tard who should have been medicated or locked up. Sad that he killed kids before ending his invalid life. But, goddamnit, why the hell didn't he get any help?
 
2013-11-26 07:46:40 AM  

Gyrfalcon: I guess that throws the "video games made him do it" theory into a cocked hat.


Pretty sure that hat was already cocked.

...wait.
 
2013-11-26 07:49:00 AM  

Watubi: "The shooter was particular about the food that he ate and its arrangement on a plate in relation to other foods on the plate"

Oh crap, that sounds just like my 3 year old


Maybe you should get a few metal milatary surplus trays
 
2013-11-26 08:14:27 AM  

Peki: With the food thing: it's not about order or what kind of food. It has to do more with textures, tastes, and temperatures. For example, soggy bread on a sandwich? Forget it. Couldn't stomach it if I tried. Same with off temperature foods; if it's supposed to be that way, I need to know or I have issues. I grabbed cold corn once when I thought it was warm and spit all of it right back out; I'm sorry but temperature changes texture! Cold corn might as well be a pepper compared to warm corn. I also have some tastes that I'm supersensitive to, like bananas or fake grape flavor (grapes are okay, grape juice is teh debil). I've gotten better about the mixing thing though, but I tend to draw lines at thin liquids while thick sauces are awesome. I think it has more to do with my family history of synesthesia than autism, though I do have several behaviors that fit the bill.


This is interesting to me. It sounds like a different group of symptoms (the texture/temperature/taste thing) than the ones we noticed. (As another example, we were once having spaghetti and meatballs, and he took the top of the parmesan cheese jar and started pouring about a cup of cheese into it, then opened a pat of butter. His mother briefly pointed out to him that there is no butter in that dish, and he got loud for a second and said "YES, THERE IS. That's what keeps the noodles from sticking together." I pointed out that she was right, and he just mumbled "uh-huh" as he put butter in it. Turns out, his family makes spaghetti without tomato sauce, just butter and cheese, and that's "spaghetti" to him, it was impossible that spaghetti is served other ways.)

We've never really had a conversation with him about synesthesia/sensory issues, mainly because neither of us are sure how to raise the topic or if he even realizes that these behaviors might seem unusual to others.

However, I'm not sure being on the spectrum was really Lanza's driving issue, and could possibly confuse people by associating the spectrum in such a negative way. I find it far more likely he spent years planning things out in response to a very severe bout of bullying, though the autism would most certainly have been a factor in causing Lanza to be an easy target.

Oh, I agree completely. My (also speculative) thought is that it might have indirectly led to some anger, avoidant behaviors, social anxiety, etc., that got him to that mental state and made him feel like life was impossible. He was apparently basically barricaded into his room for extended periods.

The thing is that he obviously also had some other (antisocial? psychopathic? psychotic?) tendencies unrelated to Asperger's that predisposed him to violent fantasies and ideas in the first place. "I have bad experiences when I try to socialize so I don't like people and don't want to talk to anyone, I just want to stay in my room forever and play video games", is one thought, easily explained by some symptoms of Asperger's. "I want to respond to this feeling by killing my mother and a large group of children" is another thought entirely, one which is not and should not be.

I'm still unclear on why on Earth the mother thought it was a good idea to give a gun to someone who needed so much supervision that she couldn't work. Regardless of what specific conditions he may have had, "can't be left alone in the house" should equal "can't have a gun".
 
2013-11-26 08:18:39 AM  

brantgoose: Minecraft? It's a killer. I just learned that from South Park, my sole source of information on what the kids are into when they are not on my lawn.


So you have kids walking in your betrayal garden too?
 
2013-11-26 08:36:13 AM  
So basically, there were no good predictors. Even his mental illnesses were not of the dangerous sort.

Color me totally unsurprised. But the traumatized-by-proxy are really going to hate this: it puts a serious crimp in their Never Again plans.
 
2013-11-26 08:45:06 AM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Picture shows Mario Party for the N64. I own and play those regularly. Someone call the FBI and tell them I'm a high risk suspect.


We already know.
 
2013-11-26 08:46:14 AM  

Mitrovarr: Well, at least we have a satisfactory answer to 'how could this happen' now: A somewhat crazy prepper and gun-nut mom used the shooting range to bond with her sociopathic and otherwise lunatic offspring, thus combining his total lack of emotion and empathy and his fascination with spree killers with a solid background in firearm training. It's kind of like the perfect storm of irresponsibility and psychosis.

Now, a quick public service announcement for idiots:
If you know someone (perhaps your child) who lacks empathy and is otherwise unhinged, do not:
A. Give them access to your firearms.
B. Train them in advanced shooting techniques.
C. Spend your whole life telling them that the world's going to end.


This is the one (besides the whole, holy crap why would you give someone that crazy access to a bunch of guns thing) that I think should be getting more attention. This kid had severe problems dealing with the world, was autistic, possibly had some kind of sensory overload issues to the point that he holes up in his room and blocks the windows. The world itself is already pretty scary to him, and then you raise him to believe that the zombie apocalypse could be happening any day and he could get death paneled, that's got to up his stress levels a whole lot. How is he going to deal with end times when he can't deal with the way things are now? I'm sure his mom loved him and really believed what she believed, but that's got to be a bigger influence on his psychology and snappage than video games.
 
2013-11-26 08:52:27 AM  

Richard C Stanford: He was a crazy tard who should have been medicated or locked up. Sad that he killed kids before ending his invalid life. But, goddamnit, why the hell didn't he get any help?


Because we're too busy trying to legislate video games for kids and firearms for law abiding citizens to stop this behavior and that's exactly what will come of this report.
 
2013-11-26 09:14:24 AM  
See??? He had Aspergers. He had a disability and should be pitied, not despised.
 
2013-11-26 09:26:47 AM  

Sid_6.7: tetsoushima: I live one town over from Newtown and I've "danced" on the DDR machine at the movie theater Adam Lanza used to frequent.  There are other things that we had in common just by nature of living in such close proximity, but that is by far the weirdest.

So you plan to commit an act of mass violence?!

/joking
//obviously?


It's just strange that they would mention it.  The theater that they are talking about is a Loew's cineplex and it has 16 screens.  It is really the only place in the area to watch first-run movies.  It is highly probable that some of the kids who died had gone to this theater a few times and there is even an outside chance that maybe one or two of them played DDR on that same machine.  Is there a connection?  No.

The thought is just really strange.
 
2013-11-26 09:58:19 AM  
So can we have a serious discussion about mental illness in this country yet?
 
2013-11-26 09:58:22 AM  
I totally blame the mother. If she cared more about the son and less about what people would think, she would have had him living in a group home, medicated, in long-term therapy, and under structured supervision. But no, she ignored him for days on end, allowed him to become totally isolated in a bizarre fantasy world, catered to all of his whims and allowed him constant access to firearms.

Talk about total denial and a complete lack of responsibiity towards an obviously troubled child. Essentially, she abdicated her role as a parent.
 
2013-11-26 10:00:47 AM  

doubled99: See??? He had Aspergers. He had a disability and should be pitied, not despised.


I have Aspergers,  he should have received good mental help before it even got to this point.  but no, nobody in this country wants to even talk about the issue of mental illness.
 
2013-11-26 10:37:44 AM  

Warlordtrooper: doubled99: See??? He had Aspergers. He had a disability and should be pitied, not despised.

I have Aspergers,  he should have received good mental help before it even got to this point.  but no, nobody in this country wants to even talk about the issue of mental illness.


In your mind, what would constitute a "good conversation" about mental health issues?
 
2013-11-26 10:49:38 AM  
people who "lack empathy" should be eliminated from normal society, whatever the reason for it.
 
2013-11-26 11:05:10 AM  

doubled99: people who "lack empathy" should be eliminated from normal society, whatever the reason for it.


That's not very empathetic.

/off to the firing squad with you
 
2013-11-26 11:06:47 AM  
powet.tv

"Fark this, Imma go shoot up a school"
 
2013-11-26 11:25:31 AM  

freewill: We've never really had a conversation with him about synesthesia/sensory issues, mainly because neither of us are sure how to raise the topic or if he even realizes that these behaviors might seem unusual to others.

My mother has the number/color thing, so though the test with all the 5s and 8s is very useful. I don't have that, but I have very good pattern recognition, so I test like I have synesthesia, but the numbers aren't different colors for me. The best way I would suggest bringing it up is ask him to describe things. If he starts using the wrong adjectives (for example, the piano sounds purple, Wednesday is blue, etc), then you've got a pretty good basis for synesthesia. For me, I taste shapes (vinegar is a bouncing spike ball, crunchy peanut butter is rectangular, creamy peanut butter is oval). "Fake foods" that have a lot of filler end up tasting like the general shape and form of whatever food it's supposed to be, but I can tell it's just air and holes, like a whiffle ball. I spat out ice cream recently because the gum they added is just so. . . it's like trying to eat styrofoam.

You never realize a behavior is unusual until someone points it out to you.

freewill: I'm still unclear on why on Earth the mother thought it was a good idea to give a gun to someone who needed so much supervision that she couldn't work. Regardless of what specific conditions he may have had, "can't be left alone in the house" should equal "can't have a gun".


Yeah, I agree with you there. Definitely some parental dumbassery going on.
 
2013-11-26 11:29:50 AM  

People_are_Idiots: HighlanderRPI: Pictures from the Lanza Collection

[www.trbimg.com image 500x332]

[www.trbimg.com image 500x332]

N64 & Dreamcast - clearly there were signs

[th08.deviantart.net image 850x567] [th05.deviantart.net image 731x1094]

Pft... Amateur...


I bet that room smells really musky.
 
2013-11-26 11:30:00 AM  

ambercat: Mitrovarr: Well, at least we have a satisfactory answer to 'how could this happen' now: A somewhat crazy prepper and gun-nut mom used the shooting range to bond with her sociopathic and otherwise lunatic offspring, thus combining his total lack of emotion and empathy and his fascination with spree killers with a solid background in firearm training. It's kind of like the perfect storm of irresponsibility and psychosis.

Now, a quick public service announcement for idiots:
If you know someone (perhaps your child) who lacks empathy and is otherwise unhinged, do not:
A. Give them access to your firearms.
B. Train them in advanced shooting techniques.
C. Spend your whole life telling them that the world's going to end.

This is the one (besides the whole, holy crap why would you give someone that crazy access to a bunch of guns thing) that I think should be getting more attention. This kid had severe problems dealing with the world, was autistic, possibly had some kind of sensory overload issues to the point that he holes up in his room and blocks the windows. The world itself is already pretty scary to him, and then you raise him to believe that the zombie apocalypse could be happening any day and he could get death paneled, that's got to up his stress levels a whole lot. How is he going to deal with end times when he can't deal with the way things are now? I'm sure his mom loved him and really believed what she believed, but that's got to be a bigger influence on his psychology and snappage than video games.


I don't believe the whole "Mom is a nutty prepper who thought the world was going to end" theory was never proven beyond a few comments (supposedly) from her ex-sister-in-law. Google shows a flurry of articles soon after the tragedy but nothing from an official source supporting it (Books in her house, magazines, etc)

A lot of people blame the Mom and forget she was his first victim. She was also left alone to deal with a highly-dysfunctional child for over a decade by herself, Daddy and Big Bro checked out a long time ago. Even with her money she couldn't commit him or force him into therapy/medication. Many people with his condition end up on the streets because families can't deal with them.
 
2013-11-26 11:47:17 AM  

DominaNY: I totally blame the mother. If she cared more about the son and less about what people would think, she would have had him living in a group home, medicated, in long-term therapy, and under structured supervision. But no, she ignored him for days on end, allowed him to become totally isolated in a bizarre fantasy world, catered to all of his whims and allowed him constant access to firearms.

Talk about total denial and a complete lack of responsibiity towards an obviously troubled child. Essentially, she abdicated her role as a parent.


Yeah good luck with that, it's extremely difficult to force anyone into any treatment (medication or otherwise) against their will, even as a minor. It's a legal clusterfark of epic proportions and the laws are stacked against you.

Wonder why almost all the homeless are mentally ill? Yeah, many either leave themselves or get thrown out due to the absolute clusterfark of treatment laws.
 
2013-11-26 11:47:25 AM  

shortymac: A lot of people blame the Mom and forget she was his first victim.


Anytime there is a mass shooting, it's a societal failure. We're all to blame, because we weren't there to support her or him.

/I'm just okay with recognizing that, yeah, lady, buying him a gun was a bad idea
 
2013-11-26 11:52:10 AM  

Peki: freewill: Watubi: "The shooter was particular about the food that he ate and its arrangement on a plate in relation to other foods on the plate"

Oh crap, that sounds just like my 3 year old

Also, every adult with Asperger's ever.

So. . . it's not normal to make sure that the juice from the steak doesn't invade your mashed potatoes, or that you like the little plates with all the different divisions on them?

/"I'm a military man, I like a military meal"


I wouldn't go so far as divided plates, but I farkin' hate it when "liquidy" foods are just plopped on the plate with everything else to dissolve into a big, disgusting slurry...meat juices and such aren't an issue, but I don't need no got-damn green bean water soaking into my dinner roll...
 
2013-11-26 11:59:46 AM  

freewill: Peki: With the food thing: it's not about order or what kind of food. It has to do more with textures, tastes, and temperatures. For example, soggy bread on a sandwich? Forget it. Couldn't stomach it if I tried. Same with off temperature foods; if it's supposed to be that way, I need to know or I have issues. I grabbed cold corn once when I thought it was warm and spit all of it right back out; I'm sorry but temperature changes texture! Cold corn might as well be a pepper compared to warm corn. I also have some tastes that I'm supersensitive to, like bananas or fake grape flavor (grapes are okay, grape juice is teh debil). I've gotten better about the mixing thing though, but I tend to draw lines at thin liquids while thick sauces are awesome. I think it has more to do with my family history of synesthesia than autism, though I do have several behaviors that fit the bill.

This is interesting to me. It sounds like a different group of symptoms (the texture/temperature/taste thing) than the ones we noticed. (As another example, we were once having spaghetti and meatballs, and he took the top of the parmesan cheese jar and started pouring about a cup of cheese into it, then opened a pat of butter. His mother briefly pointed out to him that there is no butter in that dish, and he got loud for a second and said "YES, THERE IS. That's what keeps the noodles from sticking together." I pointed out that she was right, and he just mumbled "uh-huh" as he put butter in it. Turns out, his family makes spaghetti without tomato sauce, just butter and cheese, and that's "spaghetti" to him, it was impossible that spaghetti is served other ways.)

We've never really had a conversation with him about synesthesia/sensory issues, mainly because neither of us are sure how to raise the topic or if he even realizes that these behaviors might seem unusual to others.

However, I'm not sure being on the spectrum was really Lanza's driving issue, and could possibly confuse people by associati ...


Schizophrenia or Schizo-Affective disorders are sometimes co-morbid with autism (along with ADHD, Bipolar, and OCD).

It sounds like Adam might have only got a Autism diagnosis and due to his communication issues the Schizophrenia was not noticed until it was too late.

The whole "black bags over windows, tin foil over the vent" looks like paranoid schizophrenia to me.

/Worked at a mental health hospital for 4 years
 
2013-11-26 12:41:41 PM  
noyouare.lixlink.com
this game drove me over the edge i tell you!
 
2013-11-26 12:49:53 PM  

freewill: shortymac: Basically, my parents had to constantly switch things up and break him of any weird patterns as soon as they happened to get him used to change. It's much easier to deal with a temper tantrum toddler than an adult. He still has some issues, but no where as severe as some of his peers or as a kid.

One a side note, most of his peers in the special ed class had divorced parents due to the absolute stress of raising a kid like this. It's farking difficult and I practically raised my other 2 brothers because my parents had to be focused on him 24/7.

In the family of the guy I mentioned above, the parents divorced, but it was because of the absolute stress of the other kid, the daughter, who is now 30, being a farking sociopath. (Not being facetious. She is the anti-Christ.) She absolutely tortured and humiliated her brother growing up for the behaviors that now seem clearly explained by Asperger's. I wish I knew how to help the guy, because he's 25 and really seems to be having trouble finding his way. (He is unwilling to talk to a professional, and his father, who was somewhat abusive himself and pulled the son out of counseling as a teenager just to spite his ex-wife, doesn't seem to care.)

I say this to emphasize that you sound like a good brother and your parents sound like good people who tried hard for their kids. That's very cool, and your brother is lucky to have you guys. I never realized when I was growing up how good I had it, just not to have any major medical/psychological issues and to have a decent man who cared about me for a father.


My family is far from perfect. I've begged by Dad to take my brother to therapy for his socialization issues but he "doesn't believe in it" and my brother has become a "hobby" to him. I'm pretty sure my Dad has ADD which due to lack of treatment may have become Bipolar. He's on SSI disability due to various health issues and can be very deluded to how bad my brother is on top of being extremely controlling with all of us.

My brother is struggling to find a job and his socialization issues are preventing him from passing the interview or keeping anything other than a menial job. I've begged him to get into some sort of job program to help him but again my Dad refuses for made-up reasons (Oh! I talked to someone and he said it was a bad idea! *eye-roll*). So my brother is stuck working at McDonald's and IRS during tax season despite having a bachelor's degree.

My parents are de-facto divorced now, they are still technically married but are basically roommates now for economic reasons (mortgage payment is only 600 and SSI is too small to live off of w/o Mom's salary). I've encouraged my brother and another brother to leave and get an apartment somewhere but they haven't yet. At least my other brother is helping him get out of the house and socialize. My Mom pick her battles with Dad, especially when it comes to my brother, she put her foot down when my Dad refused to give my brother a smartphone and didn't want him to learn texting! Dad has access to my brother's e-mail account so frank conversation is difficult.

/Moved to Canada to get away from the dysfunction
//Dad treats me better now because he can't control me
///Thank you for your kind words
 
2013-11-26 12:55:16 PM  
Can i have his stuff?
 
2013-11-26 01:01:20 PM  

ongbok: People_are_Idiots: HighlanderRPI: Pictures from the Lanza Collection

[www.trbimg.com image 500x332]

[www.trbimg.com image 500x332]

N64 & Dreamcast - clearly there were signs

[th08.deviantart.net image 850x567] [th05.deviantart.net image 731x1094]

Pft... Amateur...

You go through a lot of lotion and tissues, don't you? Hell with all of that lotion you have to buy you can't afford a gun.


Nope, I collect video game systems. It's literally a museum.

Moonfisher: I bet that room smells really musky.


Actually, I had to fix it up. Still a work in progress, but at least the horrible smell of death is gone (my mom passed away in that room... :( )
 
2013-11-26 01:01:33 PM  
Why did he destroy his hard drive? That makes no sense
 
2013-11-26 01:24:20 PM  

justtray: Why did he destroy his hard drive? That makes no sense


2 reasons:

1) He had more detailed plans and personal information on there, porn, etc
2) Paranoid Schizophrenia makes you, well, paranoid

One of the Columbine shooters did the same thing, the one that was definitely a psychopath. The other one didn't and his writings seem to point to him being a depressed toady-submissive type.
 
2013-11-26 01:44:00 PM  

shortymac: ambercat: Mitrovarr: Well, at least we have a satisfactory answer to 'how could this happen' now: A somewhat crazy prepper and gun-nut mom used the shooting range to bond with her sociopathic and otherwise lunatic offspring, thus combining his total lack of emotion and empathy and his fascination with spree killers with a solid background in firearm training. It's kind of like the perfect storm of irresponsibility and psychosis.

Now, a quick public service announcement for idiots:
If you know someone (perhaps your child) who lacks empathy and is otherwise unhinged, do not:
A. Give them access to your firearms.
B. Train them in advanced shooting techniques.
C. Spend your whole life telling them that the world's going to end.

This is the one (besides the whole, holy crap why would you give someone that crazy access to a bunch of guns thing) that I think should be getting more attention. This kid had severe problems dealing with the world, was autistic, possibly had some kind of sensory overload issues to the point that he holes up in his room and blocks the windows. The world itself is already pretty scary to him, and then you raise him to believe that the zombie apocalypse could be happening any day and he could get death paneled, that's got to up his stress levels a whole lot. How is he going to deal with end times when he can't deal with the way things are now? I'm sure his mom loved him and really believed what she believed, but that's got to be a bigger influence on his psychology and snappage than video games.

I don't believe the whole "Mom is a nutty prepper who thought the world was going to end" theory was never proven beyond a few comments (supposedly) from her ex-sister-in-law. Google shows a flurry of articles soon after the tragedy but nothing from an official source supporting it (Books in her house, magazines, etc)

A lot of people blame the Mom and forget she was his first victim. She was also left alone to deal with a highly-dysfunctional child for ...


There's a lot of value to a family unit. We forget that a lot these days...
 
2013-11-26 01:45:17 PM  

tetsoushima: Warlordtrooper: doubled99: See??? He had Aspergers. He had a disability and should be pitied, not despised.

I have Aspergers,  he should have received good mental help before it even got to this point.  but no, nobody in this country wants to even talk about the issue of mental illness.

In your mind, what would constitute a "good conversation" about mental health issues?


Well for starters funding for treatments for people who need it in order to be productive members of society.
 
2013-11-26 01:46:36 PM  

gerbilpox: Pumpernickel bread: Just noticed he used a .223 Bushmaster.  Same gun the D.C. snipers used.

Which, of course, they identified as an AR-15.

[i.imgur.com image 671x519]


That's because it is an ar-15 tard.
 
2013-11-26 01:58:08 PM  

People_are_Idiots: ongbok: People_are_Idiots: HighlanderRPI: Pictures from the Lanza Collection

[www.trbimg.com image 500x332]

[www.trbimg.com image 500x332]

N64 & Dreamcast - clearly there were signs

[th08.deviantart.net image 850x567] [th05.deviantart.net image 731x1094]

Pft... Amateur...

You go through a lot of lotion and tissues, don't you? Hell with all of that lotion you have to buy you can't afford a gun.

Nope, I collect video game systems. It's literally a museum.

Moonfisher: I bet that room smells really musky.

Actually, I had to fix it up. Still a work in progress, but at least the horrible smell of death is gone (my mom passed away in that room... :( )


:(   I was suspecting man-musk, not dearly departed mother musk.  I'm so sorry to hear that.
 
2013-11-26 02:15:21 PM  

Marine1: shortymac: ambercat: Mitrovarr: Well, at least we have a satisfactory answer to 'how could this happen' now: A somewhat crazy prepper and gun-nut mom used the shooting range to bond with her sociopathic and otherwise lunatic offspring, thus combining his total lack of emotion and empathy and his fascination with spree killers with a solid background in firearm training. It's kind of like the perfect storm of irresponsibility and psychosis.

Now, a quick public service announcement for idiots:
If you know someone (perhaps your child) who lacks empathy and is otherwise unhinged, do not:
A. Give them access to your firearms.
B. Train them in advanced shooting techniques.
C. Spend your whole life telling them that the world's going to end.

This is the one (besides the whole, holy crap why would you give someone that crazy access to a bunch of guns thing) that I think should be getting more attention. This kid had severe problems dealing with the world, was autistic, possibly had some kind of sensory overload issues to the point that he holes up in his room and blocks the windows. The world itself is already pretty scary to him, and then you raise him to believe that the zombie apocalypse could be happening any day and he could get death paneled, that's got to up his stress levels a whole lot. How is he going to deal with end times when he can't deal with the way things are now? I'm sure his mom loved him and really believed what she believed, but that's got to be a bigger influence on his psychology and snappage than video games.

I don't believe the whole "Mom is a nutty prepper who thought the world was going to end" theory was never proven beyond a few comments (supposedly) from her ex-sister-in-law. Google shows a flurry of articles soon after the tragedy but nothing from an official source supporting it (Books in her house, magazines, etc)

A lot of people blame the Mom and forget she was his first victim. She was also left alone to deal with a highly-dysfunctiona ...


Thank you, it was still difficult with 5 people able to tag-team him.

Moreover, due to a car accident my Mom suffered at 6 months pregnant, my parents where on the lookout for issues from day 1. My Dad being a doctor also helped tremendously*. Early help is absolutely essential but many parents don't notice any wrong until very late.

From the Daily Mail article, Adam wasn't diagnosed with Autism until 2005 and the family didn't notice anything really wrong until 5th grade. It seems right around puberty is when the OCD (and probably schizophrenia) issues started as well. The whole "withdrawal from society" issue could either be Autism or Schizophrenia, with him it was probably both.

/*The fact that he is a doctor make his whole stubbornness with therapy and programs just sadder
 
2013-11-26 02:55:11 PM  
Just Dance is better than Dance Central


/Might be obscure
 
2013-11-26 03:26:24 PM  

pedrop357: Just Dance is better than Dance Central


/Might be obscure


Nothing is obscure on FARK
 
2013-11-26 03:32:48 PM  
"He attended parties, enjoyed music and played the saxophone."

I don't understand why we are letting saxophones off the hook so easily. This had to have contributed to at least one of the deaths.
 
2013-11-26 03:41:34 PM  

The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: "He attended parties, enjoyed music and played the saxophone."

I don't understand why we are letting saxophones off the hook so easily. This had to have contributed to at least one of the deaths.


Especially if it was a soprano sax...

www.charlestoncitypaper.com
 
2013-11-26 04:19:03 PM  

shortymac: A lot of people blame the Mom and forget she was his first victim. She was also left alone to deal with a highly-dysfunctional child for over a decade by herself, Daddy and Big Bro checked out a long time ago. Even with her money she couldn't commit him or force him into therapy/medication. Many people with his condition end up on the streets because families can't deal with them.


I would normally have sympathy, but she spent years giving a person with severe mental illnesses advanced firearm training (even if the prepper bit is in question, I don't think the gun-range bit is). Also, she failed to secure her guns from him. That is criminally irresponsible and enabled this to happen.
 
2013-11-26 04:32:26 PM  

manimal2878: gerbilpox: Pumpernickel bread: Just noticed he used a .223 Bushmaster.  Same gun the D.C. snipers used.

Which, of course, they identified as an AR-15.

[i.imgur.com image 671x519]

That's because it is an ar-15 tard.


An AR-15TARD? I've never heard of that model. Is that like the TAR-21?
 
2013-11-26 04:36:20 PM  

iq_in_binary: I may be the one willing to whack people's peepees


all right, form an orderly queue, people
 
2013-11-26 05:06:29 PM  

shortymac: pedrop357: Just Dance is better than Dance Central


/Might be obscure

Nothing is obscure on FARK


Prove it.
 
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