If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(CNN)   Final report on Sandy Hook shooting issued. Unsurprisingly, the shooter was obsessed with mass shootings and video games; one video game in particular that he would spend 10 hours or more a day on. Guess which one   (cnn.com) divider line 317
    More: Followup, officials report, Connecticut State Police, Sandy Hook Elementary School, music game, mass shooting, Glock pistols, .22 Long Rifle, semi-automatic rifle  
•       •       •

19822 clicks; posted to Main » on 25 Nov 2013 at 8:38 PM (47 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



317 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest
 
2013-11-25 06:29:33 PM  
Frogger?
 
2013-11-25 06:33:57 PM  
Maybe he thought that fancy footwork would come in handy when on the run?

Still, so sad.
 
2013-11-25 06:35:04 PM  
Pikmin?
 
2013-11-25 06:41:49 PM  
Pacman?
 
2013-11-25 06:50:06 PM  
I know I shouldn't, but I LOLed.

What an odd game for a mass murderer of children to be obsessed over.
 
2013-11-25 06:52:29 PM  
You know damn well it was Polybius.
 
2013-11-25 07:15:29 PM  
Hahahahahahaha!

Nice troll, subby. I'm giving you a +1.
 
2013-11-25 07:22:02 PM  

Ambivalence: I know I shouldn't, but I LOLed.

What an odd game for a mass murderer of children to be obsessed over.


Dammit, I did too.

I was expecting your typical Call of Duty or GTA, or maybe even Postal or old school Doom.

But DDR?! Was he also wearing a Woody Allen jacket?
 
2013-11-25 07:54:23 PM  
QWOP?
 
2013-11-25 07:56:11 PM  
i.fosfor.se
 
2013-11-25 07:56:20 PM  

HawgWild: Pacman?


If video games influenced kids. People that grew up in the 80's playing pacman would have spent the 90's in neon lit darken rooms, dancing around to techno music and munching on magic power pills........oh crap.
 
2013-11-25 07:58:29 PM  
Dance Dance Revolution has almost pushed me over the edge on a few occasions. Seriously though, I think this makes a pretty good case for how ludicrous the "video games made him do it" argument can be. I'm more likely to buy throwing down an electronic-beat is making people psycho.
 
2013-11-25 08:01:44 PM  
ET?
 
2013-11-25 08:11:08 PM  
imageshack.us

Also discovered as his laptop wallpaper.
 
2013-11-25 08:22:54 PM  
Short of a My Little Pony game, that really is the last game I would've possibly thought of.
 
2013-11-25 08:28:56 PM  
I assumed it would be something ridiculous, but I did not see that one coming.
 
2013-11-25 08:29:21 PM  
Thus concludes tonight's edition of Creepy White People Habits
 
2013-11-25 08:38:58 PM  
I used to like playing DDR.  I used to be pretty decent.  Not insanely good, but able to hold my own.  One time I was having a great session at an arcade and a few people stopped and watched.  Once I finished, one woman came up to me and said "Wow, and you're not even Asian!"

/CSB
 
2013-11-25 08:40:32 PM  
Subby and Godscrack:
cdn.overclock.net
 
2013-11-25 08:41:21 PM  

Godscrack: [imageshack.us image 612x765]

Also discovered as his laptop wallpaper.


Why am I broke.

You deserve a one-month TF extension for that one.
 
2013-11-25 08:41:22 PM  

Godscrack: [imageshack.us image 612x765]

Also discovered as his laptop wallpaper.


Stayin' Alive obviously wasn't his intent.
 
2013-11-25 08:41:34 PM  
Minecraft? It's a killer. I just learned that from South Park, my sole source of information on what the kids are into when they are not on my lawn.
 
2013-11-25 08:42:21 PM  
games.bigfishgames.com

I've killed children when I've failed to beat my high score.
 
2013-11-25 08:42:38 PM  

Ambivalence: I know I shouldn't, but I LOLed.

What an odd game for a mass murderer of children to be obsessed over.


Isn't that game chock full of Britney Spears songs?  Can we blame it on her?
 
2013-11-25 08:42:57 PM  
Leisure Suit Larry?
 
2013-11-25 08:43:06 PM  
Somebody needs to troll the shiat out I'd Wayne LaPierre with this revelation.
 
2013-11-25 08:43:20 PM  
Loderunner.
 
2013-11-25 08:43:29 PM  
So not "government agent", then. Got it, Mr. Government Spokesman.
 
2013-11-25 08:44:23 PM  
Of, even. I would not Wayne LaPierre.
 
2013-11-25 08:45:22 PM  
Hello Kitty Adventure Island?
 
2013-11-25 08:47:07 PM  
FTFA: And investigators found "a large number" of guns in the home. All of them had been bought by his mother, Nancy Lanza, who grew up with firearms and "thought it was good to learn responsibility for guns," the report states.

Well that worked out well.
 
2013-11-25 08:47:54 PM  
Mario Kart?

DNRTFA

What do I win?
 
2013-11-25 08:47:55 PM  
voxnova2.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-11-25 08:48:19 PM  

Godscrack: [imageshack.us image 612x765]

Also discovered as his laptop wallpaper.


i didn't know a person's eyes could be that wide open.  That photo haunts my nightmares.  So much whites in the eyes visible.
 
2013-11-25 08:48:27 PM  

Godscrack: [imageshack.us image 612x765]

Also discovered as his laptop wallpaper.


Okay, Godscrack, I usually only smile at funny posts, but that one made me laugh out loud. Good job. :)
 
2013-11-25 08:49:14 PM  
Well. That young man certainly didn't look crazy.
 
2013-11-25 08:49:41 PM  
The fact that his mom was a paranoid Tea-Party "prepper", who communicated with him exclusively via email for two years, even though they lived in the same house, probably didn't help his crazy very much.
 
2013-11-25 08:49:57 PM  
Was it this one?

amazingasset.com
 
2013-11-25 08:50:15 PM  
Jesus, DDR?  I figured WoW or GTA, but DDR?

That guy must have been batshiat bag of cats crazy.  The kind of crazy where you wear the skins of dead children as a fashion statement.
 
2013-11-25 08:50:21 PM  

Quaker: FTFA: And investigators found "a large number" of guns in the home. All of them had been bought by his mother, Nancy Lanza, who grew up with firearms and "thought it was good to learn responsibility for guns," the report states.

Well that worked out well.


Yeah, wouldn't keeping them out of the hands of your obviously batshiat insanecrotchfruit count as responsible?
 
2013-11-25 08:50:35 PM  
That was going to be my joke answer, good thing I read the article first.

(Seriously, I was going to type "Dance Dance Revolution?" and then pat myself on the back having guessed the most absurd choice)
 
2013-11-25 08:51:12 PM  

BalugaJoe: Loderunner.


Someone needs to bring it back.
 
2013-11-25 08:51:22 PM  

Fissile: The fact that his mom was a paranoid Tea-Party "prepper", who communicated with him exclusively via email for two years, even though they lived in the same house, probably didn't help his crazy very much.


lol, is that email part real?
 
2013-11-25 08:52:54 PM  
Oregon Trail?
 
2013-11-25 08:53:18 PM  
Another one for the old: "mental illness causes violent behavior. Not video games".

I wonder if his mom was going to commit him...
 
2013-11-25 08:53:43 PM  

Jesus Farking Christ: Jesus, DDR?  I figured WoW or GTA, but DDR?

That guy must have been batshiat bag of cats crazy.  The kind of crazy where you wear the skins of dead children as a fashion statement.


Exactly what I thought. Buffalo Bob would love to take some notes, cause this dude was all kinds of crazy.
 
2013-11-25 08:54:06 PM  
Bunnies and Burrows?
 
2013-11-25 08:54:07 PM  
number munchers
 
2013-11-25 08:54:15 PM  

ThrnPhl: Pikmin?


If loving Pikmin is a crime, then send me to jail right now. I'm thinking of buying a Wii U for the sole reason of being able to play Pikmin 3.
 
2013-11-25 08:54:23 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
You're gonna break the game you're so good!
 
2013-11-25 08:55:14 PM  
"The shooter was particular about the food that he ate and its arrangement on a plate in relation to other foods on the plate"

Oh crap, that sounds just like my 3 year old
 
2013-11-25 08:55:54 PM  
I would have guessed tokimeki memorial girls side
 
2013-11-25 08:56:31 PM  
Wouldn't be surprised if he always love My Little Ponies.
 
2013-11-25 08:57:06 PM  

shortymac: I wonder if his mom was going to commit him...


It's pretty much impossible to involuntarily commit somebody these days. Very smart reform, that one. Instead of ending abuses at mental hospitals, we just closed the mental hospitals and dumped everyone in them back into society. Brilliant plan, that.
 
2013-11-25 08:57:41 PM  
So yeah can we just agree that it's not a great idea to teach your mentally retarded son how to use guns?
 
2013-11-25 08:58:01 PM  
I love this little gem from TFA:
"Lanza "had significant mental health issues that affected his ability to live a normal life and to interact with others," the report states. But it adds, "What contribution this made to the shootings, if any, is unknown as those mental health professionals who saw him did not see anything that would have predicted his future behavior."

What do you mean you don't know what kind of contribution mental health issues involving inability to properly interact with others had on his decision to go on a shooting spree? Your average well adjusted mentally stable person sure as fark don't up and decide to go shoot up a school for no real reason.
 
2013-11-25 08:58:07 PM  
We Love Katamari?
 
2013-11-25 08:58:24 PM  
We love katamari...

/naana nanana na Katamari Damacy..
 
2013-11-25 08:58:44 PM  
He sounds OCD (the food arrangement thing), autistic, sociopathic, and psychopathic, all wrapped up into one skinny package of CRAZY.
 
2013-11-25 08:58:49 PM  
In the words of Chris Rock, what happened to just crazy?

Really letting someone who puts trash bags over their window and "has no emotion" shoot guns?

I mean I *love* guns, but this was a failure on so many levels.
 
2013-11-25 08:58:50 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Wouldn't be surprised if he always love My Little Ponies.


Paging Bronyhardinparamedic to the thread.
 
2013-11-25 08:59:11 PM  
Minecraft?
 
2013-11-25 08:59:29 PM  

JesusJuice: We Love Katamari?


How!?
 
2013-11-25 09:00:15 PM  
CNN breaking news. THIS JUST IN: SHOOTER LIKED PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLY SANDWICHES
 
2013-11-25 09:02:30 PM  
For those who didn't read the PDF (CNN glossed over the games listing):

Numerous video games were located in the basement computer/gaming area. The list of video
games includes, but is not limited to:

-"Grand Theft Auto"
-"Shin Megami Tensei"
-"Dynasty Warriors"
-"Vice City"
-"Team Fortress"
-"Doom"
-"Left for Dead"
-"Metal Gear Solid"
-"Dead Rising"
-"Half Life"
-"Battlefield"
-"Call of Duty"
 
2013-11-25 09:02:36 PM  
How dare they blame violent video games for school shoo...

/retracts knee

Nothing to see here.
 
2013-11-25 09:02:38 PM  
Shelter?

Read the article and never would have guessed. One thing made me think though, the black paper bag over the windows... I've seriously thought of doing that... I've been suicidal but I never really wanted to kill other peoples except in fantasy land. I also do not own or want to own firearms. I would not mind non working reproductions that cannot be made to work.

The guy also seem to be autistic like me, well I mostly adapted well until recently and he did not. To everyone out there: If you feel you might be autistic and have to pretend to be normal, go consult before you snap.
 
2013-11-25 09:03:46 PM  
Just noticed he used a .223 Bushmaster.  Same gun the D.C. snipers used.
 
2013-11-25 09:03:57 PM  
 FREAKIN DDR I KNEW THAT GAME WAS EVIL!!!
 
2013-11-25 09:05:12 PM  
Ai yai yai
I'm your little butterfly
Green black and blue make the colours in the sky
Ai yai yai
I'm your little butterfly
Green black and blue make the colours in the sky
 
2013-11-25 09:05:13 PM  

corq: For those who didn't read the PDF (CNN glossed over the games listing):

Numerous video games were located in the basement computer/gaming area. The list of video
games includes, but is not limited to:

-"Grand Theft Auto"
-"Shin Megami Tensei"
-"Dynasty Warriors"
-"Vice City"
-"Team Fortress"
-"Doom"
-"Left for Dead"
-"Metal Gear Solid"
-"Dead Rising"
-"Half Life"
-"Battlefield"
-"Call of Duty"


That list was clearly complied by someone who has no idea about video games.
 
2013-11-25 09:06:36 PM  
You are all missing the truly crazy part of this. He went to a movie theatre and pumped quarters into a DDR game for up to 10 hours straight and NOBODY thought this was weird behavior.

This must have cost him hundred, maybe thousands of dollars.
 
2013-11-25 09:06:37 PM  

JonBuck: He sounds OCD (the food arrangement thing), autistic, sociopathic, and psychopathic, all wrapped up into one skinny package of CRAZY.


It's sad all around, sounds like he really needed help but wasn't getting it.
 
2013-11-25 09:06:53 PM  
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-11-25 09:07:08 PM  

Watubi: "The shooter was particular about the food that he ate and its arrangement on a plate in relation to other foods on the plate"

Oh crap, that sounds just like my 3 year old


At 3 years old, that happens. At 20 years old, that's troubling.
 
2013-11-25 09:08:20 PM  

pyrotek85: It's sad all around, sounds like he really needed help but wasn't getting it.


at least dylan had eric
 
2013-11-25 09:08:27 PM  
I guess that throws the "video games made him do it" theory into a cocked hat.
 
2013-11-25 09:08:40 PM  
I bet he had this one too

atariage.com
 
2013-11-25 09:08:46 PM  
The other day I was reading this book... it started out interesting, but then the more I read, there was endless violence, murder, incest, rape, and even brutal torture.
I usually don't support book burning, but this one might be an exception.
We need to get this horrible content away from young impressionable minds, or for that matter anyone who might read it.
Oh yeah, the name of the book was "the Bible".
 
2013-11-25 09:09:07 PM  

you are a puppet: Fissile: The fact that his mom was a paranoid Tea-Party "prepper", who communicated with him exclusively via email for two years, even though they lived in the same house, probably didn't help his crazy very much.

lol, is that email part real?


==============

Yup.  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513067/Sandy-Hook-prosecutor s -report-released-today-details.html

Check out the picture of his bedroom

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2013-11-25 09:09:48 PM  

you are a puppet: Fissile: The fact that his mom was a paranoid Tea-Party "prepper", who communicated with him exclusively via email for two years, even though they lived in the same house, probably didn't help his crazy very much.

lol, is that email part real?


Don't forget dad and brother basically checking out of his life, kid is already disturbed but only communicating with his mom didn't help.

Why wasn't he in any sort of therapy? Drugs can be scary but she could have afforded talk or cbt therapy.
 
2013-11-25 09:09:58 PM  

Dust: QWOP?


that would drive anyone to madness over a period of time.

Godscrack: [imageshack.us image 612x765]

Also discovered as his laptop wallpaper.


i dub thee
erroraccessdenied.com
 
2013-11-25 09:11:18 PM  

Fissile: you are a puppet: Fissile: The fact that his mom was a paranoid Tea-Party "prepper", who communicated with him exclusively via email for two years, even though they lived in the same house, probably didn't help his crazy very much.

lol, is that email part real?

==============

Yup.  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513067/Sandy-Hook-prosecutor s -report-released-today-details.html

Check out the picture of his bedroom

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x418]


Arrgh, his pillow is off-centered. That would drive me nuts.
 
2013-11-25 09:12:50 PM  

shortymac: Why wasn't he in any sort of therapy? Drugs can be scary but she could have afforded talk or cbt therapy.


You think some cock and ball torture would have helped?
 
2013-11-25 09:13:44 PM  

Triumph: BalugaJoe: Loderunner.

Someone needs to bring it back.


You aint whistling Dixie.
 
2013-11-25 09:15:06 PM  

Begoggle: The other day I was reading this book... it started out interesting, but then the more I read, there was endless violence, murder, incest, rape, and even brutal torture.
I usually don't support book burning, but this one might be an exception.
We need to get this horrible content away from young impressionable minds, or for that matter anyone who might read it.
Oh yeah, the name of the book was "the Bible".


You should have kept reading, it gets really good around page 836.
 
2013-11-25 09:15:11 PM  

Snarfangel: Fissile: you are a puppet: Fissile: The fact that his mom was a paranoid Tea-Party "prepper", who communicated with him exclusively via email for two years, even though they lived in the same house, probably didn't help his crazy very much.

lol, is that email part real?

==============

Yup.  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513067/Sandy-Hook-prosecutor s -report-released-today-details.html

Check out the picture of his bedroom

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x418]

Arrgh, his pillow is off-centered. That would drive me nuts.


=================

And the black plastic on the windows is just crazy...............I only use the heavy gauge aluminum Reynolds Wrap ®
 
2013-11-25 09:16:14 PM  

cretinbob: [voxnova2.files.wordpress.com image 720x464]


Well, none of them have their fingers on the trigger. Guy has poor taste in firearms all around, though. I doubt he actually uses any of those.
 
2013-11-25 09:18:03 PM  
Interesting that DDR was his addiction. I'm pretty sure I can guess his motive though. I might get a visit from the FBI over this, but I've said a few times that I'd like to firebomb my middle school (at night, I don't want to hurt anyone) when I'm like 90. I think those buildings were built by pure evil.

/let's just say the teachers and admins were on the bully's side
//I got told "Deal with it," in spite of the scars on my wrist
 
2013-11-25 09:20:48 PM  
So it seems this kid wanted to beat Anders Behring Breivik in the kill count department.

Didn't it occur to him that the reason Breivik got close to triple digits was because he set off a massive distraction that pulled away half his country's police force, then went on a rampage on a secluded island where no one could escape and no one could come to help for hours, all while dressed as an officer of the law to get victims to let down their guard? In addition to stocking up on steroids and beta blockers?

The verdict is in: narcissistic personality disorder and sociopathy beats obsessive-compulsive disorder and autism hands down.
 
2013-11-25 09:23:00 PM  

Godscrack: [imageshack.us image 612x765]

Also discovered as his laptop wallpaper.


I have the strangest urge to shoot a bunch of people right now.
 
2013-11-25 09:23:35 PM  
Wow, the gubment really did a job on him.
 
2013-11-25 09:24:50 PM  
Lanza "did not drink alcohol, take drugs, prescription or otherwise..."

Is this gonna make my Scientologist acquaintance STFU about blaming this shooting on psychiatric drugs?

/ No, it will not
 
2013-11-25 09:25:12 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: Just noticed he used a .223 Bushmaster.  Same gun the D.C. snipers used.


Which, of course, they identified as an AR-15.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-25 09:26:48 PM  
Dwarf Fortress?
 
2013-11-25 09:27:46 PM  

medius: pyrotek85: It's sad all around, sounds like he really needed help but wasn't getting it.

at least dylan had eric


Oh. man...my first thought was Dylan & Clapton before I remembered the Columbine shooters' names, and I had a serious WTF moment.
 
2013-11-25 09:29:11 PM  
i48.tinypic.com
 
2013-11-25 09:30:34 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: corq: For those who didn't read the PDF (CNN glossed over the games listing):

Numerous video games were located in the basement computer/gaming area. The list of video
games includes, but is not limited to:

...
-"Shin Megami Tensei"
...


Bad Fusion. That'd piss me off too.
 
2013-11-25 09:30:42 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: Just noticed he used a .223 Bushmaster.  Same gun the D.C. snipers used.


Probably chosen for that reason, considering his fandom.
 
2013-11-25 09:31:41 PM  
Dig Dug?
 
2013-11-25 09:33:12 PM  
I knew it! We should all ban Dance Dance Revolution! It's a hopping simulation that exercises your thighs, legs, feet, and heart and prepares your stamina so that when you need to run after killing lots of people, you'll be able to escape without losing much breath!
 
2013-11-25 09:33:44 PM  
Hello Kitty Island Adventure?
 
2013-11-25 09:34:45 PM  
Okay I'll admit it. I'm not sure what I was expecting but it wasn't that.
 
2013-11-25 09:35:05 PM  

gerbilpox: Which, of course, they identified as an AR-15.


Who is "they"?
 
2013-11-25 09:35:08 PM  

Rozinante: cretinbob: [voxnova2.files.wordpress.com image 720x464]

Well, none of them have their fingers on the trigger. Guy has poor taste in firearms all around, though. I doubt he actually uses any of those.


This. My first thought when I saw those kids was "good trigger discipline." (Was that wrong?)


/2nd was: women w/guns=hawt
 
2013-11-25 09:35:09 PM  
Kerbal Space Program?
 
2013-11-25 09:35:13 PM  

Ambivalence: I know I shouldn't, but I LOLed.

What an odd game for a mass murderer of children to be obsessed over.


Did you ever think maybe that was on purpose?  Maybe he was sick of hearing all the nonsense on TV about violent video games causing kids to behave violently.  Maybe he decided he was going to add a seemingly innocuous game to the list of things crazed shooters liked doing.

Then again, maybe he started out perfectly sane, and DDR broke his mind.
 
2013-11-25 09:35:26 PM  
Champions of Krynn?
 
2013-11-25 09:36:08 PM  

gerbilpox: Pumpernickel bread: Just noticed he used a .223 Bushmaster.  Same gun the D.C. snipers used.

Which, of course, they identified as an AR-15.

[i.imgur.com image 671x519]


Don't start that stupid shiat.
 
2013-11-25 09:36:45 PM  
That motherfarker was craaaaazy. The last thing he needed was access to lots and lots of guns.

Lots of mom fail here.
 
2013-11-25 09:37:03 PM  

jaytkay: gerbilpox: Which, of course, they identified as an AR-15.

Who is "they"?

Sshhhh.

They'll hear you!
 
rka
2013-11-25 09:38:30 PM  
If this had been 30 years ago I would have said the game was Atari's ET-The Extraterrestrial.

That pointlessness of that game was enough to drive anyone to commit mass murder.
 
2013-11-25 09:38:55 PM  
I assume Fox News will be all over this, right?
 
2013-11-25 09:39:00 PM  

The Lizard People: Kerbal Space Program?


Admittedly, that did make me homicidal at one point.

Then there were the flashbacks during "Kerbal Space Program: The Movie", or as it was released in America, "Gravity".
 
2013-11-25 09:39:14 PM  

TOSViolation: Did you ever think maybe that was on purpose?  Maybe he was sick of hearing all the nonsense on TV about violent video games causing kids to behave violently.  Maybe he decided he was going to add a seemingly innocuous game to the list of things crazed shooters liked doing.

Then again, maybe he started out perfectly sane, and DDR broke his mind.


If he just bought the game? Maybe. But he spent hours and hours playing it, up to 10 hours at a time. That's some dedication if he meant to use it as a diversion.
 
2013-11-25 09:40:16 PM  

Hagbardr: Champions of Krynn?


I reeeaaalllyy would love to see the old SSI AD&D Gold Box games get a reboot. I played the fark out of the Krynn and Phlan series and miss them despite how klunky the game play would be to my modern sensibilities.

/perhaps turn it into an RTS, though that starts getting into Baldurs Gate territory
 
2013-11-25 09:41:15 PM  
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaw, I remember the days when Dennis' Place For Games was still around in Chicago, and I would try to play DDR ridiculously drunk after work, narrowly missing those back bars and several other things. Good times good times.
 
2013-11-25 09:41:23 PM  
[REDACTED DUE TO NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT]?
 
2013-11-25 09:42:03 PM  

GreenSun: I knew it! We should all ban Dance Dance Revolution! It's a hopping simulation that exercises your thighs, legs, feet, and heart and prepares your stamina so that when you need to run after killing lots of people, you'll be able to escape without losing much breath!


Add a backpack with a kilo of weed and you'll have calves the size of cantaloupes!

pyrotek85: TOSViolation: Did you ever think maybe that was on purpose?  Maybe he was sick of hearing all the nonsense on TV about violent video games causing kids to behave violently.  Maybe he decided he was going to add a seemingly innocuous game to the list of things crazed shooters liked doing.

Then again, maybe he started out perfectly sane, and DDR broke his mind.

If he just bought the game? Maybe. But he spent hours and hours playing it, up to 10 hours at a time. That's some dedication if he meant to use it as a diversion.


There are times when reality is really that bad.
 
2013-11-25 09:42:09 PM  
Ah nega Lanza. I hate that guy
 
2013-11-25 09:42:22 PM  
Look at how famous he is now.

You're oggling over every detail of his life. His name is all over the news, the internet. Everyone knows his face. They want to know how and what he ate, what he did every day. every single detail of his life is now being picked over and shown to the entire world.

You made him famous. More famous then a movie star. More famous then Jay Leno. More famous then Carson Daily.  More famous then Mr. Rodgers.

And all it took to get him all this fame... was to kill a few people.

Murder sprees are the new way to be famous in America.

No wonder they keep happening.

/When is the movie coming out?
//We can go meta and make a video game out of his life too.
 
2013-11-25 09:42:54 PM  
Clearly this wouldn't have happened if he had stuck to more civilized games such as Dance Dance Establishment.
 
2013-11-25 09:43:07 PM  

dukef: CNN breaking news. THIS JUST IN: SHOOTER LIKED PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLY SANDWICHES


With the crusts cut off and sliced into non-euclidean shapes.
 
2013-11-25 09:43:30 PM  
QIx?

Joust?

Tempest?
 
2013-11-25 09:43:52 PM  

fluffy2097: Look at how famous he is now.

You're oggling over every detail of his life. His name is all over the news, the internet. Everyone knows his face. They want to know how and what he ate, what he did every day. every single detail of his life is now being picked over and shown to the entire world.

You made him famous. More famous then a movie star. More famous then Jay Leno. More famous then Carson Daily.  More famous then Mr. Rodgers.

And all it took to get him all this fame... was to kill a few people.

Murder sprees are the new way to be famous in America.

No wonder they keep happening.

/When is the movie coming out?
//We can go meta and make a video game out of his life too.


There ain't nothing new about American murder sprees.
 
2013-11-25 09:44:11 PM  
Remember - if you take away feet, then only bad guys will only have feet.
 
2013-11-25 09:44:23 PM  
Spider Solitaire.

I've played 100 games at work (competition on a S L O W night)
I could see it in my sleep.
 
2013-11-25 09:45:18 PM  

HooskerDoo: gerbilpox: Pumpernickel bread: Just noticed he used a .223 Bushmaster.  Same gun the D.C. snipers used.

Which, of course, they identified as an AR-15.

[i.imgur.com image 671x519]

Don't start that stupid shiat.


Is that chart not correct? All I know about guns is from Google image search. But I also know Colt & Bushmaster are different brands, so I can look down my nose at Them.


/whoever They are
 
2013-11-25 09:45:59 PM  
The crazy part is probably that he didn't play with a dance mat, he used a normal controller.
 
2013-11-25 09:46:05 PM  

germ78: Hagbardr: Champions of Krynn?

I reeeaaalllyy would love to see the old SSI AD&D Gold Box games get a reboot. I played the fark out of the Krynn and Phlan series and miss them despite how klunky the game play would be to my modern sensibilities.

/perhaps turn it into an RTS, though that starts getting into Baldurs Gate territory


I would love a modern remake. I would prefer them to be turn based though.
 
2013-11-25 09:47:52 PM  

HooskerDoo: There ain't nothing new about American murder sprees.


The media coverage of them sure is new.

Simply someone THINKING there might be a gun somewhere puts all the news stations on DefCon 1 and they talk about it all farking day long.

Meanwhile, it was a 10 year old with a nerf gun.
 
2013-11-25 09:48:03 PM  

sat1va: Clearly this wouldn't have happened if he had stuck to more civilized games such as Dance Dance Establishment.


bahahahaha
 
2013-11-25 09:48:44 PM  

TommyDeuce: QIx?

Joust?

Tempest?


Q*bert. Snake got him one too many times, cussing symbols just wasn't enough.
 
2013-11-25 09:49:02 PM  
So the take away from this report is that Lanza was a frustrated dancer and snapped. This could've all be avoided had he befriended a black person.
 
2013-11-25 09:49:05 PM  

Watubi: Oh crap, that sounds just like my 3 year old


I was like that, then I made the mistake of complaining at grandpas dinner table. It's been close to 50 years I still remember that look.
 
2013-11-25 09:50:04 PM  
Pictures from the Lanza Collection

www.trbimg.com

www.trbimg.com

N64 & Dreamcast - clearly there were signs
 
2013-11-25 09:51:32 PM  

fluffy2097: Look at how famous he is now.

You're oggling over every detail of his life. His name is all over the news, the internet. Everyone knows his face. They want to know how and what he ate, what he did every day. every single detail of his life is now being picked over and shown to the entire world.

You made him famous. More famous then a movie star. More famous then Jay Leno. More famous then Carson Daily.  More famous then Mr. Rodgers.

And all it took to get him all this fame... was to kill a few people.

Murder sprees are the new way to be famous in America.

No wonder they keep happening.

/When is the movie coming out?
//We can go meta and make a video game out of his life too.


"New"? "New??"

You were still an itch in your daddy's pants when Son of Sam went viral for his time, weren't you.
 
2013-11-25 09:52:16 PM  

Peki: pyrotek85: TOSViolation: Did you ever think maybe that was on purpose?  Maybe he was sick of hearing all the nonsense on TV about violent video games causing kids to behave violently.  Maybe he decided he was going to add a seemingly innocuous game to the list of things crazed shooters liked doing.

Then again, maybe he started out perfectly sane, and DDR broke his mind.

If he just bought the game? Maybe. But he spent hours and hours playing it, up to 10 hours at a time. That's some dedication if he meant to use it as a diversion.

There are times when reality is really that bad.


Well given all the other odd behavior I guess it's certainly possible. I guess sane people can't ever truly understand how someone like that might think.
 
2013-11-25 09:52:18 PM  
Do we have any pictures of Lee Harvy Oswald's bedroom?

Did we list his hobbies, his eating habits? What he read? What movie theaters he went to? Did we hold any of these things up we did know on a 24 hour news network with a photo of him while pundits yammered on and on about the children?

Nope! We mourned the loss of the dead.

/People go on shooting sprees to be famous.
//May as well go out with a bang
///At least your name will be remembered.
 
2013-11-25 09:52:19 PM  

fluffy2097: The media coverage of them sure is new.


img.fark.net
 
2013-11-25 09:54:24 PM  

Watubi: "The shooter was particular about the food that he ate and its arrangement on a plate in relation to other foods on the plate"

Oh crap, that sounds just like my 3 year old


Also, every adult with Asperger's ever.
 
2013-11-25 09:54:36 PM  

JonBuck: He sounds OCD (the food arrangement thing), autistic, sociopathic, and psychopathic, all wrapped up into one skinny package of CRAZY.


And his mother thought it would be a good idea to give him free access to guns and teach him how to use them. And what is even more crazy, there are people that will defend his right to be able to have access to guns, even knowing this, just to make a political point.
 
2013-11-25 09:55:35 PM  

pyrotek85: Peki: pyrotek85: TOSViolation: Did you ever think maybe that was on purpose?  Maybe he was sick of hearing all the nonsense on TV about violent video games causing kids to behave violently.  Maybe he decided he was going to add a seemingly innocuous game to the list of things crazed shooters liked doing.

Then again, maybe he started out perfectly sane, and DDR broke his mind.

If he just bought the game? Maybe. But he spent hours and hours playing it, up to 10 hours at a time. That's some dedication if he meant to use it as a diversion.

There are times when reality is really that bad.

Well given all the other odd behavior I guess it's certainly possible. I guess sane people can't ever truly understand how someone like that might think.


No, which is why I can give a glimpse. ;)

/had a breakthrough recently, so I think I'm through the worst, but holy hell it was ugly there for a while
 
2013-11-25 09:56:19 PM  

fluffy2097: Do we have any pictures of Lee Harvy Oswald's bedroom?

Did we list his hobbies, his eating habits? What he read? What movie theaters he went to? Did we hold any of these things up we did know on a 24 hour news network with a photo of him while pundits yammered on and on about the children?

Nope! We mourned the loss of the dead.

/People go on shooting sprees to be famous.
//May as well go out with a bang
///At least your name will be remembered.


Study it out. All of that stuff is known about Oswald.
 
2013-11-25 09:56:50 PM  
He obviously thought it was this DDR:

www.crwflags.com
 
2013-11-25 09:57:05 PM  

ongbok: And his mother thought it would be a good idea to give him free access to guns and teach him how to use them. And what is even more crazy, there are people that will defend his right to be able to have access to guns, even knowing this, just to make a political point.


All of whom are conspicuously absent from this thread.
 
2013-11-25 09:57:47 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-11-25 09:58:23 PM  

freewill: Watubi: "The shooter was particular about the food that he ate and its arrangement on a plate in relation to other foods on the plate"

Oh crap, that sounds just like my 3 year old

Also, every adult with Asperger's ever.


So. . . it's not normal to make sure that the juice from the steak doesn't invade your mashed potatoes, or that you like the little plates with all the different divisions on them?

/"I'm a military man, I like a military meal"
 
2013-11-25 09:59:24 PM  

gerbilpox: Pumpernickel bread: Just noticed he used a .223 Bushmaster.  Same gun the D.C. snipers used.

Which, of course, they identified as an AR-15.

[i.imgur.com image 671x519]


I don't get it. I mean I get the joke of the picture where everything on the AR-15 is described in a hugely exaggerated manner, but identifying a .223 Bushmaster as an AR-15 variant is correct.
 
2013-11-25 10:00:16 PM  
Tetris?
 
2013-11-25 10:00:17 PM  

fluffy2097: Do we have any pictures of Lee Harvy Oswald's bedroom?


img.fark.net

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-peek-inside-lee-harvey-oswalds-room/
 
2013-11-25 10:05:28 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: gerbilpox: Pumpernickel bread: Just noticed he used a .223 Bushmaster.  Same gun the D.C. snipers used.

Which, of course, they identified as an AR-15.

[i.imgur.com image 671x519]

I don't get it. I mean I get the joke of the picture where everything on the AR-15 is described in a hugely exaggerated manner, but identifying a .223 Bushmaster as an AR-15 variant is correct.


It's also a ridiculously common rifle. So the fact that he used one isn't surprising in the least. I don't get it either.
 
2013-11-25 10:06:21 PM  

freewill: Watubi: "The shooter was particular about the food that he ate and its arrangement on a plate in relation to other foods on the plate"

Oh crap, that sounds just like my 3 year old

Also, every adult with Asperger's ever.


Some adults with Asperger. I only insist that the meat is nearest me. I prefer my potatoes to the left of of the other veggies but I won't re-arrange them if they're not.
 
2013-11-25 10:09:00 PM  

ongbok: Study it out. All of that stuff is known about Oswald.


Study it out.

Tell me a single faster way to get on every news network in the nation for Months on end?

There is only one way you can become famous in the blink of an eye.  Pulling a trigger and killing someone.

/Did you know the surviving Boston Bomber has a FAN CLUB?
//Nobody knows his name because they can't pronounce it though.
 
2013-11-25 10:10:12 PM  

fluffy2097: ongbok: Study it out. All of that stuff is known about Oswald.

Study it out.

Tell me a single faster way to get on every news network in the nation for Months on end?

There is only one way you can become famous in the blink of an eye.  Pulling a trigger and killing someone.

/Did you know the surviving Boston Bomber has a FAN CLUB?
//Nobody knows his name because they can't pronounce it though.


Hey I don't condone what he did. I just joined for the cool stickers.
 
2013-11-25 10:10:23 PM  

fluffy2097: ongbok: Study it out. All of that stuff is known about Oswald.

Study it out.

Tell me a single faster way to get on every news network in the nation for Months on end?

There is only one way you can become famous in the blink of an eye.  Pulling a trigger and killing someone.

/Did you know the surviving Boston Bomber has a FAN CLUB?
//Nobody knows his name because they can't pronounce it though.


So does Charles Manson. farked up people do farked up things and farked up people follow them. This has been going on since the beginning of time.
 
2013-11-25 10:11:05 PM  

fluffy2097: Do we have any pictures of Lee Harvy Oswald's bedroom?

Did we list his hobbies, his eating habits? What he read? What movie theaters he went to? Did we hold any of these things up we did know on a 24 hour news network with a photo of him while pundits yammered on and on about the children?

Nope! We mourned the loss of the dead.

/People go on shooting sprees to be famous.
//May as well go out with a bang
///At least your name will be remembered.


Are you 14?  They did investigate Oswalds hobbies and books and places he went.
 
2013-11-25 10:11:56 PM  

Snarfangel: Fissile: you are a puppet: Fissile: The fact that his mom was a paranoid Tea-Party "prepper", who communicated with him exclusively via email for two years, even though they lived in the same house, probably didn't help his crazy very much.

lol, is that email part real?

==============

Yup.  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513067/Sandy-Hook-prosecutor s -report-released-today-details.html

Check out the picture of his bedroom

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x418]

Arrgh, his pillow is off-centered. That would drive me nuts.


The trash bags on the windows are the wrong size.  I couldn't sleep with that.
 
2013-11-25 10:13:31 PM  

ongbok: So does Charles Manson. farked up people do farked up things and farked up people follow them. This has been going on since the beginning of time.


No shiat.

Now notice how it's all sped up since 24 hour news networks have a collective orgasm every time they get to report on a mass murder.

/Could they might in fact be connected? Probably.
//Unless you believe school shootings are a terrorist plot.
 
2013-11-25 10:15:03 PM  

fluffy2097: There is only one way you can become famous in the blink of an eye. Pulling a trigger and killing someone.


cdn.straightfromthea.com
upload.wikimedia.org

markdavis.660amtheanswer.com

What spree killers look like.
 
2013-11-25 10:16:25 PM  

Peki: freewill: Watubi: "The shooter was particular about the food that he ate and its arrangement on a plate in relation to other foods on the plate"

Oh crap, that sounds just like my 3 year old

Also, every adult with Asperger's ever.

So. . . it's not normal to make sure that the juice from the steak doesn't invade your mashed potatoes, or that you like the little plates with all the different divisions on them?


The first strong warning sign I got that a friend's adult son probably had undiagnosed Asperger's came at a Thai restaurant. He'd been acting belligerent when we told him where we were going. He usually insisted on pizza or hamburgers in almost all cases, which I had taken to be some intense immaturity, but I'd never really thought there was anything "wrong".

When we got there, he was sitting there angry, and finally said he was not going to order anything because he "can't eat any of this stuff". I asked him what he meant, they were all common ingredients, and he went through a laundry list of things he "doesn't eat": eggs, broccoli, peanuts, green peppers, rice, etc. It was like Bubba on Forrest Gump talking about shrimp, except it was every food. I managed to talk him into trying a chicken satay appetizer because it was just chicken breast on a stick, and he grumbled for several minutes about it coming with sauce before he decided he could eat that.

It was only later that day that I realized he had almost every symptom of Asperger's, and that this was probably why he acted so suspicious when I suggested a wedge salad at another restaurant in the past. (Almost in a panic, "WHAT IS IT?" "It's a wedge of iceberg lettuce with bacon and blue cheese dressing." "IS THAT ALL?" as if I might be forgetting to mention the cyanide.)

As I understand it, people with Asperger's are often very dependent on routine and have an extremely linear way of thinking that makes it difficult for them to accept new, different ideas once they get an idea in place. This can come out in things like school work (learning one way of doing a math problem, and forever refusing to believe that any other way of solving it could possibly be right and thinking that people who do it differently are wrong), but I guess it's also common for it to come out in an extremely limited diet. They might identify a select few things as "food", and when they're introduced to things that they do not consider food, it's weird and stressful. We later found out that he basically ate nothing but frozen breadsticks and chicken breast at home.

I don't think people with Asperger's are dangerous or anything, but I can see how life for those who have a sufficiently severe case of it would be frustrating enough to cause someone who is already predisposed to violence to hurt people.
 
2013-11-25 10:16:34 PM  

fluffy2097: Do we have any pictures of Lee Harvy Oswald's bedroom?

Did we list his hobbies, his eating habits? What he read? What movie theaters he went to? Did we hold any of these things up we did know on a 24 hour news network with a photo of him while pundits yammered on and on about the children?

Nope! We mourned the loss of the dead.

/People go on shooting sprees to be famous.
//May as well go out with a bang
///At least your name will be remembered.


Similar things have been said of Lee Harvey Oswald's Russian wife:

1) Blamed the assassination on her leaving him (he was getting crazier and crazier)
2) Claimed she was a prostitute (she wasn't)
3) Claimed she was in on it (she wasn't)
4) Claimed she was a Russian Agent (she wasn't)

She is now a recluse because of the media attention.
 
2013-11-25 10:18:40 PM  
10 hours or more a day on? Was it...
blogs.chicagotribune.com ?
 
2013-11-25 10:19:24 PM  

BSABSVR: fluffy2097: There is only one way you can become famous in the blink of an eye. Pulling a trigger and killing someone.

[cdn.straightfromthea.com image 432x478]
[upload.wikimedia.org image 460x276]

[markdavis.660amtheanswer.com image 600x750]

What spree killers look like.


So spending months on a TV show is "the blink of an eye?"

Making a music video with original music, lyrics, and choreography takes 1/10th of a second?

How many years did Cruz spend getting to where he was?

/Click click BANG. Celebrity.
 
2013-11-25 10:20:11 PM  
When the Dance Dance Revolution comes, you will not be spared.
 
2013-11-25 10:21:32 PM  

shortymac: fluffy2097: Do we have any pictures of Lee Harvy Oswald's bedroom?

Did we list his hobbies, his eating habits? What he read? What movie theaters he went to? Did we hold any of these things up we did know on a 24 hour news network with a photo of him while pundits yammered on and on about the children?

Nope! We mourned the loss of the dead.

/People go on shooting sprees to be famous.
//May as well go out with a bang
///At least your name will be remembered.

Similar things have been said of Lee Harvey Oswald's Russian wife:

1) Blamed the assassination on her leaving him (he was getting crazier and crazier)
2) Claimed she was a prostitute (she wasn't)
3) Claimed she was in on it (she wasn't)
4) Claimed she was a Russian Agent (she wasn't)

She is now a recluse because of the media attention.


You'd think he would of bragged about killing JFK if he wanted the attention, but he said he was a patsy.
 
2013-11-25 10:28:40 PM  

talkertopc: freewill: Watubi: Some adults with Asperger. I only insist that the meat is nearest me. I prefer my potatoes to the left of of the other veggies but I won't re-arrange them if they're not.


I was being a bit facetious, but that actually sounds more like what I'd assume to be a trivial, casual OCD behavior. Is something like that really considered indicative of Asperger's?
 
2013-11-25 10:29:15 PM  

fluffy2097: BSABSVR: fluffy2097: There is only one way you can become famous in the blink of an eye. Pulling a trigger and killing someone.

[cdn.straightfromthea.com image 432x478]
[upload.wikimedia.org image 460x276]

[markdavis.660amtheanswer.com image 600x750]

What spree killers look like.

So spending months on a TV show is "the blink of an eye?"

Making a music video with original music, lyrics, and choreography takes 1/10th of a second?

How many years did Cruz spend getting to where he was?

/Click click BANG. Celebrity.


Well then if you want to continue with your dumb literal interpretation, anyone who planned their killing did not do so in the blink of an eye, as they had to buy, steal the gun, load the gun, transport themselves to the location of the shooting, etc..  Also you should probably learn what months are.
 
2013-11-25 10:29:27 PM  
Wonder what kind of shape he was in. I got winded after...well a while.
 
2013-11-25 10:29:38 PM  

freewill: Peki: freewill: Watubi: "The shooter was particular about the food that he ate and its arrangement on a plate in relation to other foods on the plate"

Oh crap, that sounds just like my 3 year old

Also, every adult with Asperger's ever.

So. . . it's not normal to make sure that the juice from the steak doesn't invade your mashed potatoes, or that you like the little plates with all the different divisions on them?

The first strong warning sign I got that a friend's adult son probably had undiagnosed Asperger's came at a Thai restaurant. He'd been acting belligerent when we told him where we were going. He usually insisted on pizza or hamburgers in almost all cases, which I had taken to be some intense immaturity, but I'd never really thought there was anything "wrong".

When we got there, he was sitting there angry, and finally said he was not going to order anything because he "can't eat any of this stuff". I asked him what he meant, they were all common ingredients, and he went through a laundry list of things he "doesn't eat": eggs, broccoli, peanuts, green peppers, rice, etc. It was like Bubba on Forrest Gump talking about shrimp, except it was every food. I managed to talk him into trying a chicken satay appetizer because it was just chicken breast on a stick, and he grumbled for several minutes about it coming with sauce before he decided he could eat that.

It was only later that day that I realized he had almost every symptom of Asperger's, and that this was probably why he acted so suspicious when I suggested a wedge salad at another restaurant in the past. (Almost in a panic, "WHAT IS IT?" "It's a wedge of iceberg lettuce with bacon and blue cheese dressing." "IS THAT ALL?" as if I might be forgetting to mention the cyanide.)

As I understand it, people with Asperger's are often very dependent on routine and have an extremely linear way of thinking that makes it difficult for them to accept new, different ideas once they get an idea in place. This can c ...


Autism has many markers in common with OCD, especially in children. Little kids love to stack things, sort them, arrange them in various ways--it's how they define and delineate their world. It's when that devotion to patterns becomes crippling or pathological that there's a problem.
 
2013-11-25 10:30:23 PM  

Deep Contact: You'd think he would of bragged about killing JFK if he wanted the attention, but he said he was a patsy.


...and because he said it, we're still arguing about him today.

Everything according to the attention whore's plan.
 
2013-11-25 10:30:40 PM  
I live one town over from Newtown and I've "danced" on the DDR machine at the movie theater Adam Lanza used to frequent.  There are other things that we had in common just by nature of living in such close proximity, but that is by far the weirdest.
 
2013-11-25 10:30:52 PM  
"My Little Pony Visits the Abattoir"
 
2013-11-25 10:31:28 PM  

tetsoushima: I live one town over from Newtown and I've "danced" on the DDR machine at the movie theater Adam Lanza used to frequent.  There are other things that we had in common just by nature of living in such close proximity, but that is by far the weirdest.


This one, FBI.
 
2013-11-25 10:33:19 PM  
The Baptists were right!
 
2013-11-25 10:37:31 PM  

fluffy2097: ongbok: So does Charles Manson. farked up people do farked up things and farked up people follow them. This has been going on since the beginning of time.

No shiat.

Now notice how it's all sped up since 24 hour news networks have a collective orgasm every time they get to report on a mass murder.

/Could they might in fact be connected? Probably.
//Unless you believe school shootings are a terrorist plot.


You are right. Lanza didn't kill those kids because he was a kid suffering from severe untreated mental illness and his mother thought the best thing for him would be to have guns shoved in his face, he did it because of the 24 hour news cycle and he thought he would be famous. Go ahead and blame it on everything besides the fact that he was mentally ill and was allowed access to guns, something people like you defend just to make a political point.
 
2013-11-25 10:40:03 PM  

cretinbob: [voxnova2.files.wordpress.com image 720x464]


That's ridiculous.

Who puts a scope like that on a carry handle mount? You'll never get a decent cheek weld that way, and the rifle doesn't even have a float tube so you probably couldn't shoot better than 2 MOA with it anyway.
 
2013-11-25 10:40:16 PM  
Gabriel knight probably
 
2013-11-25 10:42:25 PM  
 
2013-11-25 10:43:04 PM  
Found in Mohamed Atta's bedroom.


thumbs1.ebaystatic.com
 
2013-11-25 10:46:44 PM  
I was informed that the Dance Dance Revolution would not be televised.
 
2013-11-25 10:48:39 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: gerbilpox: Pumpernickel bread: Just noticed he used a .223 Bushmaster.  Same gun the D.C. snipers used.

Which, of course, they identified as an AR-15.

[i.imgur.com image 671x519]

I don't get it. I mean I get the joke of the picture where everything on the AR-15 is described in a hugely exaggerated manner, but identifying a .223 Bushmaster as an AR-15 variant is correct.


"Variant" being the key word They leave out.

OCD? No, why do you ask?
 
2013-11-25 10:50:14 PM  

The Martian Manhandler: ThrnPhl: Pikmin?

If loving Pikmin is a crime, then send me to jail right now. I'm thinking of buying a Wii U for the sole reason of being able to play Pikmin 3.


i didn't know there was a pikmin 3, now i'm considering your plan also
absolutely love that game!!
 
2013-11-25 10:51:00 PM  

freewill: Peki: freewill: Watubi: "The shooter was particular about the food that he ate and its arrangement on a plate in relation to other foods on the plate"

Oh crap, that sounds just like my 3 year old

Also, every adult with Asperger's ever.

So. . . it's not normal to make sure that the juice from the steak doesn't invade your mashed potatoes, or that you like the little plates with all the different divisions on them?

The first strong warning sign I got that a friend's adult son probably had undiagnosed Asperger's came at a Thai restaurant. He'd been acting belligerent when we told him where we were going. He usually insisted on pizza or hamburgers in almost all cases, which I had taken to be some intense immaturity, but I'd never really thought there was anything "wrong".

When we got there, he was sitting there angry, and finally said he was not going to order anything because he "can't eat any of this stuff". I asked him what he meant, they were all common ingredients, and he went through a laundry list of things he "doesn't eat": eggs, broccoli, peanuts, green peppers, rice, etc. It was like Bubba on Forrest Gump talking about shrimp, except it was every food. I managed to talk him into trying a chicken satay appetizer because it was just chicken breast on a stick, and he grumbled for several minutes about it coming with sauce before he decided he could eat that.

It was only later that day that I realized he had almost every symptom of Asperger's, and that this was probably why he acted so suspicious when I suggested a wedge salad at another restaurant in the past. (Almost in a panic, "WHAT IS IT?" "It's a wedge of iceberg lettuce with bacon and blue cheese dressing." "IS THAT ALL?" as if I might be forgetting to mention the cyanide.)

As I understand it, people with Asperger's are often very dependent on routine and have an extremely linear way of thinking that makes it difficult for them to accept new, different ideas once they get an idea in place. This can c ...


My brother has Asperger's, we're lucky that he didn't have too many issues with food. Basically, I found that (based on his peers in special ed class) it was either: "EAT ALL THE THINGS" or eat an extremely limited diet. Basically no one had a healthy "eat most food, but hates one or two things" diet.

However, the only "cure" for this is to slowly expose yourself to more and more foods, your body will adjust to the taste.

However, even from toddlerhood my brother had a lot of repetitive behavior/OCD issues. For example, he refused to have anything on my parent's coffee table. My Mom ended up removing coffee tables from the house until he was in his teens.

He also would play with his little hammer and block set, but he would ALWAYS hit the blocks in the same pattern. My Aunt gave him a starter set of hot wheels when he was 3 that he never played with, he set them up on his dresser in the same order as they where arranged in the package. My Mom would switch around 2 of them and he would know as soon as he walked in his bedroom that they had been tampered with. My Mom did the same thing to my toys and I never noticed.

Basically, my parents had to constantly switch things up and break him of any weird patterns as soon as they happened to get him used to change. It's much easier to deal with a temper tantrum toddler than an adult. He still has some issues, but no where as severe as some of his peers or as a kid.

One a side note, most of his peers in the special ed class had divorced parents due to the absolute stress of raising a kid like this. It's farking difficult and I practically raised my other 2 brothers because my parents had to be focused on him 24/7.
 
2013-11-25 10:51:33 PM  

cptjeff: It's pretty much impossible to involuntarily commit somebody these days. Very smart reform, that one. Instead of ending abuses at mental hospitals, we just closed the mental hospitals and dumped everyone in them back into society. Brilliant plan, that


Just remember it was all done in the name of being more humanitarian. We lost economies of scales in the interest of putting the mentally ill close to the communities. Since economies of scale were the only that allowed society to afford for their care the result was that that they got a little to close to their communities by becoming a massive influx of homeless people without proper food, medication, shelter or dignity. But hey, they can proclaim to the world whatever they want from their street corner cardboard signs....
 
2013-11-25 11:00:02 PM  

MFAWG: Of, even. I would not Wayne LaPierre.


You NEVER go Full Wayne LaPierre.
 
2013-11-25 11:00:45 PM  

gerbilpox: Dingleberry Dickwad: gerbilpox: Pumpernickel bread: Just noticed he used a .223 Bushmaster.  Same gun the D.C. snipers used.

Which, of course, they identified as an AR-15.

[i.imgur.com image 671x519]

I don't get it. I mean I get the joke of the picture where everything on the AR-15 is described in a hugely exaggerated manner, but identifying a .223 Bushmaster as an AR-15 variant is correct.

"Variant" being the key word They leave out.

OCD? No, why do you ask?


Even that doesn't really make much sense. Everything out there in the civilian world in regards to the AR-15 is a variant. You'd be extremely hard pressed to find an AR that's completely stock /baseline with the normal handgrips, carrying handle, sights and so forth these days. It's a lot simpler to just say AR-15.
 
2013-11-25 11:01:00 PM  

onyxruby: cptjeff: It's pretty much impossible to involuntarily commit somebody these days. Very smart reform, that one. Instead of ending abuses at mental hospitals, we just closed the mental hospitals and dumped everyone in them back into society. Brilliant plan, that

Just remember it was all done in the name of being more humanitarian. We lost economies of scales in the interest of putting the mentally ill close to the communities. Since economies of scale were the only that allowed society to afford for their care the result was that that they got a little to close to their communities by becoming a massive influx of homeless people without proper food, medication, shelter or dignity. But hey, they can proclaim to the world whatever they want from their street corner cardboard signs....


Read "My Brother Ron", it gives a pretty good description of what happened.

It isn't a democrat/republican thing. It was a mix of:

1) "These new drugs will CURE ALL THE MENTAL ILLNESS! No need to institutionalization!"
2) Horrific expose of institutions turned the public against them
3) Legal cases in the 60's and 70's that slowly chipped away the ability to commit anyone, ever
4) The above reasons giving politicians the excuse to cut public funding for mental illness

It's why we have the homeless problem we have today. I hope these cases will make it a bit easier to commit someone, but I doubt that's going to happen.
 
2013-11-25 11:03:59 PM  

shortymac: My brother has Asperger's, we're lucky that he didn't have too many issues with food. Basically, I found that (based on his peers in special ed class) it was either: "EAT ALL THE THINGS" or eat an extremely limited diet. Basically no one had a healthy "eat most food, but hates one or two things" diet.

However, the only "cure" for this is to slowly expose yourself to more and more foods, your body will adjust to the taste.

However, even from toddlerhood my brother had a lot of repetitive behavior/OCD issues. For example, he refused to have anything on my parent's coffee table. My Mom ended up removing coffee tables from the house until he was in his teens.

He also would play with his little hammer and block set, but he would ALWAYS hit the blocks in the same pattern. My Aunt gave him a starter set of hot wheels when he was 3 that he never played with, he set them up on his dresser in the same order as they where arranged in the package. My Mom would switch around 2 of them and he would know as soon as he walked in his bedroom that they had been tampered with. My Mom did the same thing to my toys and I never noticed.

Basically, my parents had to constantly switch things up and break him of any weird patterns as soon as they happened to get him used to change. It's much easier to deal with a temper tantrum toddler than an adult. He still has some issues, but no where as severe as some of his peers or as a kid.

One a side note, most of his peers in the special ed class had divorced parents due to the absolute stress of raising a kid like this. It's farking difficult and I practically raised my other 2 brothers because my parents had to be focused on him 24/7.


Way more people than we know deal with mental illness in our families. It can be overwhelming.  As an agnostic I say God bless you, on the off chance there is a God.
 
2013-11-25 11:10:23 PM  

corq: For those who didn't read the PDF (CNN glossed over the games listing):

Numerous video games were located in the basement computer/gaming area. The list of video
games includes, but is not limited to:

-"Grand Theft Auto"
-"Shin Megami Tensei"
-"Dynasty Warriors"
-"Vice City"
-"Team Fortress"
-"Doom"
-"Left for Dead"
-"Metal Gear Solid"
-"Dead Rising"
-"Half Life"
-"Battlefield"
-"Call of Duty"


Which SMT?


theguyyousaw: We love katamari...

/naana nanana na Katamari Damacy..


I love that game so much!   So much fun with a 360 controller on PCSX2.
 
2013-11-25 11:10:40 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: gerbilpox: Dingleberry Dickwad: gerbilpox: Pumpernickel bread: Just noticed he used a .223 Bushmaster.  Same gun the D.C. snipers used.

Which, of course, they identified as an AR-15.

[i.imgur.com image 671x519]

I don't get it. I mean I get the joke of the picture where everything on the AR-15 is described in a hugely exaggerated manner, but identifying a .223 Bushmaster as an AR-15 variant is correct.

"Variant" being the key word They leave out.

OCD? No, why do you ask?

Even that doesn't really make much sense. Everything out there in the civilian world in regards to the AR-15 is a variant. You'd be extremely hard pressed to find an AR that's completely stock /baseline with the normal handgrips, carrying handle, sights and so forth these days. It's a lot simpler to just say AR-15.


AR-15 is a registered trademark of Colt. It's got nothing to do with a particular set of features and everything to do with the fact that all the rifles based on that design built by other companies aren't legally allowed to call them AR-15s. Of course dropped their use of the name in 1994 when they were specified by name under the assault weapons ban.
 
2013-11-25 11:16:12 PM  

shortymac: Basically, my parents had to constantly switch things up and break him of any weird patterns as soon as they happened to get him used to change. It's much easier to deal with a temper tantrum toddler than an adult. He still has some issues, but no where as severe as some of his peers or as a kid.

One a side note, most of his peers in the special ed class had divorced parents due to the absolute stress of raising a kid like this. It's farking difficult and I practically raised my other 2 brothers because my parents had to be focused on him 24/7.


In the family of the guy I mentioned above, the parents divorced, but it was because of the absolute stress of the other kid, the daughter, who is now 30, being a farking sociopath. (Not being facetious. She is the anti-Christ.) She absolutely tortured and humiliated her brother growing up for the behaviors that now seem clearly explained by Asperger's. I wish I knew how to help the guy, because he's 25 and really seems to be having trouble finding his way. (He is unwilling to talk to a professional, and his father, who was somewhat abusive himself and pulled the son out of counseling as a teenager just to spite his ex-wife, doesn't seem to care.)

I say this to emphasize that you sound like a good brother and your parents sound like good people who tried hard for their kids. That's very cool, and your brother is lucky to have you guys. I never realized when I was growing up how good I had it, just not to have any major medical/psychological issues and to have a decent man who cared about me for a father.
 
2013-11-25 11:24:58 PM  

optikeye: HawgWild: Pacman?

If video games influenced kids. People that grew up in the 80's playing pacman would have spent the 90's in neon lit darken rooms, dancing around to techno music and munching on magic power pills........oh crap.


Also, I don't swallow balls for a quarter.....I do need about tree fiddy though.
 
2013-11-25 11:26:13 PM  

freewill: talkertopc: freewill: Watubi: Some adults with Asperger. I only insist that the meat is nearest me. I prefer my potatoes to the left of of the other veggies but I won't re-arrange them if they're not.

I was being a bit facetious, but that actually sounds more like what I'd assume to be a trivial, casual OCD behavior. Is something like that really considered indicative of Asperger's?


Only that: No.
I had started writing a more comprehensive answer but I'm on an old IPOD Touch that make it difficult to post anything but short answers.
 
2013-11-25 11:28:35 PM  
autism and narcissism would be a crazy mix.  I'm scared to say I saw a lot of myself in that story.  I have no thoughts of violence but if you threw in severe mental illness and some abuse along with the apparent availability of weapons it's a bad idea, in retrospect.  My own personal theory is that she took some stand on some issue, perhaps a punishment or ending some part of his isolation that upset him.  Spare a moment to think of the survivors.
 
2013-11-25 11:32:13 PM  
FTFA--"He attended parties, enjoyed music and played the saxophone."

That settles it. No more attending parties, enjoying music, or playing the saxophone.
 
2013-11-25 11:34:15 PM  
Picture shows Mario Party for the N64. I own and play those regularly. Someone call the FBI and tell them I'm a high risk suspect.
 
2013-11-25 11:38:16 PM  
If I had to play that much DDR, I'd probably become homicidal too. 

/now has awful europop playing in my head.
//MAKE IT STOP!
///OMFG SCREW YOUR LITTLE BUTTERFLY!
////AAAAAAHHHH!
 
2013-11-25 11:38:18 PM  
Ooh, I know, I know! It was NetHack, wasn't it!

/didn't RTFA
//or the thread
 
2013-11-25 11:38:51 PM  

gerbilpox: Pumpernickel bread: Just noticed he used a .223 Bushmaster.  Same gun the D.C. snipers used.

Which, of course, they identified as an AR-15.


It is an AR-15.

Bushmaster's model number is XM-15, but every AR manufacturer has their own numbers.
 
2013-11-25 11:39:42 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-11-25 11:40:57 PM  
While I don't understand how it could possibly lead to that, Minecraft is the only game of which I am aware, so that's my guess.
 
2013-11-25 11:42:19 PM  
I was going to say either Super Mario Bros or Donkey Kong Country. But maybe those are a bit dated.

/carbon-dated
 
2013-11-25 11:43:28 PM  

JesseL: Dingleberry Dickwad: gerbilpox: Dingleberry Dickwad: gerbilpox: Pumpernickel bread: Just noticed he used a .223 Bushmaster.  Same gun the D.C. snipers used.

Which, of course, they identified as an AR-15.

[i.imgur.com image 671x519]

I don't get it. I mean I get the joke of the picture where everything on the AR-15 is described in a hugely exaggerated manner, but identifying a .223 Bushmaster as an AR-15 variant is correct.

"Variant" being the key word They leave out.

OCD? No, why do you ask?

Even that doesn't really make much sense. Everything out there in the civilian world in regards to the AR-15 is a variant. You'd be extremely hard pressed to find an AR that's completely stock /baseline with the normal handgrips, carrying handle, sights and so forth these days. It's a lot simpler to just say AR-15.

AR-15 is a registered trademark of Colt. It's got nothing to do with a particular set of features and everything to do with the fact that all the rifles based on that design built by other companies aren't legally allowed to call them AR-15s. Of course dropped their use of the name in 1994 when they were specified by name under the assault weapons ban.


Huh, I actually didn't know that. Thanks for the info, I was under the impression that a straight AR was stock and that variants were just all the extra crap so many people throw on them.

Guess you do learn something new everyday.
 
2013-11-25 11:49:47 PM  
It's obvious:
i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-25 11:52:20 PM  

Godscrack: [imageshack.us image 612x765]

Also discovered as his laptop wallpaper.


Love his camel toe. Well, not like that.

Stop looking at me that way!
 
2013-11-25 11:53:56 PM  
I remember seeing a documentary about him.

http://drafthousefilms.com/film/the-fp
 
2013-11-25 11:54:49 PM  

Peki: freewill: Watubi: "The shooter was particular about the food that he ate and its arrangement on a plate in relation to other foods on the plate"

Oh crap, that sounds just like my 3 year old

Also, every adult with Asperger's ever.

So. . . it's not normal to make sure that the juice from the steak doesn't invade your mashed potatoes, or that you like the little plates with all the different divisions on them?

/"I'm a military man, I like a military meal"


Cool down, LL Cool J.

/"Toys" movie?
// Another cautionary tale of lousy estate planning
 
2013-11-25 11:56:45 PM  
freewill:Asperger's stories

Yeesh. Not really me.
With the food thing: it's not about order or what kind of food. It has to do more with textures, tastes, and temperatures. For example, soggy bread on a sandwich? Forget it. Couldn't stomach it if I tried. Same with off temperature foods; if it's supposed to be that way, I need to know or I have issues. I grabbed cold corn once when I thought it was warm and spit all of it right back out; I'm sorry but temperature changes texture! Cold corn might as well be a pepper compared to warm corn. I also have some tastes that I'm supersensitive to, like bananas or fake grape flavor (grapes are okay, grape juice is teh debil). I've gotten better about the mixing thing though, but I tend to draw lines at thin liquids while thick sauces are awesome. I think it has more to do with my family history of synesthesia than autism, though I do have several behaviors that fit the bill.

I do like socializing with people on the spectrum though. They have an honesty about social interaction that I found easier to deal with for awhile that normal adults.

However, I'm not sure being on the spectrum was really Lanza's driving issue, and could possibly confuse people by associating the spectrum in such a negative way. I find it far more likely he spent years planning things out in response to a very severe bout of bullying, though the autism would most certainly have been a factor in causing Lanza to be an easy target.

/speculation of course, just talking from my experience
 
2013-11-25 11:56:49 PM  
I had a feeling smitty was pulling my chain, but I was thinking Tetris or something.  DDR, wow.
 
2013-11-25 11:57:55 PM  
076dd0a50e0c1255009e-bd4b8aabaca29897bc751dfaf75b290c.r40.cf1.rackcdn.com

"Whateva happened to crazy?"
 
2013-11-25 11:59:31 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: The crazy part is probably that he didn't play with a dance mat, he used a normal controller.


I LOL'd
 
2013-11-26 12:02:04 AM  
So I was right, he was crazy.  I'm a genius.
 
2013-11-26 12:02:29 AM  
Lee Carvallos Putting Challenge?

/ Power Drive!
 
2013-11-26 12:10:24 AM  

theguyyousaw: JesusJuice: We Love Katamari?

How!?


Over my years on Fark (as well as various other forum-like places, but most prevalently on Fark), I've come to the conclusion that there are only about 20 'types' of people in the entire world, and they can be counted in any Fark thread that goes beyond 150, often simul-posting. It's like they've got a shared consciousness or something, I swear.

/I'm the one who bypasses all relevance in a thread to comment on something like simul-posting

//Naaaaa na na NA na na nananana nana naaaaa

///also was NOT expecting that game, though I wonder about the person who was...
 
2013-11-26 12:17:09 AM  

Lord Howard Hurtz: /"Toys" movie?
// Another cautionary tale of lousy estate planning


I was wondering how obscure that would be on Fark. ;)
 
2013-11-26 12:19:27 AM  

corq: For those who didn't read the PDF (CNN glossed over the games listing):

Numerous video games were located in the basement computer/gaming area. The list of video
games includes, but is not limited to:

...
-"Left for Dead"

...

This game does not even exist.
The game is "Left 4 Dead."
Is it too much to ask that someone actually checks this stuff out.
 
2013-11-26 12:19:34 AM  

safeforwork: Over my years on Fark (as well as various other forum-like places, but most prevalently on Fark), I've come to the conclusion that there are only about 20 'types' of people in the entire world, and they can be counted in any Fark thread that goes beyond 150, often simul-posting. It's like they've got a shared consciousness or something, I swear.


You wouldn't be talking about something like this would you?

/I've been in chatrooms since the mid-90s. Those "types" have been around forever
 
Rat
2013-11-26 12:20:21 AM  
i235.photobucket.com

©
 
2013-11-26 12:20:24 AM  

JesseL: Dingleberry Dickwad: gerbilpox: Dingleberry Dickwad: gerbilpox: Pumpernickel bread: Just noticed he used a .223 Bushmaster.  Same gun the D.C. snipers used.

Which, of course, they identified as an AR-15.

[i.imgur.com image 671x519]

I don't get it. I mean I get the joke of the picture where everything on the AR-15 is described in a hugely exaggerated manner, but identifying a .223 Bushmaster as an AR-15 variant is correct.

"Variant" being the key word They leave out.

OCD? No, why do you ask?

Even that doesn't really make much sense. Everything out there in the civilian world in regards to the AR-15 is a variant. You'd be extremely hard pressed to find an AR that's completely stock /baseline with the normal handgrips, carrying handle, sights and so forth these days. It's a lot simpler to just say AR-15.

AR-15 is a registered trademark of Colt. It's got nothing to do with a particular set of features and everything to do with the fact that all the rifles based on that design built by other companies aren't legally allowed to call them AR-15s. Of course dropped their use of the name in 1994 when they were specified by name under the assault weapons ban.


We don't call Benelli M4s Super 90s because M4 normally refers to a SBR version of the M16, however. It's an AR-15. If it has the inline recoil buffer, aluminum receiver, charging handle, etc. it's a damn AR-15. Trademark or no. Unless we're talking radical modifications like getting rid of the inline recoil buffer in favor of a spring system above the bolt carrier or something like that it's a damn AR-15.

I may be the one willing to whack people's peepees over ambiguity, but this is not one of those fights. Drop it.
 
2013-11-26 12:21:10 AM  
Is it just me or does this kid really just freak me out? maybe he just really mad even fat hookers wouldn't fark him, or maybe he really did go blind jerking off to porn - his eyes are just creepy.
media.salon.com
 
2013-11-26 12:27:41 AM  

Fissile:
Yup.  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513067/Sandy-Hook-prosecutor s -report-released-today-details.html
Check out the picture of his bedroom
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x418]


Just look at that TV. No wonder he snapped.

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2013-11-26 12:29:56 AM  
Galaga?
 
2013-11-26 12:35:25 AM  

HighlanderRPI: Pictures from the Lanza Collection

[www.trbimg.com image 500x332]

[www.trbimg.com image 500x332]

N64 & Dreamcast - clearly there were signs


And what's actually in one of the consoles? Paper Mario.
 
2013-11-26 12:36:20 AM  
Barbie's Riding Adventure?
 
2013-11-26 12:40:51 AM  

Peki: safeforwork: Over my years on Fark (as well as various other forum-like places, but most prevalently on Fark), I've come to the conclusion that there are only about 20 'types' of people in the entire world, and they can be counted in any Fark thread that goes beyond 150, often simul-posting. It's like they've got a shared consciousness or something, I swear.

You wouldn't be talking about something like this would you?

/I've been in chatrooms since the mid-90s. Those "types" have been around forever


Oh, no. I mean, yes - some of those types abound... but I don't just mean trolls, antagonists, etc. I mean like, sudden simulposts of positive things, negative things, some random picture that has really *nothing* to do with the subject except in some obscure way 10 people somehow thought of at *exactly* the same moment, etc. Memes, in a way... but different? (I MAY actually just be talking about memes here. Like Fark is just a particularly good micro ecosystem for how memes form)
 
2013-11-26 12:41:28 AM  

tetsoushima: I live one town over from Newtown and I've "danced" on the DDR machine at the movie theater Adam Lanza used to frequent.  There are other things that we had in common just by nature of living in such close proximity, but that is by far the weirdest.


So you plan to commit an act of mass violence?!

/joking
//obviously?
 
2013-11-26 12:41:47 AM  

shortymac: Another one for the old: "mental illness causes violent behavior. Not video games".

I wonder if his mom was going to commit him...


It's not that easy to commit someone these days. They can hold someone for 72 hours if they think they are a danger, but someone with a mental disorder is more likely to end up in prison than in a mental institution. Many facilities were closed down back in the 80's and the people in them turned out into the streets to get along the best they could.
 
2013-11-26 12:42:04 AM  
Okay, these investigators seem to be dumbasses.

A batshiat dude goes on a shooting spree and the investigators inventory the exact video games, pictures, newspaper clippings and birthday cards in the house, but not the weapons or how the weapons were being secured in the home?

Was there a gun safe? Were weapons scattered around willy nilly? If there was a safe, was it found open or closed? If opened, was it opened normally or cracked into?  These seem like more important questions to answer rather than what video games the dude played. It would be like finding out what sort of fuel receipts were in a car involved in hit and run accident.
 
2013-11-26 12:45:29 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2013-11-26 12:54:39 AM  

Revmachine21: Okay, these investigators seem to be dumbasses.

A batshiat dude goes on a shooting spree and the investigators inventory the exact video games, pictures, newspaper clippings and birthday cards in the house, but not the weapons or how the weapons were being secured in the home?

Was there a gun safe? Were weapons scattered around willy nilly? If there was a safe, was it found open or closed? If opened, was it opened normally or cracked into?  These seem like more important questions to answer rather than what video games the dude played. It would be like finding out what sort of fuel receipts were in a car involved in hit and run accident.


Haven't you learned that here in America during these difficult incidents we have to be mindful of the guns' feelings?
 
Rat
2013-11-26 01:04:06 AM  

Darth Macho: Revmachine21: Okay, these investigators seem to be dumbasses.

A batshiat dude goes on a shooting spree and the investigators inventory the exact video games, pictures, newspaper clippings and birthday cards in the house, but not the weapons or how the weapons were being secured in the home?

Was there a gun safe? Were weapons scattered around willy nilly? If there was a safe, was it found open or closed? If opened, was it opened normally or cracked into?  These seem like more important questions to answer rather than what video games the dude played. It would be like finding out what sort of fuel receipts were in a car involved in hit and run accident.

Haven't you learned that here in America during these difficult incidents we have to be mindful of the guns' feelings?


I dunno Macho man, in the article linked earlier http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513067/Sandy-Hook-prosecutor s -report-released- today-details.html  its pretty clear that there were two separate gun cabinets.  Not safes.  They didn't appear jimmied, probably opened with mommy's key.  Not the best storage choice, as it turns out.

©
 
Rat
2013-11-26 01:06:32 AM  
Or maybe just one safe with bad lighting.  And really tacky furniture.

©
 
2013-11-26 01:07:39 AM  

TommyDeuce: QIx?

Joust?

Tempest?


Rygar?
 
2013-11-26 01:17:34 AM  
The "video" of my day was TV and President Johnson telling us it was OK to burn women and kids houses and villages. The "game" was an Erector set helicopter and little green "army men".
To date I ain't killed nobody.
 
2013-11-26 01:20:27 AM  

safeforwork: Peki: safeforwork: Over my years on Fark (as well as various other forum-like places, but most prevalently on Fark), I've come to the conclusion that there are only about 20 'types' of people in the entire world, and they can be counted in any Fark thread that goes beyond 150, often simul-posting. It's like they've got a shared consciousness or something, I swear.

You wouldn't be talking about something like this would you?

/I've been in chatrooms since the mid-90s. Those "types" have been around forever

Oh, no. I mean, yes - some of those types abound... but I don't just mean trolls, antagonists, etc. I mean like, sudden simulposts of positive things, negative things, some random picture that has really *nothing* to do with the subject except in some obscure way 10 people somehow thought of at *exactly* the same moment, etc. Memes, in a way... but different? (I MAY actually just be talking about memes here. Like Fark is just a particularly good micro ecosystem for how memes form)


Ah, okay. No, what you're talking about is a little like collective consciousness, but it has to do more with social/cultural conditioning. For example, if everyone on Fark has seen the show Firefly, and someone on the Geek tab posts some article about the insect fireflies, you think Mal Reynolds wouldn't be somewhere in the first five posts? It doesn't necessarily mean anything that if I say cat everyone in the room pictures a housecat, or that I can reasonably predict a Mal appearance in an insect thread. More interesting are the people who think of lions or dogs or  Cats the musical.

Even better is if the same people always hooked up. For instance, it means nothing if you and I do a simulpost on THIS thread, if it's not repeated. Have us do it several times over the course of several threads and days/weeks? Now you've got a basis for a stronger hypothesis about types and thought processing among groups. For now you're just looking at association among people with similar interests. Not surprising we come out with the same crap sometimes.
 
2013-11-26 01:22:11 AM  

CoysOdie: The "video" of my day was TV and President Johnson telling us it was OK to burn women and kids houses and villages. The "game" was an Erector set helicopter and little green "army men".
To date I ain't killed nobody.


Nancy Lanza had your same childhood.
 
2013-11-26 01:22:45 AM  
img.fark.net
It was obviously the vain attempts to stop ceiling cat from watching him masturbate that drove him over the edge.
 
2013-11-26 01:26:54 AM  

cptjeff: It's pretty much impossible to involuntarily commit somebody these days.


Mental hospitals are SOCIALIST.  Start down that slippery slope and the next thing you know you're standing in line for toilet paper and boiling shoe leather.
 
2013-11-26 01:36:11 AM  
Well, at least we have a satisfactory answer to 'how could this happen' now: A somewhat crazy prepper and gun-nut mom used the shooting range to bond with her sociopathic and otherwise lunatic offspring, thus combining his total lack of emotion and empathy and his fascination with spree killers with a solid background in firearm training. It's kind of like the perfect storm of irresponsibility and psychosis.

Now, a quick public service announcement for idiots:
If you know someone (perhaps your child) who lacks empathy and is otherwise unhinged, do not:
A. Give them access to your firearms.
B. Train them in advanced shooting techniques.
C. Spend your whole life telling them that the world's going to end.
 
2013-11-26 01:51:55 AM  
Dance Dance Revolution, huh?  This was going to be my guess...
img.fark.net
 
2013-11-26 02:20:41 AM  

HighlanderRPI: Pictures from the Lanza Collection

[www.trbimg.com image 500x332]

[www.trbimg.com image 500x332]

N64 & Dreamcast - clearly there were signs


th08.deviantart.net th05.deviantart.net

Pft... Amateur...
 
2013-11-26 02:34:01 AM  
img.fark.net
Approves of this list!
 
2013-11-26 02:45:30 AM  

Jesus Farking Christ: Jesus, DDR?  I figured WoW or GTA, but DDR?

That guy must have been batshiat bag of cats crazy.  The kind of crazy where you wear the skins of dead children as a fashion statement.


(Which is so 2003, by the way)
 
2013-11-26 03:10:20 AM  

Rat: Darth Macho: Revmachine21: Okay, these investigators seem to be dumbasses.

A batshiat dude goes on a shooting spree and the investigators inventory the exact video games, pictures, newspaper clippings and birthday cards in the house, but not the weapons or how the weapons were being secured in the home?

Was there a gun safe? Were weapons scattered around willy nilly? If there was a safe, was it found open or closed? If opened, was it opened normally or cracked into?  These seem like more important questions to answer rather than what video games the dude played. It would be like finding out what sort of fuel receipts were in a car involved in hit and run accident.

Haven't you learned that here in America during these difficult incidents we have to be mindful of the guns' feelings?

I dunno Macho man, in the article linked earlier http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513067/Sandy-Hook-prosecutor s -report-released- today-details.html  its pretty clear that there were two separate gun cabinets.  Not safes.  They didn't appear jimmied, probably opened with mommy's key.  Not the best storage choice, as it turns out.

©


I saw the daily mail article but as far as I could find in the official PDF from the prosecutor, zero mention of the phrase "gun safe" or the word "safe" in the context of a locked cabinet.

It's such a huge oversight in an official report about a tragedy, I wonder what the fark they were smoking during the investigation and writing of the report.
 
2013-11-26 03:14:09 AM  
The correct answer is Fallout 3 obv
 
2013-11-26 03:26:18 AM  

People_are_Idiots: HighlanderRPI: Pictures from the Lanza Collection

[www.trbimg.com image 500x332]

[www.trbimg.com image 500x332]

N64 & Dreamcast - clearly there were signs

[th08.deviantart.net image 850x567] [th05.deviantart.net image 731x1094]

Pft... Amateur...


You go through a lot of lotion and tissues, don't you? Hell with all of that lotion you have to buy you can't afford a gun.
 
2013-11-26 03:28:54 AM  
Footnote: I told my mom tonight about the DDR link.

Her response: "BWAHAHAHAHAHA....I'm sorry, I shouldn't laugh."
 
2013-11-26 04:07:05 AM  

wingnutx: gerbilpox: Pumpernickel bread: Just noticed he used a .223 Bushmaster.  Same gun the D.C. snipers used.

Which, of course, they identified as an AR-15.

It is an AR-15.

Bushmaster's model number is XM-15, but every AR manufacturer has their own numbers.


AR-15 is a registered trademark of Colt, which it got when it bought the design from ArmaLite. There is no other "AR-15". Think of it like Coke. Pepsi and other types of cola could be called "variants," but if they called themselves Coke they would be sued.

"AR" is not even a gun type. (Some people think it stands for "automatic rifle," but it does not.) It's a brand designation used by Armalite, which includes the AR-24 handgun and the .50-cal AR50A1.

Granted, some people incorrectly use "AR-15" as a generic term, but some of the media have gone farther by calling any long gun that. For example, CNN reported that the Navy Yard shooter used an "AR-15 shotgun."

I should have posted the "Journalist's Guide to Firearms" below, just replacing "AK-47" with "AR-15," but I decided to go for something different for variety's sake. It was a poor choice, since exaggerating about AR-15 parts is not the same as confusing brands names. Mea culpa.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-26 04:49:35 AM  
My bf's response to this article: Well, maybe he got mad that the movie theater took the DDR machine away.
/facepalm
 
2013-11-26 04:56:06 AM  
Way to deflect from the real issue subby. Nice Jorb.

Guns dont kill people.
Easy access to them does.
 
2013-11-26 06:09:11 AM  
I'm comforted by the fact I had no idea it would have been DDR....
 
2013-11-26 06:17:26 AM  
Went crazy because he couldn't get an A on Max 300
 
2013-11-26 06:22:28 AM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Picture shows Mario Party for the N64. I own and play those regularly. Someone call the FBI and tell them I'm a high risk suspect.


Hmm...why would a loner have Mario Party?!!1!!

It's a conspiracy!!
 
2013-11-26 06:34:02 AM  

gerbilpox: AR-15 is a registered trademark of Colt, which it got when it bought the design from ArmaLite. There is no other "AR-15". Think of it like Coke. Pepsi and other types of cola could be called "variants," but if they called themselves Coke they would be sued.



Do you search for something or Google for it?  Do you use a tissue or Kleenex?  Do you use a vacuum cleaner or a Hoover?  Sticky tape or Sellotape?

Its one of those things where people "in the know" are technically correct (which is the best sort of correct).  However, the lay person doesn't give a crap. If it looks like a duck and goes bang like a duck, then they'll probably think it's a duck armed with an AR-15.
 
2013-11-26 06:47:41 AM  

shortymac: freewill: Peki: freewill: Watubi: "The shooter was particular about the food that he ate and its arrangement on a plate in relation to other foods on the plate"

Oh crap, that sounds just like my 3 year old

Also, every adult with Asperger's ever.

So. . . it's not normal to make sure that the juice from the steak doesn't invade your mashed potatoes, or that you like the little plates with all the different divisions on them?

The first strong warning sign I got that a friend's adult son probably had undiagnosed Asperger's came at a Thai restaurant. He'd been acting belligerent when we told him where we were going. He usually insisted on pizza or hamburgers in almost all cases, which I had taken to be some intense immaturity, but I'd never really thought there was anything "wrong".

When we got there, he was sitting there angry, and finally said he was not going to order anything because he "can't eat any of this stuff". I asked him what he meant, they were all common ingredients, and he went through a laundry list of things he "doesn't eat": eggs, broccoli, peanuts, green peppers, rice, etc. It was like Bubba on Forrest Gump talking about shrimp, except it was every food. I managed to talk him into trying a chicken satay appetizer because it was just chicken breast on a stick, and he grumbled for several minutes about it coming with sauce before he decided he could eat that.

It was only later that day that I realized he had almost every symptom of Asperger's, and that this was probably why he acted so suspicious when I suggested a wedge salad at another restaurant in the past. (Almost in a panic, "WHAT IS IT?" "It's a wedge of iceberg lettuce with bacon and blue cheese dressing." "IS THAT ALL?" as if I might be forgetting to mention the cyanide.)

As I understand it, people with Asperger's are often very dependent on routine and have an extremely linear way of thinking that makes it difficult for them to accept new, different ideas once they get an idea in place. ...


Just raising a normal kid is a metric farkton of work; good for them, and good for you for stepping up to the plate.

As a lazy, lazy man, I salute you, good sir.
 
2013-11-26 07:11:08 AM  
He was a crazy tard who should have been medicated or locked up. Sad that he killed kids before ending his invalid life. But, goddamnit, why the hell didn't he get any help?
 
2013-11-26 07:46:40 AM  

Gyrfalcon: I guess that throws the "video games made him do it" theory into a cocked hat.


Pretty sure that hat was already cocked.

...wait.
 
2013-11-26 07:49:00 AM  

Watubi: "The shooter was particular about the food that he ate and its arrangement on a plate in relation to other foods on the plate"

Oh crap, that sounds just like my 3 year old


Maybe you should get a few metal milatary surplus trays
 
2013-11-26 08:14:27 AM  

Peki: With the food thing: it's not about order or what kind of food. It has to do more with textures, tastes, and temperatures. For example, soggy bread on a sandwich? Forget it. Couldn't stomach it if I tried. Same with off temperature foods; if it's supposed to be that way, I need to know or I have issues. I grabbed cold corn once when I thought it was warm and spit all of it right back out; I'm sorry but temperature changes texture! Cold corn might as well be a pepper compared to warm corn. I also have some tastes that I'm supersensitive to, like bananas or fake grape flavor (grapes are okay, grape juice is teh debil). I've gotten better about the mixing thing though, but I tend to draw lines at thin liquids while thick sauces are awesome. I think it has more to do with my family history of synesthesia than autism, though I do have several behaviors that fit the bill.


This is interesting to me. It sounds like a different group of symptoms (the texture/temperature/taste thing) than the ones we noticed. (As another example, we were once having spaghetti and meatballs, and he took the top of the parmesan cheese jar and started pouring about a cup of cheese into it, then opened a pat of butter. His mother briefly pointed out to him that there is no butter in that dish, and he got loud for a second and said "YES, THERE IS. That's what keeps the noodles from sticking together." I pointed out that she was right, and he just mumbled "uh-huh" as he put butter in it. Turns out, his family makes spaghetti without tomato sauce, just butter and cheese, and that's "spaghetti" to him, it was impossible that spaghetti is served other ways.)

We've never really had a conversation with him about synesthesia/sensory issues, mainly because neither of us are sure how to raise the topic or if he even realizes that these behaviors might seem unusual to others.

However, I'm not sure being on the spectrum was really Lanza's driving issue, and could possibly confuse people by associating the spectrum in such a negative way. I find it far more likely he spent years planning things out in response to a very severe bout of bullying, though the autism would most certainly have been a factor in causing Lanza to be an easy target.

Oh, I agree completely. My (also speculative) thought is that it might have indirectly led to some anger, avoidant behaviors, social anxiety, etc., that got him to that mental state and made him feel like life was impossible. He was apparently basically barricaded into his room for extended periods.

The thing is that he obviously also had some other (antisocial? psychopathic? psychotic?) tendencies unrelated to Asperger's that predisposed him to violent fantasies and ideas in the first place. "I have bad experiences when I try to socialize so I don't like people and don't want to talk to anyone, I just want to stay in my room forever and play video games", is one thought, easily explained by some symptoms of Asperger's. "I want to respond to this feeling by killing my mother and a large group of children" is another thought entirely, one which is not and should not be.

I'm still unclear on why on Earth the mother thought it was a good idea to give a gun to someone who needed so much supervision that she couldn't work. Regardless of what specific conditions he may have had, "can't be left alone in the house" should equal "can't have a gun".
 
2013-11-26 08:18:39 AM  

brantgoose: Minecraft? It's a killer. I just learned that from South Park, my sole source of information on what the kids are into when they are not on my lawn.


So you have kids walking in your betrayal garden too?
 
2013-11-26 08:36:13 AM  
So basically, there were no good predictors. Even his mental illnesses were not of the dangerous sort.

Color me totally unsurprised. But the traumatized-by-proxy are really going to hate this: it puts a serious crimp in their Never Again plans.
 
2013-11-26 08:45:06 AM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Picture shows Mario Party for the N64. I own and play those regularly. Someone call the FBI and tell them I'm a high risk suspect.


We already know.
 
2013-11-26 08:46:14 AM  

Mitrovarr: Well, at least we have a satisfactory answer to 'how could this happen' now: A somewhat crazy prepper and gun-nut mom used the shooting range to bond with her sociopathic and otherwise lunatic offspring, thus combining his total lack of emotion and empathy and his fascination with spree killers with a solid background in firearm training. It's kind of like the perfect storm of irresponsibility and psychosis.

Now, a quick public service announcement for idiots:
If you know someone (perhaps your child) who lacks empathy and is otherwise unhinged, do not:
A. Give them access to your firearms.
B. Train them in advanced shooting techniques.
C. Spend your whole life telling them that the world's going to end.


This is the one (besides the whole, holy crap why would you give someone that crazy access to a bunch of guns thing) that I think should be getting more attention. This kid had severe problems dealing with the world, was autistic, possibly had some kind of sensory overload issues to the point that he holes up in his room and blocks the windows. The world itself is already pretty scary to him, and then you raise him to believe that the zombie apocalypse could be happening any day and he could get death paneled, that's got to up his stress levels a whole lot. How is he going to deal with end times when he can't deal with the way things are now? I'm sure his mom loved him and really believed what she believed, but that's got to be a bigger influence on his psychology and snappage than video games.
 
2013-11-26 08:52:27 AM  

Richard C Stanford: He was a crazy tard who should have been medicated or locked up. Sad that he killed kids before ending his invalid life. But, goddamnit, why the hell didn't he get any help?


Because we're too busy trying to legislate video games for kids and firearms for law abiding citizens to stop this behavior and that's exactly what will come of this report.
 
2013-11-26 09:14:24 AM  
See??? He had Aspergers. He had a disability and should be pitied, not despised.
 
2013-11-26 09:26:47 AM  

Sid_6.7: tetsoushima: I live one town over from Newtown and I've "danced" on the DDR machine at the movie theater Adam Lanza used to frequent.  There are other things that we had in common just by nature of living in such close proximity, but that is by far the weirdest.

So you plan to commit an act of mass violence?!

/joking
//obviously?


It's just strange that they would mention it.  The theater that they are talking about is a Loew's cineplex and it has 16 screens.  It is really the only place in the area to watch first-run movies.  It is highly probable that some of the kids who died had gone to this theater a few times and there is even an outside chance that maybe one or two of them played DDR on that same machine.  Is there a connection?  No.

The thought is just really strange.
 
2013-11-26 09:58:19 AM  
So can we have a serious discussion about mental illness in this country yet?
 
2013-11-26 09:58:22 AM  
I totally blame the mother. If she cared more about the son and less about what people would think, she would have had him living in a group home, medicated, in long-term therapy, and under structured supervision. But no, she ignored him for days on end, allowed him to become totally isolated in a bizarre fantasy world, catered to all of his whims and allowed him constant access to firearms.

Talk about total denial and a complete lack of responsibiity towards an obviously troubled child. Essentially, she abdicated her role as a parent.
 
2013-11-26 10:00:47 AM  

doubled99: See??? He had Aspergers. He had a disability and should be pitied, not despised.


I have Aspergers,  he should have received good mental help before it even got to this point.  but no, nobody in this country wants to even talk about the issue of mental illness.
 
2013-11-26 10:37:44 AM  

Warlordtrooper: doubled99: See??? He had Aspergers. He had a disability and should be pitied, not despised.

I have Aspergers,  he should have received good mental help before it even got to this point.  but no, nobody in this country wants to even talk about the issue of mental illness.


In your mind, what would constitute a "good conversation" about mental health issues?
 
2013-11-26 10:49:38 AM  
people who "lack empathy" should be eliminated from normal society, whatever the reason for it.
 
2013-11-26 11:05:10 AM  

doubled99: people who "lack empathy" should be eliminated from normal society, whatever the reason for it.


That's not very empathetic.

/off to the firing squad with you
 
2013-11-26 11:06:47 AM  
powet.tv

"Fark this, Imma go shoot up a school"
 
2013-11-26 11:25:31 AM  

freewill: We've never really had a conversation with him about synesthesia/sensory issues, mainly because neither of us are sure how to raise the topic or if he even realizes that these behaviors might seem unusual to others.

My mother has the number/color thing, so though the test with all the 5s and 8s is very useful. I don't have that, but I have very good pattern recognition, so I test like I have synesthesia, but the numbers aren't different colors for me. The best way I would suggest bringing it up is ask him to describe things. If he starts using the wrong adjectives (for example, the piano sounds purple, Wednesday is blue, etc), then you've got a pretty good basis for synesthesia. For me, I taste shapes (vinegar is a bouncing spike ball, crunchy peanut butter is rectangular, creamy peanut butter is oval). "Fake foods" that have a lot of filler end up tasting like the general shape and form of whatever food it's supposed to be, but I can tell it's just air and holes, like a whiffle ball. I spat out ice cream recently because the gum they added is just so. . . it's like trying to eat styrofoam.

You never realize a behavior is unusual until someone points it out to you.

freewill: I'm still unclear on why on Earth the mother thought it was a good idea to give a gun to someone who needed so much supervision that she couldn't work. Regardless of what specific conditions he may have had, "can't be left alone in the house" should equal "can't have a gun".


Yeah, I agree with you there. Definitely some parental dumbassery going on.
 
2013-11-26 11:29:50 AM  

People_are_Idiots: HighlanderRPI: Pictures from the Lanza Collection

[www.trbimg.com image 500x332]

[www.trbimg.com image 500x332]

N64 & Dreamcast - clearly there were signs

[th08.deviantart.net image 850x567] [th05.deviantart.net image 731x1094]

Pft... Amateur...


I bet that room smells really musky.
 
2013-11-26 11:30:00 AM  

ambercat: Mitrovarr: Well, at least we have a satisfactory answer to 'how could this happen' now: A somewhat crazy prepper and gun-nut mom used the shooting range to bond with her sociopathic and otherwise lunatic offspring, thus combining his total lack of emotion and empathy and his fascination with spree killers with a solid background in firearm training. It's kind of like the perfect storm of irresponsibility and psychosis.

Now, a quick public service announcement for idiots:
If you know someone (perhaps your child) who lacks empathy and is otherwise unhinged, do not:
A. Give them access to your firearms.
B. Train them in advanced shooting techniques.
C. Spend your whole life telling them that the world's going to end.

This is the one (besides the whole, holy crap why would you give someone that crazy access to a bunch of guns thing) that I think should be getting more attention. This kid had severe problems dealing with the world, was autistic, possibly had some kind of sensory overload issues to the point that he holes up in his room and blocks the windows. The world itself is already pretty scary to him, and then you raise him to believe that the zombie apocalypse could be happening any day and he could get death paneled, that's got to up his stress levels a whole lot. How is he going to deal with end times when he can't deal with the way things are now? I'm sure his mom loved him and really believed what she believed, but that's got to be a bigger influence on his psychology and snappage than video games.


I don't believe the whole "Mom is a nutty prepper who thought the world was going to end" theory was never proven beyond a few comments (supposedly) from her ex-sister-in-law. Google shows a flurry of articles soon after the tragedy but nothing from an official source supporting it (Books in her house, magazines, etc)

A lot of people blame the Mom and forget she was his first victim. She was also left alone to deal with a highly-dysfunctional child for over a decade by herself, Daddy and Big Bro checked out a long time ago. Even with her money she couldn't commit him or force him into therapy/medication. Many people with his condition end up on the streets because families can't deal with them.
 
2013-11-26 11:47:17 AM  

DominaNY: I totally blame the mother. If she cared more about the son and less about what people would think, she would have had him living in a group home, medicated, in long-term therapy, and under structured supervision. But no, she ignored him for days on end, allowed him to become totally isolated in a bizarre fantasy world, catered to all of his whims and allowed him constant access to firearms.

Talk about total denial and a complete lack of responsibiity towards an obviously troubled child. Essentially, she abdicated her role as a parent.


Yeah good luck with that, it's extremely difficult to force anyone into any treatment (medication or otherwise) against their will, even as a minor. It's a legal clusterfark of epic proportions and the laws are stacked against you.

Wonder why almost all the homeless are mentally ill? Yeah, many either leave themselves or get thrown out due to the absolute clusterfark of treatment laws.
 
2013-11-26 11:47:25 AM  

shortymac: A lot of people blame the Mom and forget she was his first victim.


Anytime there is a mass shooting, it's a societal failure. We're all to blame, because we weren't there to support her or him.

/I'm just okay with recognizing that, yeah, lady, buying him a gun was a bad idea
 
2013-11-26 11:52:10 AM  

Peki: freewill: Watubi: "The shooter was particular about the food that he ate and its arrangement on a plate in relation to other foods on the plate"

Oh crap, that sounds just like my 3 year old

Also, every adult with Asperger's ever.

So. . . it's not normal to make sure that the juice from the steak doesn't invade your mashed potatoes, or that you like the little plates with all the different divisions on them?

/"I'm a military man, I like a military meal"


I wouldn't go so far as divided plates, but I farkin' hate it when "liquidy" foods are just plopped on the plate with everything else to dissolve into a big, disgusting slurry...meat juices and such aren't an issue, but I don't need no got-damn green bean water soaking into my dinner roll...
 
2013-11-26 11:59:46 AM  

freewill: Peki: With the food thing: it's not about order or what kind of food. It has to do more with textures, tastes, and temperatures. For example, soggy bread on a sandwich? Forget it. Couldn't stomach it if I tried. Same with off temperature foods; if it's supposed to be that way, I need to know or I have issues. I grabbed cold corn once when I thought it was warm and spit all of it right back out; I'm sorry but temperature changes texture! Cold corn might as well be a pepper compared to warm corn. I also have some tastes that I'm supersensitive to, like bananas or fake grape flavor (grapes are okay, grape juice is teh debil). I've gotten better about the mixing thing though, but I tend to draw lines at thin liquids while thick sauces are awesome. I think it has more to do with my family history of synesthesia than autism, though I do have several behaviors that fit the bill.

This is interesting to me. It sounds like a different group of symptoms (the texture/temperature/taste thing) than the ones we noticed. (As another example, we were once having spaghetti and meatballs, and he took the top of the parmesan cheese jar and started pouring about a cup of cheese into it, then opened a pat of butter. His mother briefly pointed out to him that there is no butter in that dish, and he got loud for a second and said "YES, THERE IS. That's what keeps the noodles from sticking together." I pointed out that she was right, and he just mumbled "uh-huh" as he put butter in it. Turns out, his family makes spaghetti without tomato sauce, just butter and cheese, and that's "spaghetti" to him, it was impossible that spaghetti is served other ways.)

We've never really had a conversation with him about synesthesia/sensory issues, mainly because neither of us are sure how to raise the topic or if he even realizes that these behaviors might seem unusual to others.

However, I'm not sure being on the spectrum was really Lanza's driving issue, and could possibly confuse people by associati ...


Schizophrenia or Schizo-Affective disorders are sometimes co-morbid with autism (along with ADHD, Bipolar, and OCD).

It sounds like Adam might have only got a Autism diagnosis and due to his communication issues the Schizophrenia was not noticed until it was too late.

The whole "black bags over windows, tin foil over the vent" looks like paranoid schizophrenia to me.

/Worked at a mental health hospital for 4 years
 
2013-11-26 12:41:41 PM  
noyouare.lixlink.com
this game drove me over the edge i tell you!
 
2013-11-26 12:49:53 PM  

freewill: shortymac: Basically, my parents had to constantly switch things up and break him of any weird patterns as soon as they happened to get him used to change. It's much easier to deal with a temper tantrum toddler than an adult. He still has some issues, but no where as severe as some of his peers or as a kid.

One a side note, most of his peers in the special ed class had divorced parents due to the absolute stress of raising a kid like this. It's farking difficult and I practically raised my other 2 brothers because my parents had to be focused on him 24/7.

In the family of the guy I mentioned above, the parents divorced, but it was because of the absolute stress of the other kid, the daughter, who is now 30, being a farking sociopath. (Not being facetious. She is the anti-Christ.) She absolutely tortured and humiliated her brother growing up for the behaviors that now seem clearly explained by Asperger's. I wish I knew how to help the guy, because he's 25 and really seems to be having trouble finding his way. (He is unwilling to talk to a professional, and his father, who was somewhat abusive himself and pulled the son out of counseling as a teenager just to spite his ex-wife, doesn't seem to care.)

I say this to emphasize that you sound like a good brother and your parents sound like good people who tried hard for their kids. That's very cool, and your brother is lucky to have you guys. I never realized when I was growing up how good I had it, just not to have any major medical/psychological issues and to have a decent man who cared about me for a father.


My family is far from perfect. I've begged by Dad to take my brother to therapy for his socialization issues but he "doesn't believe in it" and my brother has become a "hobby" to him. I'm pretty sure my Dad has ADD which due to lack of treatment may have become Bipolar. He's on SSI disability due to various health issues and can be very deluded to how bad my brother is on top of being extremely controlling with all of us.

My brother is struggling to find a job and his socialization issues are preventing him from passing the interview or keeping anything other than a menial job. I've begged him to get into some sort of job program to help him but again my Dad refuses for made-up reasons (Oh! I talked to someone and he said it was a bad idea! *eye-roll*). So my brother is stuck working at McDonald's and IRS during tax season despite having a bachelor's degree.

My parents are de-facto divorced now, they are still technically married but are basically roommates now for economic reasons (mortgage payment is only 600 and SSI is too small to live off of w/o Mom's salary). I've encouraged my brother and another brother to leave and get an apartment somewhere but they haven't yet. At least my other brother is helping him get out of the house and socialize. My Mom pick her battles with Dad, especially when it comes to my brother, she put her foot down when my Dad refused to give my brother a smartphone and didn't want him to learn texting! Dad has access to my brother's e-mail account so frank conversation is difficult.

/Moved to Canada to get away from the dysfunction
//Dad treats me better now because he can't control me
///Thank you for your kind words
 
2013-11-26 12:55:16 PM  
Can i have his stuff?
 
2013-11-26 01:01:20 PM  

ongbok: People_are_Idiots: HighlanderRPI: Pictures from the Lanza Collection

[www.trbimg.com image 500x332]

[www.trbimg.com image 500x332]

N64 & Dreamcast - clearly there were signs

[th08.deviantart.net image 850x567] [th05.deviantart.net image 731x1094]

Pft... Amateur...

You go through a lot of lotion and tissues, don't you? Hell with all of that lotion you have to buy you can't afford a gun.


Nope, I collect video game systems. It's literally a museum.

Moonfisher: I bet that room smells really musky.


Actually, I had to fix it up. Still a work in progress, but at least the horrible smell of death is gone (my mom passed away in that room... :( )
 
2013-11-26 01:01:33 PM  
Why did he destroy his hard drive? That makes no sense
 
2013-11-26 01:24:20 PM  

justtray: Why did he destroy his hard drive? That makes no sense


2 reasons:

1) He had more detailed plans and personal information on there, porn, etc
2) Paranoid Schizophrenia makes you, well, paranoid

One of the Columbine shooters did the same thing, the one that was definitely a psychopath. The other one didn't and his writings seem to point to him being a depressed toady-submissive type.
 
2013-11-26 01:44:00 PM  

shortymac: ambercat: Mitrovarr: Well, at least we have a satisfactory answer to 'how could this happen' now: A somewhat crazy prepper and gun-nut mom used the shooting range to bond with her sociopathic and otherwise lunatic offspring, thus combining his total lack of emotion and empathy and his fascination with spree killers with a solid background in firearm training. It's kind of like the perfect storm of irresponsibility and psychosis.

Now, a quick public service announcement for idiots:
If you know someone (perhaps your child) who lacks empathy and is otherwise unhinged, do not:
A. Give them access to your firearms.
B. Train them in advanced shooting techniques.
C. Spend your whole life telling them that the world's going to end.

This is the one (besides the whole, holy crap why would you give someone that crazy access to a bunch of guns thing) that I think should be getting more attention. This kid had severe problems dealing with the world, was autistic, possibly had some kind of sensory overload issues to the point that he holes up in his room and blocks the windows. The world itself is already pretty scary to him, and then you raise him to believe that the zombie apocalypse could be happening any day and he could get death paneled, that's got to up his stress levels a whole lot. How is he going to deal with end times when he can't deal with the way things are now? I'm sure his mom loved him and really believed what she believed, but that's got to be a bigger influence on his psychology and snappage than video games.

I don't believe the whole "Mom is a nutty prepper who thought the world was going to end" theory was never proven beyond a few comments (supposedly) from her ex-sister-in-law. Google shows a flurry of articles soon after the tragedy but nothing from an official source supporting it (Books in her house, magazines, etc)

A lot of people blame the Mom and forget she was his first victim. She was also left alone to deal with a highly-dysfunctional child for ...


There's a lot of value to a family unit. We forget that a lot these days...
 
2013-11-26 01:45:17 PM  

tetsoushima: Warlordtrooper: doubled99: See??? He had Aspergers. He had a disability and should be pitied, not despised.

I have Aspergers,  he should have received good mental help before it even got to this point.  but no, nobody in this country wants to even talk about the issue of mental illness.

In your mind, what would constitute a "good conversation" about mental health issues?


Well for starters funding for treatments for people who need it in order to be productive members of society.
 
2013-11-26 01:46:36 PM  

gerbilpox: Pumpernickel bread: Just noticed he used a .223 Bushmaster.  Same gun the D.C. snipers used.

Which, of course, they identified as an AR-15.

[i.imgur.com image 671x519]


That's because it is an ar-15 tard.
 
2013-11-26 01:58:08 PM  

People_are_Idiots: ongbok: People_are_Idiots: HighlanderRPI: Pictures from the Lanza Collection

[www.trbimg.com image 500x332]

[www.trbimg.com image 500x332]

N64 & Dreamcast - clearly there were signs

[th08.deviantart.net image 850x567] [th05.deviantart.net image 731x1094]

Pft... Amateur...

You go through a lot of lotion and tissues, don't you? Hell with all of that lotion you have to buy you can't afford a gun.

Nope, I collect video game systems. It's literally a museum.

Moonfisher: I bet that room smells really musky.

Actually, I had to fix it up. Still a work in progress, but at least the horrible smell of death is gone (my mom passed away in that room... :( )


:(   I was suspecting man-musk, not dearly departed mother musk.  I'm so sorry to hear that.
 
2013-11-26 02:15:21 PM  

Marine1: shortymac: ambercat: Mitrovarr: Well, at least we have a satisfactory answer to 'how could this happen' now: A somewhat crazy prepper and gun-nut mom used the shooting range to bond with her sociopathic and otherwise lunatic offspring, thus combining his total lack of emotion and empathy and his fascination with spree killers with a solid background in firearm training. It's kind of like the perfect storm of irresponsibility and psychosis.

Now, a quick public service announcement for idiots:
If you know someone (perhaps your child) who lacks empathy and is otherwise unhinged, do not:
A. Give them access to your firearms.
B. Train them in advanced shooting techniques.
C. Spend your whole life telling them that the world's going to end.

This is the one (besides the whole, holy crap why would you give someone that crazy access to a bunch of guns thing) that I think should be getting more attention. This kid had severe problems dealing with the world, was autistic, possibly had some kind of sensory overload issues to the point that he holes up in his room and blocks the windows. The world itself is already pretty scary to him, and then you raise him to believe that the zombie apocalypse could be happening any day and he could get death paneled, that's got to up his stress levels a whole lot. How is he going to deal with end times when he can't deal with the way things are now? I'm sure his mom loved him and really believed what she believed, but that's got to be a bigger influence on his psychology and snappage than video games.

I don't believe the whole "Mom is a nutty prepper who thought the world was going to end" theory was never proven beyond a few comments (supposedly) from her ex-sister-in-law. Google shows a flurry of articles soon after the tragedy but nothing from an official source supporting it (Books in her house, magazines, etc)

A lot of people blame the Mom and forget she was his first victim. She was also left alone to deal with a highly-dysfunctiona ...


Thank you, it was still difficult with 5 people able to tag-team him.

Moreover, due to a car accident my Mom suffered at 6 months pregnant, my parents where on the lookout for issues from day 1. My Dad being a doctor also helped tremendously*. Early help is absolutely essential but many parents don't notice any wrong until very late.

From the Daily Mail article, Adam wasn't diagnosed with Autism until 2005 and the family didn't notice anything really wrong until 5th grade. It seems right around puberty is when the OCD (and probably schizophrenia) issues started as well. The whole "withdrawal from society" issue could either be Autism or Schizophrenia, with him it was probably both.

/*The fact that he is a doctor make his whole stubbornness with therapy and programs just sadder
 
2013-11-26 02:55:11 PM  
Just Dance is better than Dance Central


/Might be obscure
 
2013-11-26 03:26:24 PM  

pedrop357: Just Dance is better than Dance Central


/Might be obscure


Nothing is obscure on FARK
 
2013-11-26 03:32:48 PM  
"He attended parties, enjoyed music and played the saxophone."

I don't understand why we are letting saxophones off the hook so easily. This had to have contributed to at least one of the deaths.
 
2013-11-26 03:41:34 PM  

The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: "He attended parties, enjoyed music and played the saxophone."

I don't understand why we are letting saxophones off the hook so easily. This had to have contributed to at least one of the deaths.


Especially if it was a soprano sax...

www.charlestoncitypaper.com
 
2013-11-26 04:19:03 PM  

shortymac: A lot of people blame the Mom and forget she was his first victim. She was also left alone to deal with a highly-dysfunctional child for over a decade by herself, Daddy and Big Bro checked out a long time ago. Even with her money she couldn't commit him or force him into therapy/medication. Many people with his condition end up on the streets because families can't deal with them.


I would normally have sympathy, but she spent years giving a person with severe mental illnesses advanced firearm training (even if the prepper bit is in question, I don't think the gun-range bit is). Also, she failed to secure her guns from him. That is criminally irresponsible and enabled this to happen.
 
2013-11-26 04:32:26 PM  

manimal2878: gerbilpox: Pumpernickel bread: Just noticed he used a .223 Bushmaster.  Same gun the D.C. snipers used.

Which, of course, they identified as an AR-15.

[i.imgur.com image 671x519]

That's because it is an ar-15 tard.


An AR-15TARD? I've never heard of that model. Is that like the TAR-21?
 
2013-11-26 04:36:20 PM  

iq_in_binary: I may be the one willing to whack people's peepees


all right, form an orderly queue, people
 
2013-11-26 05:06:29 PM  

shortymac: pedrop357: Just Dance is better than Dance Central


/Might be obscure

Nothing is obscure on FARK


Prove it.
 
2013-11-26 05:26:20 PM  

Mitrovarr: shortymac: A lot of people blame the Mom and forget she was his first victim. She was also left alone to deal with a highly-dysfunctional child for over a decade by herself, Daddy and Big Bro checked out a long time ago. Even with her money she couldn't commit him or force him into therapy/medication. Many people with his condition end up on the streets because families can't deal with them.

I would normally have sympathy, but she spent years giving a person with severe mental illnesses advanced firearm training (even if the prepper bit is in question, I don't think the gun-range bit is). Also, she failed to secure her guns from him. That is criminally irresponsible and enabled this to happen.


I don't think it's criminal irresponsible because Adam had no history of violence (that we know of) up until that morning.

Moreover, the vast majority of autistics don't have violent tenancies so there's no warning signs when he got diagnosed in 2005 and none of the mental health experts he saw foresaw this. (Daily Mail article)

The shooting range was one of the few activities Adam enjoyed and would leave the house for, the "firearms training" is a desperate Mom's attempt to socialize her severely withdrawn son.

IMHO, Adam had Autism, OCD, and probably paranoid schizophrenia. However, since isolation and withdrawal from society are symptoms of both severe autism AND paranoid schizophrenia, there where no warning signs of some greater illness at play.

/Hindsight is 20/20
//My autistic brother has firearms training too
 
2013-11-26 05:42:32 PM  

Moonfisher: People_are_Idiots: ongbok: People_are_Idiots: HighlanderRPI: Pictures from the Lanza Collection

[www.trbimg.com image 500x332]

[www.trbimg.com image 500x332]

N64 & Dreamcast - clearly there were signs

[th08.deviantart.net image 850x567] [th05.deviantart.net image 731x1094]

Pft... Amateur...

You go through a lot of lotion and tissues, don't you? Hell with all of that lotion you have to buy you can't afford a gun.

Nope, I collect video game systems. It's literally a museum.

Moonfisher: I bet that room smells really musky.

Actually, I had to fix it up. Still a work in progress, but at least the horrible smell of death is gone (my mom passed away in that room... :( )

:(   I was suspecting man-musk, not dearly departed mother musk.  I'm so sorry to hear that.


It's allright. I was glad she passed peacefully like she did, still tears me up a bit around Christmas. Didn't have another use for the room, so... media room, complete with every game system I have hooked up.
 
2013-11-26 05:46:32 PM  

Warlordtrooper: tetsoushima: Warlordtrooper: doubled99: See??? He had Aspergers. He had a disability and should be pitied, not despised.

I have Aspergers,  he should have received good mental help before it even got to this point.  but no, nobody in this country wants to even talk about the issue of mental illness.

In your mind, what would constitute a "good conversation" about mental health issues?

Well for starters funding for treatments for people who need it in order to be productive members of society.


To be clear, the original intent of my question was, "How can we have good conversations about mental heath care in the United States?"  In other words, your answer threw me because it was a specific topic, but I'm willing to participate.
 
Focusing on the Sandy Hook Shooting:  In the Newtown area there was and is significant funding given to mental health services by state, federal, and private interests. The university Adam Lanza went to has its own counseling center with several licensed therapists on staff and is free to all students.  Danbury Hospital, which is less than one mile from where he went to university (about 8-10 miles from Sandy Hook), has a full-time crisis intervention unit and mental health ward.  In this particular case, I don't think it was a matter of poor treatment due to lack of insurance or proper funding, but rather a dangerous and unstable individual who showed few outward warning signs (other than to his mother) prior to his violent outburst.  I'm not sure how better funding would have prevented this scenario.

Widening the scope of the this conversation, it is important to note that northern Fairfield County, CT is relatively well-off with most residents having access to healthcare services.  It is extremely probable that there are programs which could prevent individuals with mental issues from violent actions with increased funding in numerous locales.  Moreover, funding a program is only part of the financial difficulty of mental healthcare in the United States, the other part being insurance or the lack thereof on the part of the patient.
 
2013-11-26 05:51:08 PM  

pedrop357: shortymac: pedrop357: Just Dance is better than Dance Central


/Might be obscure

Nothing is obscure on FARK

Prove it.


Ok, I bet you can guess where this is from...
static.tumblr.com
 
2013-11-26 05:57:28 PM  

People_are_Idiots: pedrop357: shortymac: pedrop357: Just Dance is better than Dance Central


/Might be obscure

Nothing is obscure on FARK

Prove it.

Ok, I bet you can guess where this is from...
[static.tumblr.com image 460x307]


Hey, I didn't say that nothing was obscure.  It looks eerily familiar, but I have no idea where it's from.

The thing I'm referencing that statement is fairly new.
 
2013-11-26 06:30:17 PM  

shortymac: /Hindsight is 20/20
//My autistic brother has firearms training too


i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-26 07:09:59 PM  

People_are_Idiots: pedrop357: shortymac: pedrop357: Just Dance is better than Dance Central


/Might be obscure

Nothing is obscure on FARK

Prove it.

Ok, I bet you can guess where this is from...
[static.tumblr.com image 460x307]


Is it starcrash?
 
2013-11-26 07:33:37 PM  

Mitrovarr: shortymac: A lot of people blame the Mom and forget she was his first victim. She was also left alone to deal with a highly-dysfunctional child for over a decade by herself, Daddy and Big Bro checked out a long time ago. Even with her money she couldn't commit him or force him into therapy/medication. Many people with his condition end up on the streets because families can't deal with them.

I would normally have sympathy, but she spent years giving a person with severe mental illnesses advanced firearm training (even if the prepper bit is in question, I don't think the gun-range bit is). Also, she failed to secure her guns from him. That is criminally irresponsible and enabled this to happen.


This. I have a mentally ill brother who is completely non violent. And no way in hell would I let him near a gun. And if I found out he had access to a gun, I would do whatever I could to take that access away. Because even though he has never been violent in the past, mental illness is unpredictable, and no one can guarantee that he won't be in the future.

I'm sorry for mom's circumstance, but she was a friggin' dumbass.
 
2013-11-26 07:46:35 PM  

shortymac: People_are_Idiots: pedrop357: shortymac: pedrop357: Just Dance is better than Dance Central


/Might be obscure

Nothing is obscure on FARK

Prove it.

Ok, I bet you can guess where this is from...
[static.tumblr.com image 460x307]

Is it starcrash?


Close.. ;) It's prolly equally as bad.
 
2013-11-26 07:50:04 PM  

Godscrack: [imageshack.us image 612x765]

Also discovered as his laptop wallpaper.


I said it before, but damn, that's hypnotic. Should have been a Photoshop contest.
 
2013-11-26 09:12:44 PM  

grokca: [img.fark.net image 634x415]
It was obviously the vain attempts to stop ceiling cat from watching him masturbate that drove him over the edge.


lawls
 
2013-11-26 11:26:24 PM  

namegoeshere: Mitrovarr: shortymac: A lot of people blame the Mom and forget she was his first victim. She was also left alone to deal with a highly-dysfunctional child for over a decade by herself, Daddy and Big Bro checked out a long time ago. Even with her money she couldn't commit him or force him into therapy/medication. Many people with his condition end up on the streets because families can't deal with them.

I would normally have sympathy, but she spent years giving a person with severe mental illnesses advanced firearm training (even if the prepper bit is in question, I don't think the gun-range bit is). Also, she failed to secure her guns from him. That is criminally irresponsible and enabled this to happen.

This. I have a mentally ill brother who is completely non violent. And no way in hell would I let him near a gun. And if I found out he had access to a gun, I would do whatever I could to take that access away. Because even though he has never been violent in the past, mental illness is unpredictable, and no one can guarantee that he won't be in the future.

I'm sorry for mom's circumstance, but she was a friggin' dumbass.


A diagnosis of Autism isn't seen as a "mental illness" but as a disability (at least colloquially).

ADHD is considered a mental illness too, shall we ban them from access to guns too?  What about women with Premenstrual dysphoric disorder (severe PMS)?

Mental illness is an extremely broad term.
 
2013-11-26 11:28:49 PM  

shortymac: What about women with Premenstrual dysphoric disorder (severe PMS)?

Mental illness is an extremely broad term.


img3.rnkr-static.com
 
2013-11-26 11:29:50 PM  

People_are_Idiots: pedrop357: shortymac: pedrop357: Just Dance is better than Dance Central


/Might be obscure

Nothing is obscure on FARK

Prove it.

Ok, I bet you can guess where this is from...
[static.tumblr.com image 460x307]


I had the misfortune to see this in theaters.  Space Raiders.

Recycled VFX from Battle Beyond the Stars and all.
 
2013-11-26 11:43:22 PM  

freewill: The first strong warning sign I got that a friend's adult son probably had undiagnosed Asperger's came at a Thai restaurant. He'd been acting belligerent when we told him where we were going. He usually insisted on pizza or hamburgers in almost all cases, which I had taken to be some intense immaturity, but I'd never really thought there was anything "wrong".

When we got there, he was sitting there angry, and finally said he was not going to order anything because he "can't eat any of this stuff". I asked him what he meant, they were all common ingredients, and he went through a laundry list of things he "doesn't eat": eggs, broccoli, peanuts, green peppers, rice, etc. It was like Bubba on Forrest Gump talking about shrimp, except it was every food. I managed to talk him into trying a chicken satay appetizer because it was just chicken breast on a stick, and he grumbled for several minutes about it coming with sauce before he decided he could eat that.

It was only later that day that I realized he had almost every symptom of Asperger's, and that this was probably why he acted so suspicious when I suggested a wedge salad at another restaurant in the past. (Almost in a panic, "WHAT IS IT?" "It's a wedge of iceberg lettuce with bacon and blue cheese dressing." "IS THAT ALL?" as if I might be forgetting to mention the cyanide.)

As I understand it, people with Asperger's are often very dependent on routine and have an extremely linear way of thinking that makes it difficult for them to accept new, different ideas once they get an idea in place. This can come out in things like school work (learning one way of doing a math problem, and forever refusing to believe that any other way of solving it could possibly be right and thinking that people who do it differently are wrong), but I guess it's also common for it to come out in an extremely limited diet. They might identify a select few things as "food", and when they're introduced to things that they do not consider fo ...


Pretty sure I don't have Asperger's, but novel food is really, really hard for me to stomach.  Basically, the first time I have a particular dish, it's all I can do to avoid gagging or vomiting (yes, this makes it very hard to go over to people's houses to eat!)  It probably takes me a dozen times or more of eating something to "train" myself to tolerate it.  And often, when I do, I actually really end up enjoying the food, but it takes me a long time to get over the initial revulsion.  As might be expected, I tend to have a narrow diet, because while I can and do get over it, most of the time I don't feel like fighting the battle, especially when the first time I can usually only manage a dozen bites before the risk of actually vomiting gets too high, so I end up fairly miserable and hungry again as soon as the nausea passes.
 
2013-11-27 01:26:11 AM  

shortymac: A diagnosis of Autism isn't seen as a "mental illness" but as a disability (at least colloquially).

ADHD is considered a mental illness too, shall we ban them from access to guns too? What about women with Premenstrual dysphoric disorder (severe PMS)?

Mental illness is an extremely broad term.


Autism isn't a mental illness exactly, but it interferes with behavior and judgment in much the same ways. I think it'd be incredibly irresponsible to give any but the most mildly affected autistic individual a gun, or firearm training. Plus, with the 'lacking empathy' description and other behaviors, I think he had a bunch of serious mental illnesses in addition to (or perhaps instead of) autism.

As far as other disorders, you'd have to use your judgment as to who is safe with guns and who isn't, but some cases are obviously unsuitable to own firearms or receive training. Schizophrenia and antisocial personality disorder are the most immediate, obvious ones. Some disorders probably justify it in some cases but not others (bipolar, depression, borderline or narcissistic personality, etc.) There are thorny ethical issues involved in letting the government decide this, but the mom should have known better.
 
2013-11-27 01:36:13 AM  

Brunnen-G: People_are_Idiots: pedrop357: shortymac: pedrop357: Just Dance is better than Dance Central


/Might be obscure

Nothing is obscure on FARK

Prove it.

Ok, I bet you can guess where this is from...
[static.tumblr.com image 460x307]

I had the misfortune to see this in theaters.  Space Raiders.

Recycled VFX from Battle Beyond the Stars and all.


You mean it -wasn't- direct to video? Oh my god I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy.
 
Displayed 317 of 317 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report