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(Telegraph)   How great was the Iran nuke deal? The Saudis are pissed at us now and are going to ramp up their own nuke program   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 194
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2013-11-25 08:19:11 PM
FTFA: Mr. Obaid said that while Saudi Arabia knew that the US was talking directly to Iran through a channel in the Gulf state of Oman, Washington had not directly briefed its ally.  "We were lied to, things were hidden from us," he said. "The problem is not with the deal struck in Geneva but how it was done."

Like Bibi, if you wanted a piece of the action, you should have been at the table. Too late now. Go home and go fark yourself.
 
2013-11-25 08:20:50 PM
Cry me a fraking river. The Saudis have never been trustworthy, and their little wahhabi schools provided the raw material for bin Laden's hobbies.
 
2013-11-25 08:58:13 PM
Oddly enough the article says nothing of the sort and even said the Saudis welcomed the deal. Thanks for the concern, Lying Tea Bagmitter
 
2013-11-25 09:08:00 PM
Why do they have to make their own when they can just order one from Pakistan? Much less headaches.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24823846
 
2013-11-25 09:08:02 PM
Isn't the Telegraph Derp UK?

I get these English Murdochy news services all confused with one another....
 
2013-11-25 09:09:55 PM
If you like your Uranium, you can keep your Uranium!
Is that about how it went?
 
2013-11-25 09:10:18 PM
Go right ahead, you worthless, misogynist shiats.

You've trashed Mecca so badly no archaeologists will care if it gets blown to goddamned pieces.

Let your women go, kill the Wahabbists and Qutbists, and strangle the House of Saud with pig dicks. That's my advice to the Saudi people.
 
2013-11-25 09:13:09 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Oddly enough the article says nothing of the sort and even said the Saudis welcomed the deal. Thanks for the concern, Lying Tea Bagmitter


Meh, it's FARK.
I love this piece of Saudi hypocrisy, "Saudi Arabia is increasingly at odds with Washington over Syria. It rejected a seat on the UN Security Council in protest at the body's failure to "save" Syria." Meaning we won't support the Sunnis and Al Qaeda rebels in their centuries old battle with the Shia/Alawites.  Must really irk the Saudis that the Sunnis there are turning on each other.
 
2013-11-25 09:20:03 PM
I would just purchase one with a delivery system from Pakistan.   They have the money.
 
2013-11-25 09:20:57 PM

simplicimus: Peter von Nostrand: Oddly enough the article says nothing of the sort and even said the Saudis welcomed the deal. Thanks for the concern, Lying Tea Bagmitter

Meh, it's FARK.
I love this piece of Saudi hypocrisy, "Saudi Arabia is increasingly at odds with Washington over Syria. It rejected a seat on the UN Security Council in protest at the body's failure to "save" Syria." Meaning we won't support the Sunnis and Al Qaeda rebels in their centuries old battle with the Shia/Alawites.  Must really irk the Saudis that the Sunnis there are turning on each other.


I thought the point of Fark was to make the news FUNNY, not out-and-out deception.
 
2013-11-25 09:21:59 PM
Since when does the US need the permission of the Saudis to do anything?
 
2013-11-25 09:23:42 PM

Empty Matchbook: simplicimus: Peter von Nostrand: Oddly enough the article says nothing of the sort and even said the Saudis welcomed the deal. Thanks for the concern, Lying Tea Bagmitter

Meh, it's FARK.
I love this piece of Saudi hypocrisy, "Saudi Arabia is increasingly at odds with Washington over Syria. It rejected a seat on the UN Security Council in protest at the body's failure to "save" Syria." Meaning we won't support the Sunnis and Al Qaeda rebels in their centuries old battle with the Shia/Alawites.  Must really irk the Saudis that the Sunnis there are turning on each other.

I thought the point of Fark was to make the news FUNNY, not out-and-out deception.


Sure, 10 years ago when I first signed up. Nowadays, it's misleading headers leading to misleading headlines unsupported by the article that get the greens.
 
2013-11-25 09:24:47 PM

Empty Matchbook: simplicimus: Peter von Nostrand: Oddly enough the article says nothing of the sort and even said the Saudis welcomed the deal. Thanks for the concern, Lying Tea Bagmitter

Meh, it's FARK.
I love this piece of Saudi hypocrisy, "Saudi Arabia is increasingly at odds with Washington over Syria. It rejected a seat on the UN Security Council in protest at the body's failure to "save" Syria." Meaning we won't support the Sunnis and Al Qaeda rebels in their centuries old battle with the Shia/Alawites.  Must really irk the Saudis that the Sunnis there are turning on each other.

I thought the point of Fark was to make the news FUNNY, not out-and-out deception.


THIS

Can't hole the modmins responsible because they cannot check them all for accuracy, but dickmitter needs to get it out of his (her) butt.
 
2013-11-25 09:24:59 PM

Cyclometh: Since when does the US need the permission of the Saudis to do anything?


We don't anymore, since Bush left office. News travels slow in the Middle East, apparently.
 
2013-11-25 09:27:51 PM
Whahabben between the time when you read the article and wrote the headline, subby?
 
2013-11-25 09:28:33 PM

Cyclometh: Since when does the US need the permission of the Saudis to do anything?


we don't since we started pumping more oil than them
 
2013-11-25 09:29:05 PM

Cyclometh: Since when does the US need the permission of the Saudis to do anything?


1980
 
2013-11-25 09:33:09 PM
If you look closely enough, you can see the actual fear-filled looks of desperation on Saudi faces as they realize that the old politics don't work any longer.

When you manage to piss off the Saudis and the Israelis both, you know you're doing something good in the world.
 
2013-11-25 09:38:13 PM

simplicimus: Peter von Nostrand: Oddly enough the article says nothing of the sort and even said the Saudis welcomed the deal. Thanks for the concern, Lying Tea Bagmitter

Meh, it's FARK.
I love this piece of Saudi hypocrisy, "Saudi Arabia is increasingly at odds with Washington over Syria. It rejected a seat on the UN Security Council in protest at the body's failure to "save" Syria." Meaning we won't support the Sunnis and Al Qaeda rebels in their centuries old battle with the Shia/Alawites.  Must really irk the Saudis that the Sunnis there are turning on each other.


I don't know, lately it's been annoying. Fark greens thread after thread on the ACA policy cancellation crisis then greens threads lamenting the media driven fake cancellation crisis... sometimes it seems like Fark is becoming part of the problem and less a comical relief from the problem. Or maybe it's just me
 
2013-11-25 09:38:22 PM
But with hookers and blackjack?
 
2013-11-25 09:39:11 PM
You know, I really wish the global economy wasn't so damn dependent on their backward ass, anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-freedom tribal minded government.
 
2013-11-25 09:39:21 PM
FTFA: In a statement the Saudi government gave a cautious welcome to the Geneva nuclear deal. It said "good intentions" could lead to a comprehensive agreement on Tehran's atomic programme. "This agreement could be a first step towards a comprehensive solution for Iran's nuclear programme, if there are good intentions," the Saudi government said


Yep, exactly what it says. The Saudis are unhappy about being left out and said they would look for their own agreements in the future instead of just following the U.S. Not very concerning.
 
2013-11-25 09:39:38 PM
If nothing else, this deal has been quite useful in proving to some of my family members that Canadian PM Stephen Harper is a not-so-secret Republican. So, thanks for that.
 
2013-11-25 09:41:35 PM
Subby needs a lesson in "How To Read News As If They Were Something Other Than A Spittle-Emitting Moron".

Protip: "Senior adviser to some guy" does not equal "The Official and Unanimous Response of the Nation in Question".

Though it would be helpful if some of the commenters who bit on the headline would RTFA first.
 
2013-11-25 09:42:26 PM
We'd be more than happy to sell them some more toys to make them feel adequate.
 
2013-11-25 09:43:24 PM
Obviously the only correct course of action was to bomb Iran.
 
2013-11-25 09:43:54 PM

whidbey: Isn't the Telegraph Derp UK?

I get these English Murdochy news services all confused with one another....


Not owned by Murdoch. But in some circles they're known as The Torygraph due to their support for conservatives.
 
2013-11-25 09:47:45 PM

Peter von Nostrand: simplicimus: Peter von Nostrand: Oddly enough the article says nothing of the sort and even said the Saudis welcomed the deal. Thanks for the concern, Lying Tea Bagmitter

Meh, it's FARK.
I love this piece of Saudi hypocrisy, "Saudi Arabia is increasingly at odds with Washington over Syria. It rejected a seat on the UN Security Council in protest at the body's failure to "save" Syria." Meaning we won't support the Sunnis and Al Qaeda rebels in their centuries old battle with the Shia/Alawites.  Must really irk the Saudis that the Sunnis there are turning on each other.

I don't know, lately it's been annoying. Fark greens thread after thread on the ACA policy cancellation crisis then greens threads lamenting the media driven fake cancellation crisis... sometimes it seems like Fark is becoming part of the problem and less a comical relief from the problem. Or maybe it's just me


I know. I'm letting my TF expire in Feb. Mainly out of boredom. TFD doesn't hold my interest (actually, never did), and the discussions are less fun than they used to be. Just for grins, I'll be giving a one month TF subscription, one a month for one person for the next three months. Only restriction is recipient has never been a TFer. Maybe some fresh blood would liven things up.
 
2013-11-25 09:50:59 PM
Dear Saudis,

Nothing occurs which is not willed by Allah the merciful and compassionate. So fark off.

Warm regards,
Monkeyhouse Zendo
 
2013-11-25 09:52:23 PM

fusillade762: whidbey: Isn't the Telegraph Derp UK?

I get these English Murdochy news services all confused with one another....

Not owned by Murdoch. But in some circles they're known as The Torygraph due to their support for conservatives.


I think he's thinking of the Daily Mail.
 
2013-11-25 09:58:16 PM
Gary Sick, a former National Security Council expert on Iran who now teaches at Columbia University, said "I think the reason the Israelis and the Saudis and others are so extremely unhappy about this deal is not because they think it's harmful on the nuclear side," he said. "They are really afraid that with this deal, Iran is no longer isolated and no longer has an American gun to its head. They don't want Iran as a player (in the region). They want Iran isolated and out of the picture.
 
2013-11-25 10:00:30 PM

Infernalist: If you look closely enough, you can see the actual fear-filled looks of desperation on Saudi faces as they realize that the old politics don't work any longer.

When you manage to piss off the Saudis and the Israelis both, you know you're doing something good in the world.


It must bother the shiat out of them that we're producing enough of our own oil that we don't need to suck their dicks anymore.

Could be why Obama pushed that Keystone Pipeline through....hm.
 
2013-11-25 10:03:09 PM
Anonymous source is pissed that Iranian oil may be back on the market, lowering his profit. Anonymous source is pissed that the UN didn't give his religious buddies a new country in Syria. Anonymous source is angry that Israel still has nuclear weapons because it's unfair.

Do they celebrate Thanksgiving in Saudi Arabia? Anonymous source sounds like your drunken, conservative uncle.
 
2013-11-25 10:04:46 PM

tinyarena: Gary Sick, a former National Security Council expert on Iran who now teaches at Columbia University, said "I think the reason the Israelis and the Saudis and others are so extremely unhappy about this deal is not because they think it's harmful on the nuclear side," he said. "They are really afraid that with this deal, Iran is no longer isolated and no longer has an American gun to its head. They don't want Iran as a player (in the region). They want Iran isolated and out of the picture.


Well, of course.  The Saudis and the Israelis have been quiet allies for years.  They both benefit from Iran's isolation.  But now that we're no longer leashed to the Saudis due to oil needs, we can tell them to bugger off and do what's best for the Americans and not the Saudis/Israelis.
 
2013-11-25 10:12:25 PM
Mission accomplished?
 
2013-11-25 10:14:20 PM
Given that the people this deal has pissed off includes Republicans, Israelis and Saudis, I can only assume this deal is a good thing.
 
2013-11-25 10:14:31 PM
Are we supposed to be seriously concerned about Arabs building a nuke? Arabs? Sorry, but the hallmark of modern Arab culture is incompetence. Incompetent at war, incompetent in governance, incompetent at economics. They can't dig their own oil, they can't police their own extremists, they suck at everything they do. Saudis build a nuke? Give me a farking break.
 
2013-11-25 10:16:45 PM
Hey, if you manage to simultaneously piss off both Saudi Arabia and Israel, it's probably a sign you're doing something right.
 
2013-11-25 10:18:51 PM

simplicimus: Just for grins, I'll be giving a one month TF subscription, one a month for one person for the next three months. Only restriction is recipient has never been a TFer. Maybe some fresh blood would liven things up.


Well, my sticking point is that I'll never pay for TF until someone subs me for a month to try it out, so maybe our plans mesh? :)
 
2013-11-25 10:19:50 PM
 
2013-11-25 10:22:31 PM
SMELLS LIKE BULLSHIAT.jpg
 
2013-11-25 10:23:20 PM
Not news. Saudi Arabia generates electricity by burning its only resource. They've been planning to ramp up their nuclear program for years.
 
2013-11-25 10:23:53 PM
The politics of the area are interesting. In Syria, the Coptic Christians are not persecuted. Iranian Jews, while pretty much second class citizens are not openly persecuted, although Hebrew is discouraged as a language. At the beginning of the Iranian Revolution "Ayatollah Khomeini met with the Jewish community upon his return from exile in Paris and issued a fatwa decreeing that the Jews were to be protected."
I doubt these protections would continue under Sunni rule.
 
2013-11-25 10:25:00 PM

Klom Dark: simplicimus: Just for grins, I'll be giving a one month TF subscription, one a month for one person for the next three months. Only restriction is recipient has never been a TFer. Maybe some fresh blood would liven things up.

Well, my sticking point is that I'll never pay for TF until someone subs me for a month to try it out, so maybe our plans mesh? :)


If you've never been a TFer, you're this months winner.
 
2013-11-25 10:29:19 PM

simplicimus: Klom Dark: simplicimus: Just for grins, I'll be giving a one month TF subscription, one a month for one person for the next three months. Only restriction is recipient has never been a TFer. Maybe some fresh blood would liven things up.

Well, my sticking point is that I'll never pay for TF until someone subs me for a month to try it out, so maybe our plans mesh? :)

If you've never been a TFer, you're this months winner.


And done. Have fun. You'll get to see the greenlights before they reach the main pages, and maybe have some fun on TF Discussion.
 
2013-11-25 10:49:29 PM

simplicimus: Peter von Nostrand: simplicimus: Peter von Nostrand: Oddly enough the article says nothing of the sort and even said the Saudis welcomed the deal. Thanks for the concern, Lying Tea Bagmitter

Meh, it's FARK.
I love this piece of Saudi hypocrisy, "Saudi Arabia is increasingly at odds with Washington over Syria. It rejected a seat on the UN Security Council in protest at the body's failure to "save" Syria." Meaning we won't support the Sunnis and Al Qaeda rebels in their centuries old battle with the Shia/Alawites.  Must really irk the Saudis that the Sunnis there are turning on each other.

I don't know, lately it's been annoying. Fark greens thread after thread on the ACA policy cancellation crisis then greens threads lamenting the media driven fake cancellation crisis... sometimes it seems like Fark is becoming part of the problem and less a comical relief from the problem. Or maybe it's just me

I know. I'm letting my TF expire in Feb. Mainly out of boredom. TFD doesn't hold my interest (actually, never did), and the discussions are less fun than they used to be. Just for grins, I'll be giving a one month TF subscription, one a month for one person for the next three months. Only restriction is recipient has never been a TFer. Maybe some fresh blood would liven things up.


Hook a (never-TF) Farker up?

/slashies for internet pan-handling
 
2013-11-25 10:53:00 PM

Kentucky Fried Children: simplicimus: Peter von Nostrand: simplicimus: Peter von Nostrand: Oddly enough the article says nothing of the sort and even said the Saudis welcomed the deal. Thanks for the concern, Lying Tea Bagmitter

Meh, it's FARK.
I love this piece of Saudi hypocrisy, "Saudi Arabia is increasingly at odds with Washington over Syria. It rejected a seat on the UN Security Council in protest at the body's failure to "save" Syria." Meaning we won't support the Sunnis and Al Qaeda rebels in their centuries old battle with the Shia/Alawites.  Must really irk the Saudis that the Sunnis there are turning on each other.

I don't know, lately it's been annoying. Fark greens thread after thread on the ACA policy cancellation crisis then greens threads lamenting the media driven fake cancellation crisis... sometimes it seems like Fark is becoming part of the problem and less a comical relief from the problem. Or maybe it's just me

I know. I'm letting my TF expire in Feb. Mainly out of boredom. TFD doesn't hold my interest (actually, never did), and the discussions are less fun than they used to be. Just for grins, I'll be giving a one month TF subscription, one a month for one person for the next three months. Only restriction is recipient has never been a TFer. Maybe some fresh blood would liven things up.

Hook a (never-TF) Farker up?

/slashies for internet pan-handling


Broke my rule, but done. Have fun.
 
2013-11-25 11:20:08 PM

simplicimus: Klom Dark: simplicimus: Just for grins, I'll be giving a one month TF subscription, one a month for one person for the next three months. Only restriction is recipient has never been a TFer. Maybe some fresh blood would liven things up.

Well, my sticking point is that I'll never pay for TF until someone subs me for a month to try it out, so maybe our plans mesh? :)

If you've never been a TFer, you're this months winner.


Woohoo, thanks!! :)

// Darn it, now my excuse not to pay is gone... Oh well... :)

/// Off to try out my new toy, thanks for the early gift! :)
 
2013-11-25 11:23:15 PM

Klom Dark: simplicimus: Klom Dark: simplicimus: Just for grins, I'll be giving a one month TF subscription, one a month for one person for the next three months. Only restriction is recipient has never been a TFer. Maybe some fresh blood would liven things up.

Well, my sticking point is that I'll never pay for TF until someone subs me for a month to try it out, so maybe our plans mesh? :)

If you've never been a TFer, you're this months winner.

Woohoo, thanks!! :)

// Darn it, now my excuse not to pay is gone... Oh well... :)

/// Off to try out my new toy, thanks for the early gift! :)


Klom Dark: simplicimus: Klom Dark: simplicimus: Just for grins, I'll be giving a one month TF subscription, one a month for one person for the next three months. Only restriction is recipient has never been a TFer. Maybe some fresh blood would liven things up.

Well, my sticking point is that I'll never pay for TF until someone subs me for a month to try it out, so maybe our plans mesh? :)

If you've never been a TFer, you're this months winner.

Woohoo, thanks!! :)

// Darn it, now my excuse not to pay is gone... Oh well... :)

/// Off to try out my new toy, thanks for the early gift! :)


You're welcome.
 
2013-11-26 12:09:52 AM
We should bomb Iran because they're brutal, oppressive Islamic theocrats. Not like those nice, freedom-loving Saudis!
 
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