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2013-11-25 12:44:12 PM
www.red-magpie.com
 
2013-11-25 12:45:42 PM

Dragonflew: Here we go!

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Preview button doesn't work on Android?
 
2013-11-25 12:45:55 PM
inb4 google fanboys complain about apple fanb....gah that was fast
 
2013-11-25 12:45:55 PM
b) Make sure the software on the Android phone is updated to the latest version (i.e. 4.3 or 4.4). You should get a notification if there are software updates.

LOL. Good luck with that.
 
2013-11-25 12:47:37 PM
I just have one question for the Apple folks:

Can you reuse old phones with no service? For example, I have 2 Droid Incredibles that don't have service, but they still work. As a result, I've stripped them down and installed  the Sirius app, and can now have satellite radio throughout the house///
 
2013-11-25 12:48:54 PM
An old iphone is essentially an ipod touch.
 
2013-11-25 12:55:55 PM

Apok451: An old iphone is essentially an ipod touch.


VOIP apps make it just like a phone, too, with a speaker and mic in the right places.
 
2013-11-25 12:56:21 PM

Mikey1969: I just have one question for the Apple folks:

Can you reuse old phones with no service?


Yes. WIfi still works fine.
 
2013-11-25 12:58:10 PM
I've already made up my mind that I'm switching from an iPhone to an Android after the 1st of the year.  I'm really just waiting to see what Samsung announces in January for their replacement of the Galaxy S4 and the Note 3 before I settle on a new phone.  I'll end up rooting any Android I end up purchasing anyway...just because I don't want the crapware.
 
2013-11-25 01:05:05 PM
If I use an Android, how much more of my life is being indexed and tracked by Google?
 
2013-11-25 01:05:59 PM
Other than the shiat battery life, I like my Galaxy Nexus a hell of a lot more than the iphone.

Note to possible switchers: buy an unlocked google Nexus (or an expensive "google experience" phone) or don't buy Android, unless you really like running on old software without ever getting updates.
 
2013-11-25 01:06:21 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Mikey1969: I just have one question for the Apple folks:

Can you reuse old phones with no service?

Yes. WIfi still works fine.


Nice... I keep telling people no to throw their old phones away.
 
2013-11-25 01:07:31 PM
I have an Android (HTC One) for the larger screen. Honestly iOS works smoother then Android. I'm just going by my own experience, and I'm sure there will be many in here that will disagree with me. When 4.4 gets pushed to my phone, I'm going to hold off on that upgrade, as it has some bugs, and works pretty crappy one my Nexus 7 (2013 model).
 
2013-11-25 01:07:47 PM

slayer199: I'll end up rooting any Android I end up purchasing anyway...just because I don't want the crapware.


Good choice. It's one of the reasons I've stayed with HTC for so long, they give you a bootloader unlock, no questions asked. As soon as your root, install "LBE Privacy Guard". You know all those invasive permissions that apps require? You can enable/disable them one-by-one. Angry Birds does NOT need my position, but Redbox does, and I can control that.
 
2013-11-25 01:07:51 PM

coldcuts: If I use an Android, how much more of my life is being indexed and tracked by Google?


don't let your phone recharge in your bedroom, unless you have electrical tape to cover the camera lenses.
 
2013-11-25 01:08:50 PM

coldcuts: If I use an Android, how much more of my life is being indexed and tracked by Google?


All of it. But don't think Apple does not do the same. They just have not sold the info to advertisers... yet.
 
2013-11-25 01:13:28 PM
As a developer and IT professional that has to tolerate BYOD: I hate Android.

The versions and subversions change so often and the number of vendor-specific that disrupt normal code execution make it impossible to have a fully compatible library of applications. In other words, if you download something from Google Play, there's a decent chance that it's not going to work for your device.

That happes in iTunes as well, but not nearly as often. Not even flippin' close.

I'm not a fanboi for one or the other, I own both platforms... I have to, it's part of my job to know them both very well. But as far as being able to tell someone "tap this, that, this, that and this..." ... in iOS that's not a problem, in Android it is. It changes as much as the Google Apps interface. It's ridiculous.
 
2013-11-25 01:16:05 PM

Tax Boy: Other than the shiat battery life, I like my Galaxy Nexus a hell of a lot more than the iphone.

Note to possible switchers: buy an unlocked google Nexus (or an expensive "google experience" phone) or don't buy Android, unless you really like running on old software without ever getting updates.


Or the Moto X.

Seriously, it got KitKat before the Nexus 4 did.
 
2013-11-25 01:18:09 PM

tuxq: In other words, if you download something from Google Play, there's a decent chance that it's not going to work for your device.


I've been using Android since 2.3, and have never had this happen.  Not once.  Play is pretty damn good about flagging incompatible apps.
 
2013-11-25 01:22:43 PM

Tax Boy: Other than the shiat battery life, I like my Galaxy Nexus a hell of a lot more than the iphone.

Note to possible switchers: buy an unlocked google Nexus (or an expensive "google experience" phone) or don't buy Android, unless you really like running on old software without ever getting updates.


Moto G is $179 direct from manufacturer completely unlocked  which, given its specs is one hell of a deal.

It's important to remembers in considering Apple v. Andriod, and Google phones specifically, that Apple is a device maker, and their business model is predicated on getting you pay a premium for the hardware they offer.

Google is an advertising company whose business depends on getting eyes in front of a screen  providing a Google service, so they will sell their devices at near-cost or less
 
2013-11-25 01:29:02 PM
Whatever is on sale? My friend is using a Nokia L520 from a Note(it broke) 1 till his contract then he will get a Lumia 1520
 
2013-11-25 01:38:17 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I have an Android (HTC One) for the larger screen. Honestly iOS works smoother then Android. I'm just going by my own experience, and I'm sure there will be many in here that will disagree with me. When 4.4 gets pushed to my phone, I'm going to hold off on that upgrade, as it has some bugs, and works pretty crappy one my Nexus 7 (2013 model).


What do you mean when you say "smoother"? Are you talking about scrolling pages or opening apps or what? I notice people say something is smoother on their devices and until now, I've never really thought about what that means to them.
 
2013-11-25 01:39:48 PM

HeartBurnKid: tuxq: In other words, if you download something from Google Play, there's a decent chance that it's not going to work for your device.

I've been using Android since 2.3, and have never had this happen.  Not once.  Play is pretty damn good about flagging incompatible apps.


I've been using Android since 1.  Had a T-Mobile G1 (HTC Dream), the very first Android phone, as a backup until recently.  Had this happened just once, but I was using market, the predecessor of Play.  They stopped updating the G1 at 1.6, so Play isn't compatible with it.
 
2013-11-25 01:40:05 PM

Gig103: slayer199: I'll end up rooting any Android I end up purchasing anyway...just because I don't want the crapware.

Good choice. It's one of the reasons I've stayed with HTC for so long, they give you a bootloader unlock, no questions asked. As soon as your root, install "LBE Privacy Guard". You know all those invasive permissions that apps require? You can enable/disable them one-by-one. Angry Birds does NOT need my position, but Redbox does, and I can control that.


Thanks for the tip!  I'm looking forward to switching...doing my due diligence in the meantime.  I'm hoping Samsung improves their cameras...because the reviews of the cameras on their phones are lukewarm at best.
 
2013-11-25 01:40:38 PM

Mikey1969: I just have one question for the Apple folks:

Can you reuse old phones with no service? For example, I have 2 Droid Incredibles that don't have service, but they still work. As a result, I've stripped them down and installed  the Sirius app, and can now have satellite radio throughout the house///


Sure. I have old iPhones that still can be used as media devices.  They just can't make phone calls except for 911.
 
2013-11-25 01:41:58 PM

MagSeven: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I have an Android (HTC One) for the larger screen. Honestly iOS works smoother then Android. I'm just going by my own experience, and I'm sure there will be many in here that will disagree with me. When 4.4 gets pushed to my phone, I'm going to hold off on that upgrade, as it has some bugs, and works pretty crappy one my Nexus 7 (2013 model).

What do you mean when you say "smoother"? Are you talking about scrolling pages or opening apps or what? I notice people say something is smoother on their devices and until now, I've never really thought about what that means to them.


Smoother as in scrolling, opening of apps. I also find the same apps like Netflix work better on iOS then Android.
 
2013-11-25 01:45:30 PM

MagSeven: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I have an Android (HTC One) for the larger screen. Honestly iOS works smoother then Android. I'm just going by my own experience, and I'm sure there will be many in here that will disagree with me. When 4.4 gets pushed to my phone, I'm going to hold off on that upgrade, as it has some bugs, and works pretty crappy one my Nexus 7 (2013 model).

What do you mean when you say "smoother"? Are you talking about scrolling pages or opening apps or what? I notice people say something is smoother on their devices and until now, I've never really thought about what that means to them.


In iOS, all user input and feedback is run on the main thread. Any work required is dispatched to a worker thread.  This ensures that rendering the UI and handling user input is a priority.  The help the device to respond quickly to touches and scrolling operations run smoothly without minor interruptions.   It's pretty stark when you put an Android device beside a iOS device.  The iOS interface is clearly more responsive.

In addition, the touch accuracy of the iOS devices is better than most Android devices.  I can't tell you how many times the OS thinks I've hit a button near what I wanted.
 
2013-11-25 01:46:03 PM

slayer199: I've already made up my mind that I'm switching from an iPhone to an Android after the 1st of the year.  I'm really just waiting to see what Samsung announces in January for their replacement of the Galaxy S4 and the Note 3 before I settle on a new phone.  I'll end up rooting any Android I end up purchasing anyway...just because I don't want the crapware.


It's unlikely it'll be better than a Nexus 5. Just get a Nexus 5.
 
2013-11-25 01:53:10 PM

HeartBurnKid: tuxq: In other words, if you download something from Google Play, there's a decent chance that it's not going to work for your device.

I've been using Android since 2.3, and have never had this happen.  Not once.  Play is pretty damn good about flagging incompatible apps.


I've had my share of Iphones, I now have a Galaxy S4 - I would never again go back to apple. Every app I have is free, dunno where this "app doesnt work" comes in, I had Android since 1.7 or so and right now 4.3 every app works fine. Google play does a great job weeding out bad apps, ALSO if the app has any malware or spyware it alerts you - usually these Apps disappear almost instantly.

As for my Iphone 3, Samsung had a deal that anyone who sells them their old phone, they add $25 to the bill, I ended up getting $90 for my new samsung phone.

/S4 is pretty damn impressive, Fact i only paid $395 for it and have no contracts while only paying $60 a month for unlimited everything, I laugh at Verizon who I ditched, $138 a month and barely could do much online before my bandwith went over the limit, screw that never again
 
2013-11-25 01:55:03 PM

jonny_q: slayer199: I've already made up my mind that I'm switching from an iPhone to an Android after the 1st of the year.  I'm really just waiting to see what Samsung announces in January for their replacement of the Galaxy S4 and the Note 3 before I settle on a new phone.  I'll end up rooting any Android I end up purchasing anyway...just because I don't want the crapware.

It's unlikely it'll be better than a Nexus 5. Just get a Nexus 5.


No microSD card slot. Non replaceable battery. May as well get an iPhone.

/That used to be the 'deal killer' in these Android threads.
 
2013-11-25 01:55:08 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: MagSeven: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I have an Android (HTC One) for the larger screen. Honestly iOS works smoother then Android. I'm just going by my own experience, and I'm sure there will be many in here that will disagree with me. When 4.4 gets pushed to my phone, I'm going to hold off on that upgrade, as it has some bugs, and works pretty crappy one my Nexus 7 (2013 model).

What do you mean when you say "smoother"? Are you talking about scrolling pages or opening apps or what? I notice people say something is smoother on their devices and until now, I've never really thought about what that means to them.

Smoother as in scrolling, opening of apps. I also find the same apps like Netflix work better on iOS then Android.



Cool. That's what I thought, but just clarifying. Most of the time, I end up switching launchers on Android so I guess stock out of the box iOS is probably better in that aspect.
 
2013-11-25 01:55:09 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: MagSeven: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I have an Android (HTC One) for the larger screen. Honestly iOS works smoother then Android. I'm just going by my own experience, and I'm sure there will be many in here that will disagree with me. When 4.4 gets pushed to my phone, I'm going to hold off on that upgrade, as it has some bugs, and works pretty crappy one my Nexus 7 (2013 model).

What do you mean when you say "smoother"? Are you talking about scrolling pages or opening apps or what? I notice people say something is smoother on their devices and until now, I've never really thought about what that means to them.

Smoother as in scrolling, opening of apps. I also find the same apps like Netflix work better on iOS then Android.


I own a Droid Eris, a Galaxy Nexus, and a Nexus 7 (2012) and I have to agree with at least the UI smoothness.  Every time I use an iOS device, the touch feels 'lighter' than any Android I've used.  It's probably the only single feature of iOS that I wish my Android devices had.
 
2013-11-25 02:20:22 PM

jonny_q: It's unlikely it'll be better than a Nexus 5. Just get a Nexus 5.


The one thing that stops me from going with the Nexus 5 is that it isn't expandable.
 
2013-11-25 02:27:26 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: No microSD card slot. Non replaceable battery. May as well get an iPhone.


Exactly.  The reasons I'm switching are:

1.  I HATE ITUNES (well, backup/syncing with iTunes).
2.  More screen real estate
3.  Ability to customize and tweak more (which I used to be able to do with my jailbroken 4).
4.  Replaceable battery and expandable memory (microSD)

I'll root whatever phone I get because I'm geeky that way.

The only thing that concerns me is that none of the cameras I've read about in the Android phones are very good.  I'll wait for the Samsung announcement in January before making a jump.
 
2013-11-25 02:49:19 PM
My iPhone 5S is compact, powerful, smooth and  runs any app that I need. I don't even root it. Screw Google. Advertising companies like Google can literally fark off and suck me. Pay me, motherfarker.

I'm not going to put some 5" monstrosity in my pants  like some kind of god-dammed nerd, either, so the Galaxies and Nexuses of the world can suck it as well.
 
2013-11-25 03:06:45 PM

coldcuts: If I use an Android, how much more of my life is being indexed and tracked by Google?



Everything they missed on the first pass.
 
2013-11-25 03:07:52 PM
I have an iPhone 3GS, and my eyes aren't so great.  Also, I've been wanting to read articles on it - clinical references and guidelines I need on the spot (not browsing).  I can do it, but currently quite annoying and need to zoom on the small iPhone screen.

So I don't need to carry a small tablet, I was thinking of moving to a Note 3 (or maybe Note 2).

All I want to do is this:
- read PDFs easily
- move MP3s on and off the device (hate using iTunes for this; syncing has erased music, all of which I legitimately own)
- run a couple of medical apps I know are on both platforms.
- standard surf, text, mail

Any reason not to switch?  Think the Nexus or Galaxy will be fine with just an extra inch of diagonal screen?
 
2013-11-25 03:15:28 PM

Primum: I'm not going to put some 5" monstrosity in my pants


I'm comfortable with my 7 inch monstrosity in my pants. I suppose your 4 incher works just fine for you.
 
2013-11-25 03:25:06 PM
I was with you right up until it said "insert your credit card".
Doesn't google have that information already?

/I should be able to pick up any phone and shout "Convert me to Android" at the dial tone.
/In the morning the sheriffs secret police will leave a yellow carnation on my doorstep, so I know it is done.
 
2013-11-25 03:29:21 PM

Theaetetus: Preview button doesn't work on Android?


Posting from PC, and it told me it didn't work the first time I tried. Mods deleted my dupe anyway (thanks!)

the Apple Signal didn't work... AppleMan is not here yet. But never fear, he will be along soon with his smug-o-rang, his insult belt, and his box of charts.
 
2013-11-25 03:36:13 PM

Primum: I'm not going to put some 5" monstrosity in my pants


That's not what your mom, yadda yadda.

/jk
 
2013-11-25 03:39:04 PM

Tax Boy: Other than the shiat battery life, I like my Galaxy Nexus a hell of a lot more than the iphone.

Note to possible switchers: buy an unlocked google Nexus (or an expensive "google experience" phone) or don't buy Android, unless you really like running on old software without ever getting updates.


I got a extended battery for my Galaxy Nexus so I am happy about that. I'm not happy that because the company that made the Nexus Galaxy CPU no longer supports it, KitKat will not be coming to the phone.

Even though the Nexus 5 has no expandable memory and you cannot switch out the battery, I bought it anyways and also purchased an external battery. KitKat runs really well on the Nexus 5 hardware and I'm glad I bought it. The one minor gripe I have is the phone is so light I always feel like it's going to slip from my hand.
 
2013-11-25 03:39:21 PM
Got my nexus 5 a couple weeks ago, retired my galaxy nexus. I rooted second day and am running a basic ROM, running great. The basic differences between android and iOS nowadays are in my opinion ram management and screen size. I could never go back to a four inch screen. The 5s is still a beast though.
 
2013-11-25 03:56:11 PM

skinink: Tax Boy: Other than the shiat battery life, I like my Galaxy Nexus a hell of a lot more than the iphone.

Note to possible switchers: buy an unlocked google Nexus (or an expensive "google experience" phone) or don't buy Android, unless you really like running on old software without ever getting updates.

I got a extended battery for my Galaxy Nexus so I am happy about that. I'm not happy that because the company that made the Nexus Galaxy CPU no longer supports it, KitKat will not be coming to the phone.

Even though the Nexus 5 has no expandable memory and you cannot switch out the battery, I bought it anyways and also purchased an external battery. KitKat runs really well on the Nexus 5 hardware and I'm glad I bought it. The one minor gripe I have is the phone is so light I always feel like it's going to slip from my hand.


I've been running AOSP 'Shiny' 4.4 on my GNex since they made the announcement that it wouldn't be officially supported.  It has a few bugs, but i'm getting much better battery life.  I've got to get this phone to last as long as possible, as I have it grandfathered on a Verizon unlimited plan still.
 
2013-11-25 04:30:51 PM

HeartBurnKid: tuxq: In other words, if you download something from Google Play, there's a decent chance that it's not going to work for your device.

I've been using Android since 2.3, and have never had this happen.  Not once.  Play is pretty damn good about flagging incompatible apps.


I can vouch for that: been trying to get VLC for Android Beta but it'll say that it's incompatible.
 
2013-11-25 04:33:13 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: jonny_q: slayer199: I've already made up my mind that I'm switching from an iPhone to an Android after the 1st of the year.  I'm really just waiting to see what Samsung announces in January for their replacement of the Galaxy S4 and the Note 3 before I settle on a new phone.  I'll end up rooting any Android I end up purchasing anyway...just because I don't want the crapware.

It's unlikely it'll be better than a Nexus 5. Just get a Nexus 5.

No microSD card slot. Non replaceable battery. May as well get an iPhone.

/That used to be the 'deal killer' in these Android threads.


I was thinking of getting the Nexus 4 a few months ago because I want to have my music on the phone.  No microSD card = dealbreaker.  So I got the Sony Xperia Z.  Have been very happy with it and just got 4.2.2 installed so I'm getting a 64 gig microSD card in the near future.
 
2013-11-25 04:34:20 PM

Gig103: slayer199: I'll end up rooting any Android I end up purchasing anyway...just because I don't want the crapware.

Good choice. It's one of the reasons I've stayed with HTC for so long, they give you a bootloader unlock, no questions asked. As soon as your root, install "LBE Privacy Guard". You know all those invasive permissions that apps require? You can enable/disable them one-by-one. Angry Birds does NOT need my position, but Redbox does, and I can control that.


Be careful. For some reason on some 4.0+ devices, LBE causes boot looping. Just tried installing it on my Nexus 4 (unlocked/rooted Android 4.4) and it kept restarting. Some users are saying it can even cause the entire device to boot loop.
 
2013-11-25 05:35:09 PM

Driedsponge: skinink: Tax Boy: Other than the shiat battery life, I like my Galaxy Nexus a hell of a lot more than the iphone.

Note to possible switchers: buy an unlocked google Nexus (or an expensive "google experience" phone) or don't buy Android, unless you really like running on old software without ever getting updates.

I got a extended battery for my Galaxy Nexus so I am happy about that. I'm not happy that because the company that made the Nexus Galaxy CPU no longer supports it, KitKat will not be coming to the phone.

Even though the Nexus 5 has no expandable memory and you cannot switch out the battery, I bought it anyways and also purchased an external battery. KitKat runs really well on the Nexus 5 hardware and I'm glad I bought it. The one minor gripe I have is the phone is so light I always feel like it's going to slip from my hand.

I've been running AOSP 'Shiny' 4.4 on my GNex since they made the announcement that it wouldn't be officially supported.  It has a few bugs, but i'm getting much better battery life.  I've got to get this phone to last as long as possible, as I have it grandfathered on a Verizon unlimited plan still.


I'm sitting in the same boat as you, except I gave up on having a rooted GNex. I'm not slick with that sort of thing, my friend rooted it for me and I tried to get cute installing different Roms and bricked it.

Luckily I was able to get it back to stock, but I need this damn thing to last till probably April at the latest.
 
2013-11-25 06:04:02 PM

tuxq: As a developer and IT professional that has to tolerate BYOD: I hate Android.

The versions and subversions change so often and the number of vendor-specific that disrupt normal code execution make it impossible to have a fully compatible library of applications. In other words, if you download something from Google Play, there's a decent chance that it's not going to work for your device.


As a developer, you should know that the API version is chosen when the software is written.  If a newer API is used, the Play store will either give you the older version or tell you that the application is incompatible.  Since the developer must choose the API, there are no surprises when backwards compatibility is broken.  There are many theoretical instances of this happening (the fragmentation myth), but very few in practice.
 
2013-11-25 06:54:10 PM

Primum: My iPhone 5S is compact, powerful, smooth and  runs any app that I need. I don't even root it. Screw Google. Advertising companies like Google can literally fark off and suck me. Pay me, motherfarker.

I'm not going to put some 5" monstrosity in my pants  like some kind of god-dammed nerd, either, so the Galaxies and Nexuses of the world can suck it as well.


You're just angry because a '5" monstrosity' would be, by far, the biggest thing in your pants ...
 
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