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(Gawker)   White Christian rock guy tells Oprah that America is not racist. His credentials include reading "Black Like Me as a third-grader"   (gawker.com) divider line 193
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2013-11-25 12:48:24 PM
FTFA: "If your daughter were thinking of marrying a man like  Clarence Thomas or one like Chris Matthews, which would you choose?" I ask.

I'd say that's an automatic i.imgur.comeither way.
 
2013-11-25 12:53:51 PM
How can we be racist? We elected a black president! And I, for one, haven't seen any negative reactions to him based on his ethnicity.
 
2013-11-25 01:14:30 PM
I've never heard of the book "Black Like Me As A Third Grader" subby
 
2013-11-25 01:25:43 PM

GRCooper: I've never heard of the book "Black Like Me As A Third Grader" subby


It's a short book.  The main character progressed to the 4th grade and turned white.
 
2013-11-25 01:35:51 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: How can we be racist? We elected a black president! And I, for one, haven't seen any negative reactions to him based on his ethnicity.


Funny joke but the fact is we did elect a black president. So at the very least were mostly not racist.
 
2013-11-25 01:41:13 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: How can we be racist? We elected a black president! And I, for one, haven't seen any negative reactions to him based on his ethnicity.

Funny joke but the fact is we did elect a black president. So at the very least werethe people who voted in 2008 and 2012 were mostly not racistless racist than concerned about politics.


Racism is a continuum from overt, intentional, and cruel to covert, accidental, and harmless.
 
2013-11-25 01:42:04 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: How can we be racist? We elected a black president! And I, for one, haven't seen any negative reactions to him based on his ethnicity.

Funny joke but the fact is we did elect a black president. So at the very least were mostly not racist.


We're like recovering alcoholics who keep falling off the wagon.
 
2013-11-25 01:44:11 PM
America is still a racist place, sorry guy.
 
2013-11-25 01:44:57 PM
My dad's not an alcoholic because he doesn't pass out from drinking, never drinks before 5 pm, and a bunch of other things that prove it. This is a fine approach when you ignore what the mainstream definition of something is.
 
2013-11-25 01:45:08 PM
Meanwhile, you just received your third "knockout game" email from your totally not racist uncle - he's just telling the truth that the MSM media doesn't want to talk about.
 
2013-11-25 01:46:19 PM
I don't know if we're racist, but we're certainly segregated. Just look at a demographic map. The North has like no black people. It's shameful.
 
2013-11-25 01:46:25 PM
This again seems like a confusion about individual prejudice versus institutional racism.  There's plenty of both, but they are separate and distinct.  We are in general a less racist society than preceding generations but there are still significant barriers to minority achievement both due to the philosophical, economic, and legal echoes of racist laws and norms of the past.

Also: kudos to the TFA commenter for using "whitesplaining" in an appropriately sarcastic tone.
 
2013-11-25 01:46:26 PM
Obligatory:

i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-25 01:46:49 PM

FarkedOver: America The world is still a racist place, sorry guy.

 
2013-11-25 01:47:26 PM

Somacandra: FTFA: "If your daughter were thinking of marrying a man like  Clarence Thomas or one like Chris Matthews, which would you choose?" I ask.

I'd say that's an automatic [i.imgur.com image 65x16]either way.


Wow. Someone's really prejudiced against assholes.
 
2013-11-25 01:48:05 PM
Since most "racism" is essentially not liking other people's perceptions or generalizations of you, it's really not much of a big deal.
 
2013-11-25 01:48:07 PM
When he sings White Christmas he means it.
 
2013-11-25 01:48:54 PM

Rapmaster2000: Meanwhile, you just received your third "knockout game" email from your totally not racist uncle - he's just telling the truth that the MSM media doesn't want to talk about.


I don't know about your uncle. But the knockout game IS racist. At least from the reports I've read.
 
2013-11-25 01:49:28 PM
I have a parlor game I play with my white conservative friends that tells me everything I need to know about the state of race relations in America.
"If your daughter were thinking of marrying a man like  Clarence Thomas or one like Chris Matthews, which would you choose?" I ask.


Are conservative parlor games always this creepy?

"...If your daughter were thinking of blowing me, or taking it in the ass from me, which would you choose?"
 
2013-11-25 01:49:54 PM

bopis: FarkedOver: America The world is still a racist place, sorry guy.


Sure, but I was just staying on point as this article is about America.
 
2013-11-25 01:53:57 PM
Would you rather your daughter do Mary Cheney or Cory Booker? Too easy? Mary Cheney vs. Trig Palin.
 
2013-11-25 01:54:56 PM

FarkedOver: bopis: FarkedOver: America The world is still a racist place, sorry guy.

Sure, but I was just staying on point as this article is about America.


So you're racist, then? Or are you not part of "America"?
 
2013-11-25 01:55:15 PM

cvrettos: Obligatory:


Never was spoken a truer statement on the genre.

phenn: I don't know about your uncle. But the knockout game IS racist. At least from the reports I've read.


It is an expression of hooliganism and bigotry, but there's no institutional nor legal construct behind it.  Fun to see that the kids that attacked the Orthodox Jewish man are getting hate crime charges thrown on.

sweetmelissa31: "...If your daughter were thinking of blowing me, or taking it in the ass from me, which would you choose?"


No kidding.  What father would present that choice?  Clarence Thomas is famous for bringing sexual harassment to the forefront of American media in the 90s.  "Hair in Coke," anyone?
 
2013-11-25 01:55:45 PM
Sometimes I'm not sure if its racism or classism anymore. It just so happens that the poorest people in my area are overwhelmingly black, but I see the same attitudes toward the white and Hispanic families who are in those same situations, same housing projects, etc. I see people rolling their eyes and grumbling at the single mom with 3 kids redeeming 3 seperate WIC checks in the checkout lane regardless of what color she is. I hear the snide remarks about Medicaid recipients with cell phones and blah blah brand clothes if they're black, white, Mexican, Puerto Rican, or whomever.
 
2013-11-25 01:56:15 PM

phenn: Rapmaster2000: Meanwhile, you just received your third "knockout game" email from your totally not racist uncle - he's just telling the truth that the MSM media doesn't want to talk about.

I don't know about your uncle. But the knockout game IS racist. At least from the reports I've read.


It's also a raging epidemic that you should be very afraid of.
 
2013-11-25 01:59:22 PM
I've come to believe that racism is the biggest obstacle to progress in this country.

The masses, right and left, are pretty much in agreement that banks are screwing over homeowners, investors, businesses, taxpayers, and our economy as a whole. Yet we allow them to continue, because we're afraid that the only people who would stop them (liberal Democrats) might also enrich the fabled "welfare queen."
 
2013-11-25 02:00:21 PM
The accusation of racism is especially insidious because any attempt to defend yourself against it just makes you look more like a racist. "I'm not racist because___________" is a losing prospect, no matter what is in the blank. The only recourse against an accusation of racism is to call the accuser an idiot and drop it.

I've got a whole bag of privileges that I ain't even checked yet.
 
2013-11-25 02:00:59 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: FarkedOver: bopis: FarkedOver: America The world is still a racist place, sorry guy.

Sure, but I was just staying on point as this article is about America.

So you're racist, then? Or are you not part of "America"?


I'm a sovereign citizen.
 
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2013-11-25 02:01:59 PM
After Oprah's fake racism charge in Switzerland I can't believe anything she says. She thinks everyone is racist against her. Afterall, she did or still does attend Rev Wright's racist black liberation theology church.
 
2013-11-25 02:03:20 PM
I hereby declare, we the people, of this great nation, establish a new holiday: Racist Day! On this day, instead of getting presents, stuffing meatballs in our mouths, or going door to door begging for crack laced candies, we shall spread hate, in order to help our people remember what racism really is. No one will be charged with any crime on this day. After this day has past, once every year, we will all get along better, knowing everyone probably isn't as racist as we thought they were before this holiday was established.
 
2013-11-25 02:05:15 PM

FarkedOver: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: FarkedOver: bopis: FarkedOver: America The world is still a racist place, sorry guy.

Sure, but I was just staying on point as this article is about America.

So you're racist, then? Or are you not part of "America"?

I'm a sovereign citizen.



i203.photobucket.com
 
2013-11-25 02:05:17 PM
when black people inslave white people for over 100 years then and only then will there be any kind of equality.

Thats the formula I use when a white person asked about racial equality.
 
2013-11-25 02:05:24 PM

factoryconnection: It is an expression of hooliganism and bigotry, but there's no institutional nor legal construct behind it. Fun to see that the kids that attacked the Orthodox Jewish man are getting hate crime charges thrown on


True. But, it's unfair for anyone (not you) to purport that whites might be the only racists.

Happy to hear about the hate crime charges. A few people have died because of this 'hooliganism'.
 
2013-11-25 02:05:40 PM
If you're white and were brought up in white middle class suburbia, odds are good you have prejudices you don't even realize you have.

If you're white and were brought up in White Trashville, odds are good you're just a racist.
 
2013-11-25 02:05:59 PM
FYI: People don't hate you because you're black, Oprah...they hate you because you're Oprah.
 
2013-11-25 02:06:06 PM

dv-ous: FarkedOver: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: FarkedOver: bopis: FarkedOver: America The world is still a racist place, sorry guy.

Sure, but I was just staying on point as this article is about America.

So you're racist, then? Or are you not part of "America"?

I'm a sovereign citizen.


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Actually I'm not serious... but ok.
 
2013-11-25 02:07:03 PM

phenn: factoryconnection: It is an expression of hooliganism and bigotry, but there's no institutional nor legal construct behind it. Fun to see that the kids that attacked the Orthodox Jewish man are getting hate crime charges thrown on

True. But, it's unfair for anyone (not you) to purport that whites might be the only racists.

Happy to hear about the hate crime charges. A few people have died because of this 'hooliganism'.


Why is "the media only says whites are racist" such a popular meme among racists?
 
2013-11-25 02:08:21 PM

v15: After Oprah's fake racism charge in Switzerland I can't believe anything she says. She thinks everyone is racist against her. Afterall, she did or still does attend Rev Wright's racist black liberation theology church.


When you say Wright's church is racist, do you mean  they think Black people are genetically superior to other races, or that they refuse to admit that Black people are treated 100% fairly in this society and have nothing to complain about?
 
2013-11-25 02:08:31 PM

phenn: Rapmaster2000: Meanwhile, you just received your third "knockout game" email from your totally not racist uncle - he's just telling the truth that the MSM media doesn't want to talk about.

I don't know about your uncle. But the knockout game IS racist. At least from the reports I've read.


I knew white kids who played the "Knockout Game" in the mid-nineties. They never made the news.
 
2013-11-25 02:08:34 PM
On the whole, no America is not racist. And racism is continually decreasing. Most instances of racism, at least in the media, are drummed up to try to sell you something. Are there racists here? Sure. But it's nowhere near as institutionalized as some would have you believe.
 
2013-11-25 02:09:32 PM

Rapmaster2000: phenn: factoryconnection: It is an expression of hooliganism and bigotry, but there's no institutional nor legal construct behind it. Fun to see that the kids that attacked the Orthodox Jewish man are getting hate crime charges thrown on

True. But, it's unfair for anyone (not you) to purport that whites might be the only racists.

Happy to hear about the hate crime charges. A few people have died because of this 'hooliganism'.

Why is "the media only says whites are racist" such a popular meme among racists?


Persecution complex.
 
2013-11-25 02:09:33 PM

Rapmaster2000: Why is "the media only says whites are racist" such a popular meme among racists?


I don't know. You'd have to ask one.
 
2013-11-25 02:10:00 PM

phenn: factoryconnection: It is an expression of hooliganism and bigotry, but there's no institutional nor legal construct behind it. Fun to see that the kids that attacked the Orthodox Jewish man are getting hate crime charges thrown on

True. But, it's unfair for anyone (not you) to purport that whites might be the only racists.


Honestly, who actually believes this? The only time I see this little canard trotted out is as a straw man for conservatives to beat up on. Personally, I've never met anyone who thought whites can be the only racists.

Generally, it seems to me to be a willful misunderstanding of the (frankly obvious) point that white racism matters much, much more than most forms of non-white racism.

/Don't get me wrong, I'm sure someone believes this. Someone believes pretty much anything, but I don't think it's a significant portion of the population.
 
2013-11-25 02:10:43 PM
Also, racism threads suck. This will just decend into everyone accusing each other of racism and nothing every comes about from it.
 
2013-11-25 02:11:30 PM

Hickory-smoked: v15: After Oprah's fake racism charge in Switzerland I can't believe anything she says. She thinks everyone is racist against her. Afterall, she did or still does attend Rev Wright's racist black liberation theology church.

When you say Wright's church is racist, do you mean  they think Black people are genetically superior to other races, or that they refuse to admit that Black people are treated 100% fairly in this society and have nothing to complain about?


Why are you capitalizing Black people? Are you referring to a specific family with that surname? You're not very smart, are you?
 
2013-11-25 02:12:09 PM

eiger: phenn: factoryconnection: It is an expression of hooliganism and bigotry, but there's no institutional nor legal construct behind it. Fun to see that the kids that attacked the Orthodox Jewish man are getting hate crime charges thrown on

True. But, it's unfair for anyone (not you) to purport that whites might be the only racists.

Honestly, who actually believes this? The only time I see this little canard trotted out is as a straw man for conservatives to beat up on. Personally, I've never met anyone who thought whites can be the only racists.

Generally, it seems to me to be a willful misunderstanding of the (frankly obvious) point that white racism matters much, much more than most forms of non-white racism.

/Don't get me wrong, I'm sure someone believes this. Someone believes pretty much anything, but I don't think it's a significant portion of the population.


Marcus in this thread just implied that all white people are either racist or "bias". This view isn't that uncommon.
 
2013-11-25 02:12:41 PM

Rapmaster2000: phenn: factoryconnection: It is an expression of hooliganism and bigotry, but there's no institutional nor legal construct behind it. Fun to see that the kids that attacked the Orthodox Jewish man are getting hate crime charges thrown on

True. But, it's unfair for anyone (not you) to purport that whites might be the only racists.

Happy to hear about the hate crime charges. A few people have died because of this 'hooliganism'.

Why is "the media only says whites are racist" such a popular meme among racists?


Because their racism is ok if black people are racist too. It's called "equality" dude.
 
2013-11-25 02:13:20 PM
America is still racist as shiat however to be fair racism flows both ways. For every cracker who flies the confederate flag and dreams of the noose there is a black guy who dreams of ridding every white person as well.

Generally speaking however a black guy's chances of survival is much higher in a 100% white neighborhood than a white guy's chances of survival in a 100% black neighborhood.
 
2013-11-25 02:13:34 PM
"If your daughter was thinking of marrying Abraham Lincoln's beard or Satan destroyer of worlds, which would you choose?"
 
2013-11-25 02:13:57 PM
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