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(Boston Herald)   Are Boston taxpayers gullible enough to host the Olympics?   (bostonherald.com) divider line 60
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2013-11-25 11:27:14 AM
One can only hope.
 
2013-11-25 11:32:32 AM
One need only look to London 2012 to see that sometimes the value of hosting the Olympics goes beyond the simply monetary. For Britons, the Olympics was  amazing.
 
2013-11-25 11:44:43 AM
why not make it a New England olympics?  probably have enough facilities in the region already.
 
2013-11-25 11:46:13 AM
It's more of a question of whether the Legislature collectively has enough nephews who run contracting companies to get paid even after the IOC and its wheelbarrow are sated
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-11-25 11:47:48 AM
BOSTON!


www.boston.com
 
2013-11-25 12:52:47 PM
Depends. Do the Olympics drive a truck?
 
2013-11-25 01:09:35 PM
I shudder to think of the traffic on the pike and 95 during the Olympics.

/God forbid you even think about Storrow Drive
 
2013-11-25 01:09:36 PM
The olympics are awesome, it would be nice to go.  But we don't need more debt and we certainly can't have an Olympic Committee or Olympic judges around here competing with our existing corruption.  Take that shiat to Chicago or DC.
 
2013-11-25 01:14:44 PM
New events to include competitive summering?
 
2013-11-25 01:15:45 PM
No just no. I'm still waiting for the green line in Union Square. Last year was the 40th anniversary of the proposed green line to Union Square connection.
 
2013-11-25 01:17:16 PM
They kept Ted Kennedy around until he passed. They helped pay for the big dig. Why would this phase them?
 
2013-11-25 01:28:25 PM
If this doesn't get the Green Line extended past Lechmere, nothing will
 
2013-11-25 01:28:58 PM
You don't host the Olympics to make a profit on it. You go into it basically expecting to take a financial bath, but being able to say forever afterward that your city hosted the Olympics.

And the other thing: you have to win them first. If the IOC hears too much griping from your city about how much it's going to cost, they're just going to skip you over and award the Olympics to someone who doesn't give a shiat how much it costs. The Olympics don't go where they're not wanted, and if they find they're not wanted when they get there, don't expect them to come back. Big Dig comparisons will absolutely be enough for the IOC to tell Boston to go fark itself.
 
2013-11-25 01:38:37 PM
Ugh, holding the Olympics in Boston would be a disaster. Where would they propose building any new structures like stadiums, hotels, etc.? Down in Southie by the convention center? Not really a pretty or accessible part of the city. Let's not even get started on the driving and public transit situation. That would really be the only plus to hosting the Olympics. It would force the city to improve public transportation at a faster rate. It would be great for a year until they realize there is no money left.
 
2013-11-25 01:39:02 PM
How about we just do WrestleMania again?
 
2013-11-25 01:40:18 PM
Today, the Olympics go to some backwater underdeveloped nowheresville, then big construction companies come in, make billions of dollars on these projects, and then tear them all down when it's over. And IOC folks get their beaks wet every single step of the way. If your town could host the Olympics next week w/ little fuss, you're not a viable candidate, b/c there's nowhere to graft.
 
2013-11-25 01:41:51 PM

ActionJoe: Ugh, holding the Olympics in Boston would be a disaster. Where would they propose building any new structures like stadiums, hotels, etc.? Down in Southie by the convention center? Not really a pretty or accessible part of the city. Let's not even get started on the driving and public transit situation. That would really be the only plus to hosting the Olympics. It would force the city to improve public transportation at a faster rate. It would be great for a year until they realize there is no money left.


B-b-but the red line is going to be adding brand new subway cars coming soon!*

*If you define soon as the end of 2015
 
2013-11-25 01:45:29 PM

ActionJoe: Ugh, holding the Olympics in Boston would be a disaster.


To be fair, you'd be hard pressed to find a city anywhere that has the existing infrastructure for locals to think "pfft, sure, we can handle it easily"

I live 3,000 miles away now, so, if Boston really wants to host them, okay, sure. Not my problem anymore.
 
2013-11-25 01:45:31 PM

Klivian: ActionJoe: Ugh, holding the Olympics in Boston would be a disaster. Where would they propose building any new structures like stadiums, hotels, etc.? Down in Southie by the convention center? Not really a pretty or accessible part of the city. Let's not even get started on the driving and public transit situation. That would really be the only plus to hosting the Olympics. It would force the city to improve public transportation at a faster rate. It would be great for a year until they realize there is no money left.

B-b-but the red line is going to be adding brand new subway cars coming soon!*

*If you define soon as the end of 2015


The Red Line is a great way to commute.
 
2013-11-25 01:45:58 PM
Why don't they just pick some place in Nebraska or las pampas.

Build an olympics city and host the olympics there every time.  They can do all of the stupid world championships there too.
 
2013-11-25 01:47:13 PM

Rincewind53: One need only look to London 2012 to see that sometimes the value of hosting the Olympics goes beyond the simply monetary. For Britons, the Olympics was  amazing.


Yeah, but '84 was even better. It made a boatload of money (the only profitable Olympics in modern history) and made people feel good.

LA did really well because they had venues (by 1984 standards) that were already in place that were mostly world class at the time. And really, there are places now that are even better than in '84 (aside from Track and Field).
 
2013-11-25 01:50:51 PM
Fark you Boston. You managed to screw up the Big Dig so badly that other cities will never get the big infrastructure rebuilds that are needed.
 
2013-11-25 01:52:58 PM

MugzyBrown: They can do all of the stupid world championships there too.


They could host the World Series of Stupid there too! I love this idea.
 
2013-11-25 01:57:17 PM
I can't wait for the attendant news story of some poor foreigner from East Tajikistan getting lost in Boston and ending up on Roxbury. That'll be fun.
 
2013-11-25 02:01:50 PM

mjohnson71: Fark you Boston. You managed to screw up the Big Dig so badly that other cities will never get the big infrastructure rebuilds that are needed.


You never drove in Boston before, during, and/or after the Big Dig, did you? It was needed. Sorely.
 
2013-11-25 02:03:42 PM
They should host the games in the same stadiums they already spent billions to build. Just cycle between 4 locations (1 on each major continent) and re-use the venues
 
2013-11-25 02:09:18 PM

soopey: mjohnson71: Fark you Boston. You managed to screw up the Big Dig so badly that other cities will never get the big infrastructure rebuilds that are needed.

You never drove in Boston before, during, and/or after the Big Dig, did you? It was needed. Sorely.


I never said is wasn't needed. But 10 times the initial cost, mountains of corruption and other issues means other cities that need the same help won't get it.

(Though Seattle is finally getting their Alaska Way Viaduct/Tunnel project.)
 
2013-11-25 02:34:55 PM

punkwrestler: No just no. I'm still waiting for the green line in Union Square. Last year was the 40th anniversary of the proposed green line to Union Square connection.


Transit improvements are likely to be the best and longest lasting infrastructure improvements to come out of the Olympics.
 
2013-11-25 02:42:13 PM

soopey: I can't wait for the attendant news story of some poor foreigner from East Tajikistan getting lost in Boston and ending up on Roxbury. That'll be fun.


He'll be the Tajik who never returned.
 
2013-11-25 02:45:30 PM
Yes. Red Sox fans still buy Ortiz's excuse that he didn't actually test positive for steroids and they did elect a drunk Kennedy how many times?
 
2013-11-25 02:51:20 PM

machoprogrammer: Yes. Red Sox fans still buy Ortiz's excuse that he didn't actually test positive for steroids and they did elect a drunk Kennedy how many times?


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2013-11-25 02:51:38 PM

dywed88: Transit improvements are likely to be the best and longest lasting infrastructure improvements to come out of the Olympics.


Yes, I expect we'll get a high-speed monorail from North Station to the Aquatics Center in Billerica, and some new signage for the Silver Line to the Airport.
 
2013-11-25 02:56:58 PM
I wouldn't put it past Boston to enter a bid just to rub it in NYC's collective face.
 
2013-11-25 02:58:23 PM

Lost Thought 00: They should host the games in the same stadiums they already spent billions to build. Just cycle between 4 locations (1 on each major continent) and re-use the venues


The only problem is that each Olympics seems to use the incentive that their Athletes' Village will become low cost housing after the games are over.  When they were talking about the very small possibility that Vancouver could host the 2014 Winter Olympics if Sochi couldn't deliver, the one major obstacle would be we have nowhere to house the athletes.  The condos are now inhabited by big shots like Chip Wilson and by the down trodden in subsidized housing, and I can't see them giving up their digs for a few months without a large cash incentive.
 
2013-11-25 03:07:59 PM
Hell no. Let the Massachusetts politicians extend the Green line and fix other T problems, fix all these bridges and highway infrastructure that needs fixing (hello Big Dig tunnel), and maybe spend time on planning things like more affordable housing in Boston. Some other city can take a bath on hosting the Olympics.

Or they can use the money to help finally tear town all the tolls on the Mass Pike, because the bonds were paid off years ago.
 
2013-11-25 03:11:54 PM

mjohnson71: Fark you Boston. You managed to screw up the Big Dig so badly that other cities will never get the big infrastructure rebuilds that are needed.


I think you mean "thank you"
While the end result is better travel into and through the city from 3 directions, the inability of politicians, unions, & construction conglomerates to do a job and not milk it for labor and kickbacks while using the absolute worst materials and processes cost lives and tens of billions of dollars in excess of the budget.  This example should save those tens of billions for other cities in the process, including whichever city you live in / near.  Unless your city is 1950's Milwaukee.
 
2013-11-25 03:22:28 PM

Robo Beat: I wouldn't put it past Boston to enter a bid just to rub it in NYC's collective face.


As a New Yorker, let me just say that we have enough asshole tourists to deal with, thanks.

/including Bostonians, because fark you.
//how the fark is a Citgo sign a goddamned landmark in your town?
 
2013-11-25 03:24:34 PM
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2013-11-25 03:29:20 PM

machoprogrammer: Yes. Red Sox fans still buy Ortiz's excuse that he didn't actually test positive for steroids and they did elect a drunk Kennedy how many times?


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2013-11-25 03:30:08 PM

mainstreet62: //how the fark is a Citgo sign a goddamned landmark in your town?


www.gagarigs.com

Same shiat.
 
2013-11-25 03:38:42 PM

Gunny Highway: mainstreet62: //how the fark is a Citgo sign a goddamned landmark in your town?

[www.gagarigs.com image 500x365]

Same shiat.


Except the entire universe wants to visit Times Square once and get awkwardly handed brochures for the nearest strip club..

Your sign is for gasoline from a country with a dictator that hates the US.
 
2013-11-25 03:41:35 PM

mainstreet62: Gunny Highway: mainstreet62: //how the fark is a Citgo sign a goddamned landmark in your town?

[www.gagarigs.com image 500x365]

Same shiat.

Except the entire universe wants to visit Times Square once and get awkwardly handed brochures for the nearest strip club..

Your sign is for gasoline from a country with a dictator that hates the US.


Oh, yes of course.
 
2013-11-25 03:54:08 PM

mainstreet62: //how the fark is a Citgo sign a goddamned landmark in your town?


That you can't even see from the ballpark anymore.
 
2013-11-25 03:58:14 PM

mainstreet62: [boston vs nyc roads image 599x721]


Think of it as two different mental challenges for the population. In New York, the pee-brained inhabitants need only a rudimentary grasp on math to get from point A to B.

The glorious genius folk of the greater Boston area need to solve an N>30 traveling salesman problem instantly in order to turn left from Boylston St. onto Charles St.
 
2013-11-25 04:08:31 PM

MugzyBrown: Why don't they just pick some place in Nebraska or las pampas.

Build an olympics city and host the olympics there every time.  They can do all of the stupid world championships there too.


I would choose one of the Azores because islands are cool.
 
2013-11-25 04:13:37 PM

soopey: mainstreet62: [boston vs nyc roads image 599x721]

Think of it as two different mental challenges for the population. In New York, the pee-brained inhabitants need only a rudimentary grasp on math to get from point A to B.

The glorious genius folk of the greater Boston area need to solve an N>30 traveling salesman problem instantly in order to turn left from Boylston St. onto Charles St.


Boston is easy... Get onto Storrow drive. Then take the exit for Mass ave, and take a left onto Mass ave for 1/4 mile.


Congratulations, you live in Boston now. There is no way you will ever leave. At least not today.
 
2013-11-25 04:13:59 PM
All they have to do is wrap this up in a big "Boston Strong" banner, and the bozos will support it.
 
2013-11-25 04:15:26 PM

MugzyBrown: Why don't they just pick some place in Nebraska or las pampas.

Build an olympics city and host the olympics there every time.  They can do all of the stupid world championships there too.


There's a lot of infrastructure involved, and it wouldn't be used most of the year. I don't think you could justify building basically a city just for the Olympics. Random WCs wouldn't justify it. Who even knows when the last Track and Field championships were?
There is one place that I think makes a lot of sense: Las Vegas. Not too dense, relatively speaking, plenty of hotels, and if you somehow run out of hookers you can bus more in from LA. You really just need a world class stadium and a few arenas, and that shouldn't be too hard. Look at the shiat that already gets built there.
Unfortunately, the IOC likes to keep its corruption on the down low, and Vegas might make that a problem. So they won't even be considered.
 
2013-11-25 04:15:31 PM
How have people not realized yet that the Olympics is a global circle jerk of bribery and grift?
 
2013-11-25 04:17:49 PM

EyeballKid: How have people not realized yet that the Olympics is a global circle jerk of bribery and grift?


Sounds perfect for Boston.
 
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