If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Mirror.co.uk)   New video shows cyclists how dangerous heavy trucks are, warns that they could be held liable for any flat tires or damage real vehicles might suffer if they ran over a carbon fibre race bike with a Spandex-clad stick insect attached to the pedals   (mirror.co.uk) divider line 51
    More: Amusing, lorry driver, flat tires, radiation damages, Transport for London, trucks  
•       •       •

4682 clicks; posted to Main » on 25 Nov 2013 at 11:25 AM (20 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



51 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

First | « | 1 | 2 | » | Last | Show all
 
2013-11-25 11:31:42 AM
Bike riders are the biggest group of dumbasses on the road.

CSB:
My main route into work is a long country road.  Straight as an arrow, 45 mph, ZERO shoulder, 3-6' deep drainage ditches on each side, heavy car and truck traffic.  On top of that, most people tend to go 10-20 above the limit.

And you still have spandex clad bike riders on this road.  Even ignoring the excessive speeding, this is NOT a safe road to ride a bike on.  Very surprised there's not more fatalities (either by bike riders being hit or shot).
 
2013-11-25 11:32:43 AM
The article should have just linked to this:
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/how-to-adjust-your-mirrors-to-a vo id-blind-spots

Problem solved.  The Lorry driver really doesn't need to watch the side of his truck all day...
 
2013-11-25 11:33:05 AM

Cycling?? Ready for the thread!



i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-25 11:35:16 AM
Wow, you mean large vehicles tend to have large blind spots? WHO KNEW?

Oh wait, I did, because my motorcycle training course covers that. Cyclists that ride on the road should be similarly trained and licensed. Want to share the road? Obey the rules. Otherwise, GTFO.
 
2013-11-25 11:35:34 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Bike riders are the biggest group of dumbasses on the road


I like it how they think that stop signs and red lights are merely suggestions and not rules.
 
2013-11-25 11:35:34 AM

Dirty Doug: The article should have just linked to this:
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/how-to-adjust-your-mirrors-to-a vo id-blind-spots

Problem solved.  The Lorry driver really doesn't need to watch the side of his truck all day...


In the video the lorry driver has already started the turn, so his mirrors are angled towards the truck a lot more than they would be during normal driving.
 
2013-11-25 11:36:13 AM
You're supposed to draft the truck, in yous small ring. Then the driver will hand-signal every 10mph of speed gained.
 
2013-11-25 11:36:31 AM

Maud Dib: Cycling?? Ready for the thread!

[i.imgur.com image 500x235]


You know, if we could get an article that combines cycling, raw milk, vaccines, Sarah Palin, and Jews all into one thread, it would be epic.
 
2013-11-25 11:37:39 AM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-11-25 11:39:18 AM
Isn't the bottom bubble mirror so you can see a little behind the back of the truck?  Isn't the long tall one for seeing down the side?  If so, why in the video is it pointed so far in that you can only see the front of the truck.

I get the need for cyclists to understand blind spots, but at least be honest about them.  Here's the simple rule, if you can't see the driver's face in the mirror, they can't see you.

Also, if it's that big a concern, why not license cyclists?  There's no problem here that can't be solved with a good, motorcycle style, defensive riding safety class.  Take the class, pass the test, operate your vehicle on public roads.
 
2013-11-25 11:39:59 AM
I don't hate cyclists, I just have a problem rooting for someone wearing spandex pants.
 
2013-11-25 11:43:50 AM
In this picture, Mrs. Bj Smegmer of number 12, the crescent, Belmont cannot be seen.

Mrs. Smegmer, would you stand up?

*Boom*

This demonstrates the value of not being seen.
 
2013-11-25 11:46:02 AM

Skarekrough: I don't hate cyclists, I just have a problem rooting for someone wearing spandex pants.


If ya wear spandex anyplace other than a gym ya better have a superpower.
 
2013-11-25 11:46:33 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Maud Dib: Cycling?? Ready for the thread!

[i.imgur.com image 500x235]

You know, if we could get an article that combines cycling, raw milk, vaccines, Sarah Palin, and Jews all into one thread, it would be epic.


WHAR BIRF CERTIFICATE, WHAR?
 
2013-11-25 11:49:05 AM
I'm always amazed at how many drivers (bike/car/hoverboards) don't give trucks more space/caution.
 
2013-11-25 11:56:14 AM
Video of nonmoving truck and nonmoving bicycles?  Why video ?
 
2013-11-25 11:56:14 AM
Target Builder
In the video the lorry driver has already started the turn, so his mirrors are angled towards the truck a lot more than they would be during normal driving.


That's the only somewhat interesting thing from the link because it differs from other large vehicles which are rigid and don't bend somewhere.
It's obvious when you think about it, but I don't think I ever had to.
 
2013-11-25 11:58:02 AM
a841-tfpweb.nyc.gov

I saw one arrive directly through a guys femur on 49 and Broadway last week. The cyclist going through the red light was very sorry.

This bike sharing thing was poorly thought through.
 
2013-11-25 11:59:27 AM
I don't think I like this plan. I will have to find myself some new entertainment to read if cyclists stop getting themselves killed in stupid ways. Those are some of my favorite feel-good stories!
 
2013-11-25 12:00:36 PM

Ker_Thwap: I'm always amazed at how many drivers (bike/car/hoverboards) don't give trucks more space/caution.


You'd be amazed how many people fall for the "if I can see it, it can see me" fallacy. It's like peek-a-boo, but in reverse.
Personally, I think that a personal understanding of this should be part of the driver's license test. Yeah you have the diagram with the triangles showing blindspots, but you don't UNDERSTAND it until you experience it.

No matter what you drive, part of the test should be jumping into the driver's seat of a parked semi, so you understand how it feels to see only by mirrors.
 
2013-11-25 12:03:13 PM

foxy_canuck: Isn't the bottom bubble mirror so you can see a little behind the back of the truck?  Isn't the long tall one for seeing down the side?  If so, why in the video is it pointed so far in that you can only see the front of the truck.

I get the need for cyclists to understand blind spots, but at least be honest about them.  Here's the simple rule, if you can't see the driver's face in the mirror, they can't see you.

Also, if it's that big a concern, why not license cyclists?  There's no problem here that can't be solved with a good, motorcycle style, defensive riding safety class.  Take the class, pass the test, operate your vehicle on public roads.


Well first as it was pointed out, the mirrors are very poorly adjusted for the camera's point of view.

Second. The tall mirror is for seeing things that are located in the lane next to you. The convex mirror is for seeing in the other lane or giving some view of the first lane if you're doing a soft turn. It also helps seeing things located between the door and the drive wheels.

American trucks also come with nose mirrors to see things between the door and the nose.

This is all dependent on being well adjusted, but on the passenger side since the mirrors are far it's very difficult to see small things - especially if they don't have lights.

You cannot see directly behind you. A car is invisible for about 10 meters/yards. Pedestrians are DUMB - I've had some cross behind me while I'm backing up. When the truck is angled over 20 degrees with the trailer the mirrors become essentially non functional.

Driving a tractor-trailer is similar to the joke of elephants being afraid of mice, but for different reasons.
 
2013-11-25 12:11:29 PM
And that's just pedal cyclists-how about them crotch rockets, the sport motorcyclist?
 
2013-11-25 12:11:44 PM
Whoever set up the mirrors is a dumbass.  Same mirror set on a bus, and I sure as hell could see people in the same position as those bikers.
 
2013-11-25 12:20:54 PM
Ohhh... a cycling troll thread. We should have a "I have a right to drive 60 in the left lane" thread too. Let's grab all of the low hanging fruit!
 
2013-11-25 12:25:34 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Bike riders are the biggest group of dumbasses on the road.

CSB:
My main route into work is a long country road.  Straight as an arrow, 45 mph, ZERO shoulder, 3-6' deep drainage ditches on each side, heavy car and truck traffic.  On top of that, most people tend to go 10-20 above the limit.

And you still have spandex clad bike riders on this road.  Even ignoring the excessive speeding, this is NOT a safe road to ride a bike on.  Very surprised there's not more fatalities (either by bike riders being hit or shot).


How do you know it's Spandex? Did you check the label while you were on your knees?
 
2013-11-25 12:36:13 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: How do you know it's Spandex? Did you check the label while you were on your knees?


Ah, we just had our first cyclist enter the thread. 

Hello, sweetie.
 
2013-11-25 12:40:03 PM
The truck is turning left from a right-hand lane. That's a violation of traffic law, but I'll cut him some slack and assume he has to do that to make the tight turn. But any cyclist that pulls up that close on the inside arc of a semi that is obviously making a turn deserves to get run over.

(Assuming the truck driver had his turn signal on before he started the turn. If he just started a turn that would cut into an adjacent travel lane without giving any signal, fark him right in the ear.)

/cyclist
 
2013-11-25 12:43:07 PM

Ishidan: And that's just pedal cyclists-how about them crotch rockets, the sport motorcyclist?


The difference is that learning about the blind spots of large vehicles is part of the Motorcycle Safety Foundation course that (most) motorcyclists take before getting licensed. Any motorcyclist riding in the blind spots of an 18-wheeler knows exactly what they're doing. In no uncertain terms, they're an idiot. Or, they didn't take the course, in which case they're still probably an idiot.

Bicyclists could be excused for not knowing where the blind spots of a truck are, since they're completely unregulated - which needs to change.
 
2013-11-25 12:50:32 PM
Cities need more rails to trails!

I have no more desire to ride my bike around a bunch of distracted motorists eating and dicking with their cell phones, than they have in sharing the road with a cyclist. Even though I obey all traffic laws on my bike, stopped drivers simply can't estimate my speed or are unable to see my smaller silhouette sometimes.

Moved to Durham, NC and a ton of old railroad beds have been paved and allow me to move around on my bike without dealing with angry drivers. Problem solved.
 
2013-11-25 12:51:55 PM

Uzzah: The truck is turning left from a right-hand lane. That's a violation of traffic law, but I'll cut him some slack and assume he has to do that to make the tight turn. But any cyclist that pulls up that close on the inside arc of a semi that is obviously making a turn deserves to get run over.

(Assuming the truck driver had his turn signal on before he started the turn. If he just started a turn that would cut into an adjacent travel lane without giving any signal, fark him right in the ear.)

/cyclist


To make a turn, a tractor trailer needs 4 lanes : the one you start in, the one you're going to and 2 more somewhere. By virtue of that notion trucks are allowed and obligated to ignore traffic directions. That includes driving in the opposite direction (I do this frequently)

This is the single biggest issue in city driving.
 
2013-11-25 01:09:29 PM
There's usually 26-27 ton of limestone in my dry bulk trailer. I refer to bicycle riders as "crunchies"
 
2013-11-25 01:14:51 PM
"Do you know how much damage this lorry would sustain if I just let it roll over you?"

I don't get road rage against cyclists very often, but it seems to be getting worse since they passed a "3-foot cushion" law here, and the cyclists seem to think that invokes some kind of force field. I nearly didn't see one the other day at dusk, but couldn't get to him to try to tell him his headlight was not on, and his rear "strobe" LED was dying.
 
2013-11-25 01:27:49 PM

Pangea: Cities need more rails to trails!

I have no more desire to ride my bike around a bunch of distracted motorists eating and dicking with their cell phones, than they have in sharing the road with a cyclist. Even though I obey all traffic laws on my bike, stopped drivers simply can't estimate my speed or are unable to see my smaller silhouette sometimes.

Moved to Durham, NC and a ton of old railroad beds have been paved and allow me to move around on my bike without dealing with angry drivers. Problem solved.


I would love this. Hell, I'd like a small trail next to a working railroad.  Might even be able to bike to work.

As it stands now, no farkin way am I getting on the road at rush hour. I'd be a statistic in under a month.
 
2013-11-25 01:41:07 PM

darkjezter: Satanic_Hamster: Bike riders are the biggest group of dumbasses on the road

I like it how they think that stop signs and red lights are merely suggestions and not rules.


GDI that pisses me off. Was on a group ride a couple months ago and 4 or 5 riders in front of me blow through a stop sign. Me and the guy next to me are yelling at them at the top of our lungs, "THE STOP SIGN MEANS YOU STOP!!!"

I'll roll through a stop sign on a bike in the same fashion I will in a car, but these idiots didn't even look or slow down.
 
2013-11-25 01:42:39 PM

Launch Code: There's usually 26-27 ton of limestone in my dry bulk trailer. I refer to bicycle riders as "crunchies"


Yeah, 'cause you're totally killing like a several of them every week, right? Cool.
 
2013-11-25 01:53:00 PM

darkjezter: I like it how they think that stop signs and red lights are merely suggestions and not rules.



Yeah, I hate how car drivers think that stop signs and red lights are merely suggestions too.
 
2013-11-25 02:35:35 PM

MithrandirBooga: darkjezter: I like it how they think that stop signs and red lights are merely suggestions and not rules.


Yeah, I hate how car drivers think that stop signs and red lights are merely suggestions too.


We learned it from you, dad.
 
2013-11-25 02:44:13 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Quantum Apostrophe: How do you know it's Spandex? Did you check the label while you were on your knees?

Ah, we just had our first cyclist enter the thread.

Hello, sweetie.


Hey big guy, I've always fantasized about angry obese middle-aged sex. Your place or mine?
 
2013-11-25 02:48:30 PM

waterrockets: You're supposed to draft the truck, in yous small ring. Then the driver will hand-signal every 10mph of speed gained.


nolasocialride.org
 
2013-11-25 02:58:27 PM

walstib: waterrockets: You're supposed to draft the truck, in yous small ring. Then the driver will hand-signal every 10mph of speed gained.

[nolasocialride.org image 468x215]


finally (I'm not crazy)

Well, maybe I am/was. Actually, this is me several years ago. Concerns me more that someone was taking a phone image of me while driving than the fact that I'm drafting a truck at 58mph. Photo showed up on FB, and a friend recognized my kit... and the fact that I draft trucks, and tagged me:

img696.imageshack.us
 
2013-11-25 03:16:42 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Bike riders are the biggest group of dumbasses on the road.


No need to worry, for you there is "Cyclists Deaths: How many more cyclists must die before urgent changes are made to eliminate the danger presented by lorries?" (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/cyclist-deaths-how-many-need-27 94 043) and this particular video is quite old, I'm sure there are plenty of new things for you to get angry about. Dangerous drivers are easy to spot.
 
2013-11-25 03:44:40 PM

MithrandirBooga: darkjezter: I like it how they think that stop signs and red lights are merely suggestions and not rules.


Yeah, I hate how car drivers think that stop signs and red lights are merely suggestions too.


It's hard to see the cyclist's signals as he cuts across five lanes of traffic going the wrong way at night with black clothes on into a blind intersection through a red light.
 
2013-11-25 04:06:58 PM

waterrockets: walstib: waterrockets: You're supposed to draft the truck, in yous small ring. Then the driver will hand-signal every 10mph of speed gained.

[nolasocialride.org image 468x215]

finally (I'm not crazy)

Well, maybe I am/was. Actually, this is me several years ago. Concerns me more that someone was taking a phone image of me while driving than the fact that I'm drafting a truck at 58mph. Photo showed up on FB, and a friend recognized my kit... and the fact that I draft trucks, and tagged me:

[img696.imageshack.us image 453x604]


If that is actually you, what you're doing is incredibly dangerous and you're not helping the rest of us.

An empty dump truck could drop 10-15 miles per hour almost immediately if he slammed on his brakes.

Good luck.
 
2013-11-25 04:31:53 PM

Pangea: waterrockets: walstib: waterrockets: You're supposed to draft the truck, in yous small ring. Then the driver will hand-signal every 10mph of speed gained.

[nolasocialride.org image 468x215]

finally (I'm not crazy)

Well, maybe I am/was. Actually, this is me several years ago. Concerns me more that someone was taking a phone image of me while driving than the fact that I'm drafting a truck at 58mph. Photo showed up on FB, and a friend recognized my kit... and the fact that I draft trucks, and tagged me:

[img696.imageshack.us image 453x604]

If that is actually you, what you're doing is incredibly dangerous and you're not helping the rest of us.

An empty dump truck could drop 10-15 miles per hour almost immediately if he slammed on his brakes.

Good luck.


But then his injury/death would be his own damn fault and nobody would care. Personally, it makes me want to get a road bike. If I go 25 mph in top gear my legs evaporate into a blur.
 
2013-11-25 04:34:27 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Satanic_Hamster: Quantum Apostrophe: How do you know it's Spandex? Did you check the label while you were on your knees?

Ah, we just had our first cyclist enter the thread.

Hello, sweetie.

Hey big guy, I've always fantasized about angry obese middle-aged sex. Your place or mine?


That's right, sweetie.  Every person who thinks people who ride bikes on high ways are all fat middle aged guys who drive suv's/trucks.

You caught me.  You caught the tater.
 
2013-11-25 09:12:45 PM

Alexei Novikov: Wow, you mean large vehicles tend to have large blind spots? WHO KNEW?

Oh wait, I did, because my motorcycle training course covers that. Cyclists that ride on the road should be similarly trained and licensed. Want to share the road? Obey the rules. Otherwise, GTFO.


Thats something I dont understand.  I need a license to operate my motorcycle on a public street but a bicyclist doesn't.  Both bikes and motorcycles can speed, run stop signs, kill people when they hit them etc...
 
2013-11-25 11:11:47 PM
I give bikers room, because they can stop faster than me.  Give trucks room, because they can't see you.
 
2013-11-25 11:42:14 PM
Here subby, these are for you (apologies if you're not a straight male)
img.fark.net
img.fark.net
img.fark.net
 
2013-11-26 02:44:58 AM
And in other news (go to 1:40 on the clip):

Link
 
2013-11-26 10:33:29 AM
Pangea:
If that is actually you, what you're doing is incredibly dangerous and you're not helping the rest of us.

An empty dump truck could drop 10-15 miles per hour almost immediately if he slammed on his brakes.

Good luck.


Yeah, I got praise from surrounding drivers and the truck driver at the next light. Truck brakes, I swerve right.

I can't draft an empty dump truck, as they can accelerate too fast.

I don't do this too often these days, but I've been motorpacing for 20 years and never had any sort of close calls, I come out every couple seconds to look around, etc. We used to bump-check the team van, and he'd brake check a bit as a prank too, causing contact. Ran black marks all over the rear bumper, and used to paint it with tire rubber when slowing, trying to make new patterns. Anyhoo, I never recommend that anyone tries it, and don't claim it to be safe.

That said, I stop at all red lights and stop signs, and wait my place in heavy traffic if there's no bike lane or shoulder. I signal turns, and I pull off the road if I'm on that rare ride with no shoulder in light traffic when cars are stuck behind me (one route I ride has a 1/4 mile section like this, and I always let the cars past asap).
 
Displayed 50 of 51 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report