Diogenes: Right there with him. We need to complete the sale on grandma's house this week or we can't pay for her care next month. Her mind is gone, too. It kills me to see her like this.
edmo: These laws exist because others feel they must protects us as judged against their morals = religious meddling.Don't get me started how they'll fund this endlessly but not some poor person who needs health care.
NewportBarGuy: Is he talking about hospice care? Because that is some painful sh*t to go through for everyone involved.
keithgabryelski: I don't agree with a lot of what scott adams has to say, but i feel for his loss and the pain he and his family has gone through because of puritan ideals of life and the choices humans are allowed to make.he gets a pass on the frothing "fark all politicians that voted against euthanasia -- i want to watch you die" for the time being. But this seems just like a of people's inability to empathize with others until the subject hits directly home.
The My Little Pony Killer: I agree with him about doctor-assisted suicide being legal, but did he ever take a second to consider what his father wanted?Sorry for your loss and all, but you still come across as a selfish douchebag.
Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Good for Scott. The law that lets us end the suffering of a dog but not a human is unjust, inhuman, and violates the establishment clause by using the government to promote a religious idea that we must suffer because God wants us to suffer and our suffering is holy. fark that.And if anyone hasn't seen it, Choosing to Die with Terry Pratchett does an amazing job discussing the implications of physician-assisted suicide.
fusillade762: Story makes me glad I live in a state where physician-assisted suicide is legal.
hubiestubert: Sadly, the folks he most wants to reach, and who most need to be reached, won't be, because for them, it's a crusade that has nothing to do with life or people, it has to do with votes and money. It's about putting themselves in power, in putting themselves between folks and doing much of anything. They want the gub'ment out of their lives, but for damn sure in the lives of others. It's not about the sanctity of life, because they don't want a life that is sacred, but a life that serves a purpose, and that purpose is to be a symbol.These are folks who want children who suffer. Who want children born into poverty, and unable to escape it. They want folks to grow up, and keep quiet. They want to armor themselves against they tyranny of the majority, they want to armor themselves against other folks' beliefs, they want to armor themselves against anyone assailing the walls of comfort that they build for themselves, and damned if they aren't good at getting folks to vote against their own interests, and call it "freedom." They want people who shut up, do what they're told, pay, and pay for the rest of their lives, and who won't question it. These are folks who wish the the Heavens that they could just give most of the populace a lobotomy and keep them quiet, and continue dumping cash into their laps, and they don't care about the quality of life, they don't care about the conditions, just keep paying for the quality of life for them, and theirs, and the less educated, the less informed, the less invested in the system, the better. These are folks who like to talk about how much they care, and all they care about is the power that comes from the position. They want the authority over telling others how to live their lives, and to be insulated from anything that might impact their own comfort and position. They want to be known for their moral superiority, and they want, more than anything, to undercut anything that might refute their claims. The media has to be gutted ...
hubiestubert: The My Little Pony Killer: I agree with him about doctor-assisted suicide being legal, but did he ever take a second to consider what his father wanted?Sorry for your loss and all, but you still come across as a selfish douchebag.This is why my daughter and the girl critter know exactly how I feel about this sort of thing.When I had my little "accident" that blew out my aorta like a bad seal, my girlfriend was there right beside me. She was instrumental in me holding on, and fighting on. I got better, but for a while, it was dicey. Especially before I realized that I was on a spinal block. For what seemed an eternity, I couldn't move, I was being breathed for by a machine, and the only way I could communicate was with the barest of squeezes from my hands, and it was terrifying. Terrifying to think that it was going to be that way for the rest of my days. I got better. I recovered, and I understand the implications that just because someone is in bad shape one week, that it isn't a guarantee that will be the case forever. It's important to discuss these matters BEFORE things get dicey. So that your loved ones can make informed choices, to carry out your wishes, before you're in a position where you can't communicate them. Living wills, and your loved ones knowing your care options and your feeling upon those options, is important.I don't go down easy. I've been written off far too many times, and gotten back up and walked away from way too many situations where I've been told that I can't expect to have any sort of life worth living. My own doctor told me after the aneurysm, that I'd be lucky to make 6 months. That was 15 years ago. I was told that I couldn't expect a year, then two, then five, then ten, and now my doctors sort of just let me do my thing, because I've beaten all their projections, and stomped them into the ground, and I started off doing exactly that by surviving an aortic dissection for 40 minutes BEFORE getting to the hospital, and most folks die, even with EMS, within the first 20. That was with a torn ascending aorta, and the valve attached being ripped nearly in two. Let's not even get into the accidents and other assorted calamities that I've had occur over the years, including getting stabbed at the club. I know the value of NOT simply accepting a diagnosis and lying down and shutting the Hells up. And my loved ones know that I'm not going to simply accept such a thing. But there comes a time, when I'm NOT in there, when the anima has checked out, and the meat doesn't quite figure out to shut off the lights after I leave, they are likewise aware of how I want them to deal with things.I think the assessment of Adams being selfish is premature. It comes from a place of rage, and loss, and grief, and the anger in his statement is entirely natural. That rage is not just the rage of loss of a parent, but the loss of a parent in pain and suffering mightily. I give him a pass on that, because there's a lot going on behind the scenes on this tiny page.
neilbradley: My dad died in May of this year at 87, and was COPD. He was basically tripping for the last 2-3 weeks due to low oxygenation in his blood. He wanted to die, but had no viable means to end it sooner, so he basically starved himself.Anyone who isn't fully behind "death with dignity" can fark right off. No one should have to be put through suffering because of your f'd up religions beliefs.
timelady: As someone with severe chronic pain that is going to get worse, and the associated mobility issues that are going with it, I would like to politely say the same as Scott Adams. I want to make my own damn choices. I have a living will and power of attorney vested with my loved ones who will respect it. I am also careful to make sure I have options - I just hope I am able to use them. Quite honestly, the decision to choose to die when I choose has been very liberating, and has made me determined to live as richly and as fully as I can as long as I can (have quality). Not the opposite. Unlike those pious sanctimonious freaks who cry about the bliss of heaven and then would deny people the right to enter when they need to. Bet they don't let their pets suffer. I cannot loather them more, or excoriate them sufficiently. Mind your own beeswax, freaks.
timelady: As someone with severe chronic pain that is going to get worse, and the associated mobility issues that are going with it,
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