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(Fox News)   Indonesia raises volcano alert level to highest, before alert volcano raises Indonesia to highest level   (foxnews.com) divider line 42
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2013-11-24 05:32:42 PM
Much better than all the Cinnabon headlines, subby. Bravo!
 
2013-11-24 05:33:24 PM
Since when has Indonesia ever had to worry about volcanoes?

/krakatoa
 
2013-11-24 05:34:55 PM
Send Al Gore to carbon tax it.

That should shut it up.
 
2013-11-24 05:35:15 PM
Subby, I like it.
 
2013-11-24 05:37:37 PM
www.slate.com
 
2013-11-24 05:38:53 PM
Git too da chappa!!
 
2013-11-24 05:46:34 PM
"We are in a situation of high alert due to the danger of searing gas," Surono said,

Well, there's a simple solution, just close all the Taco Bells.
 
2013-11-24 05:47:43 PM
This is an Eruption Free Zone! So; take your eruption somewhere else, volcano! Also , we have a zero tolerance policy on increased tectonic activity!
 
2013-11-24 05:53:44 PM

germ78: Since when has Indonesia ever had to worry about volcanoes?

/krakatoa


The judges would have also accepted Mount Lake Toba.
 
2013-11-24 05:53:53 PM
Mount Sinabung, eh? Sounds del-

Boojum2k: Much better than all the Cinnabon headlines, subby. Bravo!


...Never mind
 
2013-11-24 05:54:09 PM
Do the scientist go to jail if they are wrong?
 
2013-11-24 05:55:01 PM
once the ring of power melts, it should all calm downimg.fark.net
 
2013-11-24 05:56:14 PM
You should have a look at Java or Sumatra on Google Earth. It's an ash plain dotted with volcanoes the way that Germany is dotted with villages and church bell towers. It is really quite impressive in 3-d.

And Indonesia rivals the USA in population. Although the USA is tops in the number of natural disasters (given the enormous variety of a half-continent), Americans are much richer, better governed, and better equipped to get out of the way. Pop everything into a couple of SUVs and get the Hell out. Wait patiently for the Government to send help a week or two late or pile into rented buses. A couple of thousand deaths is a big farking deal, as Biden would say. Galveston was only about 10,000 people, tops. The destruction of San Francisco was awe-inspiring but what was the population of San Francisco in 1906?

But in Indonesia, you have masses of poor people and a few well-to-do or rich people and hundreds of thousands of people can easily just disappear. But they are so numerous, they keep coming back because that volcanic ash is only deadly for a few weeks, but it is rich and fertile for decades.

What a mad country. 50,000 islands, most of them in peril from man, the sea and the volcanic forces that built them. I expect it to be the next India or China if they straighte out corruption and even if they don't.

Big countries tend to be very exciting places to live. Canada is the only truly dull country of any size in the world. Bless us. We know how lucky we are.

We are lucky enough to be duller than Belgium. At least they get invaded by Germans like clockwork. Unlike Switzerland, which just goes on making the clock-works and other high tech goods, and holding people's coats and purses while they fight each other.

Indonesia is what the US or Canada would be like if some angry gods beat the living shiat out of a continent for a few million years. (Quotable Brantgoose Classic Aphorism)

Cool. Nice place to visit. Wouldn't want to live there.
 
2013-11-24 05:56:21 PM

germ78: Since when has Indonesia ever had to worry about volcanoes?

/krakatoa


Krakatoa was actually the smaller of the famous 19th century Indonesian eruptions--Tambora was much bigger.
 
2013-11-24 05:57:27 PM

Empty H: Do the scientist go to jail if they are wrong?


I think they get thrown into the volcano, state law
 
2013-11-24 05:58:56 PM
"Mount Sinabung in North Sumatra province unleashed fresh volcanic ash and gravel"

Is this the anus where these come from:

pbs.twimg.com

"Cinnabon says it uses Makara cinnamon from Indonesia"
 
2013-11-24 06:00:16 PM

Empty H: Do the scientist go to jail if they are wrong?


Of course not!  Do you think this is some 3rd-world country or something, like Italy?
 
2013-11-24 06:01:34 PM
You betta lava me now or lava me not.
 
2013-11-24 06:22:47 PM
Take a tour of Indonesia on Google Maps some time.  The number and size of the volcano craters is stunning.
 
2013-11-24 06:27:49 PM
FTFA: said a government volcanologist, Surono, who like many Indonesians uses one name

That . . . is actually kinda cool.

/Novel anyway
//To me
///leaving now
 
2013-11-24 06:43:53 PM

bighairyguy: Take a tour of Indonesia on Google Maps some time.  The number and size of the volcano craters is stunning.


This works especially well in "terrain" mode.
 
2013-11-24 07:15:31 PM
Honest question, is there any correlation between earthquakes and past volcanic eruptions?
 
DVD
2013-11-24 07:26:01 PM

sleeps in trees: Honest question, is there any correlation between earthquakes and past volcanic eruptions?



Short uneducated answer:  I'd think there would need to be for two reasons:  One is if a magma pool has push out some of its content, then you have a large void that would cause settling and shifting, and be one reason for aftershocks and such.  Another is that with a fault zone (different than just a hotspot like Hawaii), your earthquakes and volcanos are both probably products of the same root cause.
 
2013-11-24 07:38:14 PM
I am still so angry at Bobby Jindal for causing that other volcano to erupt.
 
2013-11-24 07:39:22 PM

sleeps in trees: Honest question, is there any correlation between earthquakes and past volcanic eruptions?


Depends on the kind of earth quakes. Lava forcing it's way up will cause small earth quakes as rock is displaced. Better than describing it, one can listen to seismic recordings of an earthquake swarm sped 60 times.

The other is a lot of volcano's form as the result of plate tectonics, as one plate gets pushed under another. Friction causes melting under the edge of the plate and lava wells up to form volcano's. And you get huge earthquakes as the fault snaps. But the relation is merely the common cause, one doesn't cause the other. Other volcano's are do to hot spots where lava wells up. Think Hawaii, Yellowstone, etc.
 
2013-11-24 08:03:44 PM
brantgoose:
Indonesia is what the US or Canada would be like if some angry gods beat the living shiat out of a continent for a few million years. (Quotable Brantgoose Classic Aphorism)


i.imgur.com

/holy crap, it's a SFW Oglaf!
 
2013-11-24 08:14:23 PM
It's so important it takes a shiatty "news" outlet like Fox to report it.

Thanks, subby.
 
2013-11-24 09:43:35 PM

whidbey: It's so important it takes a shiatty "news" outlet like Fox to report it.

Thanks, subby.


But they are
fair and balanced,

which come to think of it, is a little redundant
i like Fox news but they gotta work on that
 
2013-11-24 09:51:48 PM

sleeps in trees: Honest question, is there any correlation between earthquakes and past volcanic eruptions?


Yes, but only on a geologic time scale.

Or  yes, but only in the sense that lots of very small powerful earthquakes happen in the hours right before a major eruption.

Neither of those help much, I'm afraid.
 
2013-11-24 10:26:53 PM
As much as Tambora was more powerful, Krakatoa was way more dramatic. From being loud enough to be heard in Australia to giant tsunamis to ashen rain and distorted sunsets. Behold some copypasta:

Krakatoa, when the earth split asunder, cold seawater contacted the red-hot magma, the steam exploded with catastrophic violence, and six cubic miles of rock and ash were hurled more than 20 miles into the stratosphere. An hour after the explosions, as lightning stroboscopically lit up the blackening skies, a thick, muddy rain fell on Batavia (now Jakarta). Broiling-hot debris from the blast, some chunks three feet around, fell over hundreds of square miles. Since the island was uninhabited at the time, nobody on Krakatoa was killed, but giant tsunamis rolled out in all directions, flooding the coasts of Java and Sumatra, submerging nearly 300 towns and villages and killing more than 36,000 people. It was as if a mountain-size red-hot rock had been dropped into the ocean. (Indeed, some 65 million years ago, a mountain-size asteroid slammed into what would later be known as the Yucatan peninsula, where, many scientists believe, it wreaked such ecological havoc that the nonavian dinosaurs disappeared forever.)A 72-foot-high wave engulfed and totally destroyed the town of Telokbetong at the head of Sumatra's Lampong Bay, killing 2,200 people. Water cascaded into the town of Tangerang, and when it swept out again, it carried people, animals, houses and trees. No one expected the waves to return after they had receded. It is likely that many people believed the worst was over and returned to their shoreside villages, only to experience another, more catastrophic, inundation. The town of Merak, which had suffered little damage from the first wave, was destroyed by the second. The huge wave, after traveling at hundreds of miles per hour, entered the narrow bay, and as the shoaling beach slowed down the leading edge of the wave, millions of gallons of water began piling up behind, until the wave reached the astonishing and totally terrifying height of 135 feet, as tall as a 10-story building. This mountain of seething water rolled over Merak, obliterating everything in its path and drowning all but two of its 2,700 inhabitants. Anjer was drowned by a 33-foot wave, and Tyringin, 24 miles from the volcano, was smashed by a 70-foot-high locomotive of roiling water. It was not the lava, noxious gases, flame, smoke or volcanic bombs that destroyed those unfortunate thousands; it was the terrible power of water. In the vast majority of instances death came at the hands of seismic sea waves.To the accompaniment of thunderous explosions, the wave swept around St. Nicholas Point on Java and headed for Batavia, 94 miles from the epicenter. At approximately 12:15 p.m., two hours after the final explosion,
 
2013-11-24 10:37:15 PM

Mister Peejay: brantgoose:
Indonesia is what the US or Canada would be like if some angry gods beat the living shiat out of a continent for a few million years. (Quotable Brantgoose Classic Aphorism)


[i.imgur.com image 760x596]

/holy crap, it's a SFW Oglaf!


Those helmets look kind of iffy to me.
 
2013-11-24 10:56:46 PM

Kevin72: As much as Tambora was more powerful, Krakatoa was way more dramatic


No, it really wasn't.  It was a lot more recent, so there were a lot more westerners around to write gushing descriptions.
 
2013-11-24 10:59:48 PM

verdigris1: whidbey: It's so important it takes a shiatty "news" outlet like Fox to report it.

Thanks, subby.

But they are
fair and balanced,

which come to think of it, is a little redundant
i like Fox news but they gotta work on that


Fair and balanced doesn't refer to the way they report the news, just the physical attributes of their anchors. A lot of people don't know that.
 
2013-11-24 11:02:52 PM
Bravo subby, I'd +1 you if I weren't cheap.
 
2013-11-24 11:56:58 PM
pele is SUCH an attention whore...  *sigh*
 
2013-11-25 01:27:14 AM

Hollie Maea: Kevin72: As much as Tambora was more powerful, Krakatoa was way more dramatic

No, it really wasn't.  It was a lot more recent, so there were a lot more westerners around to write gushing descriptions.


Tambora admittedly was more powerful yes. And had more longterm effect on worldwide weather, OK. But the EVENT was more dramatic on Krakatoa because the 100 foot tsunamis and louder sound. I know someone whose greatgrandfather heard the sound. Its not like Indonesia wasn't the Dutch East Indies also in 1815 and even if it wasn't it wasn't as if a westerner didn't witness something in "Punjabiland" it didn't exist.
 
2013-11-25 04:32:48 AM

DubtodaIll: verdigris1: whidbey: It's so important it takes a shiatty "news" outlet like Fox to report it.

Thanks, subby.

But they are
fair and balanced,

which come to think of it, is a little redundant
i like Fox news but they gotta work on that

Fair and balanced doesn't refer to the way they report the news, just the physical attributes of their anchors. A lot of people don't know that.


I'd wager that many of them have scoliosis.
 
2013-11-25 01:33:11 PM

HairBolus: "Mount Sinabung in North Sumatra province unleashed fresh volcanic ash and gravel"

Is this the anus where these come from:

[pbs.twimg.com image 73x73]

"Cinnabon says it uses Makara cinnamon from Indonesia"


Given that you brought anuses into the equation, I'm reminded of a story spentmiles wrote about his first job working at a Cinnabon store.
 
2013-11-25 03:41:05 PM

gibbon1: sleeps in trees: Honest question, is there any correlation between earthquakes and past volcanic eruptions?

Depends on the kind of earth quakes. Lava forcing it's way up will cause small earth quakes as rock is displaced. Better than describing it, one can listen to seismic recordings of an earthquake swarm sped 60 times.

The other is a lot of volcano's form as the result of plate tectonics, as one plate gets pushed under another. Friction causes melting under the edge of the plate and lava wells up to form volcano's. And you get huge earthquakes as the fault snaps. But the relation is merely the common cause, one doesn't cause the other. Other volcano's are do to hot spots where lava wells up. Think Hawaii, Yellowstone, etc.



Thank you for the answer.
 
2013-11-25 03:50:07 PM
"We are in a situation of high alert due to the danger of searing gas,"

Their national vulcanologist hasn't figured out whet the term "pyroclastic flow" means yet.
 
2013-11-25 04:11:45 PM

SwiftFox: "We are in a situation of high alert due to the danger of searing gas,"

Their national vulcanologist hasn't figured out whet the term "pyroclastic flow" means yet.


It is more likely that the translator or PR worker who created the English version wanted the appropriate amount of fear rather than precision.
 
2013-11-25 09:34:21 PM
Kevin72:
Krakatoa, when the earth split asunder,

static4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
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