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2013-11-24 04:48:24 PM  
Very amusing, but needed more Tom Baker. Though based on  the credits,  I guess his kids were in it?
 
2013-11-24 05:28:41 PM  
I haven't watched Dr Who since tom Baker; but yesterday makes me think I might watch again.
 
2013-11-24 05:33:54 PM  
...anyone have an alternate link? I've "temporarily allowed all scripts" twice now, still no video...
 
2013-11-24 05:38:54 PM  

Any Pie Left: Very amusing, but needed more Tom Baker. Though based on  the credits,  I guess his kids were in it?


I wonder what the names of the other Doctors were ... specifically the sixth ... wonder what his last name was again ... its at the tip of my tongue ... just can't remember ...
 
2013-11-24 05:39:36 PM  

StopLurkListen: ...anyone have an alternate link? I've "temporarily allowed all scripts" twice now, still no video...



Try this link. Looking at the 'page info' I see the embedded flash video's the same link, but it's worth a shot.
 
2013-11-24 05:39:55 PM  
The John Barrowman scene made the video.
 
2013-11-24 05:46:04 PM  
I loved this. I had no idea that Davison has such a playful mind...
 
2013-11-24 06:19:38 PM  
I fully enjoyed that.
 
2013-11-24 06:45:43 PM  
That was fantastic!
 
2013-11-24 06:54:14 PM  
If you were ever a fan of the original show, you need to watch this.
 
2013-11-24 06:58:46 PM  
Very funny. And great to see so many cameo's and people mocking themselves. RTD and his endless voicemail, Barrowman's shameful secret, Moffat playing with his Doctor action figures, Georgina giving birth and DT trying to remember what it was he was meant to ask about and the twist ending where you thought their inclusion had been thrown away only to find out they were in it after all. Loved it.
 
2013-11-24 07:19:43 PM  
It was enjoyable, but way, way too long. There were several scenes that had a lot of dead air. It could have been 15 minutes, and a lot more enjoyable for the brevity.

Loved the "Five Doctors" meta joke about Tom Baker's absence. Loved Barrowman's "wife" and "kids." Loved Jackson and McKellan.
 
2013-11-24 07:50:32 PM  
The only thing that could make the anniversary better is if there were a special episode where Amy Pond made a lesbian sex tape with Martha Jones and it had to be broadcast to the entire universe to prevent an alien invasion
 
2013-11-24 07:51:20 PM  
I can't be the only one who hated the 50th anniversary special. It was the finale of BSG all over again, retroconning the entire New Who and making everything that came before it pointless. So now, the Doctor was being all emo for 400 years over essentially... nothing. And the new rationale doesn't even adequately explain away the Daleks and the Time Lords. (And, no, "they all shot themselves" and "every Time Lord just happened to be on Gallifrey at the time" don't count.)

After the great "Night of the Doctor" mini-sode, I had high hopes for the special. Instead, it was a misguided mush of writers trying to be clever.

/And screw Eccleston for not playing along. What there was of the plot made even less sense without him there.
 
2013-11-24 07:56:05 PM  

superoogie: I can't be the only one who hated the 50th anniversary special. It was the finale of BSG all over again, retroconning the entire New Who and making everything that came before it pointless. So now, the Doctor was being all emo for 400 years over essentially... nothing. And the new rationale doesn't even adequately explain away the Daleks and the Time Lords. (And, no, "they all shot themselves" and "every Time Lord just happened to be on Gallifrey at the time" don't count.)

After the great "Night of the Doctor" mini-sode, I had high hopes for the special. Instead, it was a misguided mush of writers trying to be clever.

/And screw Eccleston for not playing along. What there was of the plot made even less sense without him there.


This is the thread you're looking for. Yes, there were some serious holes, because Moffat.

So do you also hate on Tom Baker for not participating in the 20th?
 
2013-11-24 08:00:11 PM  

phaseolus: StopLurkListen: ...anyone have an alternate link? I've "temporarily allowed all scripts" twice now, still no video...


Try this link. Looking at the 'page info' I see the embedded flash video's the same link, but it's worth a shot.




That must be why my iPad won't play it.
 
2013-11-24 08:01:53 PM  
About 10 minutes into the 50th special, loved Night of the Doctor.  This, however, was 30 minutes of wankery.  It could have been cute at 5 minutes, but way too long for too little payoff.
 
2013-11-24 08:25:29 PM  
Make sure you stay for the after credits scene.


Genius.


This is considerably better than the actual episode.
 
2013-11-24 08:32:13 PM  
Haven't they done, like, three 50th anniversary episodes now? Am I the only one who's noticed this?
 
2013-11-24 08:49:06 PM  
What I'm really hating about the Doctor Who anniversary weekend is that they aren't rerunning actual episodes or the special, but rerunning documentaries about Doctor Who. I know that you guys love Doctor Who quite a bit and would be genuinely interested in this kind of analysis, but I'm just a guy who likes the show. Space seems to have their priorities backwards.
 
2013-11-24 08:54:48 PM  
OK, this seems as good a place as any to ask: there are a whole bunch of NuWho "minisodes" (for a sample list:  http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Doctor_Who_mini-episodes ). I get that it's all timey-wimey, but is there a site that shows a preferred watching order that includes these? Or does anyone have an opinion? I'd like to know where they work best in the narrative.
 
2013-11-24 09:03:44 PM  

superoogie: I can't be the only one who hated the 50th anniversary special. It was the finale of BSG all over again, retroconning the entire New Who and making everything that came before it pointless. So now, the Doctor was being all emo for 400 years over essentially... nothing. And the new rationale doesn't even adequately explain away the Daleks and the Time Lords. (And, no, "they all shot themselves" and "every Time Lord just happened to be on Gallifrey at the time" don't count.)

After the great "Night of the Doctor" mini-sode, I had high hopes for the special. Instead, it was a misguided mush of writers trying to be clever.

/And screw Eccleston for not playing along. What there was of the plot made even less sense without him there.


It actually kinda made sense if you thought about it as a closed causality loop. His regret at wiping out his people caused him to second guess himself for 400 years, which caused him to find the solution. Without the guilt, he wouldn't have gotten his absolution. The fact the his guilt was unearned makes the earlier seasons even MORE tragic in my eyes, and makes his sacrifice to end the Time War more noble, and nicely sets up a storyline where Gallifrey is found and the Doctor is rewarded with more regenerations for his actions. It also helped explain how Daleks just kept showing back up like bad pennies after supposedly being completely wiped from history. Having the Daleks pop up again and again was what really made the Doctor's sacrifice seem like nothing.

Maybe I set my expectations low, but this worked MUCH better than previous multi-Doctor stories, and the Tennant/Smith interaction was outstanding. It was a good way to reboot things a bit and move past the grimdark Lonely God storylines of the new series and bring back more of the heroic optimism of the old series, while still calling back to the classic series. Plus, the more I thought about it, the more the Curator scene was brilliant because it not only gives them a loophole to bring back older Doctors, but it also puts into play a hopeful future for the Doctor when he is done with his wanderings, a just reward for all the good he has done. Yes, it was some blatant fanservice, but after keeping the show alive 5 decades the fans earned it.
 
2013-11-24 09:17:19 PM  

Mad_Radhu: It actually kinda made sense if you thought about it as a closed causality loop. His regret at wiping out his people caused him to second guess himself for 400 years, which caused him to find the solution. Without the guilt, he wouldn't have gotten his absolution. The fact the his guilt was unearned makes the earlier seasons even MORE tragic in my eyes, and makes his sacrifice to end the Time War more noble, and nicely sets up a storyline where Gallifrey is found and the Doctor is rewarded with more regenerations for his actions. It also helped explain how Daleks just kept showing back up like bad pennies after supposedly being completely wiped from history. Having the Daleks pop up again and again was what really made the Doctor's sacrifice seem like nothing.


That is an excellent argument. Really well-reasoned as well.

Maybe I set my expectations low, but this worked MUCH better than previous multi-Doctor stories, and the Tennant/Smith interaction was outstanding. It was a good way to reboot things a bit and move past the grimdark Lonely God storylines of the new series and bring back more of the heroic optimism of the old series, while still calling back to the classic series. Plus, the more I thought about it, the more the Curator scene was brilliant because it not only gives them a loophole to bring back older Doctors, but it also puts into play a hopeful future for the Doctor when he is done with his wanderings, a just reward for all the good he has done. Yes, it was some blatant fanservice, but after keeping the show alive 5 decades the fans earned it.

I also liked the feeling from that scene that in the end, the Doctor gets to retire, relax, become something akin to Tom Baker again, and just enjoy himself.
 
2013-11-24 09:32:21 PM  

superoogie: I can't be the only one who hated the 50th anniversary special. It was the finale of BSG all over again, retroconning the entire New Who and making everything that came before it pointless. So now, the Doctor was being all emo for 400 years over essentially... nothing. And the new rationale doesn't even adequately explain away the Daleks and the Time Lords. (And, no, "they all shot themselves" and "every Time Lord just happened to be on Gallifrey at the time" don't count.)

After the great "Night of the Doctor" mini-sode, I had high hopes for the special. Instead, it was a misguided mush of writers trying to be clever.

/And screw Eccleston for not playing along. What there was of the plot made even less sense without him there.


You're not the only one. I'm sure you can talk about your concerns with the other 8 people who hated it.
 
2013-11-24 09:35:42 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: I also liked the feeling from that scene that in the end, the Doctor gets to retire, relax, become something akin to Tom Baker again, and just enjoy himself.


...and when he gets bored, he regenerates and the fun starts all over again. (Not an original thought; Lazarus Long claimed he's retired many times during his life, and always got bored.)
 
2013-11-24 09:36:35 PM  

superoogie: I can't be the only one who hated the 50th anniversary special. It was the finale of BSG all over again, retroconning the entire New Who and making everything that came before it pointless. So now, the Doctor was being all emo for 400 years over essentially... nothing. And the new rationale doesn't even adequately explain away the Daleks and the Time Lords. (And, no, "they all shot themselves" and "every Time Lord just happened to be on Gallifrey at the time" don't count.)

After the great "Night of the Doctor" mini-sode, I had high hopes for the special. Instead, it was a misguided mush of writers trying to be clever.

/And screw Eccleston for not playing along. What there was of the plot made even less sense without him there.


It still makes sense because he even if he did remember trying to save Gallifrey instead of using the Moment, he would not have known if it worked or not. The Time Lords would still be lost to him forever. I did like the idea of the Moment showing the war doctor events that would make him contemplate a solution for the hundreds of years after the war.

Either way, stop being butt hurt about a TV show and just enjoy the silly fun. It's a show about time travel, anything is possible.
 
2013-11-24 09:53:08 PM  
I'm usually pretty critical about Moffat's writing, and even I didn't really have a problem with the 50th Anniversary retcon, because it was done in a way where the consequences of the original timeline explicitly still hold.  My main problem was spending half the episode on the Zygon side-story, then ending it with "And now we'll just leave you guys down here to sort this all out" and never speaking of it again.  I get what they were trying to do with it, but they could have devoted MUCH less time to it.

"The Five(ish) Doctors" was funny as hell, though.  I'm amazed how many people they managed to get in on it.
 
2013-11-24 09:59:45 PM  
Very amusing & fun, greatly enjoyed. :)  Sylvester looks like he's hardly aged a day. :)

Loved the cameos with Russel T., John Barrowman, David Tennant and Ian McKellen. :)

Now I have to find all the "Documentaries" that Doc Batarang was referring to earlier.. I enjoy those almost as much as the actual shows. :)
 
2013-11-24 10:24:22 PM  
Just repeat to yourself "It's just a show. I should really just relax."

Oh, wait, that's MST3k, which is exactly half Dr. Who's age today. But the adage still applies. :)
 
2013-11-24 10:27:47 PM  

Fast Moon: I'm usually pretty critical about Moffat's writing, and even I didn't really have a problem with the 50th Anniversary retcon, because it was done in a way where the consequences of the original timeline explicitly still hold.  My main problem was spending half the episode on the Zygon side-story, then ending it with "And now we'll just leave you guys down here to sort this all out" and never speaking of it again.  I get what they were trying to do with it, but they could have devoted MUCH less time to it.

"The Five(ish) Doctors" was funny as hell, though.  I'm amazed how many people they managed to get in on it.


I can't believe the Zygon thing will just be abandoned. Even if it worked perfectly off-camera we now have a population of Zygons living legally on Earth. If that isn't revisited (Zygons working for UNIT)? In the next season or two I'll be shocked.

/And possibly appalled.
//But likely not awed.
///Could be dismayed though.
 
2013-11-24 10:28:57 PM  
Wow, Colin Baker has not aged well.
 
2013-11-24 10:59:33 PM  

KradDrol: Wow, Colin Baker has not aged well.

 
2013-11-24 11:00:32 PM  

KradDrol: Wow, Colin Baker has not aged well.


When 70 years old you reach, look that good, you will not.
 
2013-11-24 11:27:33 PM  

EchoMike: KradDrol: Wow, Colin Baker has not aged well.

When 70 years old you reach, look that good, you will not.


Tom Baker looks fine at almost 80 - Colin Baker looks like he gets suet pumped in intravenously.
 
2013-11-25 12:03:47 AM  

KradDrol: Wow, Colin Baker has not aged well.



Yet I find his wife very attractive.
 
2013-11-25 12:05:26 AM  

gingerjet: Any Pie Left: Very amusing, but needed more Tom Baker. Though based on  the credits,  I guess his kids were in it?

I wonder what the names of the other Doctors were ... specifically the sixth ... wonder what his last name was again ... its at the tip of my tongue ... just can't remember ...


Colin is no relation to Tom Baker
 
2013-11-25 12:08:32 AM  

superoogie: I can't be the only one who hated the 50th anniversary special. It was the finale of BSG all over again, retroconning the entire New Who and making everything that came before it pointless. So now, the Doctor was being all emo for 400 years over essentially... nothing. And the new rationale doesn't even adequately explain away the Daleks and the Time Lords. (And, no, "they all shot themselves" and "every Time Lord just happened to be on Gallifrey at the time" don't count.)

After the great "Night of the Doctor" mini-sode, I had high hopes for the special. Instead, it was a misguided mush of writers trying to be clever.

/And screw Eccleston for not playing along. What there was of the plot made even less sense without him there.


You're not the only one.  I thought there were several problems with it.  I didn't hate it, but I had the following problems.

1.  Billie Piper being there.  Served no purpose, especially since she didn't interact with 10 (he couldn't see or hear her).  Plus since she was not actually Rose her looks at 10 made no sense.
2.  All 13 Doctors being there to save Gallifrey.  1 and 2 definitely wouldn't be, and probably not 3 either.
3.  The mechanism to get the Doctors back to the present.  It was essentially the same tool to save Gallifrey and if those three popped out of the painting, how come they couldn't just grab a shiatload of other timelords at the same time?
4.  The whole saving of Gallifrey.  Besides being (what I feel) is a copout retcon, there's no way the entire Dalek fleet would have been wiped out at the same time.
5.  The fact it didn't take place after the last episode.  It feels like something big is missing with the death place of the Doctor.

There were things I liked about it, but it was just okay to me.  I did like:

1. Hurt's Doctor pointed out how stupid the "timey wimey" stuff is.
2. Chameleon on the cork board
3. As much as 10 wasn't my favorite he really slipped back into the role with no problems
4. The SFX
5. The brief intro of 13.
6. The fact that it seems that the War Doctor does indeed count in the regeneration cycle
7. The interplay between 10 and 11
8. The "circles" making an appearance and being referenced
 
2013-11-25 12:48:23 AM  

mjbok: 4.  The whole saving of Gallifrey.  Besides being (what I feel) is a copout retcon, there's no way the entire Dalek fleet would have been wiped out at the same time.


The entire Dalek fleet was not wiped out. That's why those bastards have been turning up again and again since 2005. Yeah, that's a retcon reason, but it's a good one. It certainly explains how there could be an "Asylum of the Daleks."
 
2013-11-25 12:49:48 AM  

Bandito King: gingerjet: Any Pie Left: Very amusing, but needed more Tom Baker. Though based on  the credits,  I guess his kids were in it?

I wonder what the names of the other Doctors were ... specifically the sixth ... wonder what his last name was again ... its at the tip of my tongue ... just can't remember ...

Colin is no relation to Tom Baker


That's the point. The numerous Bakers in the credits are Colin Baker's family. Not Tom's. None of Tom's "kids were in it." All of Colin's kids were in it.
 
2013-11-25 12:56:10 AM  

100 Watt Walrus: mjbok: 4.  The whole saving of Gallifrey.  Besides being (what I feel) is a copout retcon, there's no way the entire Dalek fleet would have been wiped out at the same time.

The entire Dalek fleet was not wiped out. That's why those bastards have been turning up again and again since 2005. Yeah, that's a retcon reason, but it's a good one. It certainly explains how there could be an "Asylum of the Daleks."


Pretty much this. They always seemed to turn up again and again.
 
2013-11-25 12:58:23 AM  

mjbok: 1.  Billie Piper being there.  Served no purpose, especially since she didn't interact with 10 (he couldn't see or hear her).  Plus since she was not actually Rose her looks at 10 made no sense.


Yeah, pointless inclusion of Rose. If they really wanted to include her they could easily tie her in with the 10th doctor. But I don't really see it as a negative, just pointless.

4.  The whole saving of Gallifrey.  Besides being (what I feel) is a copout retcon, there's no way the entire Dalek fleet would have been wiped out at the same time.

I kind of like the retcon, they can really use it to change the mood of a lot of the show going forward. And they didn't actually change anything. The Doctor believed that he destroyed Gallifrey and all the following stories and his development remain intact. No more sad doctor making up for his past and regretting his decision. However, the Dalek fleet thing did seem to be a lazy hand wave, surely they could come up with something better. I can ignore plenty of things, but that just felt lazy.

Overall, I thought it was a pretty good episode. A few things that could have been improved, there were a few pieces of pointless fan service (I was quite surprised that they go a lot further with this, though) but overall a fun episode and sets up some new things going forwards.
 
2013-11-25 01:02:01 AM  

flaminio: OK, this seems as good a place as any to ask: there are a whole bunch of NuWho "minisodes" (for a sample list:  http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Doctor_Who_mini-episodes ). I get that it's all timey-wimey, but is there a site that shows a preferred watching order that includes these? Or does anyone have an opinion? I'd like to know where they work best in the narrative.


I had just finished replying to this when an inopportune accidental keystroke refreshed the page.  Gah.  But I care enough to do it over.

Children in Need 2005 (Born Again) - after 1x13 The Parting of the Ways

A Ghost Story for Christmas - after 3x10 Blink

Children in Need 2007 (Time Crash) - after 3x13 The Last of the Time Lords

Last Night - occurs before 4x09/10 Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead, but will make more sense if you watch it after

Meanwhile in the TARDIS part one - after 5x01 The Eleventh Hour

Meanwhile in the TARDIS part two - after 5x05 Flesh and Stone

Children in Need 2011 (Space, Time) - not set at a particular time, watch before season six

Good Night - doesn't really matter but seems to have occurred after 5x13 The Big Bang, around one of the Christmases in A Christmas Carol Christmas special, and before 6x01 The Impossible Astronaut

The Impossible Astronaut - A Prequel - before 6x01 The Impossible Astronaut

The Curse of the Black Spot - A Prequel - before 6x09 The Curse of the Black Spot (NB: was actually aired third despite the official production number)

Rain Gods - before 6x03 The Doctor's Wife (actually aired fourth)

A Good Man Goes to War - A Prequel - before 6x07 A Good Man Goes to War

The Battle of Demons Run - Two Days Later - after 6x07 A Good Man Goes to War

Let's Kill Hitler - A Prequel - before 6x08 Let's Kill Hitler

Up All Night - before 6x12 Closing Time

The Wedding of River Song - A Prequel - before 6x13 The Wedding of River Song

First Night - after 6x13 The Wedding of River Song

Bad Night - doesn't matter, watch after season six

Death is the Only Answer and Good as Gold were scripts written by kids as part of competitions after season six so they're technically not canon, but you can watch them after season six.

The Doctor, The Widow and The Wardrobe - A Prequel - before TDTWaTW Christmas special

The Inforarium - happens some time in season five or six, but definitely before 7x01 The Asylum of the Daleks (that's what I think, anyway)

Pond Life - before 7x01 The Asylum of the Daleks

The Asylum of the Daleks - A Prequel - before 7x01 The Asylum of the Daleks

The Making of the Gungslinger - before 7x03 A Town Called Mercy

P.S. - After 7x05 The Angels Take Manhattan

Children in Need 2012 (The Great Detective) - before The Snowmen Christmas special

Vastra Investigates - A Christmas Prequel - before The Snowmen Christmas special

The Bells of Saint John - A Prequel - before 7x06 The Bells of Saint John

Clara and the TARDIS - some time in the second part of season seven, probably watch after 7x09 Hide

She Said, He Said - A Prequel - before 7x13 The Name of the Doctor (although they are speaking after the fact)

Clarence and the Whispermen - before 7x13 The Name of the Doctor

The Last Day - before The Day of the Doctor 50th Anniversary special

The Night of the Doctor - watch before the 50th Anniversary special because it explains the War Doctor's creation, although technically the events occur between the 1996 movie and 1x01 Rose (but then technically the 50th Anniversary special also happens immediately before 1x01 Rose)
 
2013-11-25 01:18:02 AM  

JonBuck: 100 Watt Walrus: mjbok: 4.  The whole saving of Gallifrey.  Besides being (what I feel) is a copout retcon, there's no way the entire Dalek fleet would have been wiped out at the same time.

The entire Dalek fleet was not wiped out. That's why those bastards have been turning up again and again since 2005. Yeah, that's a retcon reason, but it's a good one. It certainly explains how there could be an "Asylum of the Daleks."

Pretty much this. They always seemed to turn up again and again.


As far as I am aware there were only three separate groups of Daleks shown to have survived (all others descended from one of them).
There was the single Dalek in "Dalek".
There was the Emperor in "Bad Wolf" and "The Parting of Ways" all his subjects were created from humans, they were not survivors.
There was the Cult of Skaro, which survived by hiding in the void, and their army in the void. They would bring back Davros and most of the Daleks seen would come from them (such as "Victory of the Daleks")
 
2013-11-25 02:24:06 AM  
What? No pictures of Billy or Amy?
 
2013-11-25 02:26:30 AM  

dywed88: JonBuck: 100 Watt Walrus: mjbok: 4.  The whole saving of Gallifrey.  Besides being (what I feel) is a copout retcon, there's no way the entire Dalek fleet would have been wiped out at the same time.

The entire Dalek fleet was not wiped out. That's why those bastards have been turning up again and again since 2005. Yeah, that's a retcon reason, but it's a good one. It certainly explains how there could be an "Asylum of the Daleks."

Pretty much this. They always seemed to turn up again and again.

As far as I am aware there were only three separate groups of Daleks shown to have survived (all others descended from one of them).
There was the single Dalek in "Dalek".
There was the Emperor in "Bad Wolf" and "The Parting of Ways" all his subjects were created from humans, they were not survivors.
There was the Cult of Skaro, which survived by hiding in the void, and their army in the void. They would bring back Davros and most of the Daleks seen would come from them (such as "Victory of the Daleks")


There was also the Dalek Asylum, which contained Dalek survivors of incidents with previous Doctors (Exxilon was mentioned, as was Vulcan, for example). There's no way something like the Asylum could survive if the Daleks were completely removed from all of time and space, like Doctor thought happened when The Moment was used.
 
2013-11-25 02:29:23 AM  

lasercannon: The only thing that could make the anniversary better is if there were a special episode where Amy Pond made a lesbian sex tape with Martha Jones and it had to be broadcast to the entire universe to prevent an alien invasion


I have a copy. It's great.
 
2013-11-25 02:46:52 AM  

dywed88: JonBuck: 100 Watt Walrus: mjbok: 4.  The whole saving of Gallifrey.  Besides being (what I feel) is a copout retcon, there's no way the entire Dalek fleet would have been wiped out at the same time.

The entire Dalek fleet was not wiped out. That's why those bastards have been turning up again and again since 2005. Yeah, that's a retcon reason, but it's a good one. It certainly explains how there could be an "Asylum of the Daleks."

Pretty much this. They always seemed to turn up again and again.

As far as I am aware there were only three separate groups of Daleks shown to have survived (all others descended from one of them).
There was the single Dalek in "Dalek".
There was the Emperor in "Bad Wolf" and "The Parting of Ways" all his subjects were created from humans, they were not survivors.
There was the Cult of Skaro, which survived by hiding in the void, and their army in the void. They would bring back Davros and most of the Daleks seen would come from them (such as "Victory of the Daleks")


...and that whole shiat-ton of them in "Asylum," including several which had survived previous battles with various Doctors.
 
2013-11-25 02:47:55 AM  

Mad_Radhu: There was also the Dalek Asylum, which contained Dalek survivors of incidents with previous Doctors (Exxilon was mentioned, as was Vulcan, for example). There's no way something like the Asylum could survive if the Daleks were completely removed from all of time and space, like Doctor thought happened when The Moment was used.


You said it better than I just did. See what I get for posting before finishing the new entries in the thread?
 
2013-11-25 02:56:02 AM  

CigaretteSmokingMan: lasercannon: The only thing that could make the anniversary better is if there were a special episode where Amy Pond made a lesbian sex tape with Martha Jones and it had to be broadcast to the entire universe to prevent an alien invasion

I have a copy. It's great.


Us ladies have the doctor in nothing but a fez teasing us with his sonic screwdriver.
 
2013-11-25 03:04:40 AM  

alice_600: CigaretteSmokingMan: lasercannon: The only thing that could make the anniversary better is if there were a special episode where Amy Pond made a lesbian sex tape with Martha Jones and it had to be broadcast to the entire universe to prevent an alien invasion

I have a copy. It's great.

Us ladies have the doctor in nothing but a fez teasing us with his sonic screwdriver.


Just one of him?
 
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