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2013-11-24 01:15:44 PM
Just don't try to bake a pumpkin pie while going on a short trip. It only leads to family drama. My family put a pie in the oven and was going to make a "short" trip to the grocery to pick up some ingredients. This is one of three times we see this side of the family every year so *everyone* goes to the grocery. The road to the grocery is blocked for some sort of foreign festival, probably a German or Gypsy night festival. Anyways, the grocery store trip (with the detour) would end up taking longer than the pie baking time, necessitating a return to the home and a removal of the pie from the hot oven. My sister decided that this was a great offense and whined to no end. It was fun to egg her on. Long story short, the pie was great, the groceries were procured, and everyone lived happily ever after with a wonderful "Pie Story of November 2013".
 
2013-11-24 01:21:01 PM
People who line up for four days in front of Wal-Mart in order to save $200 (being generous) just don't understand the concept of "opportunity cost"
 
2013-11-24 01:25:47 PM
Can't remember which comedian said it but it's best paraphrased as "If you camp out for three days to save $150 on a TV, you probably shouldn't be buying a TV"
 
2013-11-24 02:07:27 PM
Whether you're rich, poor, or somewhere in between, I cannot imagine that camping outside of a store for 4 days to buy electronics/toys at a discount is anywhere close to being a good use of your time.  It's one thing to wake up at 4AM on Black Friday if that's what you want to do, but this is just pants on head farking stupid.
 
2013-11-24 02:16:19 PM
i like to think that it's more about the sense of community than the opportunity to save $5 on a Chromecast. like camping out at a renfaire or bonnarroo or something. sex, drugs, sing-a-longs... exchanging time-worn tales of the Great VHS BOGO deal of '89...

that's what i like to think, anyway.
 
2013-11-24 02:49:41 PM
I hope they freeze to death.
 
2013-11-24 02:54:06 PM

what_now: I hope they freeze to death.


That's some wishful thinking for Tampa.
 
2013-11-24 03:02:52 PM

Hoban Washburne: what_now: I hope they freeze to death.

That's some wishful thinking for Tampa.


*snort*

Ouch, spiked coffee is extra harsh on the sinuses...

/ouch
 
2013-11-24 03:16:21 PM

Hoban Washburne: what_now: I hope they freeze to death.

That's some wishful thinking for Tampa.




Ok, I hope they get eaten by an alligator.
 
2013-11-24 03:24:38 PM
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2013-11-24 04:02:03 PM

Rincewind53: People who line up for four days in front of Wal-Mart in order to save $200 (being generous) just don't understand the concept of "opportunity cost"


I'll play a bit of Devil's Advocate. I've never participated in these multi-day lines, but my friend did in high school for Star Wars Ep1 tickets. He said it was a lot of fun, hanging out with other like-minded folks, playing cards and whatnot. In his case it was even worse "opportunity cost" since the movie wasn't one-day-only, but I doubt many or any of these folks are using vacation time or taking unpaid leave from work to get their TV discount. if any are, then yeah they're morons. But maybe they're just bored unemployed folks with nothing better to do.
 
2013-11-24 04:03:22 PM
The upside is that when criminals watch TV and break into the homes of those featured waiting on-line, there will be nothing in those homes worth stealing.
 
2013-11-24 04:55:28 PM

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 452x173]


Great.  You've gone and Godwin'd this!.

Letsee.  If I spend 4 days for a savings of $200.

That's 96 hours.  That's just over $2 an hour.

I think my time is probably worth more.
 
2013-11-24 05:09:23 PM
Since these types of people all seem to be more concerned about how much money they're saving instead of what they're actually buying I propose we offer surgical sterilizations are half the cost.  The problem will solve itself within a generation or two.
 
2013-11-24 05:11:15 PM
That would be, *AT* half the cost.

/I'll get in line for the sterilization now for the mistake
 
2013-11-24 05:13:29 PM
I will wait in line for some things out of need - "holiday shopping"? no

I have, however, saved enough money to go to a "big electronics" store on a random Tuesday morning at 10:30 am and had a selection of salespeople eager to help (including coffee) and bend over backwards to find discounts, savings and "carry to your car?" service. Clear-eyed people - rested - joking with each other.

Or I could wait in the dark with snarling strangers who will gladly trample me to death to "cheat the system" including dead-eyed retail workers.  Merry what?
 
2013-11-24 05:13:47 PM

A challenger appears: Since these types of people all seem to be more concerned about how much money they're saving instead of what they're actually buying I propose we offer surgical sterilizations are half the cost.  The problem will solve itself within a generation or two.


Castration: now 50% off!
 
2013-11-24 05:24:56 PM

DonQuixote314159: A challenger appears: Since these types of people all seem to be more concerned about how much money they're saving instead of what they're actually buying I propose we offer surgical sterilizations are half the cost.  The problem will solve itself within a generation or two.

Castration: now 50% off!


THEY TAKE HALF!?!?
 
2013-11-24 05:34:01 PM
I'm fortunate to have a job where not only do I get off both turkey day and Black Friday, my company considers both days holidays so I get an extra 16 hours on the next paycheck. The ONLY place I may even CONSIDER going is Sam's Club for the 96 cent S4. At least the ghettoness will be at a minimum.
 
2013-11-24 05:46:33 PM
Wait. The idiots went away?

/I missed this event.
 
2013-11-24 06:09:59 PM
FTFA:  "I have three kids of my own"

So, rather than spend time with them, I'm going to camp out in front of Best Buy and get them something that's on a huge blowout sale!  Because I'm a GREAT Dad!
 
2013-11-24 06:10:13 PM

Gig103: I'll play a bit of Devil's Advocate. I've never participated in these multi-day lines, but my friend did in high school for Star Wars Ep1 tickets. He said it was a lot of fun, hanging out with other like-minded folks, playing cards and whatnot. In his case it was even worse "opportunity cost" since the movie wasn't one-day-only, but I doubt many or any of these folks are using vacation time or taking unpaid leave from work to get their TV discount. if any are, then yeah they're morons. But maybe they're just bored unemployed folks with nothing better to do.


Well I'd say that standing in line for any event, whether it's concert tickets or a major movie premier is far different than waiting in line to purchase discounted electronics.
 
2013-11-24 06:22:17 PM
Around here they don't let you line up until the store closes the day before, I thought it was like that everywhere. It should be.
 
2013-11-24 06:32:58 PM
I can find it cheaper on the internet today and have it shipped by Friday.
 
2013-11-24 06:33:34 PM
Pathetic losers.
 
2013-11-24 06:37:36 PM
I thought that this would be about the usual idiots burning themselves up trying to fry a turkey.
 
2013-11-24 06:42:26 PM
What the hell is best buy giving away on black Friday that necessitates being there 4 days earlier?
 
2013-11-24 06:46:19 PM

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 452x173]


Presumes that these people are actually thankful on Thanksgiving anymore. Thanksgiving is now synonymous with having society's leave to stuff your face with all sorts of delicious food for a day, and no one will look at you weirdly because they're doing the same thing.

The only thankful people on Thanksgiving that I've ever known are the homeless that show up to soup kitchens on Thanksgiving, and they are thankful for the free food and people who volunteer and/or donate food. Whether they are thankful for cretins who line up at stores to be tricked into thinking they're getting "great deals" when most of the time they're getting garbage at retail price, I cannot say because I'm not a mind-reader.

Perhaps the old Walmart Greeter who opens the door is thankful for having an hour of time with his wife, kids and grandkids before having to go to sleep early so he can rush over to work on Friday at 6 AM, but I believe he probably isn't thankful for the cows who push the door down on him and step on the fallen glass door and him so they can get their feces and mucus-covered fingers on a Tickle-me-Elmo before some other drooling excuse for a human being does. His family is most likely not thankful for the $25 Wal-Mart gift certificate sent with condolences from the manager, either.

Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with people getting gifts for their friends and loved ones. It's customers' willingness to be tricked and to fight with other people that I think encapsulates how the rest of the world sees America's blurred line between its barbarism and its decadence.

And this situation will never improve because the people in control of the situation profit from the mindless people they control.

TL;DR: Have a happy holiday everyone.
 
2013-11-24 06:46:57 PM
I've camped out once in my life.
For tickets to see Frank Sinatra.
I was there for 9 hours.
We got second row.

Half off a TV?  I don't think so.
 
2013-11-24 06:54:13 PM
I never understood waiting in line outside of Best Buy... I think I bought a bunch of doorbusters at midnight and went in the next morning (around 11am) to pick them up.
 
2013-11-24 07:08:29 PM
Don't these people have jobs to go to? I'm assuming they don't, which leads to the question of where they're getting the money to afford all these "great deals".
 
2013-11-24 07:20:12 PM

FuryOfFirestorm: Don't these people have jobs to go to? I'm assuming they don't, which leads to the question of where they're getting the money to afford all these "great deals".


Alternatively:  They have jobs, and so little of actual worth in their lives that they used vacation time to camp in front of a Best Buy.
 
2013-11-24 07:58:29 PM
I love how the article calls the stores being open on Thanksgiving evening "Brown Thursday".
 
2013-11-24 08:09:08 PM
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2013-11-24 08:09:44 PM

Hoban Washburne: Gig103: I'll play a bit of Devil's Advocate. I've never participated in these multi-day lines, but my friend did in high school for Star Wars Ep1 tickets. He said it was a lot of fun, hanging out with other like-minded folks, playing cards and whatnot. In his case it was even worse "opportunity cost" since the movie wasn't one-day-only, but I doubt many or any of these folks are using vacation time or taking unpaid leave from work to get their TV discount. if any are, then yeah they're morons. But maybe they're just bored unemployed folks with nothing better to do.

Well I'd say that standing in line for any event, whether it's concert tickets or a major movie premier is far different than waiting in line to purchase discounted electronics.


I don't even see it for Star Wars.  So what you have to wait a few hours/days later.  I can see it for limited time shows though.  Never know when who you want to see croaks or never comes back to town.

/from a city Elvis was scheduled to play very shortly after his death
 
2013-11-24 08:09:57 PM

LeroyB: I love how the article calls the stores being open on Thanksgiving evening "Brown Thursday".


Not "gray"?
 
2013-11-24 08:13:13 PM

the801: i like to think that it's more about the sense of community than the opportunity to save $5 on a Chromecast. like camping out at a renfaire or bonnarroo or something. sex, drugs, sing-a-longs... exchanging time-worn tales of the Great VHS BOGO deal of '89...

that's what i like to think, anyway.


Except that the people around you are your competitors and you need to be prepared to stab them in the back or step on their skull if they happen to step between you and that $6 waffle maker.
 
2013-11-24 08:15:39 PM
My black friday craziness started today. I got assaulted by a crazy homeless man in my store.
 
2013-11-24 08:22:36 PM

ReapTheChaos: Around here they don't let you line up until the store closes the day before, I thought it was like that everywhere. It should be.


^^THIS

for christ's sake, they're basically allowing a shanty town to be set up in the parking lot.   These people are going to be smelling like ass by Friday, i doubt their doing shift changes with family/friends to go home and get showers and changes of clothes.  So they basically have bums crashing by the front doors for the majority of a week, and you just know those assholes will be fighting to find electrical sockets to keep their current gadgets charged, and I'm sure the employees love have to clean up the bathrooms that  these cheap farks will inevitably destroy.

I know when I'm looking to go to buy something, nothing makes me feel better about an establishment that has a line of smelly, cheap-ass bums lined up in front of it.

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/shanty town
 
2013-11-24 08:25:05 PM
When I was a kid in the 80's, we camped out on city sidewalks for 2 to 4 days waiting for concert tickets to go on sale (Dead, Who, Police, etc...) so we could get floor seats. Great times. Camping out to save a buck on electronics? I'm happy to say I've never had the experience.
 
2013-11-24 08:28:13 PM

12349876: I don't even see it for Star Wars.


Trust me I'm with you.  There has never been a movie that I felt compelled to camp out for, but I could see if you're REALLY a super fan it could be fun to dress up and go with friends.  Marked down TVs?  No farking way.
 
2013-11-24 08:55:21 PM
Im thinking a fun time would be throwing some nice cold water balloons on the people waiting in line.


I am a stockroom manager at a store in a simon mall. The mall is forcing us to open at 8pm thanksgiving. We have been arguing with them for weeks over this but basically we are breaking the lease agreement if we dont open. So not only do we need to have multiple employees in at 7pm on thankgsgiving to open, we also dont close until 10pm friday. We are going to be losing money by opening on thanksgiving, but have no choice.

Somehow I am the only employee in the store who managed to get thursday friday saturday sunday off.
 
2013-11-24 09:02:32 PM
You could probably more than make up the savings you get from camping out by oh I dunno... working?? Anything for attention I guess.
 
2013-11-24 09:05:09 PM

KarmicDisaster: I thought that this would be about the usual idiots burning themselves up trying to fry a turkey.


I did too!
 
2013-11-24 09:05:55 PM

miltonbabbitt: When I was a kid in the 80's, we camped out on city sidewalks for 2 to 4 days waiting for concert tickets to go on sale (Dead, Who, Police, etc...) so we could get floor seats. Great times. Camping out to save a buck on electronics? I'm happy to say I've never had the experience.


Since supply is usually limited for big ticket items, if you're not one of the first 50-100 people in line, don't bother.  They'll be sold out by the time you get to the counter.

Having said that, if you have a couple thousand burning in your bank account, there might be some profit in buying the most expensive TV on super-sale and then immediately reselling it on Craigslist.
 
2013-11-24 09:09:16 PM
Meanwhile I will be shopping on Amazon and Newegg at home without wearing pants, or at least needing to wear pants.  I suspect I'll get better deals.

Where do those chuckleheads go to the bathroom?  No showers?  I guess you could make some money running a food cart and going between stores.
 
2013-11-24 09:36:57 PM
Usually the 1st or 2nd Saturday after Thanksgiving, I pack up the famn damily and go out shopping. We buy a few things and have a nice lunch, but the point is to submerge ourselves in a crush of humanity communally preparing for the same holiday. It's inefficient, it's problematic, it's tiresome, and it's a fun way to generate memories. Much more so than sitting online for a couple of hours.
 
2013-11-24 09:40:37 PM
A classic example of people who don't know how to value their time.

Now, to go tamper with a dozen wikipedia articles while I wait for Candy Crush to refill my lives.
 
2013-11-24 09:47:19 PM
There is nothing "Best" Buy carries that is worth camping out for a week even if they gave it away for free. Wow, I totally "saved" a hundred bucks on a new, substandard SKU of a piece of shiatty hardware my giftee doesn't even want!
 
2013-11-24 09:50:29 PM

Notabunny: Usually the 1st or 2nd Saturday after Thanksgiving, I pack up the famn damily and go out shopping. We buy a few things and have a nice lunch, but the point is to submerge ourselves in a crush of humanity communally preparing for the same holiday. It's inefficient, it's problematic, it's tiresome, and it's a fun way to generate memories. Much more so than sitting online for a couple of hours.


I actually agree. I'm not going to wait in line to save a few bucks, but Christmas shopping at actual physical stores/malls is like a weird social event. It's fun. Once a year is plenty, though.
 
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