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(NPR)   NPR declares war on Thanksgiving by declaring Americans should eschew traditional turkey, ham, stuffing, and mashed potatoes in favor of "French food"   (npr.org) divider line 205
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2013-11-24 03:36:23 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)


You shut your whore mouth.
 
2013-11-24 03:40:18 PM
Duh. If you ask Norm Abram what kind of house you should buy he's not going to say "a nice little adobe in New Mexico."
 
2013-11-24 03:41:28 PM
I make squash soup every year, and the recipe isn't too different from hers.  It's seasonal.  Get over it.
 
2013-11-24 03:43:42 PM

Apos: iheartscotch: But, but, but, BUT..... TRADITION! We should continue to do things exactly the same; because, we've always done it like that.

/ TRAAAADITOON! TRADITION!


Brilliant Fiddler On The Roof reference.


Thanks!

Sometimes; I think we live in our own, personal Anatevkas. For some, their Anatevka may be a specific holiday celebration. For others, their Anatevka may be a dinner at a Chinese restaurant. But, for us, Anatevka is a big mean guy; that's coming to kill us

/ MOAR references; the last line is the one that really gives it away
 
2013-11-24 03:47:06 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: At least they didn't roll out Susan Stamberg's cranberry dish again.


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Still could have been worse.
 
2013-11-24 03:47:12 PM
The Washington Post reported this morning that the tradition of marshmallows on sweet potatoes (which Mrs Servo hates) started with the French.

So any of you that eat marshmallows on 'yer sweet potatoes hate America.
 
2013-11-24 03:48:22 PM
GIVE ME TURKEY OR GIVE ME DEATH!

/or gravy,i'd actually be good with just gravy
//and pie
 
2013-11-24 03:50:37 PM

12349876: Robo Beat: 12349876: TV's Vinnie: Turkey & stuffing only happens once a year. GTF away from me with your meddling, stupid coont!

Because whole turkeys and stuffing ingredients disappear from the grocery store from December-October.

FWIW, I've never seen whole cranberries available at any other time of the year.  The canned cranberry sauce is sometimes available in, say, June, but you have to scrape about a half-inch of dust off of it.

I'll give you cranberries.  They're quite seasonal though I'm sure if the demand was there they'd figure out a way to grow in South America or something like the other berries.

But your local amusement park always has roasted turkey legs. yum yum


I'm pretty sure you can get frozen cranberries almost year-round.
 
2013-11-24 03:50:41 PM
If you wanted to be traditional you'd be eating venison and oysters.  So make this oyster stuffing recipe from Paul Prudhomme.  It is outstanding.

http://articles.philly.com/1988-11-23/food/26244585_1_place-oysters- lo uisiana-oyster-oyster-water
 
2013-11-24 03:50:57 PM
All those recipes sound awesome.

And, please, for the love of all that is holy, do NOT give those right-wing douches ideas!
 
2013-11-24 03:50:58 PM
Also, if you make gravy (and you're not a wimpy infrahuman who uses those powdered gravy mixes), you are using hard French cooking techniques.  Any soup that goes with Thanksgiving is probably made with a mirepoix.  There is no shame to adding French side dishes or even main dishes to you feast.

But: bird, stuffing, potatoes.

I regard sweet potatoes as acceptable break from regular potatoes; duck, goose, or even chicken to be an acceptable substitute for turkey.  There is no substituting for stuffing.  That includes calling stuffing "dressing" you stupid Minnesotans.  Also "with" is preposition, not an adverb, just so you know
 
2013-11-24 03:52:55 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)


Yes. Yes it does. If you roast it, like you would a large chicken, it doesn't actually seem that finicky. But the meat just does not taste very good. If it were a heritage bird, I'd be curious enough to try it, but it always seems to be Butterball. Ugh. I don't eat turkey anymore, even on Thanksgiving. There's no point.

Duck would be a nice change of pace...
 
2013-11-24 03:53:19 PM
Spicy Thai Pumpkin Soup with Crab And Cilantro
Seared Duck Breast with Fresh Figs and Black Currant Sauce
Intense Chocolate Custards with Nibs

Wow, those sound amazingly good
 
2013-11-24 03:53:38 PM

Rapmaster2000: If you wanted to be traditional you'd be eating venison and oysters.  So make this oyster stuffing recipe from Paul Prudhomme.  It is outstanding.

http://articles.philly.com/1988-11-23/food/26244585_1_place-oysters- lo uisiana-oyster-oyster-water


nom nom nom
 
2013-11-24 03:55:18 PM

iheartscotch: But, but, but, BUT..... TRADITION! We should continue to do things exactly the same; because, we've always done it like that.

/ TRAAAADITOON! TRADITION!



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On the other hand...French food can be very tasty!
 
2013-11-24 03:56:54 PM

farkinglizardking: I enjoy French food. However, I will not show up to my family's thanksgiving with a pot of onion soup with toasted Gruyere and croutons on the top, or some imported foie gras.


Or why not forturkey with some foie gras in there? PS, I think I just came up with the next great culinary trend (disgusting as that would be)!
 
2013-11-24 04:02:35 PM
On Alton Brown's Nerdist podcast, he told the story of how Turkey is originally from Mexico.

So eat your damn Mexican food on Thursday, you commie pinko foodies.
 
2013-11-24 04:03:11 PM
There's a chicken with mushrooms and leeks recipe that I absolutely love. Uses white wine and heavy cream too. Very French in that respect.

But I bet I could sub out the chicken for turkey. That would be interesting.
 
2013-11-24 04:05:05 PM

Somacandra: Tyrone Slothrop: At least they didn't roll out Susan Stamberg's cranberry dish again.



Still could have been worse.


Pete Schweddy is surprised it took this long...
 
2013-11-24 04:05:13 PM

Infobahn: On Alton Brown's Nerdist podcast, he told the story of how Turkey is originally from Mexico.

So eat your damn Mexican food on Thursday, you commie pinko foodies.


Turkey aside, I love Alton Brown. I learned so much from him.
 
2013-11-24 04:05:43 PM

Rapmaster2000: If you wanted to be traditional you'd be eating venison and oysters.  So make this oyster stuffing recipe from Paul Prudhomme.  It is outstanding.

http://articles.philly.com/1988-11-23/food/26244585_1_place-oysters- lo uisiana-oyster-oyster-water


Oyster dressing has been a long standing tradition in my family, as most south La families.

Though, this year I ordered my trducken with the oyster dressing already in it.

And since I live in Florida I have to order my oyesters from Louisiana, but since they come frozen, that means I also get the oyster water!  I get them from here.  Tonys Seafood.

We are also having stuffed mirliton.

www.seriouseats.com
 
2013-11-24 04:05:57 PM
What do Frenchtard-Americans eat for Thanksgiving?
 
2013-11-24 04:07:06 PM

kd1s: There's a chicken with mushrooms and leeks recipe that I absolutely love. Uses white wine and heavy cream too. Very French in that respect.

But I bet I could sub out the chicken for turkey. That would be interesting.


Try it with duck or pheasant. I think you'll be happy.
 
2013-11-24 04:09:46 PM
Kind of fitting given that the French settled in North America long before the British pilgrims and then they and they're French Canadian descendants went on to explore and open the land before the British and their American descendants.
 
2013-11-24 04:10:14 PM

Xythero: Absurd!  Ham is not a traditional Thanksgiving dish.


Ham is for Easter.
 
2013-11-24 04:10:33 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)


Thaaaank  you! Been saying this for years.
 
2013-11-24 04:14:59 PM
Last year our christmas dinner was a gourmet French meal.  It was awesome.  My roommate's French girlfriend was staying with us.  Unfortunately, they chose to get married and get their own place.  My stomach is not happy with that decision.
 
2013-11-24 04:15:28 PM

Robo Beat: 12349876: TV's Vinnie: Turkey & stuffing only happens once a year. GTF away from me with your meddling, stupid coont!

Because whole turkeys and stuffing ingredients disappear from the grocery store from December-October.

FWIW, I've never seen whole cranberries available at any other time of the year.  The canned cranberry sauce is sometimes available in, say, June, but you have to scrape about a half-inch of dust off of it.


I made homemade cranberry sauce for Thanksgiving last year. It was amazing. This year's spread will include:

ham
sweet potato casserole (no marshmallows, you infidels - only pecans, brown sugar and buttah)
green bean casserole
mac n cheese
maple glazed baby carrots
stuffing
king hawaiian rolls

and for dessert:

custard pie
pumpkin pie
chocolate silk pie
(all homemade)

Lotsa leftovers too - I plan it that way :)
 
2013-11-24 04:16:39 PM

DrGunsforHands: Xythero: Absurd!  Ham is not a traditional Thanksgiving dish.

Ham is for Easter.


No, ham is for New Years.  *Lamb* is for Easter.
 
2013-11-24 04:17:20 PM

megarian: TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)

You shut your whore mouth.


I'm going to have to agree with Tofu.  Turkey is rather tasteless in my opinion.  It's all the "fixings" that make a turkey feast worth while.  Personally, I prefer prime rib or venison for t-day.  And some really good wine, of course.
 
2013-11-24 04:17:34 PM
Silly Americans. Thanksgiving is in October. And Turkey is for Christmas.
 
2013-11-24 04:18:55 PM
Cajun Thanksgiving:  Turkey, ham, venison, sweet potatos, cornbread dressing, rice dressing, green beans, baked macaroni and cheese, potato salad, fruit salad, pecan pie, and maybe some other desserts.  Yup, carb overload.
 
2013-11-24 04:20:12 PM

FloridaWombat: DrGunsforHands: Xythero: Absurd!  Ham is not a traditional Thanksgiving dish.

Ham is for Easter.

No, ham is for New Years.  *Lamb* is for Easter.


No, lamb is for Halloween. Ham is for Passover.
 
2013-11-24 04:20:41 PM
Canadian raccoon pan fried with Mexican beans.
African lion seared in yangu oil... with Russian cabbage on the side.
Cuban chayote desert.

That is the only way we roll for Thanksgiving.   We are definitely in that NPR 'groove'.

You can see the whole menu and recipe(s) at NPR's website.    Click on 'anything but American' tab, scroll down to select 'Lefty activism' menus
 
2013-11-24 04:21:18 PM

OgreMagi: megarian: TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)

You shut your whore mouth.

I'm going to have to agree with Tofu.  Turkey is rather tasteless in my opinion.  It's all the "fixings" that make a turkey feast worth while.  Personally, I prefer prime rib or venison for t-day.  And some really good wine, of course.


Send me your neglected turkey. I'll treat it right.
 
2013-11-24 04:26:44 PM

megarian: OgreMagi: megarian: TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)

You shut your whore mouth.

I'm going to have to agree with Tofu.  Turkey is rather tasteless in my opinion.  It's all the "fixings" that make a turkey feast worth while.  Personally, I prefer prime rib or venison for t-day.  And some really good wine, of course.

Send me your neglected turkey. I'll treat it right.


I keep offering you my drumstick, but you won't take it.
 
2013-11-24 04:27:39 PM

FloridaWombat: DrGunsforHands: Xythero: Absurd!  Ham is not a traditional Thanksgiving dish.

Ham is for Easter.

No, ham is for New Years.  *Lamb* is for Easter.


Nope. Hogjaw and black eyed peas for New Years
 
2013-11-24 04:29:37 PM

OgreMagi: megarian: OgreMagi: megarian: TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)

You shut your whore mouth.

I'm going to have to agree with Tofu.  Turkey is rather tasteless in my opinion.  It's all the "fixings" that make a turkey feast worth while.  Personally, I prefer prime rib or venison for t-day.  And some really good wine, of course.

Send me your neglected turkey. I'll treat it right.

I keep offering you my drumstick, but you won't take it.


Whaaa? I love drumsticks.

Oh. OH.
 
2013-11-24 04:33:19 PM

OgreMagi: megarian: TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)

You shut your whore mouth.

I'm going to have to agree with Tofu.  Turkey is rather tasteless in my opinion.  It's all the "fixings" that make a turkey feast worth while.  Personally, I prefer prime rib or venison for t-day.  And some really good wine, of course.


A couple of years ago, I made a turkey (I think from a recipe on allrecipes.com) where you soak the turkey in a spicy brine, and then before roasting you slide orange slices and pats of butter between the skin and the meat. The meat was delicious, and the skin deliciously crispy. I need to look up that recipe again.

Sure, it looked weird -- something like this:
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But I would definitely eat it again.

/Just think of it as turkey a l'orange.
 
2013-11-24 04:34:12 PM
I'm all for eschewing the traditional side dishes but I basically forgo turkey all year so it's really not the 'same old same old' by the time Thanksgiving rolls around.

/deep fried in peanut oil ftw
//actually better for you
///not greasy
 
2013-11-24 04:34:46 PM
Inmy day trolling meant something.
 
2013-11-24 04:35:18 PM

T-Servo: The Washington Post reported this morning that the tradition of marshmallows on sweet potatoes (which Mrs Servo hates) started with the French.

So any of you that eat marshmallows on 'yer sweet potatoes hate America.


Oh thank God - I hate that shiat.  I've never like sweet potatoes or marshmallows.  Good to know only communiss' and turriss' eat it.  I'll be sure to point that out to my in-laws this Thanksgiving.
 
2013-11-24 04:36:01 PM
The real problem is when people who only cook twice a year try to cook a 20 lb bird.

If the only other thing you can cook is spaghetti then I see how you can hate turkey.
 
2013-11-24 04:36:03 PM
Filthy commies.
 
2013-11-24 04:37:40 PM

doglover: Cilantro

Dial is cheaper and already a liquid you can find in your kitchen.


Heathen!
 
2013-11-24 04:38:06 PM

spidermilk: The real problem is when people who only cook twice a year try to cook a 20 lb bird.

If the only other thing you can cook is spaghetti then I see how you can hate turkey.


^This people.  Your mom can't cook worth shiat. Sorry.
 
2013-11-24 04:40:04 PM

lewismarktwo: spidermilk: The real problem is when people who only cook twice a year try to cook a 20 lb bird.

If the only other thing you can cook is spaghetti then I see how you can hate turkey.

^This people.  Your mom can't cook worth shiat. Sorry.


Or - maybe, just hear me out here, maybe taste is subjective and some people just don't like the same things you like.

HOLY shiat WHAT A CONCEPT!
 
2013-11-24 04:40:32 PM

digitalrain: FloridaWombat: DrGunsforHands: Xythero: Absurd!  Ham is not a traditional Thanksgiving dish.

Ham is for Easter.

No, ham is for New Years.  *Lamb* is for Easter.

Nope. Hogjaw and black eyed peas for New Years


You know how I know you grew up somewhere on the losing side of the Civil War?  Seriously, my best friend is from Texas and she forces those damn black eyed peas on me every year.
 
2013-11-24 04:40:41 PM

T-Servo: The Washington Post reported this morning that the tradition of marshmallows on sweet potatoes (which Mrs Servo hates) started with the French.

So any of you that eat marshmallows on 'yer sweet potatoes hate America.


That sounds disgusting.
 
2013-11-24 04:41:51 PM

grumpfuff: lewismarktwo: spidermilk: The real problem is when people who only cook twice a year try to cook a 20 lb bird.

If the only other thing you can cook is spaghetti then I see how you can hate turkey.

^This people.  Your mom can't cook worth shiat. Sorry.

Or - maybe, just hear me out here, maybe taste is subjective and some people just don't like the same things you like.

HOLY shiat WHAT A CONCEPT!


So do you like chicken?
 
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