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(NPR)   NPR declares war on Thanksgiving by declaring Americans should eschew traditional turkey, ham, stuffing, and mashed potatoes in favor of "French food"   (npr.org) divider line 205
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2013-11-24 03:14:21 PM
She lists 4 recipes.
1 Thai
1 French
1 American
and a generic dessert pastry.

Much ado about nothing.
 
2013-11-24 03:14:38 PM
Freedom fries, anyone?
 
2013-11-24 03:15:44 PM
I read this headline in Bill O'Reilly's voice.
 
2013-11-24 03:16:26 PM
In other words, if you're bored of turkey and stuffing and whatever, try something different. Its almost as if the food itself has nothing to do with the original meaning of the holiday, and thus eating the same shiat every year might not be as important as trying new things while enjoying family and the bounty of your life.
 
2013-11-24 03:16:34 PM
It didn't sound like they were declaring anything; overreact much?
 
2013-11-24 03:16:58 PM
Well damn. I was just gearing up to go on active duty for the War on Christmas. They have us invading a Macys on (CENSORED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF THE ATHEIST ARMY)
 
2013-11-24 03:17:24 PM
NPR is flat out trolling these days.
 
2013-11-24 03:17:56 PM
Turkey & stuffing only happens once a year. GTF away from me with your meddling, stupid coont!
 
2013-11-24 03:18:42 PM
i1211.photobucket.com
 
2013-11-24 03:19:10 PM
Absurd!  Ham is not a traditional Thanksgiving dish.
 
2013-11-24 03:19:29 PM
I enjoy French food. However, I will not show up to my family's thanksgiving with a pot of onion soup with toasted Gruyere and croutons on the top, or some imported foie gras.
 
2013-11-24 03:19:44 PM
Christmas already lost that war.
i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-24 03:20:23 PM
Cilantro

Dial is cheaper and already a liquid you can find in your kitchen.
 
2013-11-24 03:20:51 PM

TV's Vinnie: Turkey & stuffing only happens once a year. GTF away from me with your meddling, stupid coont!


Because whole turkeys and stuffing ingredients disappear from the grocery store from December-October.
 
2013-11-24 03:21:06 PM
As you're thinking about this year's Thanksgiving menu, you might be feeling a bit bored.

Or not, since the "Thanksgiving menu" occurs only once a year. I eat other foods (steak, fried chicken, broccoli) far more often throughout the year and am not sick of those.
 
2013-11-24 03:21:06 PM
 I've noticed that these examples of "War on (fill in the tradition)" tend to be other people choosing not to adhere to said tradition. If Costco decides they want to say Holiday instead of Christmas to be more inclusive that's their business. Stop throwing a tantrum just because others are liking what you don't like.
 
2013-11-24 03:21:13 PM
Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)
 
2013-11-24 03:21:18 PM

TV's Vinnie: Turkey & stuffing only happens once a year. GTF away from me with your meddling, stupid coont!


Yup you can take anything else, just leave my Thanksgiving turkeyfest and Christmas Ham pigouts alone, the rest of the year the Old Lady tries to get me to graze instead of eat, so those two feasts are guilt free bliss.
 
2013-11-24 03:21:22 PM
I stopped reading at cilantro, because cilantro should be no more than half a teaspoon in anything, if at all.
 
2013-11-24 03:21:24 PM
I am going to have a vegan thanksgiving this year. I'm not vegan, but I find real life trolling to be more fun these days.
 
2013-11-24 03:21:26 PM
thechive.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-11-24 03:21:37 PM
Subby sounds like

i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-24 03:21:40 PM
All of those dishes sound good.
But, not on Turkey Day.
 
2013-11-24 03:21:50 PM

Sugarbombs: Christmas already lost that war.
[i.imgur.com image 640x354]


"Deck the hows, with bowels of Howie"
 
2013-11-24 03:22:15 PM
In today's edition of Conservative Poutrage...
 
2013-11-24 03:22:17 PM

12349876: TV's Vinnie: Turkey & stuffing only happens once a year. GTF away from me with your meddling, stupid coont!

Because whole turkeys and stuffing ingredients disappear from the grocery store from December-October.


FWIW, I've never seen whole cranberries available at any other time of the year.  The canned cranberry sauce is sometimes available in, say, June, but you have to scrape about a half-inch of dust off of it.
 
2013-11-24 03:22:18 PM
That does it

UNFUND PBS!!!!
 
2013-11-24 03:22:47 PM

farkinglizardking: I enjoy French food. However, I will not show up to my family's thanksgiving with a pot of onion soup with toasted Gruyere and croutons on the top, or some imported foie gras.


You could do that with my family, every holiday really.
 
2013-11-24 03:23:05 PM

SteveO_MN: I am going to have a vegan thanksgiving this year. I'm not vegan, but I find real life trolling to be more fun these days.


That would earn you a firm beating in my family. I mean, you could troll them with the meal at first, but if you didn't have a turkey stashed away violence would ensue.
 
2013-11-24 03:23:33 PM

12349876: TV's Vinnie: Turkey & stuffing only happens once a year. GTF away from me with your meddling, stupid coont!

Because whole turkeys and stuffing ingredients disappear from the grocery store from December-October.


Whole turkeys that you can deep fry and share with a group of people for one day instead of eating leftover deep fried turkey for two weeks straight do.

You got me on the stuffing though.
 
2013-11-24 03:23:50 PM

MFAWG: farkinglizardking: I enjoy French food. However, I will not show up to my family's thanksgiving with a pot of onion soup with toasted Gruyere and croutons on the top, or some imported foie gras.

You could do that with my family, every holiday really.


I live in Florida and a lot of my family are Baptists. So yeah... I don't believe I need to say more.
 
2013-11-24 03:23:59 PM
We're having a goose instead of a turkey.
 
2013-11-24 03:25:18 PM
What we really need to do is organize protests at stores open on Thanksgiving. This instance of corporate abuse is almost enough to turn me commie....
 
2013-11-24 03:25:26 PM

FrancoFile: She lists 4 recipes.
1 Thai
1 French
1 American
and a generic dessert pastry.

Much ado about nothing stuffing.

 
2013-11-24 03:25:55 PM
American tradition is to take anything delicious that other cultures eat, and try it with endless variations. So one of these recipes may someday mutate into a traditional Thanksgiving entree, and no one would bat an eye.

/Though I really do like Thanksgiving turkey.
//I eat cherry pie instead of pumpkin pie, though.
 
2013-11-24 03:26:27 PM

CujoQuarrel: That does it

UNFUND PBS!!!!


Why does NPR hate America?

:)
 
2013-11-24 03:26:41 PM

Robo Beat: 12349876: TV's Vinnie: Turkey & stuffing only happens once a year. GTF away from me with your meddling, stupid coont!

Because whole turkeys and stuffing ingredients disappear from the grocery store from December-October.

FWIW, I've never seen whole cranberries available at any other time of the year.  The canned cranberry sauce is sometimes available in, say, June, but you have to scrape about a half-inch of dust off of it.


I'll give you cranberries.  They're quite seasonal though I'm sure if the demand was there they'd figure out a way to grow in South America or something like the other berries.

But your local amusement park always has roasted turkey legs. yum yum
 
2013-11-24 03:28:07 PM
Duck sounds really damn good! Mmmmmmmmmmmmm. duck.
 
2013-11-24 03:28:51 PM
The French are integral to the history of our nation.  Without them it's conceivable that we would not exist.  Whatever recent history they may have, they still deserve our respect and our thanks.  I'd be happy to recognize them on Thanksgiving and remember the sacrifices they made so that our nation could be born.
 
2013-11-24 03:28:55 PM
At least they didn't roll out Susan Stamberg's cranberry dish again.
 
2013-11-24 03:29:54 PM
But, but, but, BUT..... TRADITION! We should continue to do things exactly the same; because, we've always done it like that.

/ TRAAAADITOON! TRADITION!
 
2013-11-24 03:29:57 PM
In Colombia they get the turkey drunk on cane liquor before they whack it.  Says its keeps the muscles and meats from tensing up.

I like the left overs.  Turkey sandwiches and turkey gumbo.

/i do eat the neck
 
2013-11-24 03:30:12 PM

shinji3i: 12349876: TV's Vinnie: Turkey & stuffing only happens once a year. GTF away from me with your meddling, stupid coont!

Because whole turkeys and stuffing ingredients disappear from the grocery store from December-October.

Whole turkeys that you can deep fry and share with a group of people for one day instead of eating leftover deep fried turkey for two weeks straight do.

You got me on the stuffing though.


I somehow had whole turkeys for Christmas growing up.
 
2013-11-24 03:30:37 PM
We're having ham this year because my family is pretty meh about turkey. I haven't eaten turkey since last year and I don't miss it.

What I really want to try is Jamie Oliver's jerk ham recipe. It uses a ton of ingredients and takes all day but damn did it look good. http://www.channel4.com/4food/recipes/chefs/jamie-oliver/christmas-je r k-ham-recipe
 
2013-11-24 03:31:25 PM
 
2013-11-24 03:32:20 PM

iheartscotch: But, but, but, BUT..... TRADITION! We should continue to do things exactly the same; because, we've always done it like that.

/ TRAAAADITOON! TRADITION!



Brilliant Fiddler On The Roof reference.
 
2013-11-24 03:32:24 PM
Nope. Any other holiday, yes. Thanksgiving, tradition.
 
2013-11-24 03:35:04 PM
Just remember to eschew each bite 32 times before you swallow.
 
2013-11-24 03:36:10 PM
I'm making brioche french toast for thanksgiving breakfast, course that's a good 8 hours before the tryptophan coma.
 
2013-11-24 03:36:12 PM

Inquisitive Inquisitor: The French are integral to the history of our nation.  Without them it's conceivable that we would not exist.  Whatever recent history they may have, they still deserve our respect and our thanks.  I'd be happy to recognize them on Thanksgiving and remember the sacrifices they made so that our nation could be born.


That point could be argued. France isn't the same country that it was in 1776. The France that came to our aid was a powerful country, with a monarchy. Also, it wasn't French benevolence that convinced them to help us; they just wanted to poke the Brits in the eye and damage the British war effort. Plus, we paid them back during world war 2.
 
2013-11-24 03:36:23 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)


You shut your whore mouth.
 
2013-11-24 03:40:18 PM
Duh. If you ask Norm Abram what kind of house you should buy he's not going to say "a nice little adobe in New Mexico."
 
2013-11-24 03:41:28 PM
I make squash soup every year, and the recipe isn't too different from hers.  It's seasonal.  Get over it.
 
2013-11-24 03:43:42 PM

Apos: iheartscotch: But, but, but, BUT..... TRADITION! We should continue to do things exactly the same; because, we've always done it like that.

/ TRAAAADITOON! TRADITION!


Brilliant Fiddler On The Roof reference.


Thanks!

Sometimes; I think we live in our own, personal Anatevkas. For some, their Anatevka may be a specific holiday celebration. For others, their Anatevka may be a dinner at a Chinese restaurant. But, for us, Anatevka is a big mean guy; that's coming to kill us

/ MOAR references; the last line is the one that really gives it away
 
2013-11-24 03:47:06 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: At least they didn't roll out Susan Stamberg's cranberry dish again.


i.imgur.com

Still could have been worse.
 
2013-11-24 03:47:12 PM
The Washington Post reported this morning that the tradition of marshmallows on sweet potatoes (which Mrs Servo hates) started with the French.

So any of you that eat marshmallows on 'yer sweet potatoes hate America.
 
2013-11-24 03:48:22 PM
GIVE ME TURKEY OR GIVE ME DEATH!

/or gravy,i'd actually be good with just gravy
//and pie
 
2013-11-24 03:50:37 PM

12349876: Robo Beat: 12349876: TV's Vinnie: Turkey & stuffing only happens once a year. GTF away from me with your meddling, stupid coont!

Because whole turkeys and stuffing ingredients disappear from the grocery store from December-October.

FWIW, I've never seen whole cranberries available at any other time of the year.  The canned cranberry sauce is sometimes available in, say, June, but you have to scrape about a half-inch of dust off of it.

I'll give you cranberries.  They're quite seasonal though I'm sure if the demand was there they'd figure out a way to grow in South America or something like the other berries.

But your local amusement park always has roasted turkey legs. yum yum


I'm pretty sure you can get frozen cranberries almost year-round.
 
2013-11-24 03:50:41 PM
If you wanted to be traditional you'd be eating venison and oysters.  So make this oyster stuffing recipe from Paul Prudhomme.  It is outstanding.

http://articles.philly.com/1988-11-23/food/26244585_1_place-oysters- lo uisiana-oyster-oyster-water
 
2013-11-24 03:50:57 PM
All those recipes sound awesome.

And, please, for the love of all that is holy, do NOT give those right-wing douches ideas!
 
2013-11-24 03:50:58 PM
Also, if you make gravy (and you're not a wimpy infrahuman who uses those powdered gravy mixes), you are using hard French cooking techniques.  Any soup that goes with Thanksgiving is probably made with a mirepoix.  There is no shame to adding French side dishes or even main dishes to you feast.

But: bird, stuffing, potatoes.

I regard sweet potatoes as acceptable break from regular potatoes; duck, goose, or even chicken to be an acceptable substitute for turkey.  There is no substituting for stuffing.  That includes calling stuffing "dressing" you stupid Minnesotans.  Also "with" is preposition, not an adverb, just so you know
 
2013-11-24 03:52:55 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)


Yes. Yes it does. If you roast it, like you would a large chicken, it doesn't actually seem that finicky. But the meat just does not taste very good. If it were a heritage bird, I'd be curious enough to try it, but it always seems to be Butterball. Ugh. I don't eat turkey anymore, even on Thanksgiving. There's no point.

Duck would be a nice change of pace...
 
2013-11-24 03:53:19 PM
Spicy Thai Pumpkin Soup with Crab And Cilantro
Seared Duck Breast with Fresh Figs and Black Currant Sauce
Intense Chocolate Custards with Nibs

Wow, those sound amazingly good
 
2013-11-24 03:53:38 PM

Rapmaster2000: If you wanted to be traditional you'd be eating venison and oysters.  So make this oyster stuffing recipe from Paul Prudhomme.  It is outstanding.

http://articles.philly.com/1988-11-23/food/26244585_1_place-oysters- lo uisiana-oyster-oyster-water


nom nom nom
 
2013-11-24 03:55:18 PM

iheartscotch: But, but, but, BUT..... TRADITION! We should continue to do things exactly the same; because, we've always done it like that.

/ TRAAAADITOON! TRADITION!



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On the other hand...French food can be very tasty!
 
2013-11-24 03:56:54 PM

farkinglizardking: I enjoy French food. However, I will not show up to my family's thanksgiving with a pot of onion soup with toasted Gruyere and croutons on the top, or some imported foie gras.


Or why not forturkey with some foie gras in there? PS, I think I just came up with the next great culinary trend (disgusting as that would be)!
 
2013-11-24 04:02:35 PM
On Alton Brown's Nerdist podcast, he told the story of how Turkey is originally from Mexico.

So eat your damn Mexican food on Thursday, you commie pinko foodies.
 
2013-11-24 04:03:11 PM
There's a chicken with mushrooms and leeks recipe that I absolutely love. Uses white wine and heavy cream too. Very French in that respect.

But I bet I could sub out the chicken for turkey. That would be interesting.
 
2013-11-24 04:05:05 PM

Somacandra: Tyrone Slothrop: At least they didn't roll out Susan Stamberg's cranberry dish again.



Still could have been worse.


Pete Schweddy is surprised it took this long...
 
2013-11-24 04:05:13 PM

Infobahn: On Alton Brown's Nerdist podcast, he told the story of how Turkey is originally from Mexico.

So eat your damn Mexican food on Thursday, you commie pinko foodies.


Turkey aside, I love Alton Brown. I learned so much from him.
 
2013-11-24 04:05:43 PM

Rapmaster2000: If you wanted to be traditional you'd be eating venison and oysters.  So make this oyster stuffing recipe from Paul Prudhomme.  It is outstanding.

http://articles.philly.com/1988-11-23/food/26244585_1_place-oysters- lo uisiana-oyster-oyster-water


Oyster dressing has been a long standing tradition in my family, as most south La families.

Though, this year I ordered my trducken with the oyster dressing already in it.

And since I live in Florida I have to order my oyesters from Louisiana, but since they come frozen, that means I also get the oyster water!  I get them from here.  Tonys Seafood.

We are also having stuffed mirliton.

www.seriouseats.com
 
2013-11-24 04:05:57 PM
What do Frenchtard-Americans eat for Thanksgiving?
 
2013-11-24 04:07:06 PM

kd1s: There's a chicken with mushrooms and leeks recipe that I absolutely love. Uses white wine and heavy cream too. Very French in that respect.

But I bet I could sub out the chicken for turkey. That would be interesting.


Try it with duck or pheasant. I think you'll be happy.
 
2013-11-24 04:09:46 PM
Kind of fitting given that the French settled in North America long before the British pilgrims and then they and they're French Canadian descendants went on to explore and open the land before the British and their American descendants.
 
2013-11-24 04:10:14 PM

Xythero: Absurd!  Ham is not a traditional Thanksgiving dish.


Ham is for Easter.
 
2013-11-24 04:10:33 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)


Thaaaank  you! Been saying this for years.
 
2013-11-24 04:14:59 PM
Last year our christmas dinner was a gourmet French meal.  It was awesome.  My roommate's French girlfriend was staying with us.  Unfortunately, they chose to get married and get their own place.  My stomach is not happy with that decision.
 
2013-11-24 04:15:28 PM

Robo Beat: 12349876: TV's Vinnie: Turkey & stuffing only happens once a year. GTF away from me with your meddling, stupid coont!

Because whole turkeys and stuffing ingredients disappear from the grocery store from December-October.

FWIW, I've never seen whole cranberries available at any other time of the year.  The canned cranberry sauce is sometimes available in, say, June, but you have to scrape about a half-inch of dust off of it.


I made homemade cranberry sauce for Thanksgiving last year. It was amazing. This year's spread will include:

ham
sweet potato casserole (no marshmallows, you infidels - only pecans, brown sugar and buttah)
green bean casserole
mac n cheese
maple glazed baby carrots
stuffing
king hawaiian rolls

and for dessert:

custard pie
pumpkin pie
chocolate silk pie
(all homemade)

Lotsa leftovers too - I plan it that way :)
 
2013-11-24 04:16:39 PM

DrGunsforHands: Xythero: Absurd!  Ham is not a traditional Thanksgiving dish.

Ham is for Easter.


No, ham is for New Years.  *Lamb* is for Easter.
 
2013-11-24 04:17:20 PM

megarian: TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)

You shut your whore mouth.


I'm going to have to agree with Tofu.  Turkey is rather tasteless in my opinion.  It's all the "fixings" that make a turkey feast worth while.  Personally, I prefer prime rib or venison for t-day.  And some really good wine, of course.
 
2013-11-24 04:17:34 PM
Silly Americans. Thanksgiving is in October. And Turkey is for Christmas.
 
2013-11-24 04:18:55 PM
Cajun Thanksgiving:  Turkey, ham, venison, sweet potatos, cornbread dressing, rice dressing, green beans, baked macaroni and cheese, potato salad, fruit salad, pecan pie, and maybe some other desserts.  Yup, carb overload.
 
2013-11-24 04:20:12 PM

FloridaWombat: DrGunsforHands: Xythero: Absurd!  Ham is not a traditional Thanksgiving dish.

Ham is for Easter.

No, ham is for New Years.  *Lamb* is for Easter.


No, lamb is for Halloween. Ham is for Passover.
 
2013-11-24 04:20:41 PM
Canadian raccoon pan fried with Mexican beans.
African lion seared in yangu oil... with Russian cabbage on the side.
Cuban chayote desert.

That is the only way we roll for Thanksgiving.   We are definitely in that NPR 'groove'.

You can see the whole menu and recipe(s) at NPR's website.    Click on 'anything but American' tab, scroll down to select 'Lefty activism' menus
 
2013-11-24 04:21:18 PM

OgreMagi: megarian: TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)

You shut your whore mouth.

I'm going to have to agree with Tofu.  Turkey is rather tasteless in my opinion.  It's all the "fixings" that make a turkey feast worth while.  Personally, I prefer prime rib or venison for t-day.  And some really good wine, of course.


Send me your neglected turkey. I'll treat it right.
 
2013-11-24 04:26:44 PM

megarian: OgreMagi: megarian: TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)

You shut your whore mouth.

I'm going to have to agree with Tofu.  Turkey is rather tasteless in my opinion.  It's all the "fixings" that make a turkey feast worth while.  Personally, I prefer prime rib or venison for t-day.  And some really good wine, of course.

Send me your neglected turkey. I'll treat it right.


I keep offering you my drumstick, but you won't take it.
 
2013-11-24 04:27:39 PM

FloridaWombat: DrGunsforHands: Xythero: Absurd!  Ham is not a traditional Thanksgiving dish.

Ham is for Easter.

No, ham is for New Years.  *Lamb* is for Easter.


Nope. Hogjaw and black eyed peas for New Years
 
2013-11-24 04:29:37 PM

OgreMagi: megarian: OgreMagi: megarian: TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)

You shut your whore mouth.

I'm going to have to agree with Tofu.  Turkey is rather tasteless in my opinion.  It's all the "fixings" that make a turkey feast worth while.  Personally, I prefer prime rib or venison for t-day.  And some really good wine, of course.

Send me your neglected turkey. I'll treat it right.

I keep offering you my drumstick, but you won't take it.


Whaaa? I love drumsticks.

Oh. OH.
 
2013-11-24 04:33:19 PM

OgreMagi: megarian: TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)

You shut your whore mouth.

I'm going to have to agree with Tofu.  Turkey is rather tasteless in my opinion.  It's all the "fixings" that make a turkey feast worth while.  Personally, I prefer prime rib or venison for t-day.  And some really good wine, of course.


A couple of years ago, I made a turkey (I think from a recipe on allrecipes.com) where you soak the turkey in a spicy brine, and then before roasting you slide orange slices and pats of butter between the skin and the meat. The meat was delicious, and the skin deliciously crispy. I need to look up that recipe again.

Sure, it looked weird -- something like this:
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But I would definitely eat it again.

/Just think of it as turkey a l'orange.
 
2013-11-24 04:34:12 PM
I'm all for eschewing the traditional side dishes but I basically forgo turkey all year so it's really not the 'same old same old' by the time Thanksgiving rolls around.

/deep fried in peanut oil ftw
//actually better for you
///not greasy
 
2013-11-24 04:34:46 PM
Inmy day trolling meant something.
 
2013-11-24 04:35:18 PM

T-Servo: The Washington Post reported this morning that the tradition of marshmallows on sweet potatoes (which Mrs Servo hates) started with the French.

So any of you that eat marshmallows on 'yer sweet potatoes hate America.


Oh thank God - I hate that shiat.  I've never like sweet potatoes or marshmallows.  Good to know only communiss' and turriss' eat it.  I'll be sure to point that out to my in-laws this Thanksgiving.
 
2013-11-24 04:36:01 PM
The real problem is when people who only cook twice a year try to cook a 20 lb bird.

If the only other thing you can cook is spaghetti then I see how you can hate turkey.
 
2013-11-24 04:36:03 PM
Filthy commies.
 
2013-11-24 04:37:40 PM

doglover: Cilantro

Dial is cheaper and already a liquid you can find in your kitchen.


Heathen!
 
2013-11-24 04:38:06 PM

spidermilk: The real problem is when people who only cook twice a year try to cook a 20 lb bird.

If the only other thing you can cook is spaghetti then I see how you can hate turkey.


^This people.  Your mom can't cook worth shiat. Sorry.
 
2013-11-24 04:40:04 PM

lewismarktwo: spidermilk: The real problem is when people who only cook twice a year try to cook a 20 lb bird.

If the only other thing you can cook is spaghetti then I see how you can hate turkey.

^This people.  Your mom can't cook worth shiat. Sorry.


Or - maybe, just hear me out here, maybe taste is subjective and some people just don't like the same things you like.

HOLY shiat WHAT A CONCEPT!
 
2013-11-24 04:40:32 PM

digitalrain: FloridaWombat: DrGunsforHands: Xythero: Absurd!  Ham is not a traditional Thanksgiving dish.

Ham is for Easter.

No, ham is for New Years.  *Lamb* is for Easter.

Nope. Hogjaw and black eyed peas for New Years


You know how I know you grew up somewhere on the losing side of the Civil War?  Seriously, my best friend is from Texas and she forces those damn black eyed peas on me every year.
 
2013-11-24 04:40:41 PM

T-Servo: The Washington Post reported this morning that the tradition of marshmallows on sweet potatoes (which Mrs Servo hates) started with the French.

So any of you that eat marshmallows on 'yer sweet potatoes hate America.


That sounds disgusting.
 
2013-11-24 04:41:51 PM

grumpfuff: lewismarktwo: spidermilk: The real problem is when people who only cook twice a year try to cook a 20 lb bird.

If the only other thing you can cook is spaghetti then I see how you can hate turkey.

^This people.  Your mom can't cook worth shiat. Sorry.

Or - maybe, just hear me out here, maybe taste is subjective and some people just don't like the same things you like.

HOLY shiat WHAT A CONCEPT!


So do you like chicken?
 
2013-11-24 04:44:50 PM
This just in:

TURKEY SUCKS
 
2013-11-24 04:46:58 PM
Let's all be thankful that we're not at weak, and endangered as the Native Americans....oh what a great holiday!...more guns!
 
2013-11-24 04:49:24 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)


settle down Tofu face
 
2013-11-24 04:52:56 PM

Rapmaster2000: If you wanted to be traditional you'd be eating venison and oysters.  So make this oyster stuffing recipe from Paul Prudhomme Dom Deluise.


FTFY

\Ever seen them in the same room together?
 
2013-11-24 04:53:01 PM
reincarnation_mutation: Silly Americans. Thanksgiving is in October. And Turkey lasagna  is for Christmas.

FTFY
 
2013-11-24 04:55:11 PM
I see a lot of people quibbling over how turkey tastes in here. I'm confused by that. I was under the impression that by the time dinner rolls around on Thanksgiving you're supposed to be too drunk to be even vaguely aware of what you're eating.

My dad's ham recipe uses "beers" as a unit of time.
 
2013-11-24 04:56:35 PM

doglover: Cilantro

Dial is cheaper and already a liquid you can find in your kitchen.



Quick Fresh Tomatillo Salsa
1 pound tomatillos, husked and rinsed
2 to 4 jalapeño or serrano chiles, seeded for a milder salsa, coarsely chopped
1/4 cup chopped onion, soaked for 5 minutes in cold water, drained and rinsed
Two tablespoons liquid Dial (to taste)
Salt to taste (about 1/2 teaspoon)
1/4 to 1/2 cup water, as needed

/For that authentic "Soap of the Border" flavor.
 
2013-11-24 04:58:42 PM

SteveO_MN: I am going to have a vegan thanksgiving this year. I'm not vegan, but I find real life trolling to be more fun these days.


images4.wikia.nocookie.net

Marie made a tofurky for you
 
2013-11-24 05:00:16 PM
I sent my daughter off to college a heterosexual carnivore. They're sending me back a lesbian, possibly bisexual vegetarian.

Vegetarians are the most annoying people on the farking planet. I want my money back. Her new girlfriend is nice though. They're settling down in Chicago after graduation. fark both of them for not eating turkey though.
 
2013-11-24 05:01:14 PM

Hermione_Granger: fark both of them


Well, if you insist...
 
2013-11-24 05:02:03 PM

FloridaWombat: my best friend is from Texas and she forces those damn black eyed peas on me every year.


I always thought black-eyed peas were tasty, with or without pork-based accompaniments, no matter which day of the year they were served on. I guess YMMV. Turkey? OK, I guess. I'd like to go way traditionalist and have venison steaks wrapped in bacon and grilled, with squash and beans and oysters on the side. And pie. No holiday is complete without pie.
crow202.org
 
2013-11-24 05:02:22 PM

Hermione_Granger: I sent my daughter off to college a heterosexual carnivore. They're sending me back a lesbian, possibly bisexual vegetarian.

Vegetarians are the most annoying people on the farking planet. I want my money back. Her new girlfriend is nice though. They're settling down in Chicago after graduation. fark both of them for not eating turkey though.


giggity.
 
2013-11-24 05:07:20 PM

Nick Nostril: doglover: Cilantro

Dial is cheaper and already a liquid you can find in your kitchen.

Heathen!


It's genetic.  For some people cilantro smells and tastes like soap.
 
2013-11-24 05:09:42 PM

OgreMagi: megarian: TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)

You shut your whore mouth.

I'm going to have to agree with Tofu.  Turkey is rather tasteless in my opinion.  It's all the "fixings" that make a turkey feast worth while.  Personally, I prefer prime rib or venison for t-day.  And some really good wine, of course.


The problem with turkey is that it dries out easy, you absolutely must brine it.

I recommend Alton Brown's recipe or any brine really.
 
2013-11-24 05:10:08 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)


Thaw bird, start smoker, leave bird in smoker, drink beer. How hard is that?
 
2013-11-24 05:15:03 PM
You know what else goes great with French Cuisine on Thanksgiving?  White Linens!
 
2013-11-24 05:15:05 PM
You should read this in Lafayette's voice. We wouldn't have a goddam country if it weren't for Lafayette. Ever wonder why so many places here bear his Frenchy name? There's a good farking reason for it.
 
2013-11-24 05:18:36 PM

Robo Beat: 12349876: TV's Vinnie: Turkey & stuffing only happens once a year. GTF away from me with your meddling, stupid coont!

Because whole turkeys and stuffing ingredients disappear from the grocery store from December-October.

FWIW, I've never seen whole cranberries available at any other time of the year.  The canned cranberry sauce is sometimes available in, say, June, but you have to scrape about a half-inch of dust off of it.


Freezer section, or if your grocery is especially draconian, buy a bag of fresh now and freeze them yourself. Fruit is amazingly resilient for freezing, generally.
 
2013-11-24 05:23:50 PM
Turkey basted with pepper bacon grease is where it's at. And the bacon's not bad either!
 
2013-11-24 05:32:23 PM
Tradition is like religion in that it was started by our ignorant-ass ancestors and some people will shiat themselves with rage if it might be optional, or indeed even vary from person to person. Treat it as an old, comfortable walking stick to help you along your path, neither a crutch nor a bludgeon, and you will be fine. Try and shove it up my nose, and I'll break it over your head.

That all said, we've got a nice turkey picked out and I'm looking forward to my dad's pumpkin pie again this year. I hope whatever everybody else is having for dinner is just as good.
 
2013-11-24 05:37:02 PM

HypnozombieX: I've noticed that these examples of "War on (fill in the tradition)" tend to be other people choosing not to adhere to said tradition. If Costco decides they want to say Holiday instead of Christmas to be more inclusive that's their business. Stop throwing a tantrum just because others are liking what you don't like.


There is also the "War on Women", and I don't adhere to them either. More like slide in and out.
 
2013-11-24 05:39:27 PM
Mi es chew turkey.
 
2013-11-24 05:39:52 PM

Xythero: Absurd!  Ham is not a traditional Thanksgiving dish.


We are having ham this year. My SIL has found a meat company that makes the best damn smoked ham I've ever tasted. We had it last year at Christmas and everyone loved it so much, even the former "ham haters," that we decided to have it this year for Thanksgiving (since the kid and SIL can't come for Christmas this year -- damn inconsiderate to have family other than ours that you want to see once a year ;)

Ham is perfectly fine for Thanksgiving, especially since I usually cook a turkey several times a year for one reason or another so it isn't a once-a-year thing for us, whereas the huge specialty smoked ham most certainly is.
 
2013-11-24 05:42:52 PM

shortymac: The problem with turkey is that it dries out easy, you absolutely must brine it.

I recommend Alton Brown's recipe or any brine really.


Brine it ... then fry it.

/the only way to make me eat a turkey
//making cornish hens this year
 
2013-11-24 05:43:56 PM

mark12A: What we really need to do is organize protests at stores open on Thanksgiving. This instance of corporate abuse is almost enough to turn me commie....


I have never shopped on Black Friday, and I will never shop on Thanksgiving itself. That's my protest. The four-day weekend is about family, not driving ourselves crazy in stores, and we've always felt that way.
 
2013-11-24 05:45:35 PM
Thanksgiving is the quintessential American holiday, beyond turkey with stuffing and cranberry dressing the menus are probably as diverse as the country itself.  If someone has the time and energy to be angered by the menu choices of other people's Thanksgivings then perhaps they should remember the original meaning of the holiday itself.  Clearly they have quite the bounty and freedom to be thankful for.
 
2013-11-24 05:58:04 PM
Smoked, fried, or roasted, brine that bird.

/worth the work
//vive la différence
 
2013-11-24 06:02:47 PM

OgreMagi: Last year our christmas dinner was a gourmet French meal.  It was awesome.  My roommate's French girlfriend was staying with us.  Unfortunately, they chose to get married and get their own place.  My stomach is not happy with that decision.


I had me a French girlfriend, loved the way she talked.

We spent our afternoons watching the TV.
 
2013-11-24 06:05:23 PM

silvervial: mark12A: What we really need to do is organize protests at stores open on Thanksgiving. This instance of corporate abuse is almost enough to turn me commie....

I have never shopped on Black Friday, and I will never shop on Thanksgiving itself. That's my protest. The four-day weekend is about family, not driving ourselves crazy in stores, and we've always felt that way.


Agreed.  Even worse is the new crap of shopping on Thanksgiving.  I have nothing against people who want to work that day. Perhaps they have no family in the area and like the idea of getting holiday pay.  But too many companies are making it mandatory.  My sister was scheduled to work t-day against her wishes.  She assumes she will be losing her job because she would rather spend the day with her family.

If they won't give her the day off, I will be publicly denouncing the well known company.  We're hoping it was a mistake because they had a sign-up sheet to work t-day and she didn't sign it.
 
2013-11-24 06:06:13 PM
I am making Sage Sausage Dressing, Orange Cranberry Sauce, Grilled Duck Breast, Duck Confit, Duck Demi Glace, Garlic Mashed Potatoes, and Sweet Potato Casserole
 
2013-11-24 06:14:49 PM
The nerve of this lady. One of the recipes calls for duck fat. Does she just assume I live near the park.
 
kab
2013-11-24 06:22:55 PM
Why the sick tag, subby?   Turkey is boring as fark.
 
2013-11-24 06:29:13 PM

Hermione_Granger: I sent my daughter off to college a heterosexual carnivore. They're sending me back a lesbian, possibly bisexual vegetarian.

Vegetarians are the most annoying people on the farking planet. I want my money back. Her new girlfriend is nice though. They're settling down in Chicago after graduation. fark both of them for not eating turkey though.


As nature has taught us, you she was probably a vegetarian when you sent her off to college.
 
2013-11-24 06:44:20 PM

aerojockey: Also, if you make gravy (and you're not a wimpy infrahuman who uses those powdered gravy mixes), you are using hard French cooking techniques.  Any soup that goes with Thanksgiving is probably made with a mirepoix.  There is no shame to adding French side dishes or even main dishes to you feast.

But: bird, stuffing, potatoes.

I regard sweet potatoes as acceptable break from regular potatoes; duck, goose, or even chicken to be an acceptable substitute for turkey.  There is no substituting for stuffing.  That includes calling stuffing "dressing" you stupid Minnesotans.  Also "with" is preposition, not an adverb, just so you know


In my household we make both stuffing and dressing. The stuffing is what goes inside the bird. The dressing is what goes in the big baking dish on the side. Both go great with giblet gravy. For my money, the stuffing is the better of the two, but it usually gets finished off with the Thanksgiving meal and there's never enough of it for leftovers. Hence, the separate baking dish of dressing, which is solely for leftovers.

Hey, at least we don't call it this:

media.ifunny.com
 
2013-11-24 06:47:56 PM
Benjamin Franklin would have to wonder why you are eating the US national bird. What next? Bald Eagle pie?
 
2013-11-24 06:53:45 PM

gregoropolis: The nerve of this lady. One of the recipes calls for duck fat. Does she just assume I live near the park.


That is what irks me about these recipes.  "Here are fifteen things in minute quantities you don't have.  Mix them in this precise order over the next 90 minutes."

I am going to spend 10 minutes eating this.  I am not going to spend 90 minutes making it.  I don't have most of those ingredients and I am not going to buy them for this one dish.
 
2013-11-24 07:01:48 PM
An added note.  I'm single, live alone, and my family lives 400 miles away.  I ended up with no plans for the holiday so it looks like my t-day feast will be whatever fast food restaurant is open.  My family wanted me to make the trip down, but the holiday traffic is so bad it would turn the seven hour trip into at least twelve hours.  No farking way.


/the friends I normally spend the holiday with suffered a family death a couple of weeks ago
//so all plans were cancelled
 
2013-11-24 07:04:13 PM

shinji3i: 12349876: TV's Vinnie: Turkey & stuffing only happens once a year. GTF away from me with your meddling, stupid coont!

Because whole turkeys and stuffing ingredients disappear from the grocery store from December-October.

Whole turkeys that you can deep fry and share with a group of people for one day instead of eating leftover deep fried turkey for two weeks straight do.

You got me on the stuffing though.


Stuffing?  It's bread, onions, celery, and seasonings.  Depending on the person, you might use cornbread, sausage, shrooms, or various other additives, but either way, available all year.
 
2013-11-24 07:07:14 PM

Inquisitive Inquisitor: The French are integral to the history of our nation.  Without them it's conceivable that we would not exist.  Whatever recent history they may have, they still deserve our respect and our thanks.  I'd be happy to recognize them on Thanksgiving and remember the sacrifices they made so that our nation could be born.


Sadly, this is true.
 
2013-11-24 07:09:45 PM
Merde.
 
2013-11-24 07:12:32 PM

gregoropolis: The nerve of this lady. One of the recipes calls for duck fat. Does she just assume I live near the park.


Yea, and it takes along time to clean and pluck them too I make friends with the homeless guys and put my order in with them. Saves me a lot of time.
 
2013-11-24 07:13:02 PM

Kit Fister: In other words, if you're bored of turkey and stuffing and whatever, try something different. Its almost as if the food itself has nothing to do with the original meaning of the holiday, and thus eating the same shiat every year might not be as important as trying new things while enjoying family and the bounty of your life.


You have turkey and Stuffing one day every year, How is it you are bored?

OgreMagi: An added note.  I'm single, live alone, and my family lives 400 miles away.  I ended up with no plans for the holiday so it looks like my t-day feast will be whatever fast food restaurant is open.  My family wanted me to make the trip down, but the holiday traffic is so bad it would turn the seven hour trip into at least twelve hours.  No farking way.


/the friends I normally spend the holiday with suffered a family death a couple of weeks ago
//so all plans were cancelled


Try and find a bob evans or even a Cracker Barrel.
 
2013-11-24 07:13:03 PM

OgreMagi: it looks like my t-day feast will be whatever fast food restaurant is open.


I take the bus to work most days. My bus stop is right next to a Jack-In-The-Box. This fast-food place has had signs up saying "Open Thanksgiving!" for the last 2 weeks. One of my co-workers is in roughly the same spot as you are (no family nearby, all friends out of town) so she was planning on having a turkey TV dinner. I told her that at least some JITBs were open Thanksgiving, and she said something like, "Oh wow. That sounds horrible. I might have to go there."

Note that YMMV and all that. I think you could do worse than a JITB Thanksgiving, but that's just me.
 
2013-11-24 07:15:44 PM

danceswithcrows: OgreMagi: it looks like my t-day feast will be whatever fast food restaurant is open.

I take the bus to work most days. My bus stop is right next to a Jack-In-The-Box. This fast-food place has had signs up saying "Open Thanksgiving!" for the last 2 weeks. One of my co-workers is in roughly the same spot as you are (no family nearby, all friends out of town) so she was planning on having a turkey TV dinner. I told her that at least some JITBs were open Thanksgiving, and she said something like, "Oh wow. That sounds horrible. I might have to go there."

Note that YMMV and all that. I think you could do worse than a JITB Thanksgiving, but that's just me.


I'm hoping my favorite Indian restaurant will be open for the day.  Chicken Tikka Masala would be perfect.
 
2013-11-24 07:16:45 PM

limeyfellow: Benjamin Franklin would have to wonder why you are eating the US national bird. What next? Bald Eagle pie?


Is Bald Eagle pie what all the limeyfellows are calling a shaved bird these days?
 
2013-11-24 07:34:05 PM

lewismarktwo: grumpfuff: lewismarktwo: spidermilk: The real problem is when people who only cook twice a year try to cook a 20 lb bird.

If the only other thing you can cook is spaghetti then I see how you can hate turkey.

^This people.  Your mom can't cook worth shiat. Sorry.

Or - maybe, just hear me out here, maybe taste is subjective and some people just don't like the same things you like.

HOLY shiat WHAT A CONCEPT!

So do you like chicken?


Chicken and turkey have different flavors. They're mild but they're there. It's definitely possible to like one but not the other.
 
2013-11-24 07:36:03 PM

alice_600: Kit Fister: In other words, if you're bored of turkey and stuffing and whatever, try something different. Its almost as if the food itself has nothing to do with the original meaning of the holiday, and thus eating the same shiat every year might not be as important as trying new things while enjoying family and the bounty of your life.

You have turkey and Stuffing one day every year, How is it you are bored?


Didn't say I was. However, I stand by my point: The holiday is about giving thanks. It's not about what you eat, etc. etc. You want turkey? Great. Have turkey. Want duck? Do it. Ham? Go for it. giant farking omaha steaks? you bet. Elk? Delish. WHAT you eat has NOTHING to do with the holiday.

/I find turkey a little bland/tasteless unless REALLY prepared right, which in my kitchen includes marinating the bird overnight, then baking after stuffing with beer-soaked stuffing for cooking.
 
2013-11-24 07:38:23 PM
I will eat my traditional American thanksgiving food, thanks.  If that author hates American thanksgiving tradition so much, maybe they can try some nice traditional British food.  Like eating a spotted dick?
 
2013-11-24 07:39:15 PM
In lieu of pumpkin pie, try this soup, ripe with flavors of citrus, ginger and coconut.


fark YOOOOOU!

 
2013-11-24 07:39:48 PM
Not gonna happen...gonna be like this one at our house!
And a traditional prayer before the meal, giving thanks to the
many blessing of (still) being an AMERICAN!

jerryrushing.net
 
2013-11-24 07:40:28 PM

ThatGuyOverThere: I will eat my traditional American thanksgiving food, thanks.  If that author hates American thanksgiving tradition so much, maybe they can try some nice traditional British food.  Like eating a spotted dick?


How about Poutine. Can we have Poutine?
 
2013-11-24 07:44:19 PM

Inquisitive Inquisitor: The French are integral to the history of our nation.  Without them it's conceivable that we would not exist.  Whatever recent history they may have, they still deserve our respect and our thanks.  I'd be happy to recognize them on Thanksgiving and remember the sacrifices they made so that our nation could be born.


If I recall, had it not been for Mexican peasants defeating the French on cinco de mayo, the French would have been off to supply the south during the civil war...  So yeah, I guess they did something?  Also, I'm from Detroit, which probably has more French influence than anywhere else in the country.  I'm not seeing it anywhere but on the street signs.

/pulled a gun on a carjacker on Cadieux
//we call it "cah-jew", not "ca-dee-yoo" or "cad-e-ux"
 
2013-11-24 07:46:14 PM

OgreMagi: I'm hoping my favorite Indian restaurant will be open for the day. Chicken Tikka Masala would be perfect.


Turkey Tikka Masala. I See A Great Need.

Kit Fister: How about Poutine. Can we have Poutine?


He who denigrates poutine denigrates Canada. And the only people what can denigrate Canada are Canadians, eh? Poutine for everybody! It'll keep the beavers happy!

crow202.org
 
2013-11-24 07:46:34 PM

theflatline: Tonys Seafood.


Merci .
 
2013-11-24 07:47:37 PM

Kit Fister: ThatGuyOverThere: I will eat my traditional American thanksgiving food, thanks.  If that author hates American thanksgiving tradition so much, maybe they can try some nice traditional British food.  Like eating a spotted dick?

How about Poutine. Can we have Poutine?


You could probably do a Thanksgiving Poutine with mashed potatoes, gravy, and cheese curds. Not quite the same, but if you already have the first two, and can find the proper cheese...

/Mmmm, poutine.
 
2013-11-24 07:50:28 PM
I'll be brining & frying our turkey, just like I've done for several years since I found out how good it is.
The problem with frying the bird is no stuffing, but I never liked the traditional stuffing anyway.

Used to have a recipe for blue corn, green chile & piñon nut stuffing (can you tell I live in New Mexico?) but I lost it :(
 
2013-11-24 07:53:46 PM

danceswithcrows: OgreMagi: I'm hoping my favorite Indian restaurant will be open for the day. Chicken Tikka Masala would be perfect.

Turkey Tikka Masala. I See A Great Need.

Kit Fister: How about Poutine. Can we have Poutine?

He who denigrates poutine denigrates Canada. And the only people what can denigrate Canada are Canadians, eh? Poutine for everybody! It'll keep the beavers happy!

[crow202.org image 414x640]


...but I love poutine...especially when they throw in medium rare beef tips...
 
2013-11-24 08:00:23 PM
I can't speak for anyone else but, with the possible exception of a couple side dishes, I only eat a traditional turkey dinner once a year so I fail to see how you can really get bored with it.
 
2013-11-24 08:02:23 PM

12349876: TV's Vinnie: Turkey & stuffing only happens once a year. GTF away from me with your meddling, stupid coont!

Because whole turkeys and stuffing ingredients disappear from the grocery store from December-October.


Sucks to be you, I started buying Butterball turkeys at 59 cents a pound over two months ago, 59 cents.
 
2013-11-24 08:12:51 PM
Libtardism in all its glowing glory...both the "recipes" and NPR. Move to France the lot of you already.
 
2013-11-24 08:16:11 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)


This always puzzles me.  My mom always bought your basic store turkey; I do the same.  We stuff it, put it in the oven, ignore it for hours, and then pull it out.  It's always moist and delicious, and a very simple gravy (flour/salt/pepper/turkey drippings) compliments it well.

I hear about people doing crazy things with their turkeys, and as far as I can tell, this just ruins them.  Buy your basic turkey, stuff it, roast it, profit to your tastebuds.
 
2013-11-24 08:20:49 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)


What are you on about? It's possibly the easiest thing to cook. You put it in a pan, cover it with foil and bake it for 5-6 hours or so and you're done. perfectly moist, tender and delicious every time.
 
2013-11-24 08:32:31 PM
1 cup (250 ml) coconut juice, preferably organic
2 tablespoons freshly squeezed lime or lemon juice
1 tablespoon Vietnamese fish sauce, preferably Red Boat brand
7 ounces (200 g) fresh crabmeat


I always forget this part.
 
2013-11-24 08:37:44 PM

aerojockey: I regard sweet potatoes as acceptable break from regular potatoes; duck, goose, or even chicken to be an acceptable substitute for turkey.

Why not both?
/hooray!

Seriously.  Same for duck and goose, if the hunters in our family get any.  They're a side dish for those that like game meats.

Chicken though?  Blasphemy.
/Unless maybe you're having a very very small gathering and do not want leftover turkey for several days worth of meals.

It's always a smorgasbord here, everyone get's their favorites, no one makes the kids eat veggies, etc.  It's one of two meals a year we do that way, the other being christmas(not that we're religious or traditional, it's just that it's an excuse to have a huge meal and family gathering twice a year, celebrate to get through the monotony of winter).  The only time we have enough people to finish off the lion's share of the dishes we prepare.

For most people, if they get turkey(and the other staples) any other time during the year, it's lunchmeat or frozen dinners or cafeteria style food.

OgreMagi: megarian: TofuTheAlmighty: Turkey sucks. No other meat requires so much tinkering to make it vaguely edible. (Admittedly, I've never had a wild turkey or even heritage bird. But I suspect they aren't worth the effort either.)

You shut your whore mouth.

I'm going to have to agree with Tofu.  Turkey is rather tasteless in my opinion.  It's all the "fixings" that make a turkey feast worth while.  Personally, I prefer prime rib or venison for t-day.  And some really good wine, of course.


You shut your whore mouth too!

If your turkey is tasteless, you're either doing it wrong or you've desensitized your tongues with years of overspiced or otherwise extreme foods.
 
2013-11-24 08:40:36 PM

Lsherm: Nick Nostril: doglover: Cilantro

Dial is cheaper and already a liquid you can find in your kitchen.

Heathen!

It's genetic.  For some people cilantro smells and tastes like soap.


Cilantro tastes soapy to me when stems are a plenty.  It's a frustrating and tedious job.  Rremove all stemmy parts and a well made cream of cilantro soup is killer.  Also, cilantro tastes icky when cooked much at all.  Add finely chopped and stemless cilantro at the table or right before serving.
 
2013-11-24 08:44:53 PM

Kit Fister: ...but I love poutine...especially when they throw in medium rare beef tips...


Poutine with beef tips? Euh... sounds a bit like gilding the lily to me, mais chacun à son goût. Pas de problème! Poutine pour les gens de Canada!
 
2013-11-24 08:45:12 PM

7th Son of a 7th Son: Hermione_Granger: I sent my daughter off to college a heterosexual carnivore. They're sending me back a lesbian, possibly bisexual vegetarian.

Vegetarians are the most annoying people on the farking planet. I want my money back. Her new girlfriend is nice though. They're settling down in Chicago after graduation. fark both of them for not eating turkey though.

giggity.


Don't worry next woman she loves is gonna be a cattle farmer who enjoys football and beer.
 
2013-11-24 08:54:43 PM

Kit Fister: alice_600: Kit Fister: In other words, if you're bored of turkey and stuffing and whatever, try something different. Its almost as if the food itself has nothing to do with the original meaning of the holiday, and thus eating the same shiat every year might not be as important as trying new things while enjoying family and the bounty of your life.

You have turkey and Stuffing one day every year, How is it you are bored?

Didn't say I was. However, I stand by my point: The holiday is about giving thanks. It's not about what you eat, etc. etc. You want turkey? Great. Have turkey. Want duck? Do it. Ham? Go for it. giant farking omaha steaks? you bet. Elk? Delish. WHAT you eat has NOTHING to do with the holiday.

/I find turkey a little bland/tasteless unless REALLY prepared right, which in my kitchen includes marinating the bird overnight, then baking after stuffing with beer-soaked stuffing for cooking.


I know that aspect but the way they presented this it sounded like a sullen 14 year old who had his xbox and phone taken away because his grades sucked.
 
2013-11-24 08:57:34 PM

SevenizGud: Libtardism in all its glowing glory...both the "recipes" and NPR. Move to France the lot of you already.


Hey, I'm borderline libtarded, and I think this is BS. Eat turkey and mashed potatoes on Thanksgiving folks, or for you PC panty-twisters "fall feast".
 
2013-11-24 09:05:29 PM
I wait all year for turkey, ham, and stuffing. Screw You NPR!
 
2013-11-24 09:05:55 PM
Thanksgiving is the only holiday my family celebrates. For us it is about tradition and actually being thankful for what we have.

I think we'll keep it that way.
 
2013-11-24 09:08:25 PM
My grandma was an awful cook...every thanksgiving that she hosted was jello "salad" with carrots,celery and olives in lime hello,  green bean casserole and those nasty canned sweet potatoes.  She did ok on the turkey but cooked it in the plastic bag until it was falling apart.  Homemade riced potatoes (hard to mess those up) but with canned gravy.  My mom would bring salad, pies and a fresh veggie tray.

My dad hates turkey so me makes venison, pheasant or salmon.  Ash Roasted squash or sweet potatoes and what ever green vegetables my mom insists on. Pie...
 
2013-11-24 09:21:05 PM
Or she, and NPR, could go fark themselves sideways.
 
2013-11-24 09:44:19 PM
I'm cooking for about half a dozen friends on Friday. Spaetzle, German potato salad, meatless cabbage rolls (barley instead of ground beef), whilted lettuce, and blackberry pie.

Vegetarian, but no one will notice or comment there's no meat. Eat what you like, not "traditional"
 
2013-11-24 09:50:10 PM
Green bean casserole? Traditional. Turkey and stuffing? Traditional. Pumpkin pie? Traditional.. What the fark is wrong with tradition?
 
2013-11-24 10:02:13 PM

lewismarktwo: grumpfuff: lewismarktwo: spidermilk: The real problem is when people who only cook twice a year try to cook a 20 lb bird.

If the only other thing you can cook is spaghetti then I see how you can hate turkey.

^This people.  Your mom can't cook worth shiat. Sorry.

Or - maybe, just hear me out here, maybe taste is subjective and some people just don't like the same things you like.

HOLY shiat WHAT A CONCEPT!

So do you like chicken?


Depends how it's cooked. I suppose I could like turkey if it ever came in a form other than Thanksgiving turkey or deli slices.
 
2013-11-24 10:04:03 PM

SevenizGud: Libtardism in all its glowing glory...both the "recipes" and NPR. Move to France the lot of you already.


Even for you, this is retarded.

And showing you DNRTFA.
 
2013-11-24 10:06:54 PM
lh4.googleusercontent.com
 
2013-11-24 10:15:13 PM
Duck is superior to turkey.  That is all.

Alleyoop: [lh4.googleusercontent.com image 546x680]

You're aware that you're posting this in a thread where NPR is saying "Here are some new things to try.", right?
 
2013-11-24 10:33:45 PM

Frantic Freddie: I'll be brining & frying our turkey, just like I've done for several years since I found out how good it is.
The problem with frying the bird is no stuffing, but I never liked the traditional stuffing anyway.

Used to have a recipe for blue corn, green chile & piñon nut stuffing (can you tell I live in New Mexico?) but I lost it :(


That was our biggest complaint about the fried turkey. My mom came up with a pretty novel idea. She bought a turkey breast (skin on), put the dressing in a baking dish, and roasted the breast on top of the dressing.

It wasn't a perfect solution, but it was close enough.
 
2013-11-24 10:47:04 PM
I'm making roasted Cornish game hens this year with an assortment of traditional sides not making it to family this year for TDay.

Any suggestions on rubs or seasonings? Was contemplating citrus.
 
2013-11-24 10:48:51 PM
And if someone shows up at my door with the French onion soup complete with gryere cheese, they are most welcomed.
 
2013-11-24 11:13:14 PM

grumpfuff: lewismarktwo: grumpfuff: lewismarktwo: spidermilk: The real problem is when people who only cook twice a year try to cook a 20 lb bird.

If the only other thing you can cook is spaghetti then I see how you can hate turkey.

^This people.  Your mom can't cook worth shiat. Sorry.

Or - maybe, just hear me out here, maybe taste is subjective and some people just don't like the same things you like.

HOLY shiat WHAT A CONCEPT!

So do you like chicken?

Depends how it's cooked. I suppose I could like turkey if it ever came in a form other than Thanksgiving turkey or deli slices.


Try this. Take turkey breasts whole turkey breasts  Grill it with take turkey breast debone and tenderize it season with Cayanne pepper and Seasoned salt. Let sit over night. Wrapped in plastic wrap. Before you cook. Spray the Grill with Pam and pre-heat on medium heated grill. Brush with your favorite BBQ sauce till turkey is cooked. Slice and server over salad. Or parried with wild rice and vegetables.
You can use turkey in quesadellas, salads, heck turkey sausage is awesome!
But what I love about thanksgiving is the next day Hot Turkey sandwiches. The most indulgent thing ever. Put between two pieces of bread turkey put on a plate scoop on top of that some green bean casserole, dressing, potatoes then cover that bad boy in gravy. Then put some cranberry sauce on the side. Get yourself a beer or soda, take a fork and knife cut yourself out a portion and put some cranberry sauce on the fork and enjoy. Soak the rest of that bad boy up with a roll or whatever. Have a slab of pie and coffee then pass out watching Christmas specials.
 
2013-11-24 11:47:41 PM
Duck is a substitute for rancid rib-eye steak. That is all.
 
2013-11-24 11:53:01 PM

Inquisitive Inquisitor: The French are integral to the history of our nation.  Without them it's conceivable that we would not exist.  Whatever recent history they may have, they still deserve our respect and our thanks.  I'd be happy to recognize them on Thanksgiving and remember the sacrifices they made so that our nation could be born.


Uh, well, let's see. At the time of the first THANKSGIVING the French were hardcore paying their northern indians and collaborating with the Spanish to kill as many englishmen as they could between them, which would include your Pilgrims. So eating french food on Thanksgiving seems pretty moronic and disrespectful.

Of course, if we want an authentically symbolic meal, we could try to find an actual injun to convince to provide the turkey meal, then stab him in the back after we steal it.
 
2013-11-24 11:58:03 PM

danceswithcrows: OgreMagi: it looks like my t-day feast will be whatever fast food restaurant is open.

I take the bus to work most days. My bus stop is right next to a Jack-In-The-Box. This fast-food place has had signs up saying "Open Thanksgiving!" for the last 2 weeks. One of my co-workers is in roughly the same spot as you are (no family nearby, all friends out of town) so she was planning on having a turkey TV dinner. I told her that at least some JITBs were open Thanksgiving, and she said something like, "Oh wow. That sounds horrible. I might have to go there."

Note that YMMV and all that. I think you could do worse than a JITB Thanksgiving, but that's just me.


Waffle House never closes, greasy food and entertainment!
 
2013-11-25 12:26:52 AM

ilgette: danceswithcrows: OgreMagi: it looks like my t-day feast will be whatever fast food restaurant is open.

I take the bus to work most days. My bus stop is right next to a Jack-In-The-Box. This fast-food place has had signs up saying "Open Thanksgiving!" for the last 2 weeks. One of my co-workers is in roughly the same spot as you are (no family nearby, all friends out of town) so she was planning on having a turkey TV dinner. I told her that at least some JITBs were open Thanksgiving, and she said something like, "Oh wow. That sounds horrible. I might have to go there."

Note that YMMV and all that. I think you could do worse than a JITB Thanksgiving, but that's just me.

Waffle House never closes, greasy food and entertainment!


Cracker Barrel has thanksgiving dinner so does Bob Evan's
 
2013-11-25 12:35:37 AM

Kit Fister: In other words, if you're bored of turkey and stuffing and whatever, try something different. Its almost as if the food itself has nothing to do with the original meaning of the holiday, and thus eating the same shiat every year might not be as important as trying new things while enjoying family and the bounty of your life.


Nonsense!  I want my can of cranberries, soggy dressing, wet mashed potatoes, and a dry bird, and I want it, um, Thursday!

/will actually have ham on Thursday
 
2013-11-25 12:42:22 AM

Terrible Old Man: Inquisitive Inquisitor: The French are integral to the history of our nation.  Without them it's conceivable that we would not exist.  Whatever recent history they may have, they still deserve our respect and our thanks.  I'd be happy to recognize them on Thanksgiving and remember the sacrifices they made so that our nation could be born.

Uh, well, let's see. At the time of the first THANKSGIVING the French were hardcore paying their northern indians and collaborating with the Spanish to kill as many englishmen as they could between them, which would include your Pilgrims. So eating french food on Thanksgiving seems pretty moronic and disrespectful.

Of course, if we want an authentically symbolic meal, we could try to find an actual injun to convince to provide the turkey meal, then stab him in the back after we steal it.


Why would you do that?  Thank him for the food, and out of consideration for the cold weather, gift him with some nice warm blankets.
 
2013-11-25 12:43:15 AM
Typical of the elitists at NPR. I'm weary of people who "know what's best for me".
 
2013-11-25 12:53:38 AM
weak
 
2013-11-25 01:04:04 AM

alice_600: ilgette: danceswithcrows: OgreMagi: it looks like my t-day feast will be whatever fast food restaurant is open.

I take the bus to work most days. My bus stop is right next to a Jack-In-The-Box. This fast-food place has had signs up saying "Open Thanksgiving!" for the last 2 weeks. One of my co-workers is in roughly the same spot as you are (no family nearby, all friends out of town) so she was planning on having a turkey TV dinner. I told her that at least some JITBs were open Thanksgiving, and she said something like, "Oh wow. That sounds horrible. I might have to go there."

Note that YMMV and all that. I think you could do worse than a JITB Thanksgiving, but that's just me.

Waffle House never closes, greasy food and entertainment!

Cracker Barrel has thanksgiving dinner so does Bob Evan's


I'm not white enough to be allowed in a Cracker Barrel.
 
2013-11-25 01:22:00 AM
img.fark.net
 
2013-11-25 01:29:06 AM

Coastalgrl: I'm making roasted Cornish game hens this year with an assortment of traditional sides not making it to family this year for TDay.

Any suggestions on rubs or seasonings? Was contemplating citrus.


Have you ever used tamarind? It has a deep smokey citrus flavor.  It's added to most BBQ sauce and some rubs.
 
2013-11-25 02:41:30 AM

OgreMagi: alice_600: ilgette: danceswithcrows: OgreMagi: it looks like my t-day feast will be whatever fast food restaurant is open.

I take the bus to work most days. My bus stop is right next to a Jack-In-The-Box. This fast-food place has had signs up saying "Open Thanksgiving!" for the last 2 weeks. One of my co-workers is in roughly the same spot as you are (no family nearby, all friends out of town) so she was planning on having a turkey TV dinner. I told her that at least some JITBs were open Thanksgiving, and she said something like, "Oh wow. That sounds horrible. I might have to go there."

Note that YMMV and all that. I think you could do worse than a JITB Thanksgiving, but that's just me.

Waffle House never closes, greasy food and entertainment!

Cracker Barrel has thanksgiving dinner so does Bob Evan's

I'm not white enough to be allowed in a Cracker Barrel.


No one is white enough for Cracker Barrel.
 
2013-11-25 02:54:27 AM

alice_600: OgreMagi: alice_600: ilgette: danceswithcrows: OgreMagi: it looks like my t-day feast will be whatever fast food restaurant is open.

I take the bus to work most days. My bus stop is right next to a Jack-In-The-Box. This fast-food place has had signs up saying "Open Thanksgiving!" for the last 2 weeks. One of my co-workers is in roughly the same spot as you are (no family nearby, all friends out of town) so she was planning on having a turkey TV dinner. I told her that at least some JITBs were open Thanksgiving, and she said something like, "Oh wow. That sounds horrible. I might have to go there."

Note that YMMV and all that. I think you could do worse than a JITB Thanksgiving, but that's just me.

Waffle House never closes, greasy food and entertainment!

Cracker Barrel has thanksgiving dinner so does Bob Evan's

I'm not white enough to be allowed in a Cracker Barrel.

No one is white enough for Cracker Barrel.


Have you ever been in a Walmart?
 
2013-11-25 02:57:15 AM
We can't all eat Chaton pressé avec les graines de canard, pâté tumorale importante avec une tarte et le côté d'éclaboussure de vol stationnaire.
Just roast something ugly and cork off a box of Canadian sunshine.
 
2013-11-25 08:06:08 AM

Rapmaster2000: If you wanted to be traditional you'd be eating venison and oysters.  So make this oyster stuffing recipe from Paul Prudhomme.  It is outstanding.

http://articles.philly.com/1988-11-23/food/26244585_1_place-oysters- lo uisiana-oyster-oyster-water


Grew up in New Orleans and every year my mom would buy a bucket of oysters (basically a big plastic bucket like cheap ice cream comes in filled with shucked oysters and juice) and make oyster dressing.  She would also make oyster patties.  That stuff was so good it would make you cry.  The oyster patties are basically the same stuff in the dressing minus the bread crumbs so it was like a chowder poured into hollow pastries and baked.  There a lot of things I don't miss about New Orleans, but that is not one of them.
 
2013-11-25 08:24:44 AM
Meh. I don't really like "Thanksgiving" food. Except stuffing. Basic Stovetop boxed stuffing is some magical shiat. Other than that I don't really care. This Thanksgiving I might do takeout breakfast food from a local Greek place. It's what I did last Christmas. They're open 24/7/365. I used to go there for late night (2-4am) meals during college. Food is good but the owner is a cheap bastard.

/Apple pie is better served cold.
 
2013-11-25 08:29:07 AM

SmithHiller: Green bean casserole? Traditional. Turkey and stuffing? Traditional. Pumpkin pie? Traditional.. What the fark is wrong with tradition?


There's nothing wrong with tradition. But there is absolutely nothing "right" with it either.
 
2013-11-25 10:35:10 AM

chimp_ninja: You're aware that you're posting this in a thread where NPR is saying "Here are some new things to try.", right?


I was referring to NPR wanting to Europianize every American tradition possible.

I looked in vain for my picture of Jean Reno forcing the congressional cafeteria worker at gun-point to take down the "American Fries" sign.
 
2013-11-25 11:05:05 AM
Sounds like NPR needs to get France to provide their funding and stop taking ALL of our tax dollars!
 
2013-11-25 11:09:58 AM

Alleyoop: chimp_ninja: You're aware that you're posting this in a thread where NPR is saying "Here are some new things to try.", right?

I was referring to NPR wanting to Europianize every American tradition possible.

I looked in vain for my picture of Jean Reno forcing the congressional cafeteria worker at gun-point to take down the "American Fries" sign.


Goddamn that Carl Kassel and his nefarious Europianize plotting!

Seriously, WTF is wrong with you?  I'm always blown away that not only did people honestly not have anything better to do than to lobby to change the name of freaking French Fries - but that other people were cheering them on.  Probably ranks up there with the most childish behavior I've seen from ostensibly reasonable, successful adults ever.  Of course, since the Statue of Liberty was a gift from France we could have tried to give that back instead of temporarily renaming a food, right?  That might have gotten the point across a bit better that we get angry and temper tantrum-y if another country doesn't support us in our unjustified* war.

Have you ever actually listened to NPR?  I mean, just turned on the radio randomly?  Eh, although I guess if *Recipes* pisses you off then...

* according to the vast majority of countries we approached about supporting us in it
 
2013-11-25 12:23:20 PM

Thingster: I'm cooking for about half a dozen friends on Friday. Spaetzle, German potato salad, meatless cabbage rolls (barley instead of ground beef), whilted lettuce, and blackberry pie.
Vegetarian, but no one will notice or comment there's no meat. Eat what you like, not "traditional"

That probably happens a lot more than people realize when there is a variety of well-prepared foods around.  Go over people's diets and you'll find that a LOT of them could go vegetarian and hardly even notice.
I like when other people that have known me for a while argue over whether or not they think I'm a vegetarian.  I just wander off and let them be confused - it's funnier that way.

CivicMindedFive: There a lot of things I don't miss about New Orleans, but that is not one of them.

Had to read that twice.
 
2013-11-25 02:28:27 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: ...since the Statue of Liberty was a gift from France we could have tried to give that back instead of temporarily renaming a food, right?


We were talking about NPR and food, but if you want to talk about the Statue of Liberty, she is a symbol of our freedom from England's rule. The date of our independence is on the tablet in her hand. In other words, this gift from France was really designed to piss off the Brits. Don't know where you're trying to go here, but yeah, some of us don't care for NPR trying to Europeanize something like Thanksgiving. If you want to go off on another tangent, I don't buy American flags made in China either.
 
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