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2013-11-24 09:51:23 AM
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2013-11-24 10:25:20 AM
what? i gave em SEVEN DAYS.

got nothin'
 
2013-11-24 10:26:21 AM
Why the fark are they all living at a Travel Lodge?
 
2013-11-24 10:27:19 AM
Can't they just go to another weekly rate hotel and come back when the renovations are done?
 
2013-11-24 10:27:53 AM

abhorrent1: Why the fark are they all living at a Travel Lodge?


"A lot of the people here don't have the resources, means, knowledge to go ahead try to find resources, help ourselves because that's exactly who's here in the first place," Patillo said.


They are there because they don't have the resources to find resources.
 
2013-11-24 10:30:13 AM
Ok definitely still drunk. I could've swore subby put "Please vaccinate the premises" and was very very confused.
 
2013-11-24 10:30:50 AM

ajgeek: Can't they just go to another weekly rate hotel and come back when the renovations are done?


Perhaps they can go to one of the other 6 travel lodges on the same road.

https://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=travel+lodge+us+192+florida&f b =1&gl=us&hq=travel+lodge+us+192+florida&ei=HhuSUu-lGoSs2wXjj4HoDA&ved= 0COgBELYD">https://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=travel+lodge+us+19 2+florida&fb =1&gl=us&hq=travel+lodge+us+192+florida&ei=HhuSUu-lGoSs2wXjj4HoDA&ved= 0COgBELYD
 
2013-11-24 10:31:13 AM

Capo Del Bandito: Ok definitely still drunk. I could've swore subby put "Please vaccinate the premises" and was very very confused.


IT's a Travel Lodge. It could probably use a vaccination
 
2013-11-24 10:31:26 AM

nunyadang: abhorrent1: Why the fark are they all living at a Travel Lodge?

"A lot of the people here don't have the resources, means, knowledge to go ahead try to find resources, help ourselves because that's exactly who's here in the first place," Patillo said.


They are there because they don't have the resources to find resources.


So they're chronically stupid?
 
2013-11-24 10:31:48 AM
Maybe if you live in a Travelodge you should keep it in your pants?
 
2013-11-24 10:32:31 AM
i too would be homeless if it weren't for this home that i have.
 
2013-11-24 10:35:51 AM
I am trying to find some sympathy in myself but am coming up short.  As someone above said, wtf are they doing living in a hotel/motel? That is intended to be a place to stay for a short time, not a living arrangement.  You pretty much have to expect that the management could ask you to leave at some point.

If these folks are of limited means as someone else above said, then whey in the fark are they staying in a hotel/motel? That has to be one of the more expensive housing solutions.  Lets say you have an incredibly low rate of $40/night, that's $1200 month.  Surely there are much cheaper options.

If its just a few days I suggest they put their stuff in their vehicles, or rent a small U-Haul for a few days and go camping at the closest legal campsite.
 
2013-11-24 10:38:47 AM
If someone is living at a motel for years,maybe the best thing for them was to be evicted. Time to start acting responsible and getting a real place to live. I'm sure the local food banks will be sure to give all these downtrodden people a better Thanksgiving than those that have to work two jobs to have a proper house.
 
2013-11-24 10:40:42 AM

abhorrent1: Why the fark are they all living at a Travel Lodge?


Because they were poor.
 
2013-11-24 10:41:44 AM

Ima4nic8or: Lets say you have an incredibly low rate of $40/night, that's $1200 month. Surely there are much cheaper options.


Just looking at some of them around my area they range from $60-70 a night. You could rent a pretty damn nice house around here for less than that.
 
2013-11-24 10:42:39 AM
Man, that really mashes my taters.
 
2013-11-24 10:42:56 AM

Ima4nic8or: I am trying to find some sympathy in myself but am coming up short.  As someone above said, wtf are they doing living in a hotel/motel? That is intended to be a place to stay for a short time, not a living arrangement.  You pretty much have to expect that the management could ask you to leave at some point.

If these folks are of limited means as someone else above said, then whey in the fark are they staying in a hotel/motel? That has to be one of the more expensive housing solutions.  Lets say you have an incredibly low rate of $40/night, that's $1200 month.  Surely there are much cheaper options.

If its just a few days I suggest they put their stuff in their vehicles, or rent a small U-Haul for a few days and go camping at the closest legal campsite.


I assume most of them lack the thousands of bucks needed for a deposit on an apartment, first and last month's rent, and utility deposits.
 
2013-11-24 10:43:50 AM
I work for a repo company, and we have a hold in place for Thanksgiving day. They can live in their cars.
 
2013-11-24 10:43:59 AM
If you're living in a Travelodge, the Thanksgiving holiday is the least of your worries.
 
2013-11-24 10:44:28 AM

abhorrent1: Ima4nic8or: Lets say you have an incredibly low rate of $40/night, that's $1200 month. Surely there are much cheaper options.

Just looking at some of them around my area they range from $60-70 a night. You could rent a pretty damn nice house around here for less than that.


But you're going to have to come up with 5 grand in a lump sum to move. See how that works now?
 
2013-11-24 10:45:09 AM

Ima4nic8or: Lets say you have an incredibly low rate of $40/night, that's $1200 month.  Surely there are much cheaper options.


Weekly rates are lower than daily, monthly lower than weekly, and leases on actual apartments even further down the cost. The idea of weekly places seems to be to allow people to move from town to town, gig to gig, but a lot of people seem to get stuck in them. And I gotta say, if you're barely getting by in a town where you live in a weekly rate hotel, maybe you should pull up stakes and try a different town.
 
2013-11-24 10:45:30 AM
A lot of these places have special weekly rates that are cheaper than a house rental, such as $120/week. The catch is that if you use the towels you have to pay to have them cleaned/replaced.
 
2013-11-24 10:47:05 AM
Weekly rates at some of these fleabag hotels are well under $200, and so it's often an attractive low cost housing solution in some areas.  That includes maintenance, utilities, perhaps maid service...
 
2013-11-24 10:47:43 AM

FizixJunkee: Ima4nic8or: I am trying to find some sympathy in myself but am coming up short.  As someone above said, wtf are they doing living in a hotel/motel? That is intended to be a place to stay for a short time, not a living arrangement.  You pretty much have to expect that the management could ask you to leave at some point.

If these folks are of limited means as someone else above said, then whey in the fark are they staying in a hotel/motel? That has to be one of the more expensive housing solutions.  Lets say you have an incredibly low rate of $40/night, that's $1200 month.  Surely there are much cheaper options.

If its just a few days I suggest they put their stuff in their vehicles, or rent a small U-Haul for a few days and go camping at the closest legal campsite.

I assume most of them lack the thousands of bucks needed for a deposit on an apartment, first and last month's rent, and utility deposits.


Plus furniture, the ability to pass a credit check, etc etc.
 
2013-11-24 10:48:33 AM
I thought that was how the tradition of Thanksgiving started.  "Happy Thanksgiving indians, now leave this area before we kill all of you."
 
2013-11-24 10:48:37 AM
People end up living at places like that because they usually don't have the cash to come up with first and last month rent plus deposit, plus any deposit for things like utilities. The initial cash outlay is pretty big, especially for somebody who has recently lost their job or whatever.

I imagine once you're staying in a place like that, it gets even harder to leave because you aren't going to be able to save when you're spending all of that money on weekly hotel rent.
 
2013-11-24 10:48:40 AM
This is an outrage. Could you pass me the gravy?
 
2013-11-24 10:50:56 AM
Few people are thankful for the 25K miles a car tire gave them but they'll swear and moan when it goes flat.
 
2013-11-24 10:56:26 AM

wildcardjack: Ima4nic8or: Lets say you have an incredibly low rate of $40/night, that's $1200 month.  Surely there are much cheaper options.

Weekly rates are lower than daily, monthly lower than weekly, and leases on actual apartments even further down the cost. The idea of weekly places seems to be to allow people to move from town to town, gig to gig, but a lot of people seem to get stuck in them. .

These people don't have to pay a deposit on utilities either . Which is part of the reason they stay at these places ..

 
2013-11-24 10:56:51 AM

Ima4nic8or: If these folks are of limited means as someone else above said, then whey in the fark are they staying in a hotel/motel? That has to be one of the more expensive housing solutions.  Lets say you have an incredibly low rate of $40/night, that's $1200 month.  Surely there are much cheaper options.


Its a weekly rate, usually around $200-300 a week that includes a furnished room, utilities, cable, and usually a once a week cleaning service. There is no deposit and you prepay weekly. It actually comes out a lot cheaper than renting an apartment. Of course, these usually aren't that great of a place to live and I don't see how families are living out of them.
 
2013-11-24 10:57:43 AM
FizixJunkee:
I assume most of them lack the thousands of bucks needed for a deposit on an apartment, first and last month's rent, and utility deposits.

This is Central Florida, not Manhattan.

You can get a 1 bedroom apartment (larger than any cheap hotel room by far) for about half as much per month as those people were paying, and utility deposits aren't that high here. If you're poor enough, you don't even have to leave a deposit for utilities.
 
2013-11-24 11:00:56 AM

cirby: FizixJunkee:
I assume most of them lack the thousands of bucks needed for a deposit on an apartment, first and last month's rent, and utility deposits.

This is Central Florida, not Manhattan.

You can get a 1 bedroom apartment (larger than any cheap hotel room by far) for about half as much per month as those people were paying, and utility deposits aren't that high here. If you're poor enough, you don't even have to leave a deposit for utilities.


There's a large gray area between poor enough and well off enough to be able to handle it.

I'll give an example: I missed being eligible for Washington States Basic Health Plan by 500 bucks a year.
 
2013-11-24 11:02:05 AM

stuhayes2010: abhorrent1: Why the fark are they all living at a Travel Lodge?

Because they were poor.


Yeah, but the real question is why were they poor?

Didn't they know that they could just go out and get money and not be poor anymore? There's this strange, persistent myth that not everyone is born to the same parents, with the same socioeconomic background, and provided identical education, food, water, shelter, and and resources. Pisses me off that people keep ignoring the reality that poor people are poor simply because they're lazy and choose not to have money, high-paying jobs, or use their excellent educations properly.
 
2013-11-24 11:06:00 AM
MFAWG:
But you're going to have to come up with 5 grand in a lump sum to move. See how that works now?

Not in Kissimmee, Florida. For that kind of money, you're looking at really, REALLY nice places - massively better than a low-end Travelodge.

Missicat:
Plus furniture, the ability to pass a credit check, etc etc.

Lots of places to rent in Central Florida that don't require credit checks. Just stay away from the big complexes and management companies. Used furniture is cheap, too.

Shoop008:
It actually comes out a lot cheaper than renting an apartment.

Even at the lowball $200/week (which, with taxes and such, comes out closer to $250/week), it's still more expensive than apartment living at a cheap complex. From their website, the actual cost to stay at that hotel is about $1000/month after taxes - a cheap apartment somewhat bigger than those hotel rooms starts at about $500/month.
 
2013-11-24 11:10:19 AM
If you got more than 1 kid and 2 adults most places wont let you live in a 1br apt. If you got the kid then efficiencies are out as well. In a motel room you can have 2 adults and a passel of kids for the same low rate. Go redo your paradigm again. They have the motels with the 2 burner stove, small fridge and a sink..cheaper than apts. Just no privacy at all and you get cable thrown in for free.
 
2013-11-24 11:12:06 AM

cirby: FizixJunkee:
I assume most of them lack the thousands of bucks needed for a deposit on an apartment, first and last month's rent, and utility deposits.

This is Central Florida, not Manhattan.

You can get a 1 bedroom apartment (larger than any cheap hotel room by far) for about half as much per month as those people were paying, and utility deposits aren't that high here. If you're poor enough, you don't even have to leave a deposit for utilities.


If you've got shiatty credit (and if you live in a motel on weekly rates you do), you're going to have to pay though the nose as a security deposit just to get into an equally shiatty apartment.  And a cheap apartment plus utilities won't be that much cheaper than $200/week in a crappy motel.
 
2013-11-24 11:13:32 AM

cirby: MFAWG:
But you're going to have to come up with 5 grand in a lump sum to move. See how that works now?

Not in Kissimmee, Florida. For that kind of money, you're looking at really, REALLY nice places - massively better than a low-end Travelodge.



So deposits and first+last months are well within the reach of these folks living at Travelodge (i.e., are $0)?
 
2013-11-24 11:14:37 AM
MFAWG:
There's a large gray area between poor enough and well off enough to be able to handle it.

Except, of course, you're not talking about the same places. Kissimmee's official deposit for utilities is $340, but there are lots of ways around that. There are also several utilities assistance programs from various agencies and power companies.

Then, of course, there are lots of places in the area besides the main gate next to Disney World...
 
2013-11-24 11:15:48 AM
I'm glad so many humanitarians have shown up to this thread to provide such easy solutions to what was thought to be a complex problem.  Keep up the good work!
 
2013-11-24 11:18:03 AM

CowardlyLion: stuhayes2010: abhorrent1: Why the fark are they all living at a Travel Lodge?

Because they were poor.

Yeah, but the real question is why were they poor?

Didn't they know that they could just go out and get money and not be poor anymore? There's this strange, persistent myth that not everyone is born to the same parents, with the same socioeconomic background, and provided identical education, food, water, shelter, and and resources. Pisses me off that people keep ignoring the reality that poor people are poor simply because they're lazy and choose not to have money, high-paying jobs, or use their excellent educations properly.


That was a very bad troll. You're not very good at trolling.


/yes, I realize you were being sarcastic
//I hope...
 
2013-11-24 11:19:09 AM

sarahthustra: i too would be homeless if it weren't for this home that i have.


Well, isn't that special!

/had the same (if somewhat guilty) thought
 
2013-11-24 11:19:12 AM

CowardlyLion: stuhayes2010: abhorrent1: Why the fark are they all living at a Travel Lodge?

Because they were poor.

Yeah, but the real question is why were they poor?

Didn't they know that they could just go out and get money and not be poor anymore? There's this strange, persistent myth that not everyone is born to the same parents, with the same socioeconomic background, and provided identical education, food, water, shelter, and and resources. Pisses me off that people keep ignoring the reality that poor people are poor simply because they're lazy and choose not to have money, high-paying jobs, or use their excellent educations properly.


You are wrong.  Generalizing that ALL poor people are lazy and choose not to have money is both ridiculous and misinformed.  Walk a mile in someone's else's shoes, trust fund baby.
 
2013-11-24 11:23:28 AM

nunyadang: They are there because they don't have the resources to find resources.


For some reason that reminded me of this...


http://youtu.be/h1WZ6a6YYJg

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Loo: And who are they?
Dr. Klahn: Refuse, found in waterfront bars.
Loo: Shanghaied?
Dr. Klahn: Just lost drunken men who don't know where they are and no longer care.
Prisoner #1: Where are we?
Prisoner #2: I don't care!
Loo: And these?
Dr. Klahn: These are lost drunken men who don't know where they are, but do care! And these are men who know where they are and care, but don't drink.
Prisoner #3: I don't know who I am!
Prisoner #4: Yeah. and I don't drink.
Dr. Klahn: Guards!
[moves prisoners]
Dr. Klahn: Do you care?
Prisoner #5: No.
Dr. Klahn: Put this man in cell #1, and give him a drink.
Guard: What do you drink?
Prisoner #5: I don't care.
 
2013-11-24 11:23:49 AM

skankboy: I'm glad so many humanitarians have shown up to this thread to provide such easy solutions to what was thought to be a complex problem.  Keep up the good work!


Romneywhycantpoorpeoplejustbuymoremoney.jpeg
 
2013-11-24 11:25:29 AM
FizixJunkee:
So deposits and first+last months are well within the reach of these folks living at Travelodge (i.e., are $0)?

Unless they're staying in the Travelodge for free, that "$0" is pretty much just made-up.

You keep saying "deposits and first+last months", but that's not the story around the area they're in. There's a lot of empty apartments and houses and duplexes in Central Florida, and quite a few of them are owned by individuals who don't screw around with credit checks and such. If you look around enough, you can find places that just want the first month's rent - for much less than the cost of the Travelodge for a month. There are also several housing assistance programs that help people with that sort of thing, so it's not anything like you portray.

There are literally places in the area where you can move in for $400-$500, no deposit. Some of them are pretty decent, too.
 
2013-11-24 11:25:31 AM

Ima4nic8or: I am trying to find some sympathy in myself but am coming up short.  As someone above said, wtf are they doing living in a hotel/motel? That is intended to be a place to stay for a short time, not a living arrangement.  You pretty much have to expect that the management could ask you to leave at some point.

If these folks are of limited means as someone else above said, then whey in the fark are they staying in a hotel/motel? That has to be one of the more expensive housing solutions.  Lets say you have an incredibly low rate of $40/night, that's $1200 month.  Surely there are much cheaper options.

If its just a few days I suggest they put their stuff in their vehicles, or rent a small U-Haul for a few days and go camping at the closest legal campsite.


Many hotels/motels will offer weekly rates at a discount, say $120 a week. That's less than $500 a month. Even if you could find an apartment for less than $500 a month in Orlando (you can't), you'd still need the standard first, last, and security ($1500), and usually an application fee or administrative fee ($50-$150) plus if you want electricity you have to either have good credit or pay a deposit of $200 or more.

So for your "cheaper option" you actually need around 2 grand just to get into, and that's impossible for people living day to day.
 
2013-11-24 11:26:08 AM

cirby: MFAWG:
But you're going to have to come up with 5 grand in a lump sum to move. See how that works now?

Not in Kissimmee, Florida. For that kind of money, you're looking at really, REALLY nice places - massively better than a low-end Travelodge.

Missicat:
Plus furniture, the ability to pass a credit check, etc etc.

Lots of places to rent in Central Florida that don't require credit checks. Just stay away from the big complexes and management companies. Used furniture is cheap, too.

Shoop008:
It actually comes out a lot cheaper than renting an apartment.

Even at the lowball $200/week (which, with taxes and such, comes out closer to $250/week), it's still more expensive than apartment living at a cheap complex. From their website, the actual cost to stay at that hotel is about $1000/month after taxes - a cheap apartment somewhat bigger than those hotel rooms starts at about $500/month.


First, last, deposit- $1500
Credit check -$40
Non-refundable application fee (per adult) -$35
UHaul-$60
Total move in cost- $1635


That $500/mo place is a lot harder to get than it looks on the surface, and it only goes up from there.

Recommended reading:
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2013-11-24 11:28:16 AM

cirby: There are also several utilities assistance programs from various agencies and power companies.


And if their program is anything like Washington State's, you have to be living in a shelter before you get deposit assistance and utility assistance is usually a one-off thing.


/wish I wasn't speaking from experience
//almost back to 2008 levels of solvency, but it's been rough
 
2013-11-24 11:32:16 AM
What a terrible deal.

Average of $50 a night
50x7=350
350x4=1400

$1400 a month for little dinky room?

These people are idiots.  You can rent a 1bdr around that area for 700/800 mo if you do some shopping.

1400 is 2bdr, 3 maybe.
 
2013-11-24 11:35:23 AM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:
Even if you could find an apartment for less than $500 a month in Orlando (you can't), you'd still need the standard first, last, and security ($1500), and usually an application fee or administrative fee ($50-$150) plus if you want electricity you have to either have good credit or pay a deposit of $200 or more.

First: you can easily find apartments and duplexes for under $500/month in Orlando and the neighboring towns. Ignore the apartment advertising sites - hit Craigslist for the cheaper places. Many of them don't ask for the first/last/deposit, either.

That $2000+ estimate is only if you want to move into a nicer apartment complex run by a management company. The difference between that and the Travelodge they're currently in is pretty stark.

Once you get away from the big fancy places, there are a lot - a LOT - cheaper, decent places owned and run by individuals.
 
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