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(NBC News)   Boeing tells airlines to only fly the 747-8 and 787 on sunny days   (nbcnews.com) divider line 23
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2013-11-24 02:32:29 AM  
At 30,000 feet it's always sunny.
 
2013-11-24 02:47:19 AM  

Bucky Katt: At 30,000 feet it's always sunny.


FTFA:

Boeing on Friday issued a notice prohibiting the affected aircraft from flying at high attitude within 50 nautical miles of thunderstorms that may contain ice crystals.
 
2013-11-24 02:55:58 AM  

Bucky Katt: At 30,000 feet it's always sunny.


Depending on where exactly you are over the surface of the planet, you might have another 30,000 feet of thunderstorm above you at that altitude.

/it may also be dark. just sayin'
 
2013-11-24 07:53:16 AM  
Well, it's always sunny in Philadelphia.
 
2013-11-24 08:45:17 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Well, it's always sunny in Philadelphia.


THAT'S A MYTH!!!
 
2013-11-24 10:50:15 AM  
urging 15 carriers to avoid flying them near high-level thunderstorms.
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The warning on Friday led Japan Airlines to pull 787 Dreamliners from two international routes.


Apparently, there are two JAL international routes that are prone to flying near thunderstorms.  WTF?
 
2013-11-24 10:53:36 AM  

Warchild: NewportBarGuy: Well, it's always sunny in Philadelphia.

THAT'S A MYTH!!!


It's always sunny in Ponyville!
 
2013-11-24 01:13:43 PM  
Screamliner or Scarebus? With some of the mfg./outsourcing problems I've been reading about, i might as well drive or take the train....
 
2013-11-24 01:15:46 PM  
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2013-11-24 01:31:40 PM  
No comment from the "LOL SCAREBUS" crowd?
 
2013-11-24 02:16:38 PM  
I was surprised to see that with all the newfangled high-falutin' gee-gaws on those planes, it came down to the engines, which of course aren't even made by Boeing, but by GE ("We bring good things plummeting to earth").  Of course, those are still newfangled high-falutin' gee-gaws too, in that they're planning to fix this through software.  Eep.

/FRA-LAX twice on LH's 748's earlier this year... nice planes, and thankfully no plummeting.
 
2013-11-24 03:00:07 PM  

Robo Beat: No comment from the "LOL SCAREBUS" crowd?


The issue isn't a Boeing v. Airbus thing... it's a GE engine thing... as much as subby wants it to be a Boeing problem, it just isn't
 
2013-11-24 03:04:02 PM  
Don't get them wet, keep them out of bright light, and never fuel them after midnight.
 
2013-11-24 03:39:59 PM  

space1999: urging 15 carriers to avoid flying them near high-level thunderstorms.
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The warning on Friday led Japan Airlines to pull 787 Dreamliners from two international routes.

Apparently, there are two JAL international routes that are prone to flying near thunderstorms.  WTF?


Anything that crosses the equator, and thus the ITCZ is prone to flying near thunderstorms. I think one route I read they were changing was Japan-India (not sure about the actual city pair).
www.srh.noaa.gov
 
2013-11-24 03:46:22 PM  

space1999: urging 15 carriers to avoid flying them near high-level thunderstorms.
...
The warning on Friday led Japan Airlines to pull 787 Dreamliners from two international routes.

Apparently, there are two JAL international routes that are prone to flying near thunderstorms.  WTF?



WTF what? Makes sense that it would be more of a concern for their flights to Delhi and Singapore (and Sydney) than their flights that don't go to or through South/Southeast Asia, doesn't it?


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-11-24 04:17:24 PM  
So it's like the Stealth Bomber? You can't get it wet?

The little polka-dot bikini of aviation?
 
2013-11-24 05:46:02 PM  

buzzcut73: space1999: urging 15 carriers to avoid flying them near high-level thunderstorms.
...
The warning on Friday led Japan Airlines to pull 787 Dreamliners from two international routes.

Apparently, there are two JAL international routes that are prone to flying near thunderstorms.  WTF?

Anything that crosses the equator, and thus the ITCZ is prone to flying near thunderstorms. I think one route I read they were changing was Japan-India (not sure about the actual city pair).
[www.srh.noaa.gov image 250x166]


Yes and no...flights from Japan to India (or Singapore) don't cross the equator.
 
2013-11-24 06:25:37 PM  
Yeah, that was my bad. I should have said 'anywhere near the equator' generally anywhere between 18N and 18S you'll find the ITCZ--if it's on the north side and you're flying Japan-Singapore or India there's a decent chance you'll find it.

/Started drinking a bit early
//Don't judge me
///Snow day!!
 
2013-11-24 06:37:28 PM  
Looks like now they'll have to holds United to its old slogan of flying the friendly skies.
 
2013-11-24 06:49:50 PM  
FTFA:
Boeing on Friday issued a notice prohibiting the affected aircraft from flying at high attitude within 50 nautical miles of thunderstorms that may contain ice crystals.


So no flying through chemtrails I guess?
 
2013-11-24 10:16:09 PM  
Keep shopping for the lowest bidder in your attempt to bust Northwest unions, assholes.  Because if there's one thing I want built as cheaply as possible, it's a big aluminum tube hurtling through the stratosphere at a few hundred miles per hour with a few hundred people inside.
 
2013-11-24 10:47:12 PM  

Wireless Joe: Keep shopping for the lowest bidder in your attempt to bust Northwest unions, assholes.  Because if there's one thing I want built as cheaply as possible, it's a big aluminum tube hurtling through the stratosphere at a few hundred miles per hour with a few hundred people inside.


You do realize that this has nothing to do with the actual airplane, but rather the engines, which in this case are made by GE Aviation, a union (UAW if my googles are correct) plant in Ohio?

What Boeing is doing with assembly work is somewhat shady, that has nothing to do with this engine issue.
 
2013-11-25 06:55:50 PM  
I notice the Rolls-Royce Trent engine option on the 787 isn't mentioned - any chance of re-engining 747-8i's with those?
 
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