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(Village Voice)   Ten jazz albums to hear before you die. Subby mostly agrees but will pass on Biatches Brew   (blogs.villagevoice.com) divider line 109
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2013-11-24 11:51:48 AM  
i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-24 11:56:36 AM  

MFAWG: Who wants to listen to somebody play a series of mistakes for 45 mminutes?


A - B rhyme scheme is all I know,
I'm a stupid superficial ho

vogue
 
2013-11-24 11:58:33 AM  

zimbomba63: A good list of classics, but, expand your horizons and listen to the music put out on the ECM label. I promise it will be good for your head.


I agree, but you will find a lot of older school purists vomiting at that. Just saying. ECM is often viewed as a historical gift for carrying the jazz tradition from Charles Mingus until the arrival of the Young Lions. A temporary "European exile," if you will. Most of Keith Jarrett is on ECM. I posted Bremen/Lausanne. I have a personal hard-on for Jan Garbarek and Jack DeJohnette's work, as well as Jarrett.

In fact, the Jarrett Trio with DeJohnette and Gary Peacock would probably be the thing I would play for someone who wanted an introduction to the best of contemporary acoustic jazz.
 
2013-11-24 12:10:24 PM  

kroonermanblack: Random question, I'm bored and it's (ok, not) semi related. Anyone know where I can listen to some harmonica that isn't 'folk' but is more 'pop' and/or high spagetti western style? The new Kesha song made me remember I always wanted to try it.

/just not in to jazz
//Tried morphine, it was ok, bit heavy for me unless it's raining and I've got a chick


Try Wall Of Voodoo: Call Of The West.
It's not harmonica music per se, but if I remember correctly it has lots of harmonica in it

/Haven't listened to it in a long time
 
2013-11-24 12:21:30 PM  

Somacandra: thamike:  I'm not a jazz aficionado, so I'm basing my choices on awesomeness alone. This is Davis' response to "you can't just jack up the list with Miles Davis."

I own TONS of Miles Davis:  biatches Brew, Birth of the Cool, Dark Magus, Kind of Blue, On The Corner, Round About Midnight, In A Silent Way, etc.....

I love Miles. Yes, he's a titan, perhaps THE titan in a world of titans. But a bucket list of jazz albums can't just be Miles Davis. Its the perennial problem in all jazz compilations.


Yeah, i know.  I was being absurd on purpose.

snakkle.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com

FOR JOKE!
 
2013-11-24 12:22:03 PM  
How bout some Die Like a Dog trio? I saw them in an elementary school after smoking a bunch of hash. Mind was blown.
 
2013-11-24 12:24:44 PM  
ALso, Ornette Coleman's Dancing in your Head. Make no mistake, that song WILL dance in your head in an endless psychotic loop.

Need some McCoy Tyner too! Havana Del Sol on his Live at Sweet Basil album is awesome!
 
2013-11-24 12:25:16 PM  

Rann Xerox: Marquis de Sod: I have all those, but it's A Love Supreme for the win

Also missing from the list:

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It's too bad the sounds of people talking, glasses clinking and silverware being used cannot be removed from the recording.  Didn't those people know that one of the deities of Jazz was playing the piano?


Bill Evans was f*cking amazing.  He dedicated 'Peace Piece' to my mother at a show once.  Then he proposed to her.  I think that's how she pronounces "propositioned."
 
2013-11-24 12:30:45 PM  

organizmx: I listen to WBGO in Newark a lot


Hey thanks I just added that to my streaming radio station list.

Here's another:
http://wdcb.org/new-media/internet-streaming.php
 
2013-11-24 12:45:21 PM  
i759.photobucket.com

That is all.
 
2013-11-24 12:48:33 PM  
List needs more Sun Ra.
 
2013-11-24 01:02:09 PM  
I'd put this on there

upload.wikimedia.org

...if there were more spots. To do a proper list you'd kinda have to have 5 or 10 albums for each different era. Of course Kind of Blue is going to wind up on a list of only 10 essential albums from all of Jazz, and you'd necessarily want a lot of diversity in such a small list, so Blues and the Abstract Truth would probably wind up taking a back seat. And personally I'd substitute

upload.wikimedia.org

for tfa's #7. I can't imagine a better vocal performance than this, by anyone, in any genre, any era.
 
2013-11-24 01:04:21 PM  
cfile6.uf.tistory.com

/Fark the facts!!!
 
2013-11-24 01:18:14 PM  

Somacandra: zimbomba63: A good list of classics, but, expand your horizons and listen to the music put out on the ECM label. I promise it will be good for your head.

I agree, but you will find a lot of older school purists vomiting at that. Just saying. ECM is often viewed as a historical gift for carrying the jazz tradition from Charles Mingus until the arrival of the Young Lions. A temporary "European exile," if you will. Most of Keith Jarrett is on ECM. I posted Bremen/Lausanne. I have a personal hard-on for Jan Garbarek and Jack DeJohnette's work, as well as Jarrett.

In fact, the Jarrett Trio with DeJohnette and Gary Peacock would probably be the thing I would play for someone who wanted an introduction to the best of contemporary acoustic jazz.


Loved DeJohnette's work with John Abercrombie.  My mind was blown by Gateway, when Dave Holland joined them.  Ralph Towner's Solo Concert almost left me in tears, because I wasn't there to witness it.  Steve Tibbets Yr and Northern Song.  Gary Burton and Chick Corea on Crystal Silence.  Oregon, still mourn Colin Walcott's death.  And so much more.
 
2013-11-24 01:24:02 PM  
And this one too.  The definitive version of "Sing Sing Sing" is here.

i759.photobucket.com
 
2013-11-24 01:31:57 PM  

Rann Xerox: Marquis de Sod: I have all those, but it's A Love Supreme for the win

Also missing from the list:

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It's too bad the sounds of people talking, glasses clinking and silverware being used cannot be removed from the recording.  Didn't those people know that one of the deities of Jazz was playing the piano?


Clinking glasses and silverware... coupled with jazz it can capture a beautiful moment in time... here's my favorite example from a NYC nightclub in 1961:

i1331.photobucket.com
 
2013-11-24 01:34:16 PM  
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Miles smiles
 
2013-11-24 01:48:29 PM  
I couldn't possibly narrow it down to just ten.

so here's some Stanley and Shirley
 
2013-11-24 01:58:00 PM  
 
2013-11-24 02:00:24 PM  
Lotta good suggestions in this thread. I'd add Stan Getz & Charlie Byrd's Jazz Samba
 
2013-11-24 02:07:12 PM  
Not a bad list, maybe not the best, but only ten albums? Whatever.

Personally, "A Love Supreme" should have been on there, and I'd probably ask for some Wayne Shorter.
 
2013-11-24 02:12:49 PM  

Somacandra: Well I think we know Wynton Marsalis is a Farker now, right Submitter?

/Time for Miles to run the Voodoo down on yo' ass.


Its the hipsters version of hating on what is considered one if the finest albums of all time, not just jazz but any album.

Its like hipster doucheism squared.
 
2013-11-24 02:13:22 PM  

theorellior: Not a bad list, maybe not the best, but only ten albums? Whatever.

Personally, "A Love Supreme" should have been on there, and I'd probably ask for some Wayne Shorter.


Shorter's Blue Note recordings are so ridiculously good I don't think I could narrow it down to one.
 
2013-11-24 02:29:12 PM  
The list could have been top ten must-listens for each style of jazz and it still wouldn't have been able to cover everything.  I have no complaints with any albums that were on there, but was surprised to not see the Massey Hall concert make the cut.  I know it wasn't the best playing from those guys, but you can't beat a lineup of Diz, Bird, Powell, Roach and Mingus.
 
2013-11-24 02:31:07 PM  
I'd definitely throw this one in:

royayersproject.com


It's free jazz, and highly experimental, but it's also got a sense of fun and playfulness, and a tunefulness, hat free jazz often lacked.  Just really great stuff.  Eric Dolphy was a true genius, and he died in one of the most infuriating tragedies in musical history: he was a diabetic, and one night in Berlin, he slipped into a diabetic coma.  But when he got to the hospital, the doctor just assumed he was another junkie jazz guy and just let him sleep it off, rather than giving him the insulin that would have saved his life.
 
2013-11-24 02:37:08 PM  
Michael Franks - The Art of Tea
 
2013-11-24 02:38:19 PM  
But so many people out there, young or even a bit older, are curious about jazz, and they're not exactly sure where to start.

Okay, assume I'm new to jazz, start me off with a grounding in the traditions--New Orleans, swing, bebop...

10. Ornette Coleman
The Shape of Jazz to Come

often credited as being the anchor to avant-garde jazz albums


WTF? Methinks the Village Voice is just too cool for this "bucket list" thing. Before you can be avante-garde, you have to know what you're breaking away from. Joplin, Bix, Duke, Django, Lady, Horace Silver. "Progressive" implies a progression, which requires a starting point.

The rest of the list sticks mainly to a single genre, or group of genres--avant-garde, small-combo horn-heavy jazz from 1960 through 1980. Not bad, but not the be-all and end-all either.
 
2013-11-24 02:40:55 PM  
List should have Coltrane's Om. And Coleman's This Is Our Music.
 
2013-11-24 03:04:38 PM  
The whole series of old Creed Taylor (CTI) albums in the late 60's and early 70's were pretty good. Even the covers were awesome with Pete Turner photography on most.
 
2013-11-24 03:19:26 PM  
Pandora has its problems, and they're paying very very small royalties on their music, but one of the bonuses for listening to it is I've been able to hear some obscurish jazz people who never get a lot of press.
 
2013-11-24 03:25:04 PM  

udhq: List needs more Sun Ra.


Indeed. It's a pretty narrow selection, genre-wise. But trying to pick only ten is borderline absurd anyway.
 
2013-11-24 04:00:38 PM  
Needs more Wayne Shorter, Jimmy Smith, and Wes Montgomery
 
2013-11-24 04:08:47 PM  
I've always thought Miles' album Pangaea is criminally neglected. There are rhythms on that album which make me sure Miles was possessed by a demon.

A jazz album I believe to be one of the all time greats came out in 2009, which is why it ain't making any lists. It's Allen Toussaint's The Bright Mississippi. It's one of those albums, man I'm telling ya, every note is perfect.

csb/
Stanton Moore once told me everyone's first jazz album should be Oscar Peterson Trio's Night Train.
 
2013-11-24 04:10:28 PM  
Wes Montgomery and Milt Jackson = heaven

http://youtu.be/G0LybuNsbjA
 
2013-11-24 04:22:40 PM  

REO-Weedwagon: I've always thought Miles' album Pangaea is criminally neglected. There are rhythms on that album which make me sure Miles was possessed by a demon.



Agharta, Pandaea (both recorded on the same night, btw) and Dark Magus are all great.  A Tribute to Jack Johnson, however, is better than any of them, including Biatches Brew.  For a casual fan or an interested rock fan, Right Off will impress them a lot more than anything from Brew.
 
2013-11-24 04:31:53 PM  

pedobearapproved: Wes Montgomery and Milt Jackson = heaven

http://youtu.be/G0LybuNsbjA


I like that.

Also it led to this gem:
Wes Montgomery - Live in '65 - Full Concert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLWlqBH9nrU
 
2013-11-24 04:38:25 PM  
One of my faves...
 
2013-11-24 04:39:15 PM  
try that again... one of my faves:

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-11-24 05:03:01 PM  

Goonie_Goo_Goo: try that again... one of my faves:


Damn!

"The 50s" is generally considered the epitome of white bread American culture, but in reality there was a genuine blooming of originality.

I guess creative souls will out in any age.
 
2013-11-24 05:37:45 PM  

Somacandra: Looks over list....yes, I own them all, and yes, from a bucket list perspective, I would agree.

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But you'd have to make room for Keith Jarrett too. Probably the Bremen/Lausanne records.


I agree. I'd have dropped biatches Brew for something from Jarrett. Only one on that list I don't have is the Ornett Coleman one and I could have sworn I had it. It must have missed the great MP3 migration of 2003.
 
2013-11-24 05:51:59 PM  
as someone who only recently heard biatches Brew, I must say that subby is a philistine.
 
2013-11-24 06:24:39 PM  

mrEdude: as someone who only recently heard biatches Brew, I must say that subby is a philistine.


Seconded. I could listen to that stuff forever, which is good because that's about how long each track lasts.
 
2013-11-24 07:27:20 PM  
No  Shrevie schools Bethpicture?

"I mean you're not going to put Charlie Parker in with the rock and roll are you?"
 
2013-11-24 07:28:22 PM  
Meh, biatches Brew is not my type of thing. Same with Head Hunters.  I like Hancock as session guy better.

This list has no Jazz Messengers,  My fav:
eil.com

My most under rated album:
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-11-24 07:54:39 PM  

MFAWG: Who wants to listen to somebody play a series of mistakes for 45 mminutes?


+ a trillion
 
2013-11-24 08:14:06 PM  

thamike: You could have easily tossed out The Shape of Jazz to Come for this:




...you jive-ass turkeys.


+1

drop biatches brew for this
 
2013-11-24 08:37:15 PM  
userserve-ak.last.fm

Old school + New school coming together.
"In a Sentimental Mood" = Magic.
 
2013-11-24 08:40:59 PM  

DrBenway: udhq: List needs more Sun Ra.

Indeed. It's a pretty narrow selection, genre-wise. But trying to pick only ten is borderline absurd anyway.


This; too much excellent Jazz to keep the list at just ten.
 
2013-11-24 09:34:03 PM  
List fails with out Dizzy and Bird.
userserve-ak.last.fm
 
2013-11-24 11:24:34 PM  

Charlie Freak: Evans


You're goddamn right.  Portrait in Jazz and Waltz for Debby are a collective master class in small-group dynamics.

LaFaro's untimely death is one of the great musical tragedies of the 20th century.
 
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