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(Denver Channel)   Today's new dental health fad is called "oil pulling", involves swishing coconut oil in your mouth to pull bacteria from your body: "My teeth are definitely whiter, it makes your mouth feel just really clean" (w/attractivece oil pulling pic)   (thedenverchannel.com) divider line 166
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2013-11-23 09:13:48 PM
Mouthwash. The answer you are looking for is mouthwash.
 
2013-11-23 09:27:07 PM
dammit ahab!
 
2013-11-23 09:34:11 PM
this "new dental health" thing has been practiced in india for centuries... but don't let facts get in the way of your hippie-bashing.  dickhole.
 
2013-11-23 09:35:00 PM
I forgot they added a second c to the word attractive.
 
2013-11-23 09:35:17 PM
I got something milky and white you can swish in your mouth
 
2013-11-23 09:36:43 PM
Capt. Picard: "WTF?"
 
2013-11-23 09:36:58 PM

dforkus: I got something milky and white you can swish in your mouth


Does it come from nuts?
 
2013-11-23 09:36:59 PM

TheOmni: Mouthwash. The answer you are looking for is mouthwash.


The secret ingredient is... semen
 
2013-11-23 09:37:43 PM

logophile: this "new dental health" thing has been practiced in india for centuries... but don't let facts get in the way of your hippie-bashing.  dickhole.


You, of course, have some documentation that this has been done for centuries.  Yes?
 
2013-11-23 09:38:17 PM
sharing.thedenverchannel.com

I'd spoon her if you know what I mean.

I'd put my nut oil in her mouth if you know what I mean.

I'd let her lick my spoon if you know what I mean.

And I think you do.

penis
 
2013-11-23 09:38:27 PM
Listerine, once you get hooked on the stuff you can never get let it go.
 
2013-11-23 09:38:58 PM

logophile: this "new dental health" thing has been practiced in india for centuries... but don't let facts get in the way of your hippie-bashing.  dickhole.


Yeah, when has a hippie ever adopted a practice from India?
 
2013-11-23 09:39:48 PM
trialx.org
 
2013-11-23 09:39:55 PM

buster_v: logophile: this "new dental health" thing has been practiced in india for centuries... but don't let facts get in the way of your hippie-bashing.  dickhole.

You, of course, have some documentation that this has been done for centuries.  Yes?


here's a peer reviewed journal article
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3131773/
 
2013-11-23 09:40:39 PM
I tried this and accidentally swallowed the oil. What an ordeal! Turns out I gave up the mineral rights to my body when clicked "Agree" during a Real Player install back in the 90's. After Halliburton pumped my stomach, they tried fracking to get the oil out of my skin. Not sure what they did but now my skin really itches.
 
2013-11-23 09:41:03 PM
I do that too, except with whiskey. Then I swallow it.

I don't know if it does anything for my dental health, but it's whiskey.
 
2013-11-23 09:42:04 PM
Dentists: "Swish this goop in your mouth!"
Americans: "Spit or swallow?"
 
2013-11-23 09:42:11 PM

HailRobonia: logophile: this "new dental health" thing has been practiced in india for centuries... but don't let facts get in the way of your hippie-bashing.  dickhole.

Yeah, when has a hippie ever adopted a practice from India?


hey.  hey.  you're blocking my chakras with all that negativity, princess.  how am i supposed to resonant at the right frequency with that kind of snark?
 
2013-11-23 09:42:19 PM
It's an interesting effect, but most studies point to it being the placebo effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_pulling As quoted from wikipedia "While scientific evidence is lacking to support any systemic benefits of oil pulling, some studies have suggested that it may reduce oral plaque, halitosis, and gingivitis. These studies all show that either chlorhexidine or oils can reduce plaque if included in a regular or routine oral healthcare program among those with high plaque scores and unfortunately don't show that oils themselves improve scores, but rather that proper oral healthcare does."
 
2013-11-23 09:44:44 PM

Paleorific: Listerine, once you get hooked on the stuff you can never get let it go.


You ever smelled a mouthwash drunk? They are totally wasted and typically have given up on life... but so minty!
 
2013-11-23 09:45:22 PM
My leave in beard conditioner has coconut oil in it. I smell like a tropical motherfarking paradise for the first twenty minutes it's in.
It also makescme kind of hungry for macaroons.
 
2013-11-23 09:46:31 PM
The practice, known as oil pulling, involves specific types of oil in a swishing routine 20 minutes a day

20 minutes? Who has time for that?


Oil pulling has been around for quite some time, but it's gaining popularity again through word of mouth.

Literally?


logophile: HailRobonia: logophile: this "new dental health" thing has been practiced in india for centuries... but don't let facts get in the way of your hippie-bashing.  dickhole.

Yeah, when has a hippie ever adopted a practice from India?

hey.  hey.  you're blocking my chakras with all that negativity, princess.  how am i supposed to resonant at the right frequency with that kind of snark?


cannonforhire.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-11-23 09:46:38 PM

Sock Ruh Tease: [sharing.thedenverchannel.com image 640x480]

I'd spoon her if you know what I mean.

I'd put my nut oil in her mouth if you know what I mean.

I'd let her lick my spoon if you know what I mean.

And I think you do.

penis


Oil something something hitting the anus
 
2013-11-23 09:46:52 PM

logophile: this "new dental health" thing has been practiced in india for centuries... but don't let facts get in the way of your hippie-bashing.  dickhole.


Oh, you mean the same country that throws their dead bodies and raw sewage into the Ganges and then bathes in and drinks from the very same river?  Please, tell me more of their healthy habit you stinking hippie.
 
2013-11-23 09:48:01 PM

Harry Freakstorm: I tried this and accidentally swallowed the oil. What an ordeal! Turns out I gave up the mineral rights to my body when clicked "Agree" during a Real Player install back in the 90's. After Halliburton pumped my stomach, they tried fracking to get the oil out of my skin. Not sure what they did but now my skin really itches.


It should go through most of the body fine, but you may have trouble when the oil hits the anus.
 
2013-11-23 09:48:48 PM
How soluble are bacteria in oil?  Is there a measurable partitioning coefficient?  Should I not be treating micro-organisms like molecules?

Actually...what happens when you expose a vesicle to a hydrocarbon?
 
2013-11-23 09:49:08 PM
FTA: ...known as oil pulling, involves specific types of oil in a swishing routine 20 minutes a day before spitting.

No. How does "no" sound?

/Brushing, and flossing already occupy enough of my time.
 
2013-11-23 09:50:06 PM

maddog2030: logophile: this "new dental health" thing has been practiced in india for centuries... but don't let facts get in the way of your hippie-bashing.  dickhole.

Oh, you mean the same country that throws their dead bodies and raw sewage into the Ganges and then bathes in and drinks from the very same river?  Please, tell me more of their healthy habit you stinking hippie.


wow. this is an interesting response on a couple levels, but let's focus on where i qualified my statement with the term "healtful" to apply to practice or peoples.

but then if we have time left, let's look for a second or two at your raging hardon of xenophobia
 
2013-11-23 09:51:22 PM

Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute:


You drink them both up. Just beware of a possible belly ache. I don't know about your situation, but my sister's doctor got annoyed when she woke him up with a phone calls about it.
 
2013-11-23 09:51:37 PM

UsikFark: Paleorific: Listerine, once you get hooked on the stuff you can never get let it go.

You ever smelled a mouthwash drunk? They are totally wasted and typically have given up on life... but so minty!


No but I have met a group of Clorox drunks....

//bleachable moment
 
2013-11-23 09:52:09 PM

zerkalo: Sock Ruh Tease: [sharing.thedenverchannel.com image 640x480]

I'd spoon her if you know what I mean.

I'd put my nut oil in her mouth if you know what I mean.

I'd let her lick my spoon if you know what I mean.

And I think you do.

penis

Oil something something hitting the anus


http://www.fark.com/comments/1672516/

/obligatory
 
2013-11-23 09:52:26 PM

logophile: buster_v: logophile: this "new dental health" thing has been practiced in india for centuries... but don't let facts get in the way of your hippie-bashing.  dickhole.

You, of course, have some documentation that this has been done for centuries.  Yes?

here's a peer reviewed journal article
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3131773/


Sadly the abstract doesn't compare it directly to mouthwash but just suggest it's somewhat effective. I assume you have something to back up the doctors claim that

" Some have also reported acne clearing, fewer asthma and sinus problems and improvements in heart and stomach conditions. "
 
2013-11-23 09:54:58 PM

spunkymunky: My leave in beard conditioner has coconut oil in it. I smell like a tropical motherfarking paradise for the first twenty minutes it's in.
It also makescme kind of hungry for macaroons.


Leave-in beard conditioner? Is that a euphemism or a real thing?
 
2013-11-23 09:55:36 PM

greentea1985: It's an interesting effect, but most studies point to it being the placebo effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_pulling As quoted from wikipedia "While scientific evidence is lacking to support any systemic benefits of oil pulling, some studies have suggested that it may reduce oral plaque, halitosis, and gingivitis. These studies all show that either chlorhexidine or oils can reduce plaque if included in a regular or routine oral healthcare program among those with high plaque scores and unfortunately don't show that oils themselves improve scores, but rather that proper oral healthcare does."


All the swishing (20 minutes, seriously?) probably separates plaque, which is suspended in the oil and gets spit out. Any remaining gunk is loosened and hydrated, making it easier to remove through brushing. That theory seems plausible. To test it, one could replace oil with anything non-polar and of neutral pH and no sugars, starches, or particles. Trouble is, oil is possibly the safest non-polar household product. Water is polar. If polarity does not matter, water would have a similar effect.
 
2013-11-23 09:56:09 PM

maramos: logophile: buster_v: logophile: this "new dental health" thing has been practiced in india for centuries... but don't let facts get in the way of your hippie-bashing.  dickhole.

You, of course, have some documentation that this has been done for centuries.  Yes?

here's a peer reviewed journal article
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3131773/

Sadly the abstract doesn't compare it directly to mouthwash but just suggest it's somewhat effective. I assume you have something to back up the doctors claim that

" Some have also reported acne clearing, fewer asthma and sinus problems and improvements in heart and stomach conditions. "


once again, the onus is *not* on me.  someone asked for info about historical use.  i provided it.  get me off the whipping post fellas.
 
2013-11-23 09:56:09 PM

logophile: buster_v: logophile: this "new dental health" thing has been practiced in india for centuries... but don't let facts get in the way of your hippie-bashing.  dickhole.

You, of course, have some documentation that this has been done for centuries.  Yes?

here's a peer reviewed journal article
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3131773/


Well, if that's not the definition of being told, I don't know what is.

/It's an interesting idea, but I would have to use the coconut oil that I use for popcorn.
//I'll stick to mouthwash with hydrogen peroxide in it. I'm betting it kills everything it touches.
 
2013-11-23 09:58:28 PM

maramos: logophile: buster_v: logophile: this "new dental health" thing has been practiced in india for centuries... but don't let facts get in the way of your hippie-bashing.  dickhole.

You, of course, have some documentation that this has been done for centuries.  Yes?

here's a peer reviewed journal article
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3131773/

Sadly the abstract doesn't compare it directly to mouthwash but just suggest it's somewhat effective. I assume you have something to back up the doctors claim that

" Some have also reported acne clearing, fewer asthma and sinus problems and improvements in heart and stomach conditions. "


once again, the onus is *not* on me.  someone asked for info about historical use.  i provided it.
 
2013-11-23 09:58:34 PM

logophile: buster_v: logophile: this "new dental health" thing has been practiced in india for centuries... but don't let facts get in the way of your hippie-bashing.  dickhole.

You, of course, have some documentation that this has been done for centuries.  Yes?

here's a peer reviewed journal article
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3131773/


Because if there's anyone I trust to be objective about whether "alternative remedies" work, it's the Journal of Ayurveda and Integrative Medicine.  Who say oil pulling is an effective treatment for diabetes as well.

And before you come back and tell me that you looked it up at the National Institutes of Health, and so it must be a respected journal, you should know that they also subscribe to the Journal of Irreproducible Results, the Journal of Phrenology, and the Journal of Iridology.
 
2013-11-23 10:00:17 PM

logophile: this "new dental health" thing has been practiced in india for centuries... but don't let facts get in the way of your hippie-bashing.  dickhole.


http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Appeal_to_ancient_wisdom
 

The Appeal to Ancient Wisdom is an informal logical fallacy. It is the bastard child of the appeal to authority and the appeal to tradition. In its most basic form, it can be written like this;
    Culture X said Thing Y.
    Culture X lived a long time ago (bonus points if post-colonial guilt is involved)
    Therefore Thing Y is true.
The Appeal to Ancient Wisdom is most commonly used by woomongers of the new age and/or alternative medicine varieties. However, some creationist arguments can also be considered AtAW, with the bible as the ancient wisdom in question.
 
2013-11-23 10:02:12 PM
"She believes the claims that oil pulling whitens teeth and pulls toxins out of the mouth. "

Why do they never mention any specific toxins, or where they came from in the first place?
 
2013-11-23 10:02:37 PM

logophile: this "new dental health" thing has been practiced in india for centuries... but don't let facts get in the way of your hippie-bashing.  dickhole.


When I think of good hygiene, I think of ancient India!
 
2013-11-23 10:03:35 PM
The coconut oil contains potassium benzoate.
 
2013-11-23 10:03:44 PM
offs.

anyway.  i've tried it a couple times.  coconut oil.  it was weirdly satisfying to roll around a fat for 20 minutes (in the shower, nothing to it) but yeah, it wasnt like my mouth was significantly cleaner than if i had used the toothpaste.

but if people are allergic to some of the toothpaste ingredients or are trying to live all granola crunchy, its an option.
 
2013-11-23 10:04:20 PM

logophile: here's a peer reviewed journal article
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3131773/


That is not a peer reviewed article. Period. It also contains no control tests, or even testing of any sort. It is merely a list of unverified anecdotes from India.

I wish i could add the verbiage "anecdotes from wackos", but I have not verified that, so I do not stand behind this sentence. I stand behind my first three sentences.
 
2013-11-23 10:04:21 PM

maramos: logophile: buster_v: logophile: this "new dental health" thing has been practiced in india for centuries... but don't let facts get in the way of your hippie-bashing.  dickhole.

You, of course, have some documentation that this has been done for centuries.  Yes?

here's a peer reviewed journal article
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3131773/

Sadly the abstract doesn't compare it directly to mouthwash but just suggest it's somewhat effective. I assume you have something to back up the doctors claim that

" Some have also reported acne clearing, fewer asthma and sinus problems and improvements in heart and stomach conditions. "


why does he need to back up the doctors' claim? that's not what he was saying at ALL

now i just think you're arguing for argument's sake
 
2013-11-23 10:04:59 PM

albuquerquehalsey: logophile: this "new dental health" thing has been practiced in india for centuries... but don't let facts get in the way of your hippie-bashing.  dickhole.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Appeal_to_ancient_wisdom

The Appeal to Ancient Wisdom is an informal logical fallacy. It is the bastard child of the appeal to authority and the appeal to tradition. In its most basic form, it can be written like this;
    Culture X said Thing Y.
    Culture X lived a long time ago (bonus points if post-colonial guilt is involved)
    Therefore Thing Y is true.
The Appeal to Ancient Wisdom is most commonly used by woomongers of the new age and/or alternative medicine varieties. However, some creationist arguments can also be considered AtAW, with the bible as the ancient wisdom in question.


But the Definition of Words is not a logical fallacy. It goes like this.

Word A means B.
Someone said Word A means C.
B is not C.
QED Word A is not the correct word to choose.

New =! Centuries Old
 
2013-11-23 10:05:59 PM
But does it actually taste like coconut? I ask because I can't stand the stuff.
 
2013-11-23 10:06:14 PM

fredbox: I do that too, except with whiskey. Then I swallow it.

I don't know if it does anything for my dental health, but it's whiskey.


I think we have the same dentist.
 
2013-11-23 10:06:23 PM
sharing.thedenverchannel.com

I'll oil it and she can pull it.
 
2013-11-23 10:06:36 PM

Paleorific: UsikFark: Paleorific: Listerine, once you get hooked on the stuff you can never get let it go.

You ever smelled a mouthwash drunk? They are totally wasted and typically have given up on life... but so minty!

No but I have met a group of Clorox drunks....

//bleachable moment


That's because Clorox has antioxidant properties and allows your body's cells to repair damage from a bleach high. See, bleach is made of a basic molecular compound written NaClO, which is similar similar to nitrous oxide, which is N2O.  The aCl group in bleach produces a longer-lasting, more pleasant high than the 2 group in N2O.
/not serious
 
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