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(ESPN)   Well color me shocked. Alabama fired the assistant coach who gave a loan to a football star   (espn.go.com) divider line 31
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2013-11-23 04:10:03 PM
He wasn't fired for loaning the money, he was fired for getting caught.
 
2013-11-23 04:14:32 PM
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix? Some people shouldn't be allowed to name children.
 
2013-11-23 04:20:12 PM
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2013-11-23 04:22:51 PM

WTF Indeed: Ha Ha Clinton-Dix? Some people shouldn't be allowed to name children.


Ha Ha is his nickname.  Real name is Ha'Sean, though not sure that's any better.
 
2013-11-23 04:22:56 PM
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2013-11-23 04:30:03 PM
It will be nice when the NCAA just relents to let the colleges with major athletic programs to just pay their players, or any college for that matter.
 
2013-11-23 04:30:29 PM
Well color me shocked.

www.makeyourmarkec.com

/sees what you did there, boy.
 
2013-11-23 04:30:38 PM
Damn, too bad they didn't get rid of Nick Satan...
 
2013-11-23 05:22:40 PM
Our long national nightmare is finally over!
 
2013-11-23 05:39:59 PM
This is Saban's Benghazi
 
2013-11-23 06:31:24 PM
Yay - green #101

/subby
//wasn't proud of green #100
///slashies
 
2013-11-23 06:40:11 PM
Loan, Forrest! Loan!
 
2013-11-23 07:27:56 PM
Non-story, overzealous staffer.
 
2013-11-23 07:33:22 PM
I'm surprised it took this long.
 
2013-11-23 07:45:49 PM
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...and Nick Saban continues coaching his semi-pro team.
 
2013-11-23 08:31:35 PM
It's pronounced "guh-NOR-ee-uh," like a fancier version of Gloria.
 
2013-11-23 09:50:10 PM

Krymson Tyde: I'm surprised it took this long.


Why?
 
2013-11-23 10:57:33 PM

skinink: It will be nice when the NCAA just relents to let the colleges with major athletic programs to just pay their players, or any college for that matter.


The NCAA isn't a government  body. It's a voluntary organization made up of the schools it regulates. If the schools actually wanted to share athletic income with their players (above aboard that is) it would happen. It's weird how many people think the NCAA somehow magically appeared one day and enslaved the colleges and universities of the US (plus Simon Fraser). Any school that doesn't like the NCAA can drop out at any time. And if the schools collectively want to pay players, the NCAA can't stop them because the schools are the NCAA.
 
2013-11-23 10:59:35 PM

puffy999: Krymson Tyde: I'm surprised it took this long.

Why?


The last thing Saban wants is the distraction of reporters, etc. asking the players questions about non game related stuff. That sort of thing can take on a life of itself and needs to be, to borrow Barney Fife's philosophy, nipped in the bud.
I thought he would have been fired as soon as it was known.
 
2013-11-24 12:22:40 AM

Farnn: WTF Indeed: Ha Ha Clinton-Dix? Some people shouldn't be allowed to name children.

Ha Ha is his nickname.  Real name is Ha'Sean, though not sure that's any better.


If only his last name was Chop.
 
2013-11-24 12:37:04 AM

EngineerAU: skinink: It will be nice when the NCAA just relents to let the colleges with major athletic programs to just pay their players, or any college for that matter.

The NCAA isn't a government  body. It's a voluntary organization made up of the schools it regulates. If the schools actually wanted to share athletic income with their players (above aboard that is) it would happen. It's weird how many people think the NCAA somehow magically appeared one day and enslaved the colleges and universities of the US (plus Simon Fraser). Any school that doesn't like the NCAA can drop out at any time. And if the schools collectively want to pay players, the NCAA can't stop them because the schools are the NCAA.



It's easier to have a bureaucratic bogeyman than to admit that colleges don't want to share their income with anyone, let alone a bunch of dumb jocks.

Chrissakes, these universities routinely screw over veteran professors out of money. Do you really think they'd be square dealing with a 20-year old kid with a high school diploma and no prospects if they get kicked out of school.
 
2013-11-24 12:41:31 AM
That's the booster's job, this is what happens when you step on peoples toes.
 
2013-11-24 01:23:49 AM
How obvious do you have to be to get caught paying a player at Alabama? This guy clearly didn't want the job anymore.
 
2013-11-24 01:34:43 AM
For the record, I work with a guy who played for 'Bama back in the 90's. He says the  football alumni love Saban because the first thing he did was kick the boosters out of practices (apparently, the players find them just as annoying as the coaches do). He also cracked down on academics and various other shenanigans and runs a tight ship.

Given what he's created at Alabama, he has no need to provide special "anything" for the players: his team is not dependent on any one player and he can tell any one of them to take a hike if they don't meet the standards he sets. And by cracking down on them, he's doing them a favor. Yet, he'll still get the cream of the recruiting crop. Payoffs, loans, special privileges, etc. are for the desperate.
 
2013-11-24 03:29:16 AM
ScreamingHangover:  Payoffs, loans, special privileges, etc. are for the desperate.

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2013-11-24 07:59:40 AM

stoli n coke: Chrissakes, these universities routinely screw over veteran professors out of money. Do you really think they'd be square dealing with a 20-year old kid with a high school diploma and no prospects if they get kicked out of school.


The schools with money aren't really the problem here anyway.  The problem is that you'll have some small redneck school with some megalomaniac AD and a political atmosphere with football on the agenda.  Most smaller football programs are already in the red.  Add player pay on top of that and you've got a disaster in the making.

The problem with football and money is that everyone becomes a myopic plutocrat, extrapolating the situation of the top 1% to the rest.  You don't help a homeless alcoholic by giving out investing tips, but for some goddamn reason when people talk about paying student-athletes they always start with football and basketball players from the few schools with money to burn.
 
2013-11-24 08:46:45 AM

dragonchild: stoli n coke: Chrissakes, these universities routinely screw over veteran professors out of money. Do you really think they'd be square dealing with a 20-year old kid with a high school diploma and no prospects if they get kicked out of school.

The schools with money aren't really the problem here anyway.  The problem is that you'll have some small redneck school with some megalomaniac AD and a political atmosphere with football on the agenda.  Most smaller football programs are already in the red.  Add player pay on top of that and you've got a disaster in the making.

The problem with football and money is that everyone becomes a myopic plutocrat, extrapolating the situation of the top 1% to the rest.  You don't help a homeless alcoholic by giving out investing tips, but for some goddamn reason when people talk about paying student-athletes they always start with football and basketball players from the few schools with money to burn.


Let's be honest here.  We all know which schools are more or less the minor leagues for the NFL and the NBA, and which schools aren't.  Create a new divison in college athletics, that allows the really elite teams to pay their players, and keeps them from setting up creampuff schedules.
 
2013-11-24 08:50:10 AM
Dafuq kind of name is Ha Ha?
 
2013-11-24 08:54:09 AM

devildog123: Let's be honest here. We all know which schools are more or less the minor leagues for the NFL and the NBA, and which schools aren't. Create a new divison in college athletics, that allows the really elite teams to pay their players, and keeps them from setting up creampuff schedules.


Fine, but that's a completely different conversation.  I'm all for a real minor league, although the big football conferences would never let that fly.  We could make super-divisions but the small guys will fight that tooth n' nail.  But just saying "pay the players" is making it out to be a single fix to a complex problem and that's flat-out dangerous.
 
2013-11-24 09:01:44 AM

abhorrent1: Dafuq kind of name is Ha Ha?


His name is Ha'Sean, but his grandmother called him Ha Ha since he was a little kid.
 
2013-11-24 03:49:32 PM

devildog123: dragonchild: stoli n coke: Chrissakes, these universities routinely screw over veteran professors out of money. Do you really think they'd be square dealing with a 20-year old kid with a high school diploma and no prospects if they get kicked out of school.

The schools with money aren't really the problem here anyway.  The problem is that you'll have some small redneck school with some megalomaniac AD and a political atmosphere with football on the agenda.  Most smaller football programs are already in the red.  Add player pay on top of that and you've got a disaster in the making.

The problem with football and money is that everyone becomes a myopic plutocrat, extrapolating the situation of the top 1% to the rest.  You don't help a homeless alcoholic by giving out investing tips, but for some goddamn reason when people talk about paying student-athletes they always start with football and basketball players from the few schools with money to burn.

Let's be honest here.  We all know which schools are more or less the minor leagues for the NFL and the NBA, and which schools aren't.  Create a new divison in college athletics, that allows the really elite teams to pay their players, and keeps them from setting up creampuff schedules.


How about separate the athletic program from the school entirely and rename it an NFL expansion team?
 
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