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(New Musical Express)   The National Music Publishers' Association is trying to take down lyrics websites because they somehow make a profit off of posting lyrics. Well, how else are you going to understand what Tom Petty, Bob Dylan and Eminem are saying?   (nme.com) divider line 35
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2013-11-23 01:34:52 PM
I have no problem with lyrics websites being taken down.  Almost every time I try to find a song on one of those sites I get attacked by malware.  It never shows up on a porn site.  Just a damn lyrics site.

So nuke them from low earth orbit.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-11-23 02:22:39 PM
I thought the lyric sites licensed lyrics in return for a share of revenue. If they're just engaging in outright copyright violation I'm surprised they lasted this long.
 
2013-11-23 04:40:43 PM
"This must be stopped.  I think people should pay for shiat, I do"

- John Cooper Clarke.


People are already paying for shiat, shiat accounts for the major of what qualifies as "music" nowadays.
 
2013-11-23 05:02:41 PM
Crap... I just thought of how to run a profitable lyric site without douching up the ads, while making it a revenue generator for the songwriter and performers. I have to buy my IP lawyer a steak dinner and run it past his ears.
 
2013-11-23 05:07:08 PM
Just give me a farking copy of the lyrics when I buy the songs on iTunes.  In a readable format.  None of this PDF scan of the booklet that comes in the CD nonsense.
 
2013-11-23 05:14:05 PM
Bob Dylan posts his lyrics on his own website.
 
2013-11-23 05:16:30 PM
 
2013-11-23 05:31:58 PM
The only industry on the face of the earth that try to make it  harder to do business with them--and then wonder why they're losing money.
 
2013-11-23 05:35:37 PM
They've been doing this for at least the last fifteen years.  I remember a site called lyrics.ch which was a fantastic source for lyrics, and then suddenly they got hit with a suit by the Harry Morris Agency.  They were taken over by the plaintiff, who immediately installed some sort of Java app on there, and it was never the same afterwards, and now is completely gone from cyberspace.

/now get off my digital lawn
 
2013-11-23 05:42:22 PM
Can't they just call themselves parody sites?
 
2013-11-23 06:30:48 PM

BizarreMan: I have no problem with lyrics websites being taken down.  Almost every time I try to find a song on one of those sites I get attacked by malware.  It never shows up on a porn site.  Just a damn lyrics site.

So nuke them from low earth orbit.


Sony/BMG put rootkits on their music CD's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scand al

They only paid a teeny tiny fine with no prison time.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/128310/article.html


/Allowed them to read all your computer.
//If a CD has a small video on it, theres usually an executable right next to it.
 
2013-11-23 06:40:49 PM

bluorangefyre: they got hit with a suit by the Harry Morris Agency


I think you mean the Harry Fox Agency, which in US in the largest administrator of songwriter publishing rights.

It's a little hypocritical for artists to take RapGenius's side on this and then also cash the royalty checks HFA sends them.  If you want your lyrics in the public domain, then put them there.
 
2013-11-23 06:49:48 PM
I totally agree with the publishers on this one. People who need to see the lyrics should just go to the official websites and get the lyrics there.
 
2013-11-23 06:55:00 PM
Oh please, Dylan/Eminem/Petty are practically Shakespearean orators compared to Eddie Vedder
 
2013-11-23 07:27:23 PM
Fark this shiat.

I like being able to access lyrics to half remembered songs.

If anything these sites make music publishers money by keeping people interested in the music.

It's a stupid money grab that's gonna cost them.
 
2013-11-23 07:45:58 PM

NateAsbestos: Oh please, Dylan/Eminem/Petty are practically Shakespearean orators compared to Eddie Vedder


On a wizard. On a whale
 
2013-11-23 07:56:09 PM
wow, that's farking stupid.
 
2013-11-23 08:51:18 PM

Snapper Carr: NateAsbestos: Oh please, Dylan/Eminem/Petty are practically Shakespearean orators compared to Eddie Vedder

On a wizard. On a whale


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
2013-11-23 09:07:37 PM
what are the word to "  Carouselambra"  anyways?

How keen the storied hunter's eye prevails upon the land 
To seek the unsuspecting and the weak; 
And powerless the fabled sat, too smug to lift a hand 
Toward the foe that threatened from the deep. 
Who cares to dry the cheeks of those who saddened stand 
Adrift upon a sea of futile speech?
 
2013-11-23 09:11:37 PM
If it weren't for lyrics site how would we have ever known that CCR wasn't telling us where the bathroom was or that England Dan and John Ford Coley weren't talking about the linen?
 
2013-11-23 10:02:17 PM
So the music industry should start a site like IMDB but for Music/Lyrics (there already be one I don't know) and then get all the "illegal" ones taken down.
 
2013-11-23 10:45:42 PM
Same story popped up on Slashdot, and I have no idea why there's this concerted effort to report it incorrectly. Makes you wonder who's really behind it...

No, they're not trying to make all lyrics sites go away.
Yes, they realize that you search for new music by lyrics because you heard half a verse on the radio and wanted to find out what the song was.
All they're doing is going after the unlicensed sites that copy lyrics from legitimate sites (frequently with errors), and spam you with tons of pop-ups and malware. Lyrics.com, allmusic, etc. will all still exist, and will even do better, because they won't be losing traffic to lyrics.autodownloadrootkit.ru.
 
2013-11-23 10:50:17 PM

fusillade762: Can't they just call themselves parody sites?


Just says its a site full of what you think the lyrics are?
 
2013-11-23 10:57:06 PM

Theaetetus: Same story popped up on Slashdot, and I have no idea why there's this concerted effort to report it incorrectly. Makes you wonder who's really behind it...

No, they're not trying to make all lyrics sites go away.
Yes, they realize that you search for new music by lyrics because you heard half a verse on the radio and wanted to find out what the song was.
All they're doing is going after the unlicensed sites that copy lyrics from legitimate sites (frequently with errors), and spam you with tons of pop-ups and malware. Lyrics.com, allmusic, etc. will all still exist, and will even do better, because they won't be losing traffic to lyrics.autodownloadrootkit.ru.


Sounds like a good thing.
 
2013-11-24 12:40:11 AM

BizarreMan: I have no problem with lyrics websites being taken down.  Almost every time I try to find a song on one of those sites I get attacked by malware.  It never shows up on a porn site.  Just a damn lyrics site.

So nuke them from low earth orbit.


I read somewhere on the internet (ergo it must be true) that the most common infection vector now is lyrics sites via teen/kids/etc.

Because they will click on anything and don't care, and are constantly searching lyrics or something.
 
2013-11-24 02:28:41 AM
How stupid.... First, it's not like the music labels are providing lyrics on competing sites anyway. If they aren't filling the niche, and don't plan to, then they need to fark off. Second, at the worst, it's making people discover and buy the music anyway.

As for Rap Genius, I discovered it just recently, and I was rather impressed, as they use different font colors, and bolded text to denote different 'voices' or other kinds of delivery in the songs. I was rather impressed by that simple approach.

Seriously though, if they aren't going to provide this information themselves, then they need to STFU.

Waldo Pepper: So the music industry should start a site like IMDB but for Music/Lyrics (there already be one I don't know) and then get all the "illegal" ones taken down.


Except that they won't, but they'll continue to biatch if other people do. They are too lazy/cheap/stupid to do it themselves.
 
2013-11-24 04:39:46 AM

Waldo Pepper: So the music industry should start a site like IMDB but for Music/Lyrics (there already be one I don't know) and then get all the "illegal" ones taken down.


The music industry itself doesn't have an official one, but there do exist two: All Music for reviews of artists, albums and discographies. But no lyrics. And Discogs, an immense database of everything every record label has ever released. But no lyrics.

These sites exist and can continue exist because they do not contain any of the three official copyright portions of music: lyrics, melody, harmony. Note, however, that groove and rhythm are not copyrightable, because music copyright law was written decades ago by white people. So therefore you can steal James Brown and Bo Diddly with aplomb and nothing will happen, but if you steal one note from ABBA, their lawyers will come for you.

Incidentally, if you are black and/or a lawyer, make a name for yourself in music copyright law and right the wrongs.
 
2013-11-24 06:07:27 AM
shiat, it's not as if people who are searching lyrics might be enticed to buy music legally for the songs they like through a non-combative partnership between popular lyrics sites and the music industry
 
2013-11-24 11:38:47 AM

BizarreMan: I have no problem with lyrics websites being taken down.  Almost every time I try to find a song on one of those sites I get attacked by malware.  It never shows up on a porn site.  Just a damn lyrics site.

So nuke them from low earth orbit.


That's why you go to AZLyrics.com. JUST lyrics, ZERO bullshiat. No pictures, no malware, JUST lyrics.
 
2013-11-24 11:53:52 AM

Mikey1969: How stupid.... First, it's not like the music labels are providing lyrics on competing sites anyway. If they aren't filling the niche, and don't plan to, then they need to fark off.


They do. As a result, the rest of your post is a fail.
 
2013-11-24 01:01:37 PM

Theaetetus: Mikey1969: How stupid.... First, it's not like the music labels are providing lyrics on competing sites anyway. If they aren't filling the niche, and don't plan to, then they need to fark off.

They do. As a result, the rest of your post is a fail.


Haven't found a single site that had lyrics that was "official", but you go with that, it seems to empower you Snark Side...
 
2013-11-24 02:54:36 PM
Lyric websites save us from embarrassing mondegreens.  Now, excuse me while I kiss this guy...
 
2013-11-24 04:03:22 PM

Mikey1969: Haven't found a single site that had lyrics that was "official"


Have you heard of RapGenius?  I heard somewhere that they just signed a deal with Sony/ATV that makes them an official lyrics site for the world's largest music publisher.

Oh that's right, it was in TFA.
 
2013-11-24 04:12:06 PM

Mikey1969: Theaetetus: Mikey1969: How stupid.... First, it's not like the music labels are providing lyrics on competing sites anyway. If they aren't filling the niche, and don't plan to, then they need to fark off.

They do. As a result, the rest of your post is a fail.

Haven't found a single site that had lyrics that was "official", but you go with that, it seems to empower you Snark Side...


azlyrics.com is a licensed site. There's about 50 other licensed sites, in fact. Here's a list. In fact, when you search for "lyrics" on Google, every single result except for "letssingit.com" is a licensed provider. So, if you "haven't found a single site", then maybe you should stop immediately jumping to the 10th page of search results.
 
2013-11-24 04:19:17 PM

poot_rootbeer: Mikey1969: Haven't found a single site that had lyrics that was "official"

Have you heard of RapGenius?  I heard somewhere that they just signed a deal with Sony/ATV that makes them an official lyrics site for the world's largest music publisher.

Oh that's right, it was in TFA.


You know what was in TFA? People hatching left and right about how RapGenius is the biggest 'offender'...

"Lowery, an academic and songwriter/performer in Californian alternative-rock bands Cracker and Camper Van Beethoven, created a list as part of a study for the University of Georgia of the Top 50 'undesirable' lyric sites with Rap Genius at the top."

As for the Sony deal, it's just newly announced, it's not like it's been a thing for any period of time.

So yeah, it's "in TFA", but so is the part where the very site you pointed out is considered the biggest pirate, so shove your smug "win" up your ads, because you didn't really drop the bombshell you think you did.
 
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