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(Mother Nature Network)   When I was your age, we didn't trick-or-treat, we went masking. And we didn't do it on Halloween, we did it on Thanksgiving. And we wore onions around our belts because that was the style at the time (Bonus: Pictures that will haunt your dreams)   (mnn.com) divider line 46
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2013-11-23 08:28:08 AM
Can we stop pretending old black and white photos of kids having fun in poorly made masks are a source of terror?
 
2013-11-23 08:40:25 AM
 
2013-11-23 10:45:27 AM
*clicks on link*

*shrugs*

*exits thread*
 
2013-11-23 10:46:06 AM
Sure were a lot of black face back then. I wonder if they worried about being called racist?
 
2013-11-23 10:46:31 AM
We did this as late as the early 60's in rural areas of Indiana...........
 
2013-11-23 10:51:25 AM
So it's essentially guising, but given a different name?
 
2013-11-23 10:53:40 AM
Guising, or perhaps mummery.

twignl.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-11-23 10:55:15 AM

thamike: Can we stop pretending old black and white photos of kids having fun in poorly made masks are a source of terror?


This. It's become the equivalent of "smoking hot" submissions.
 
2013-11-23 10:55:43 AM
acidcow.com
 
2013-11-23 11:02:06 AM

Candy Colored Clown: thamike: Can we stop pretending old black and white photos of kids having fun in poorly made masks are a source of terror?

This. It's become the equivalent of "smoking hot" submissions.


At least those have a base-level rope-a-dope comedic value.  The "thing of nightmares" schtick is getting old, simply because of the wealth of sh*t on the internet that will actually give you nightmares.
 
2013-11-23 11:03:18 AM

Valiente: Guising, or perhaps mummery.

[twignl.files.wordpress.com image 222x299]


Came here to post about Mummers.  You beat me to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E86bcriRtW8

/Wife is a Newfoundlander
 
2013-11-23 11:04:54 AM
Some of those pictures are full of awesome-sauce.

I love old black and whites with clarity and depth.

/not a photographer, so what do I know.
 
2013-11-23 11:05:25 AM
They painted their faces black and carried sticks and demanded things from people...
 
2013-11-23 11:07:19 AM
Ok, I'll call your stuff of nightmare...

And raise you more old timey...

www.albany.edu
 
2013-11-23 11:08:11 AM
FTA -   Progressive Era ritual  ..  begging for apples and pennies ...

Progressives. They believe in you begging ...
 
2013-11-23 11:08:55 AM

ReverendJynxed: They painted their faces black and carried sticks and demanded things from people...


THEY ARE... THE PROTOCOPS

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HAI TUNGO NO BATATISMA KU JUN TAKO DADO ROOOOUH
 
2013-11-23 11:13:03 AM

oldwolf49: We did this as late as the early 60's in rural areas of Indiana...........


Did you still do the blackface?
 
2013-11-23 11:15:59 AM
Now I get all that "white privilege" stuff
 
2013-11-23 11:17:50 AM
acidcow.com
 
2013-11-23 11:20:00 AM
"Give me a turkey leg or else!!!!!"
 
2013-11-23 11:27:46 AM
"It's called 'masking,' and YOUR kids could be doing it RIGHT NOW.

They say it makes them HIGH, and in the mood for SEX.

Tune in tonight for a report your family CAN'T AFFORD to miss."
 
2013-11-23 11:56:17 AM

Godscrack:


A black cop?

That's just crazy!
 
2013-11-23 11:57:00 AM
I wonder how quick that would get you stopped by police in 2013.
 
2013-11-23 11:58:06 AM

Apos: *clicks on link*

*shrugs*

*exits thread*


The part I found interesting is that the "streets" shown in the photos are nothing but mud bogs...no pavement or even gravel. I am old enough to remember talking with ancestors who were born in the 1800's, and who talked about everyone taking the trains interstate and even intercity because it could take weeks to travel any distance by car in other than the summer, when the mud was dried rock hard.
 
2013-11-23 12:01:00 PM

Stone Meadow: Apos: *clicks on link*

*shrugs*

*exits thread*

The part I found interesting is that the "streets" shown in the photos are nothing but mud bogs...no pavement or even gravel. I am old enough to remember talking with ancestors who were born in the 1800's, and who talked about everyone taking the trains interstate and even intercity because it could take weeks to travel any distance by car in other than the summer, when the mud was dried rock hard.


Didn't most people just use horses?
 
2013-11-23 12:10:14 PM

Clemkadidlefark: FTA -   Progressive Era ritual  ..  begging for apples and pennies ...

Progressives. They believe in you begging ...


Conservatives,smirking at poor kids begging for pennies.
 
2013-11-23 12:13:31 PM

lack of warmth: Sure were a lot of black face back then. I wonder if they worried about being called racist?


Probably not since they lived in an era when public lynchings of black people included bringing a picnic basket to the event.
 
2013-11-23 12:27:50 PM

shastacola: lack of warmth: Sure were a lot of black face back then. I wonder if they worried about being called racist?

Probably not since they lived in an era when public lynchings of black people included bringing a picnic basket to the event.


Which is why televised executions of criminals will never be a deterrent to committing crime. They'll be entertainment, same as it ever was.
 
2013-11-23 12:28:41 PM

sendtodave: Stone Meadow: Apos: *clicks on link*

*shrugs*

*exits thread*

The part I found interesting is that the "streets" shown in the photos are nothing but mud bogs...no pavement or even gravel. I am old enough to remember talking with ancestors who were born in the 1800's, and who talked about everyone taking the trains interstate and even intercity because it could take weeks to travel any distance by car in other than the summer, when the mud was dried rock hard.

Didn't most people just use horses?


Yes...it was post-WW1 before many people routinely drove intercity, but horse-n-buggy travel had its own challenges during the 6 months a year or so that the ground was neither frozen nor baked rock hard. The steel-banded wheels were only about 2" wide, so would readily sink into the mud, and travel on roads was often at less than a mile per hour. Walking or riding was generally quicker. Even then it was not practical to walk or ride the family over to grandma's house for Sunday dinner if it was in the next county or state.

Steam powered road building equipment was becoming more common by WW1, and there was a huge boom in gravel quarrying and local road building (based on railbed technology developed in the 19th century) from the end of the war throughout the 20's and 30's, and which totally revolutionized private road travel. That said, I have photos of a grandfather still using a horse and buggy in the 1940's. Ten years later even those of the most humble means could afford a used car or pickup, and horse and buggy travel pretty much disappeared by 1950.
 
2013-11-23 12:32:54 PM
WordyGrrl
Which is why televised executions of criminals will never be a deterrent to committing crime. They'll be entertainment, same as it ever was.


Not that I disagree with your fundamental point, but are you comparing lynchings in the old south to executions today?

It might be interesting to find out the history or the average old school southern lynching and do a compare and contrast against the average state execution in the US today.
 
2013-11-23 12:54:16 PM
my dad grew up in nyc and spoke of the bums (not balckface) the begged on thanksgiving.
also of socks filled with flour to hit each other
so now it makes a little more sense (kinda)
 
2013-11-23 01:24:26 PM

oldwolf49: We did this as late as the early 60's in rural areas of Indiana...........


What do you know, I grew up in rural Indiana in the early 60s.  Our costumes tended to be much more thrown-together back then, although we didn't make masks.  I remember once or twice getting the store-bought costume that I wanted oh-so-very much, and then you found out that they were junk.

Pretty sure we had much more fun back then, running around our tiny town unsupervised (only night of the year we could do that) than we would have in today's suburban chaperoned off-the-streets-by-7 world, where little kids have to compete with shameless bands of high schoolers.
 
2013-11-23 01:26:58 PM
Was that back in nineteen dignity two?
 
2013-11-23 01:27:34 PM
Goddamn spell checker.   First the kaiser took our word for twenty, then spell check took our word for diggity.
 
2013-11-23 01:32:04 PM
a little scaryimg.fark.net
 
2013-11-23 01:52:32 PM
can anyone please show me an illustration of Onion on the belt thing?

Thanks
 
2013-11-23 02:10:20 PM
All I can think about when I look at those old-timey photos is...the smell.

They bathed once a week, laundry was a huge undertaking so they didn't have many clothes and wore them for several days. They pooped in outhouses and didn't have TP.  All that horseshiat on the streets.  No garbage removal.  I don't mean to say that they were slobs: I'm sure most of them tried their best, it was just really hard work taking care of all that stuff.
 
2013-11-23 02:10:20 PM

Godscrack:


That's pretty cute actually.
 
2013-11-23 02:15:46 PM

nycdude: can anyone please show me an illustration of Onion on the belt thing?

Thanks


I'll go the extra mile and show you quite a few:

www.edora.eu

/You're welcome
 
2013-11-23 02:24:02 PM

Apos: nycdude: can anyone please show me an illustration of Onion on the belt thing?

Thanks

I'll go the extra mile and show you quite a few:

[www.edora.eu image 640x480]

/You're welcome


You can't count to potato.
 
2013-11-23 03:16:04 PM
i226.photobucket.com

Masking?
 
2013-11-23 04:55:10 PM
Creepy masks?
img.fark.net
 
2013-11-23 06:08:23 PM

shastacola: lack of warmth: Sure were a lot of black face back then. I wonder if they worried about being called racist?

Probably not since they lived in an era when public lynchings of black people included bringing a picnic basket to the event.


Yet, it was likely just as offensive back then as it is today.  I'm sure I would be pissed if someone dressed like me to portray a beggar, regardless of the year.
 
2013-11-23 11:45:50 PM

Turbo Cojones: [i226.photobucket.com image 220x545]

Masking?


Nice to see that pic still lives
 
2013-11-24 02:30:57 AM
Jean de Baton Baton approves.
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2013-11-24 09:44:12 AM

Enemabag Jones: WordyGrrl
Which is why televised executions of criminals will never be a deterrent to committing crime. They'll be entertainment, same as it ever was.

Not that I disagree with your fundamental point, but are you comparing lynchings in the old south to executions today?

It might be interesting to find out the history or the average old school southern lynching and do a compare and contrast against the average state execution in the US today


I wasn't referring specifically (or only) to lynchings, but there is a similarity regarding the types of crowds those events attract. Although it only sometimes gets on the news, state executions (at least in Texas) bring a crowd of sign-waving celebrants to the prison where the execution is taking place. Some of them make a tailgate party of it, and they cheer when they get word that the convict has been pronounced dead by execution. In that sense, yes, it does seem like the old lynch mob crowd of old.

/It would be interesting to compare/contrast the two, yes. Lynching in the old South had the added element of "sending a message" to particular racial groups that strikes me as similar to those terrorist beheading videos.
 
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