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2013-11-22 11:44:04 AM
Microsoft already said they weren't going to allow off-line updating of the XBox One.
 
2013-11-22 11:47:27 AM
wait, I thought the X Box One was going to be the most flawless piece of machinery known to man and make people who are experiencing ps4 issues drop Sony forever!
 
2013-11-22 11:57:42 AM

ManateeGag: wait, I thought the X Box One was going to be the most flawless piece of machinery known to man and make people who are experiencing ps4 issues drop Sony forever!


Nah.  That's just what the PS4 fan boyz are telling each other to boost their morale after such poor judgement in console selection.
 
2013-11-22 12:59:17 PM
What I've seen so far indicates that it has been a pretty successful launch - I'm seeing less reports of failures than for the PS4 during the same period of its launch. The issues on the xbone also seemed confined (for the moment) to a single hardware issue, rather than the gamut of issues that cropped up on the PS4.

That said, I'm pretty sure the folks at Microsoft had a pretty bad night last night, after a hiccup with MS' cloud servers knocked pretty much all of their infrastructure out. For a minute there Outlook, Office365, xbox.com and XBLA all went down at the same time.
 
2013-11-22 01:16:19 PM
Pffft, real gamers buy the Wii U.
 
2013-11-22 01:19:17 PM
Meanwhile PC gaming laughs at your little toys
 
2013-11-22 01:19:29 PM

Elegy: That said, I'm pretty sure the folks at Microsoft had a pretty bad night last night, after a hiccup with MS' cloud servers knocked pretty much all of their infrastructure out. For a minute there Outlook, Office365, xbox.com and XBLA all went down at the same time.


EGADS! That practically an apocalypse!

I've been following the XB1 support forums this a.m.  It looks like there's something like 50-100 people having disc or power supply issues.  A few more having some type of controller issue and a few kinnect issues.  There's like 600 1 star ratings on amazon, but almost all of those jerkoffs are just trolling ("It caught fire and burned my house down!").
 
2013-11-22 01:20:55 PM
I'll admit, instead of jumping in on this new wave, I'm thinking of just spending a few hundred on a new tower. Though I'm not sure there are currently any games out there that I actually care about, which is a really sad place to be in.
 
2013-11-22 01:24:59 PM
Me Chinese
Me connive
Me protest at the inhuman factory work conditions by sabotaging your new console's optical drive.
 
2013-11-22 01:25:00 PM
On the plus side, it looks as if they addressed the overheating problems of the last generation.
 
2013-11-22 01:25:45 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Meanwhile PC gaming laughs at your little toys


derpy derp detected
 
2013-11-22 01:25:50 PM

Elegy: What I've seen so far indicates that it has been a pretty successful launch - I'm seeing less reports of failures than for the PS4 during the same period of its launch. The issues on the xbone also seemed confined (for the moment) to a single hardware issue, rather than the gamut of issues that cropped up on the PS4.

That said, I'm pretty sure the folks at Microsoft had a pretty bad night last night, after a hiccup with MS' cloud servers knocked pretty much all of their infrastructure out. For a minute there Outlook, Office365, xbox.com and XBLA all went down at the same time.


curious - which part of the Microsoft marketing department do you work for?
 
2013-11-22 01:29:47 PM

gingerjet: Elegy: What I've seen so far indicates that it has been a pretty successful launch - I'm seeing less reports of failures than for the PS4 during the same period of its launch. The issues on the xbone also seemed confined (for the moment) to a single hardware issue, rather than the gamut of issues that cropped up on the PS4.

That said, I'm pretty sure the folks at Microsoft had a pretty bad night last night, after a hiccup with MS' cloud servers knocked pretty much all of their infrastructure out. For a minute there Outlook, Office365, xbox.com and XBLA all went down at the same time.

curious - which part of the Microsoft marketing department do you work for?


Uh, 'the internet'?

That's been the general consensus I've heard on it, from redditt. Hell, websites had preprimed 'xbox farks users!!' Articles and 'join here if the xbox hurt you!!' Stuff. Everyone was ready to scream for clicks. It just hasn't happened.

There's been, gasp, about a normal fail rate.
 
2013-11-22 01:30:40 PM
My Xbox One is coming from Amazon sometime today. I'm excited because I feel there is no better way to observe the 50th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination than buying a new console so I can shoot people in the head with sniper rifles online.
 
2013-11-22 01:34:18 PM

Mad_Radhu: I'm excited because I feel there is no better way to observe the 50th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination than buying a new console so I can shoot people in the head with sniper rifles online.


LOL, nice.
 
2013-11-22 01:35:25 PM
So, basically, the big news is that two consumer electronic devices launched successfully with acceptable failure rates and responsive help from the companies for the few people affected?

/ I was promised blood in the streets!
 
kab
2013-11-22 01:37:02 PM
i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-11-22 01:37:02 PM

Princess Ryans Knickers: Pffft, real gamers buy the Wii U.


well, the wii u's got:

-durability
-great controller comfort
-non gimmicky premise
-multi-tasking that matters (aka: lemme look up the gamefaqs for this... or play a game while another game downloads)
-indie games
-free online
-backwards compatibility
-interesting online community
-no ads
-games
-nothing to do with facebook

sounds great, i'd buy any console that had all of those things
 
2013-11-22 01:41:21 PM

kab: [i0.kym-cdn.com image 500x387]


For being a master race, it's pretty sad he still lives with his mom.
 
2013-11-22 01:42:20 PM

skozlaw: So, basically, the big news is that two consumer electronic devices launched successfully with acceptable failure rates and responsive help from the companies for the few people affected?

/ I was promised blood in the streets!


Pretty much this.  Seems like both consoles had pretty reasonable failure rates.  Personally, I'd be more concerned with the fact that the XB1 runs some titles at 720p that PS4 runs at 900p or 1080p, and the implications that has down the line, but perhaps that's just me.
 
2013-11-22 01:43:24 PM
AdamK:
-great controller comfort
-non gimmicky premise


based on these 2, this has to be a troll.
 
2013-11-22 01:44:14 PM

Gordon Bennett: Me Chinese
Me connive
Me protest at the inhuman factory work conditions by sabotaging your new console's optical drive.


What? No racist cartoon to go with that post?
 
2013-11-22 01:44:59 PM

AdamK: Princess Ryans Knickers: Pffft, real gamers buy the Wii U.

well, the wii u's got:

-durability
-great controller comfort
-non gimmicky premise
-multi-tasking that matters (aka: lemme look up the gamefaqs for this... or play a game while another game downloads)
-indie games
-free online
-backwards compatibility
-interesting online community
-no ads
-games
-nothing to do with facebook

sounds great, i'd buy any console that had all of those things


But everyone seems to forget that it just isn't cool to play nintendo games anymore because they are "kiddy".

I will take my wiiu/PC thank you very much. Have not heard of any widespread wiiu launch failures, but ninty is known for some quality hardware.
 
2013-11-22 01:45:25 PM

ManateeGag: AdamK:
-great controller comfort
-non gimmicky premise

based on these 2, this has to be a troll.


-interesting online community  ... or counting to potato based on this one.
 
2013-11-22 01:45:38 PM

Mad_Radhu: My Xbox One is coming from Amazon sometime today. I'm excited because I feel there is no better way to observe the 50th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination than buying a new console so I can shoot people in the head with sniper rifles online.


Ha. Same here.

What's funny to me is I've been accused of being a msft shill because I live in Seattle and it's in my profile. The truth is I work for a construction company... and while I often say the soon to arrive x-box will be my first console ever, that's not strictly true because when I was a wee lad we had one of those pong things you taped over your tv screen. Where it gets really weird is BOTH my next door neighbors not only work at msft, they're on the xbox team. Dude tried to give me an xbox last year and I said no.
 
2013-11-22 01:45:52 PM

ManateeGag: AdamK:
-great controller comfort
-non gimmicky premise

based on these 2, this has to be a troll.


Obviously he was talking about PCs.
 
2013-11-22 01:46:37 PM
Has anyone heard about how plentiful supply will be for the holiday season on both systems (PS4, Xbone)?
 
2013-11-22 01:47:08 PM

chozo13: Have not heard of any widespread wiiu launch failures


Uhh the entire Wii U launch was a failure.
 
2013-11-22 01:47:21 PM
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2013-11-22 01:48:32 PM

HeartBurnKid: skozlaw: So, basically, the big news is that two consumer electronic devices launched successfully with acceptable failure rates and responsive help from the companies for the few people affected?

/ I was promised blood in the streets!

Pretty much this.  Seems like both consoles had pretty reasonable failure rates.  Personally, I'd be more concerned with the fact that the XB1 runs some titles at 720p that PS4 runs at 900p or 1080p, and the implications that has down the line, but perhaps that's just me.


Thats a software issue mostly.

Additionally, the reviews of 720p vs 1080 comparing PS4 and Xbox have reported no visual difference.
 
2013-11-22 01:48:47 PM

scottydoesntknow: chozo13: Have not heard of any widespread wiiu launch failures

Uhh the entire Wii U launch was a failure.


Oh Snap!
 
2013-11-22 01:50:16 PM

olapbill: Smeggy Smurf: Meanwhile PC gaming laughs at your little toys

derpy derp detected


When did a post from a politics thread come over here?
 
2013-11-22 01:51:28 PM
 
2013-11-22 01:51:28 PM

hammer85: I notice a distinct lack of frepnog in this thread.  Unsurprising.


Now who will explain to us that XBone failures don't matter, but PS4 failures count twice as much? Who else is going to say less than a day's worth of XBone failures is all we get while a weeks worth of PS4 failures is the tip of the iceberg that will sink Sony?
 
2013-11-22 01:55:25 PM
Most likely skipping this generation of consoles (I'm one of the elite PC Gaming master race) though if it gets some great exclusives I just might grab a PS4 in a year or so.

What's really exciting me is the possible major comeback of VR starting next year with the release of the Oculus Rift. There are also a few other competitors with their own VR headsets though the Oculus guys seem to have their shiat together before anyone else.

There was kind of a false start for the whole VR idea back in the 90s. But it fizzled out because the graphics sucked, the screen resolution sucked, the headsets were bulky as hell, the frame rate sucked, the head tracking sucked, and the 3D control schemes sucked. Every single one of those issues has been resolved over the years and I think we'd all be using VR headsets already if the 90s didn't scare everyone away from the idea.

I think VR might the real next generation.

Then again, I haven't actually tried any of the upcoming VR headsets. Perhaps it's still a flawed idea and this will just be another short VR fad that dies away like the one in the 90s. I'm hoping it's here to stay though. Also, augmented reality is pretty sweet too.
 
2013-11-22 01:56:00 PM

justtray: HeartBurnKid: skozlaw: So, basically, the big news is that two consumer electronic devices launched successfully with acceptable failure rates and responsive help from the companies for the few people affected?

/ I was promised blood in the streets!

Pretty much this.  Seems like both consoles had pretty reasonable failure rates.  Personally, I'd be more concerned with the fact that the XB1 runs some titles at 720p that PS4 runs at 900p or 1080p, and the implications that has down the line, but perhaps that's just me.

Thats a software issue mostly.

Additionally, the reviews of 720p vs 1080 comparing PS4 and Xbox have reported no visual difference.


Not to your poor console peasant eyes, at least.
 
2013-11-22 02:00:09 PM

justtray: HeartBurnKid: skozlaw: So, basically, the big news is that two consumer electronic devices launched successfully with acceptable failure rates and responsive help from the companies for the few people affected?

/ I was promised blood in the streets!

Pretty much this.  Seems like both consoles had pretty reasonable failure rates.  Personally, I'd be more concerned with the fact that the XB1 runs some titles at 720p that PS4 runs at 900p or 1080p, and the implications that has down the line, but perhaps that's just me.

Thats a software issue mostly.



I thought it was related to the reports that the Xbox memory is quite a bit slower than the PS4 memory.


/probably mostly due to working out development issues on a new platform
 
2013-11-22 02:01:16 PM

gingerjet: Elegy: What I've seen so far indicates that it has been a pretty successful launch - I'm seeing less reports of failures than for the PS4 during the same period of its launch. The issues on the xbone also seemed confined (for the moment) to a single hardware issue, rather than the gamut of issues that cropped up on the PS4.

That said, I'm pretty sure the folks at Microsoft had a pretty bad night last night, after a hiccup with MS' cloud servers knocked pretty much all of their infrastructure out. For a minute there Outlook, Office365, xbox.com and XBLA all went down at the same time.

curious - which part of the Microsoft marketing department do you work for?


Curious - why do you think I'm shilling for Microsoft when I talked about the failure of pretty much their entire cloud infrastructure just hours prior to launching their console?

If you have any sauce that proves there are massive problems with the xbone release, please provide.

Otherwise, I'm calling it like I see it, and you can fark off.
 
2013-11-22 02:02:30 PM
i.imgur.com Microsoft.

Charging you more for less.
 
2013-11-22 02:05:24 PM

Surool: Gordon Bennett: Me Chinese
Me connive
Me protest at the inhuman factory work conditions by sabotaging your new console's optical drive.

What? No racist cartoon to go with that post?


Only because you asked nicely.

i734.photobucket.com
 
2013-11-22 02:08:17 PM

Elegy: The issues on the xbone also seemed confined (for the moment) to a single hardware issue, rather than the gamut of issues that cropped up on the PS4.


Not sure how this matters; broke is broke. Both are going to result in a return/repair and thus the end user not having access to their console.

With that said, the real test for the  ONEwill be this weekend. Your hardcore users might stay up until midnight, skipping work/school, but the majority will be starting in about four hours (EST). Then there will be the great Christmas day cry of broken consoles ruining the holiday. Because we all know we can't rightly show thanks to the gods without a working console.

/member of the PC Master Race
//I'll pick up a console as soon as there's an exclusive worth playing
///did I miss anything? oh yeah, day one kinks, etc
 
2013-11-22 02:09:28 PM

XMark: Most likely skipping this generation of consoles (I'm one of the elite PC Gaming master race) though if it gets some great exclusives I just might grab a PS4 in a year or so.

What's really exciting me is the possible major comeback of VR starting next year with the release of the Oculus Rift. There are also a few other competitors with their own VR headsets though the Oculus guys seem to have their shiat together before anyone else.

There was kind of a false start for the whole VR idea back in the 90s. But it fizzled out because the graphics sucked, the screen resolution sucked, the headsets were bulky as hell, the frame rate sucked, the head tracking sucked, and the 3D control schemes sucked. Every single one of those issues has been resolved over the years and I think we'd all be using VR headsets already if the 90s didn't scare everyone away from the idea.

I think VR might the real next generation.

Then again, I haven't actually tried any of the upcoming VR headsets. Perhaps it's still a flawed idea and this will just be another short VR fad that dies away like the one in the 90s. I'm hoping it's here to stay though. Also, augmented reality is pretty sweet too.


I've seen where this goes though.

ecchi-ecke.de

static3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-11-22 02:11:12 PM

Elegy: gingerjet: Elegy: What I've seen so far indicates that it has been a pretty successful launch - I'm seeing less reports of failures than for the PS4 during the same period of its launch. The issues on the xbone also seemed confined (for the moment) to a single hardware issue, rather than the gamut of issues that cropped up on the PS4.

That said, I'm pretty sure the folks at Microsoft had a pretty bad night last night, after a hiccup with MS' cloud servers knocked pretty much all of their infrastructure out. For a minute there Outlook, Office365, xbox.com and XBLA all went down at the same time.

curious - which part of the Microsoft marketing department do you work for?

Curious - why do you think I'm shilling for Microsoft when I talked about the failure of pretty much their entire cloud infrastructure just hours prior to launching their console?

If you have any sauce that proves there are massive problems with the xbone release, please provide.

Otherwise, I'm calling it like I see it, and you can fark off.


Have you not noticed that Apple Fanboys have jumped on the Sony Bandwagon just because of their rabid hate for anything Ms?
 
2013-11-22 02:14:16 PM

hammer85: Surool: hammer85: I notice a distinct lack of frepnog in this thread.  Unsurprising.

Now who will explain to us that XBone failures don't matter, but PS4 failures count twice as much? Who else is going to say less than a day's worth of XBone failures is all we get while a weeks worth of PS4 failures is the tip of the iceberg that will sink Sony?

I don't want to live in a world where this doesn't happen.


It may seem like trolling but it's kind of true. I'll break it down. For the Xbox Fanboys it's like getting a box a Crayola crayons with two crayons of the same colour. Not a big deal but goddamn it, this was supposed to be perfect after the 360 heat thing.

The Sony Fanboys are barely able to contain their combination of rage and embarrassment because their box of crayons are ALL blue and melted together. A bigger deal.  So far...
 
2013-11-22 02:15:21 PM

theflatline: Have you not noticed that Apple Fanboys have jumped on the Sony Bandwagon just because of their rabid hate for anything Ms?


Oh yes, I had noticed. Is that what is happening here?
 
2013-11-22 02:15:22 PM

ManateeGag: AdamK:
-great controller comfort
-non gimmicky premise

based on these 2, this has to be a troll.


nah i'm being completely serious, off-tv play is very good with the system and totally viable, 2nd screen has real function with games that have maps or deep menus as well as making the OS UI simpler, and the touchscreen controller + pro controller are seriously well built with easy access rechargeable batteries built in... the only cons being that the triggers have no movement, and the default battery in the touchscreen controller is very short (but upgradeable)
 
2013-11-22 02:17:48 PM

Surool: hammer85: I notice a distinct lack of frepnog in this thread.  Unsurprising.

Now who will explain to us that XBone failures don't matter, but PS4 failures count twice as much? Who else is going to say less than a day's worth of XBone failures is all we get while a weeks worth of PS4 failures is the tip of the iceberg that will sink Sony?


ha!

nah, I will say exactly what I said I would say- these failures are nothing but good news for Sony, who now have a cheaper next gen console that only fails about as much as its competitor, meaning that the failure headlines will likely cease.
 
2013-11-22 02:19:06 PM
The thing about the new consoles is that they aren't that much better than the last consoles. I mean, yeah, the hardware is way more powerful and everything, but the graphics aren't all that much better. We've hit a plateau, graphically, especially since TVs are locked at 1920x1080.

Personally, I would like to see MS and Sony just keep supporting the Xbox 360 and the PS3. Make them cheap, keep them going forever. I mean, why not?
 
2013-11-22 02:20:29 PM

Decillion: hammer85: Surool: hammer85: I notice a distinct lack of frepnog in this thread.  Unsurprising.

Now who will explain to us that XBone failures don't matter, but PS4 failures count twice as much? Who else is going to say less than a day's worth of XBone failures is all we get while a weeks worth of PS4 failures is the tip of the iceberg that will sink Sony?

I don't want to live in a world where this doesn't happen.

It may seem like trolling but it's kind of true. I'll break it down. For the Xbox Fanboys it's like getting a box a Crayola crayons with two crayons of the same colour. Not a big deal but goddamn it, this was supposed to be perfect after the 360 heat thing.

The Sony Fanboys are barely able to contain their combination of rage and embarrassment because their box of crayons are ALL blue and melted together. A bigger deal.  So far...


heh.  i like you.

/to me, a DOA disc drive is no better than a DOA console.  This disc drive issue keeps the two on a level playing field, as much as they can be while one is 100 bucks cheaper.
 
2013-11-22 02:20:40 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Meanwhile PC gaming laughs at your little toys


And can easily buy and swap out a Rom Drive if it ever makes that noise.

/haz a ps4, not getting an XboxOne
//no problems with my launch PS4
 
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