John Buck 41: Magnanimous_J: mbillips: Jack Ruby wasn't a mobster. He was semi-connected to mobsters, but he was basically a small-time club owner. He was also a cop groupie who was ALWAYS hanging around at the Dallas PD (and security back then was way more informal than it is now), and he was an unstable hothead who worshipped Kennedy and routinely carried a pistol. It's a matter of established fact that he could not have known when Oswald was being transferred, and that Ruby arrived almost precisely when Oswald was coming out two hours later than scheduled. It would have been impossible to set that up other than coincidentally. Ruby was dropping off dry cleaning (they have the timed receipt), and just popped in on an impulse. Unfortunately for Oswald, the timing was perfect for what happened.I'm not disputing any of that. The way I read it, Jack Ruby was a total wannabe. But the mobsters that he was loosely connected to were the same mobsters that the Kennedy family made their fortune with in bootlegging days. They also lost huge money when Castro kicked all the mob run casinos off Cuba and the same mobsters that the CIA worked with to try and kill Castro.So you've got this interconnected cast of players that include the mafia, the Soviets, the CIA, the military industrial complex, militant conservatives, an ambitious and mildly deranged vice president and all these other groups; none of whom are uncomfortable with public assassinations. Then you've got Oswald, some hapless serial loser who goes on this charmed tour of the world, comes back and is in precisely the right place at the right time with a rifle and shoots JFK. He's arrested and processed under weird circumstances and then the most notorious man in the world gets popped at random by a wannabe gangster who was dropping off laundry.I'm not saying I have a theory, but with all these sharks in the water, I find it hard to believe that the seal was eaten by a clown fish.You and me both. Oswald may have been the lone shooter, but I'll never be convinced he acted alone.
dittybopper: 1) [...]Why was the low-achieving, nondescript Oswald assigned to such a top secret and important base?Because even bases like that need nondescript privates to watch radar scopes, which is what Oswald did.
trappedspirit: Who among us doesn't daily bring a weapon into work on the off chance that a presidential motorcade will be rerouted to pass close enough for a shot?
Magorn: And was a nephew of a bookie for the New Orleans Mob which just happened to be run by Carlos Marcello who had a pretty big Grudge against JFK and RFK for getting him deported and nearly mugged and murdered in Guatemala
UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fano: Cat's paw, not monkey's paw.Cat, monkey, what's the difference? They're all canines. :)
bullsballs: This...The President is a media personality selected by the real rulers. They make it look like there's an election and that Americans pick their leaders, but the truth is that the President is chosen for his ability to perform and distract. He's one part actor, one part monkey's paw, and one part scapegoat.The real rulers are the plutocrats and robber barons. They've always been in charge. They've always made the rules. They've always let you believe you have a choice when it comes to who leads you.You don't.Kennedy was a monkey's paw that had outlived his usefulness, and so he was dramatically and very publicly killed. It sent a message, fixed whatever problem they needed to fix, and opened them up to having a guy in there who was more willing to play his role and dance to their tune.That is why corporations are able to contribute to the buying of the office of president.
Resident Muslim: Theoretical question:If, IF, it was an inside job...who has the authority to sanction this?Isn't the president supposed to be the top of the pyramid?
Sticky Hands: TheShavingofOccam123: Well, he did have the sense to meet with E. Howard Hunt at the US Embassy in Mexico just before JFK was shot.It's a little disconcerting, if you think the Bush family had something to do with JFK's murder, to realize:1. JFK murdered2. next president one term3. next president forced to resign4. next president mentally ill5. Bush3 out, 1 never there, then Bush.KennedyJohnsonNixonFordCarterReganBush
mutterfark: I thought it was, after all, you and me?
Conspiracy: R.I.P., Kennedy[pbs.twimg.com image 400x500]
dittybopper: HotWingConspiracy: GORDON: None of this matters, tea baggers killed Kennedy i was toldThey were called John Birchers then.Except that it was actually a commie, a real, honest-to-goodness defected to the Soviet Union, and would have gone to Cuba if he could communist who, prior to assassinating the president responsible for the Bay of Pigs and Cuban blockade, had tried and failed to assassinate a right-wing retired US Army general.He was the antithesis of a John Bircher.
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