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(CounterPunch)   How NJ governor Chris Christie is stealing the Democratic nomination for president from Hillary Clinton   ( divider line
    More: Interesting, Chris Christie, Governor Chris Christie, humans, New Jersey, U.S. presidential, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew, Quinnipiac Poll, Conservative Democrat  
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1254 clicks; posted to Politics » on 22 Nov 2013 at 7:19 AM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2013-11-22 09:21:04 AM  
2 votes:
Just show a montage of Christie screaming and shouting at women (because he seems to like to do that a lot) and call him a mysogynist. He loses a huge block of voters right there. The  guy can be a real dick. There is  no way this guy wins nationally.

Also, I hate it that any politician who happens to be in office during a disaster or tragedy, and just does their job is suddenly given hero stature. It's not like Christie went and pulled babies from a burning building during Sandy.
2013-11-22 07:48:42 AM  
2 votes:
Hillary is too old. She would be one year younger than Reagan. Not going to happen.

Christie is too New Jersey.
2013-11-22 10:07:45 AM  
1 vote:

Wendy's Chili: I don't know why people think it's unlikely that Christie would win a primary. He's more conservative than Romney or McCain and knows how to work the media a hell of a lot better.

I think he's the only guy who will make it through the primaries. Christie seems to enjoy being an aggressive asshole, and Republicans respect the hell out of assholes.
2013-11-22 09:30:55 AM  
1 vote:

BMFPitt: In 2007 I said Hillary can't win, won't get the nomination, and Obama will. And they all called me crazy.

Once again, Hillary can't win, won't get the nomination, but that has nothing to do with Christie. Warren is the next President.

Well why didn't you just say so? Hey everyone good news it looks like we don't need to hold an election after all, this guy knows who is going to be the next president. He guessed Obama would win and everything!
2013-11-22 09:07:26 AM  
1 vote:
In all honesty, I don't think that Hillary is going to be the Democratic nominee, nor even run.

Take that back, she might.

As a strategic move, for the DNC, having Hillary in the Primaries does make some sense, in that it will distract a fair amount of RNC resources to tear at her, to strategize on how to counter her in the general election, and it will mean that their friendly publishing interests and think tanks will expend a LOT column inches, as well as kill a lot trees to put out books that will seek to undermine her, and with about the same effect as the last go around, in that the actual nominee will get through relatively unscathed, and without the research needed to wage an effective campaign against them. The problem is, Hillary on the ticket for the general election will also motivate a LOT of folks who have a bug up their butts about her, and have had one for her for nearly a generation, and that will mean a LOT of campaign contributions to fight against her. Which will empty some coffers to support OTHER races as well. Hillary is a strategic weapon for the DNC, not a tactical one, and while I can see the DNC wanting to see resources taken from Senate and House races, I can't see them wanting to lose the White House. And Hillary is smart enough to realize this, and I think at this point, she has a thick enough skin to understand this.

I don't see Hillary as the nominee. That the last go around, one of her loudest "supporters" for a slot in the general election was Astroturf from the GOP says how much that the Republicans want to trounce her. They want her in the general election, because they are fairly certain that they can beat her. Which is sort of like a boxer who wants to wale on a palooka who is past his prime, just to say that he beat him, as opposed to actually getting a real title shot. It's not exactly sporting. It shows the Rove methodology to winning elections at any cost, and his proteges are strong within the Republican framework at this point, and the Democrats are learning how to counter these folks--not in all areas, certainly not in all districts--at least on a national level. The only folks who really want to see Hillary run, are folks within the Republican leadership. They've been slavering at the idea of beating her, and beating her badly, for so long, that they've been walking around with a rage boner the size of New Jersey for 20 years, hoping to expend it on the corpse of her campaign, and I don't think that Hillary is going to give them the satisfaction.
2013-11-22 09:01:16 AM  
1 vote:

bluenovaman: He can thank GWB for not getting my vote. After that crazy mess the Dems could run just about anybody as far as I'm concerned. GWB, changed this formerly solid Republican voter to a voter who will never vote R again. Ds don't have my vote automatically, but Rs will never get it.

This. I was a republican for 20 years until the derp just got so sickeningly thick that I couldn't even justify being a moderate republican any more, and registered as an independent.

It's sad because I think Christie would be a great pick... but the power I'd be giving the republican party I just can't stomach in good conscience.
2013-11-22 08:30:58 AM  
1 vote:

quatchi: The Larch: Who's going to run for the Republicans in 2016? So far, I've heard:

Ted Cruz
Paul Ryan
Rick Santorum
Chris Christie
Scott Walker

And, still possible, but unlikely

Bobby Jindal
Marco Rubio
Rick Perry

Who I missing?

Jeb Bush.


2013-11-22 08:26:50 AM  
1 vote:

Doctor Funkenstein: It's amazing that the fact he was civil to President Obama one time will be the biggest thorn in his side in the primaries.

And the biggest reasons people see him as a great moderate republican.

People are too star struck that a republican DIDN'T act like a temper tantruming self destructive moron in one situation.
2013-11-22 08:00:05 AM  
1 vote:
It's amazing that the fact he was civil to President Obama one time will be the biggest thorn in his side in the primaries.
2013-11-22 07:51:09 AM  
1 vote:

foo monkey: Hillary is too old. She would be one year younger than Reagan. Not going to happen.

Christie is too New Jersey.

I'm not opposed to Christie, but I don't think he'll carry the south and midwest during a GOP primary.

As for Hillary, I'm really hoping she doesn't run. We need new blood at this point.
2013-11-22 07:48:44 AM  
1 vote:

quatchi: *reads headline*

Chris Christie is gonna run as a Dem and beat out Hills to win the nom nod?

Wow, this *is*  news, Subby!

*reads article*

Ohhhhh. He's ahead of Hills by one point in a Qpac poll taken 3 years out.

Two things here.

First, Christie is gonna hafta survive the GOP nomination process and that's not a given by any stretch of the imagination.

Second, if Christie does win the GOP nom he'll have to have herped enuff TP derp to get there and that will make him less appealing to independents and centrists than now.

Also 3 years out polls predicted something like Giuliani vs Clinton for 2008, and that we would have President Giuliani in power now (presumably re-election), so it seems kinda pointless to pay any attention to them given the track record.
2013-11-22 07:33:52 AM  
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