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(The New York Times)   Canine rat-hunting Manhattan meetups on the rise; Segways to be used for equestrian version of the hunt   (nytimes.com) divider line 56
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2013-11-22 11:11:45 AM
Rat Terriers doing what they were bred to do, ridding the city of a disease-ridden rodent. I'm sure even PETA can't find fault with this.

PETA Spokesman Martin Mersereau called rat hunting in New York "a twisted blood sport masquerading as rodent control."

Nevermind.
 
2013-11-22 11:13:45 AM
So people are training dogs to go after politicians
 
2013-11-22 11:19:37 AM
Sounds suspiciously hipstery.
 
2013-11-22 11:21:43 AM

drjekel_mrhyde: So people are training dogs to go after politicians


Amongst other things

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2013-11-22 11:23:12 AM
From TFA: "This type of activity exposes dogs to the "likelihood of eventual toxic exposure... Hunting rats does pose risks, since they are known to carry diseases, including leptospirosis, a bacterial disease that often affects animals..."

Your dog wants steak a new owner.
 
2013-11-22 11:24:16 AM
I have barn cats for this.
 
2013-11-22 11:24:55 AM

Polish Hussar: drjekel_mrhyde: So people are training dogs to go after politicians

Amongst other things

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Well, it was ambitious but rubbish.
 
2013-11-22 11:25:13 AM
The Great Rat Massacre
 
2013-11-22 11:28:24 AM

hammettman: From TFA: "This type of activity exposes dogs to the "likelihood of eventual toxic exposure... Hunting rats does pose risks, since they are known to carry diseases, including leptospirosis, a bacterial disease that often affects animals..."

Your dog wants steak a new owner.


This, which is why we get nervous when our cats find mice in the house and kill them before we even see the darn things.

/they once left a dead one next to my husband's head while he was sleeping
 
2013-11-22 11:31:45 AM

Clemkadidlefark: I have barn cats for this.


Not a lot of farmland in Manhattan the last time I checked.

/not sure how I feel about the practice, but the rat problem in NYC needs to actually be addressed; ignoring it for 100+ years hasn't helped things
 
2013-11-22 11:34:00 AM

TheSelphie: hammettman: From TFA: "This type of activity exposes dogs to the "likelihood of eventual toxic exposure... Hunting rats does pose risks, since they are known to carry diseases, including leptospirosis, a bacterial disease that often affects animals..."

Your dog wants steak a new owner.

This, which is why we get nervous when our cats find mice in the house and kill them before we even see the darn things.

/they once left a dead one next to my husband's head while he was sleeping


Wow.  I'm sure that was a wake up better than coffee
 
2013-11-22 11:38:04 AM

meathome: Clemkadidlefark: I have barn cats for this.

Not a lot of farmland in Manhattan the last time I checked.

/not sure how I feel about the practice, but the rat problem in NYC needs to actually be addressed; ignoring it for 100+ years hasn't helped things


So what you're saying is we fly in several thousand barn cats.  Then we fly in several thousand gorillas that eat the barn cats.  And when winter rolls around, all the gorillas die?

Brilliant!
 
2013-11-22 11:40:13 AM

TheSelphie: /they once left a dead one next to my husband's head while he was sleeping


They do that out of love. I grew up with loving gifts from the cat on occasion. I also grew up trying to the stuff she brought inside still alive so she could enjoy the hunt with the air conditioning back outside.

The birds were the funniest. She'd lie in plain view on the railing below the birdfeeder, where seed landed when birds spilled it. Despite the cat lying there in plain view, every so often, a bird would fly down for the dropped seed. It ended predictably- Darwin shooting fish in a barrel.

She's 18, and while in good health, retired from hunting now. But she still sits outside and watches the birds and chipmunks very closely.
 
2013-11-22 11:43:14 AM
Isn't this identical to fox hunting -- just with "foxes" that are less cute?
 
2013-11-22 11:46:13 AM

meathome: Clemkadidlefark: I have barn cats for this.

Not a lot of farmland in Manhattan the last time I checked.

/not sure how I feel about the practice, but the rat problem in NYC needs to actually be addressed; ignoring it for 100+ years hasn't helped things



Rat poison?
 
2013-11-22 11:55:56 AM

FullMetalPanda: meathome: Clemkadidlefark: I have barn cats for this.

Not a lot of farmland in Manhattan the last time I checked.

/not sure how I feel about the practice, but the rat problem in NYC needs to actually be addressed; ignoring it for 100+ years hasn't helped things

So what you're saying is we fly in several thousand barn cats.  Then we fly in several thousand gorillas that eat the barn cats.  And when winter rolls around, all the gorillas die?

Brilliant!


Or you know, just bring in a bunch of cats and let 'em go at it, it's not like alley cats have never thrived in cities before. But then people start yapping about how awful feral cats are, and blah blah blah.
 
2013-11-22 11:56:29 AM
And foxes everywhere laughed cuz they are cute
 
2013-11-22 11:57:30 AM

jshine: Isn't this identical to fox hunting -- just with "foxes" that are less cute?


Pretty much. Less picturesque settings as well.
 
2013-11-22 11:58:48 AM
Where have I heard of this kind of thing before? Oh, yeah...

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-11-22 12:00:22 PM

TheSelphie: hammettman: From TFA: "This type of activity exposes dogs to the "likelihood of eventual toxic exposure... Hunting rats does pose risks, since they are known to carry diseases, including leptospirosis, a bacterial disease that often affects animals..."

Your dog wants steak a new owner.

This, which is why we get nervous when our cats find mice in the house and kill them before we even see the darn things.

/they once left a dead one next to my husband's head while he was sleeping


That is *hilarious*. I can just imagine your cats waiting silently for him to wake up and then rolling over laughing at his hysteria.

/cats are awesome.... dicks sometimes, but awesome.
 
2013-11-22 12:02:29 PM
Release the Hounds!
 
2013-11-22 12:02:34 PM
I can't say I'd have a problem with this if people in my neighborhood wanted to do it. As long as they disposed of the rats. I recently moved from the spacious suburb where I grew up to a town that is much more densely populated, and apparently that comes with rats.

I lived in the house more than a year before I really noticed them, but this summer I kept finding some of my tomatoes pulled off the vine and chewed on (that could have been squirrels, to be fair). Twice I've found dead rats in my yard (poisoned). There's definitely a rat hole under my next door neighbor's shed, and she puts traps out to try and take care of them.

All part of the fun of my neighborhood I guess!
 
2013-11-22 12:04:56 PM

Bslim: Sounds suspiciously hipstery.


TFA: He was wearing a tweed cap and gripping a spike-tipped walking stick...
 
2013-11-22 12:08:50 PM

FullMetalPanda: meathome: Clemkadidlefark: I have barn cats for this.

Not a lot of farmland in Manhattan the last time I checked.

/not sure how I feel about the practice, but the rat problem in NYC needs to actually be addressed; ignoring it for 100+ years hasn't helped things

So what you're saying is we fly in several thousand barn cats.  Then we fly in several thousand gorillas that eat the barn cats.  And when winter rolls around, all the gorillas die?

Brilliant!


www.automizeit.com
 
2013-11-22 12:10:52 PM

hammettman: TheSelphie: hammettman: From TFA: "This type of activity exposes dogs to the "likelihood of eventual toxic exposure... Hunting rats does pose risks, since they are known to carry diseases, including leptospirosis, a bacterial disease that often affects animals..."

Your dog wants steak a new owner.

This, which is why we get nervous when our cats find mice in the house and kill them before we even see the darn things.

/they once left a dead one next to my husband's head while he was sleeping

Wow.  I'm sure that was a wake up better than coffee


He didn't even notice until he got up and I pointed it out...  I got a great laugh/WTF out of it though.
 
2013-11-22 12:11:11 PM

meathome: Clemkadidlefark: I have barn cats for this.

Not a lot of farmland in Manhattan the last time I checked.

/not sure how I feel about the practice, but the rat problem in NYC needs to actually be addressed; ignoring it for 100+ years hasn't helped things



I filmed this a few years ago in the Bronx:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tcJce9uWrY

/they since removed brush at that train station, rats are gone
 
2013-11-22 12:24:45 PM
My money's still on the rats.
 
2013-11-22 12:31:07 PM
Why not do like Cairo Egypt, and nurture an urban weasel population?
www.thenational.ae
 
2013-11-22 12:38:38 PM

zvoidx: meathome: Clemkadidlefark: I have barn cats for this.

Not a lot of farmland in Manhattan the last time I checked.

/not sure how I feel about the practice, but the rat problem in NYC needs to actually be addressed; ignoring it for 100+ years hasn't helped things


I filmed this a few years ago in the Bronx:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tcJce9uWrY

/they since removed brush at that train station, rats are gone


Brooklynites still pile your trash out on the curb in whatever bag is available?
 
2013-11-22 12:41:16 PM
I saw this article this morning.  My dogs would LOVE to do this!  Both are terriers, and I know they'd take to it like a duck to water, (or a terrier to a rat) but I would worry about them getting sick from biting into rats--God knows what NYC rats get into.
 
2013-11-22 12:43:21 PM
From TFA: "This type of activity exposes dogs to the "likelihood of eventual toxic exposure... Hunting rats does pose risks, since they are known to carry diseases, including leptospirosis, a bacterial disease that often affects animals..."

this bores me.  it's just a dog.  let them hunt rats.  if they get poisoned, big whoop.  it probably won't be enough to do any harm.  they don't hunt frequently enough to build up a dangerous level of poison.  and, what if the most horrible thing happens?  get another dog.  it's not like there is a shortage of dogs.
 
2013-11-22 12:48:16 PM
I have an elderly beagle and we go on "bunny hunts"....she sniffs, howls, gives chase if she catches sight....but she will never catch an adult.

The point is, she gets great exercise and gets to work that beagle nose (plus her dreams that night always involve a lot of chuffing, running and muffled howls)...

Letting a dog do their thing (in a responsible way) is just part of being a good owner.
 
2013-11-22 12:48:33 PM
In London, the poor hunt rats, the rich hunt urban foxes.

They had to give up the hounds and horses, though. It wasn't worth the trouble.

On the other hand, it's handy for spectators because you can hire a London cabbie to follow the hunt.
 
2013-11-22 12:48:58 PM

TheSelphie: /they once left a dead one next to my husband's head while he was sleeping


Classic feline death threat. Be afraid, be very afraid.
 
2013-11-22 12:53:02 PM
Just kidding.

The rich hunt foxes and the anti-fox hunt poor hunt and club the rich.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/aug/06/urban-fox-hunt-chris-at ki ns
 
2013-11-22 01:01:13 PM
Fresh ratburgers. Sounds good.
 
2013-11-22 01:01:46 PM
Here's a word for you, Mr. Tweedcap: "epizootic".
 
2013-11-22 01:03:18 PM

HailRobonia: TheSelphie: /they once left a dead one next to my husband's head while he was sleeping

Classic feline death threat. Be afraid, be very afraid.


Other threats have included biting his hair while he's sleeping to wake him up for food... and he is developing male-pattern baldness.  They hardly ever do that to me (and I have plenty of hair); it's like they know it's his weakness...
 
2013-11-22 01:09:08 PM

jshine: Isn't this identical to fox hunting -- just with "foxes" that are less cute?


That, and jumping the hedges is a bit more challenging.
 
2013-11-22 01:19:28 PM
As to the dogs maybe getting poisoned, I had an exterminator tell me a couple weeks ago that most dog treats contain a vitamin (K1, I think?) that acts as an antidote to rat poison. So just bring some Milk Bones along for a post-rathunt treat.
 
2013-11-22 01:22:46 PM
This is a great idea. If you've got a terrier, you know that they were bred for just this purpose, I mean even those silly little Yorkshire Terriers can kill dozens of rats at a time. So let them do their thing, while keeping down the rat population. Make sure the dogs are up-to-date on their shots, though. And I'm sure the bleeding heart libtards would stop objecting to this the second one of their precious purse dogs was attacked by a rat and died from some horrible disease.
 
2013-11-22 01:24:30 PM

Clemkadidlefark: I have barn cats for this.


I've watched a cat wait for a New York rat to get out of a dumpster before going in.  The rat had to have a 2 to 1 weight advantage.  I think a Jack Russell would be fighting above his weight class.
 
2013-11-22 01:42:38 PM
This is relevant to my rat terrier's interests. Unfortunately we seem to only have raccoons and possums.
 
2013-11-22 01:45:33 PM
watching our 210lbs mastiff lurch at squirrels and bunnies is fun
because that's it..the lurch
when he pops the collar off he just patiently waits
 looking at us to put the thing back on
 
2013-11-22 01:47:52 PM

SwiftFox: Why not do like Cairo Egypt, and nurture an urban weasel population?


This ends with the gorillas dieing at the first frost doesnt it?
 
2013-11-22 01:54:23 PM
Gorillas don't die from frost. The die from falling of tall buildings. Read the literature.
 
2013-11-22 02:01:49 PM
I like this dog-pack concept a lot better than the "urban fly fishing" that used to occur in a Baltimore bar.  Anglers would go into the alley behind the bar, bait a hook with chicken, then use a fly rod to cast toward neighboring garbage cans. Once a rat was hooked, it was reeled in, then dispatched by a "ghillie" equipped with a crab net and a (riot length) police night stick.
/patrons typically did not wear Harris tweed.
 
2013-11-22 02:04:50 PM

Schmerd1948: Gorillas don't die from frost. The die from falling of tall buildings. Read the literature.


Nope. Twas beauty that killed the beast.
 
2013-11-22 02:26:51 PM
My jack russell has gotten a few field mice out of the rock walls around my yard. She was ready to go to ground after a wood chuck once, but I got real nervous and called her back. I've seen that out in the midwest they let their dogs go down the hole, but they carry shovels just in case. You can't dig more than 10" deep in my yard without hitting rock (usually very big rock) and the wife would not be happy if I lost the dog.
 
2013-11-22 02:30:00 PM

petec: My jack russell has gotten a few field mice out of the rock walls around my yard. She was ready to go to ground after a wood chuck once, but I got real nervous and called her back. I've seen that out in the midwest they let their dogs go down the hole, but they carry shovels just in case. You can't dig more than 10" deep in my yard without hitting rock (usually very big rock) and the wife would not be happy if I lost the dog.


Thats why they have those little teapot tails, to yank them out of holes.
 
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