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(Orlando Sentinel)   November 22nd, 1963: One man's rash actions and delusions resulted in an irreversible change to the American mindset, drastically changing lives for the worse and destroying innocence. That's right; Walt Disney had the idea to build Disney World   (orlandosentinel.com) divider line 55
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2013-11-22 02:48:11 AM  
Nor was it as famous as Cocoa Beach, where you could watch buff young men ride the ocean on surfboards or look skyward and see how smart young men were sending flaming rockets headlong into the New Frontier.

Maybe the gayest sentence I've ever read.

/not that there's anything wrong with that
 
2013-11-22 04:46:03 AM  
I love DisneyWorld.

/theme park junkie
 
2013-11-22 04:55:21 AM  

labman: I love DisneyWorld.


Me too. Just got back, already planning April trip. 6 days at Riverside, 4 days on the Disney Magic.

How did they narrow down Walt Disney's idea to build Disney World to a single, specific day? I doubt he woke up one morning and a light bulb suddenly went on above his head.
 
2013-11-22 05:06:28 AM  
Well, what do you know?! It's a small world!


After all.


It's a small world.


After all.
 
2013-11-22 05:08:59 AM  
That article had a lot of words.
 
2013-11-22 05:15:13 AM  
Not enough hookers and black jack.
 
2013-11-22 05:25:35 AM  
Im a disney junkie. I worked at Disneyland (cali) for 6 years... and im planning my first disneyworld vacation for 2 years from now. I want my daughter to be old enough (and tall enough) to properly enjoy it.

I cry when i think about visiting Disneyworld.
/dreams really do come true (if you're overly emotional about a mouse)
 
2013-11-22 05:27:39 AM  
I liked Disney World. It's spotlessly clean, fun for kids, massive and highly memorable. Yes it is also a money grubbing cash grab but there are ways and means to avoid the worst of it. IMO Universal is far, far worse, particularly in how they charge a fortune for fast pass tickets
 
2013-11-22 05:28:58 AM  

Public Savant: Not enough hookers and black jack.


Correction: Not enough blackjack and liquor.

Yeah, yeah I know there's one place there you can get liquor...but it's all but impossible to get into. And if I'm going to be tortured by Florida weather, lines longer than the list of Tommy Lee's STDs, and all the farking kids, I'm going to need liquor in abundance, and it had better be easily accessible.
 
2013-11-22 05:45:25 AM  
I know Disneyland so well I could navigate it blindfolded. I love Disney. California Adventure was kinda meh.
 
2013-11-22 06:03:07 AM  

SecretAgentWoman: That article had a lot of words.


Just checking to see if anyone else noticed that the article was poorly written.
 
2013-11-22 06:04:00 AM  
Ask not what the Entertainment Industry can do for you - ask what you can spend for your Entertainment Industry.
 
2013-11-22 06:26:54 AM  
Is it coincidence that this anniversary coincides with the 50th anniversary of Doctor Who??
 
2013-11-22 06:27:14 AM  
FTA:  They even probably have heard about the city's high-tech industry (sort of - it's actually been there awhile if you count the Lockheed Martin place at the South end of Kirkman)

 and its University of Central Florida, (yeah, I guess)

 its Orlando Magic (Uh huh)

and now its new major-league soccer franchise.(Um, no)

And I also like Disney. Orlando is a giant vacuum cleaner for your wallet, but the parks are fun. Not many AC outlets available for recharging technology, though. Spare batteries and LiPo charging packs are useful. And I realized the first time we went with kids how scary easy it would be to lose one, especially after dark.

One of my best days at EPCOT, even through it was summer and crowded, was several years ago. I was in Orlando on business, and had a weekend to myself. EPCOT at your own pace, with beer available, is pretty nice.
 
2013-11-22 06:27:37 AM  
Come to Disney World..............................BRING MONEY!!!!
 
2013-11-22 06:33:35 AM  

August11: SecretAgentWoman: That article had a lot of words.

Just checking to see if anyone else noticed that the article was poorly written.



Painful to read.
 
2013-11-22 06:59:37 AM  

drxym: I liked Disney World. It's spotlessly clean, fun for kids, massive and highly memorable. Yes it is also a money grubbing cash grab but there are ways and means to avoid the worst of it. IMO Universal is far, far worse, particularly in how they charge a fortune for fast pass tickets


<csb> I was there years ago when there was a mass migration of these tiny, tiny frogs that were breeding in any standing water source they could find. There were thousands and thousands of these things, swarming the sidewalks around all the fountains and pools. You couldn't help stepping on them. The whole place was covered in blood and frog guts. <\csb>
 
2013-11-22 07:03:01 AM  
Disney took excellent stories with good lessons and destroyed them, turning them into saccharine crap designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator, teaching no discernable lessons (unless you consider being rescued by a prince to be a lesson), and then completely farked up the copyright system for the entire world. Then, he built a monument to celebrate these accomplishments.
 
2013-11-22 07:22:45 AM  
Allow me to start the grumbles about Disneyland being better than disneyworld despite the size difference.

And universal has stepped up its game so much. I never find myself going to WDW over Universal to spend a day by choice. Can't wait for the Harry potterland expansion to be finished.
 
2013-11-22 07:36:36 AM  

ChubbyTiger: Disney took excellent stories with good lessons and destroyed them, turning them into saccharine crap designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator, teaching no discernable lessons (unless you consider being rescued by a prince to be a lesson), and then completely farked up the copyright system for the entire world. Then, he built a monument to celebrate these accomplishments.


Can't be emphasized enough. But there is still a lot of good in Walt's legacy too.
 
2013-11-22 07:45:44 AM  

fusillade762: Is it coincidence that this anniversary coincides with the 50th anniversary of Doctor Who??


The headline reminded me of that December 8 several years ago where the Queue was flooded with "On This Tragic Day in History" submissions.
 
2013-11-22 07:46:41 AM  

drxym: I liked Disney World. It's spotlessly clean, fun for kids, massive and highly memorable. Yes it is also a money grubbing cash grab but there are ways and means to avoid the worst of it. IMO Universal is far, far worse, particularly in how they charge a fortune for fast pass tickets


Just stay in the on site hotels and its included. (Not the new one that they are building now. They know too many of them would ruin the system).
 
2013-11-22 07:48:57 AM  
i just don't get why adults would go to disneyland/world
 
2013-11-22 07:50:27 AM  
As a native, born and raised in Orlando I have to say Disney World may have been the worst thing to eve happen in Florida. Orlando was a small citrus / aerospace based city in the 1960's. It was beautiful then, lots of orange groves and a population of about 35,000.

When Disney was announced ( much to the locals huge disappointment) it was the end of the Civil War all over again. Businesses flocked to an area with no infrastructure and between raping the land and paying off ( taking advantage of ) the small town politics and to be honest groups of people that had no idea how to say No we don't want or need that. 42 years later Orlando is a clusterf*rk plain and simple.

That being said, the 20 million tourist that come to Orland never SEE Orlando. The airport and all roads to Disney are east and south of the city. Most people think Orlando is a nice airport and a road to Disney. Orlando politicians cut there nose of to spite their face  in the 1990's when Orlando wanted the NFL and Major League Baseball. Disney was on board to build a magnificent facility for both sports and would have had the $$$ and political pull to get both leagues, but Orlando thought they were someone important and told Disney, we're big boys now we don't need you anymore. So Disney built more hotels, restaurants and nightclubs and in just a couple of years downtown Orlando went from a good place to go party to a ghost town.

42 years after it opened I believe it  was or had been put to a vote the citizens would have said no thanks, please go somewhere else.

So where do I live Now? Tampa.... voted the most depressing city to live in. Fark me.
 
2013-11-22 08:01:16 AM  

Lady J: i just don't get why adults would go to disneyland/world


I once new a guy who retired after 30 years in the Air Force, and the first thing his wife and he did was book a trip to Disney World. In fact I think they got jobs working in the gift shops.
 
2013-11-22 08:03:01 AM  

verbaltoxin: Lady J: i just don't get why adults would go to disneyland/world

I once new a guy who retired after 30 years in the Air Force, and the first thing his wife and he did was book a trip to Disney World. In fact I think they got jobs working in the gift shops.


paedo and paedo-enabler?
 
2013-11-22 08:03:40 AM  

Lady J: verbaltoxin: Lady J: i just don't get why adults would go to disneyland/world

I once new a guy who retired after 30 years in the Air Force, and the first thing his wife and he did was book a trip to Disney World. In fact I think they got jobs working in the gift shops.

paedo and paedo-enabler?


No, but he was an odd one.
 
2013-11-22 08:10:06 AM  
Thanks for getting my hopes up subby... then I saw it was 1963 and was like "Old news is so exciting!" or something...

*sigh*
 
2013-11-22 08:13:59 AM  
It's not the same since they removed the 20,000 leagues under the sea ride...
 
2013-11-22 08:17:06 AM  

tampaflacouple: That being said, the 20 million tourist that come to Orland never SEE Orlando.


That's probably a good thing.  I lived there for 17 years, and left for a job on the Treasure Coast last year.  I don't miss it a bit. I have my suspicions that the city's traffic engineering department consists mostly of half-trained monkeys, and the city/county government seems to aspire to Chicago-level corruption.
 
2013-11-22 08:25:51 AM  
tampaflacouple:

So where do I live Now? Tampa.... voted the most depressing city to live in. Fark me.

Then you've never lived in Binghamton.
 
2013-11-22 08:46:24 AM  

Lady J: i just don't get why adults would go to disneyland/world


Because we all have a little kid still inside us.

Or, something...
 
2013-11-22 08:50:45 AM  
They said he was daft to build a castle in a swamp!
 
2013-11-22 08:56:28 AM  

Unobtanium: And I also like Disney. Orlando is a giant vacuum cleaner for your wallet, but the parks are fun. Not many AC outlets available for recharging technology, though. Spare batteries and LiPo charging packs are useful. And I realized the first time we went with kids how scary easy it would be to lose one, especially after dark.

One of my best days at EPCOT, even through it was summer and crowded, was several years ago. I was in Orlando on business, and had a weekend to myself. EPCOT at your own pace, with beer available, is pretty nice.


I think Disney's building charge stations and stuff now. I just got back a few weeks ago from my honeymoon, and there were a few charge stations here and there throughout the park.

/Also, Jambo House is awesome.
 
2013-11-22 08:59:06 AM  
They need another Disney type park in the US.

It seems though that those who have the big bucks,  like the Gates/Buffet/zuckerberg etc ain't too interested in families or 'family fun'.
 
2013-11-22 09:02:48 AM  
If I could, I would get an apartment and live inside of Epcot.  LOVE Disney World.
 
2013-11-22 09:06:40 AM  
i.imgur.com

/went there on our honeymoon
//totally farking worth it
 
2013-11-22 09:07:55 AM  

Lady J: i just don't get why adults would go to disneyland/world


It's a totally different experience when there are no kids in your party.
 
2013-11-22 09:43:57 AM  

labman: Just stay in the on site hotels and its included. (Not the new one that they are building now. They know too many of them would ruin the system).


The "system" is completely artificial - to cause the queues to be very large to incentivize people to pay a fortune to skip them. I don't know the ratio of fast to slow, but I would say from my time queueing there that so many people walked past in the other lane that our lane moved at half the speed.

Disney might bilk people in other ways but I considered their fast pass solution which did not cost any extra money to be a lot fairer.
 
2013-11-22 09:56:48 AM  

drxym: Disney might bilk people in other ways but I considered their fast pass solution which did not cost any extra money to be a lot fairer.


This.

To explain, under Disney's system, you essentially make an appointment to use a ride at some future point. This point is determined by them, depending on what time it is, how long the lines are, and how many appointments have already been made, but it's usually further ahead than if you had just waited in line to begin with. The only real advantage is that you can go do something else: wait in line for another ride (thus waiting in two lines at once), go get lunch, or something else. You can only have one appointment pending at a time, so you can't stack them up.
 
2013-11-22 10:06:07 AM  

Millennium: drxym: Disney might bilk people in other ways but I considered their fast pass solution which did not cost any extra money to be a lot fairer.

This.

To explain, under Disney's system, you essentially make an appointment to use a ride at some future point. This point is determined by them, depending on what time it is, how long the lines are, and how many appointments have already been made, but it's usually further ahead than if you had just waited in line to begin with. The only real advantage is that you can go do something else: wait in line for another ride (thus waiting in two lines at once), go get lunch, or something else. You can only have one appointment pending at a time, so you can't stack them up.


One at a time, or one every 2 hours. If you get one at 1200 for a return time of 1600, you can then get a 2nd one at 1400. If you stay on property and opt in for the MyMagic+ test, you can book 3 times for one park up to 60 days out.
 
2013-11-22 10:32:28 AM  

MayoSlather: Nor was it as famous as Cocoa Beach, where you could watch buff young men ride the ocean on surfboards or look skyward and see how smart young men were sending flaming rockets headlong into the New Frontier.

Maybe the gayest sentence I've ever read.

/not that there's anything wrong with that


Yeah, the only way that could be more gay would be if Bernie Taupin turned it into a song for Elton John and Lance Bass to perform as a duet.

/nttawwt either
 
2013-11-22 11:09:47 AM  

jclaggett: Millennium: drxym: Disney might bilk people in other ways but I considered their fast pass solution which did not cost any extra money to be a lot fairer.

This.

To explain, under Disney's system, you essentially make an appointment to use a ride at some future point. This point is determined by them, depending on what time it is, how long the lines are, and how many appointments have already been made, but it's usually further ahead than if you had just waited in line to begin with. The only real advantage is that you can go do something else: wait in line for another ride (thus waiting in two lines at once), go get lunch, or something else. You can only have one appointment pending at a time, so you can't stack them up.

One at a time, or one every 2 hours. If you get one at 1200 for a return time of 1600, you can then get a 2nd one at 1400. If you stay on property and opt in for the MyMagic+ test, you can book 3 times for one park up to 60 days out.


Hmm. My data's old, so I guess they've changed some stuff.
 
2013-11-22 11:18:58 AM  

Millennium: jclaggett: Millennium: drxym: Disney might bilk people in other ways but I considered their fast pass solution which did not cost any extra money to be a lot fairer.

This.

To explain, under Disney's system, you essentially make an appointment to use a ride at some future point. This point is determined by them, depending on what time it is, how long the lines are, and how many appointments have already been made, but it's usually further ahead than if you had just waited in line to begin with. The only real advantage is that you can go do something else: wait in line for another ride (thus waiting in two lines at once), go get lunch, or something else. You can only have one appointment pending at a time, so you can't stack them up.

One at a time, or one every 2 hours. If you get one at 1200 for a return time of 1600, you can then get a 2nd one at 1400. If you stay on property and opt in for the MyMagic+ test, you can book 3 times for one park up to 60 days out.

Hmm. My data's old, so I guess they've changed some stuff.


Been that way since I started there in 2006.  Well, the MyMagic+ part is new this year, but the rest has been that way for as long as I can recall.
 
2013-11-22 11:21:14 AM  

Erinvaries: Im a disney junkie. I worked at Disneyland (cali) for 6 years... and im planning my first disneyworld vacation for 2 years from now. I want my daughter to be old enough (and tall enough) to properly enjoy it.

I cry when i think about visiting Disneyworld.
/dreams really do come true (if you're overly emotional about a mouse)


Jesus.

*blinks. reads again*

Jesus
 
2013-11-22 11:25:01 AM  

Resident Muslim: Well, what do you know?! It's a small world!


After all.


It's a small world.


After all.


Fark You! Now I will be singing that all farking day!

Love Disney World! Go there as often as I can for a day or more. Love how it keeps changing depending on the time of year. Wine and Food Festival last month in Epcot was awesome. Tons of beer from all around the world. This time of year, its the Osborn Family Lights at Hollywood Studios (Still call it MGM). The Castle is also has Christmas Lights on it by now. Also, the card game they have at the Magic Kingdom is actually kinda fun to play. Heard that the game they have at Epcot is also fun.
 
2013-11-22 11:51:28 AM  

Lady J: i just don't get why adults would go to disneyland/world


Although we've been with our kid, I could imagine going back without him easily enough. Just wandering around, riding the stuff you want, generally chilling -- it would be a good time. Not that it wasn't fun when we all went together, but it would be fun in a different way.

/the coasters are just right for acrophobes like me. Exciting withbout being terrifying.
 
2013-11-22 12:24:12 PM  

pigeonstopper: August11: SecretAgentWoman: That article had a lot of words.

Just checking to see if anyone else noticed that the article was poorly written.


Painful to read.


It read like the guy said, "Well, if I try to be melodramatic, maybe nobody will notice how little research I've actually done."

/editor
 
2013-11-22 12:29:10 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Erinvaries: Im a disney junkie. I worked at Disneyland (cali) for 6 years... and im planning my first disneyworld vacation for 2 years from now. I want my daughter to be old enough (and tall enough) to properly enjoy it.

I cry when i think about visiting Disneyworld.
/dreams really do come true (if you're overly emotional about a mouse)

Jesus.

*blinks. reads again*

Jesus


well yes. Erinvaries sounds, dare I say it, a bit simple

/may regret that
 
2013-11-22 12:39:03 PM  
Exactly what I was going for.

I forget the sarcasm doesnt always come thru my voice when i type.

In anycase... they have booze at DisneyWorld. Isnt that enough?
 
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