If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Miami Herald)   Man stopped and questioned by police 258 times in four years, searched more than 100 times, and arrested 62 times for trespassing. His crime? Showing up at work and clocking in when scheduled   (miamiherald.com) divider line 68
    More: Florida, Miami Gardens, Howard Simon, drug-related crime, state crime, U.S. Department of Justice, resisting arrest  
•       •       •

30493 clicks; posted to Main » on 21 Nov 2013 at 10:34 PM (42 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



Voting Results (Smartest)
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

2013-11-21 10:59:24 PM
6 votes:
I really do wonder what would happen if a state required a psychological exam every five years for police, specifically looking for things like aggressive personality disorder and other hyper-alpha male traits, then permanently revoking their certificate to be a peace officer if they fail?

A few people from high school who I know to have gone on to be police officers were the sort of people I least wanted to see with a badge and gun.
2013-11-21 10:56:35 PM
6 votes:

cardex: Mitch Taylor's Bro: serial_crusher: Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: "...he says he has never been robbed."

A convenience store that's never been robbed? That's enough to trigger my BS detector.

Everybody knows better than to rob a drug front.

That's what I was thinking, too. Drugs or mafia money laundering front.

The owner is 36 but has owned the place for 17 years, something does not add up. My money is on drug front


Let's assume it is a drug front; shouldn't the police cite these guys with actual charges, things that would stick, in order to get them to roll on their bosses?

Seems to me, if they DID think it was a drug front, that the cops are handling the investigation pretty farking idiotically.
2013-11-21 10:51:26 PM
5 votes:
See guys, its the 99.8% of cops that abuse their powers that make the 0.2% look bad.
2013-11-22 01:48:35 AM
4 votes:
It's amusing, watching the number of people try to hate on cops while also trying to figure out how a convenience store might have existed without being robbed for all this time.

If you were this store owner and lived in this area, would YOU tell THOSE cops if your store had gotten robbed? Cuz I never would.
2013-11-21 08:16:31 PM
4 votes:

cman: If you have nothing to hide then you shouldn't biatch


"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. "

We either repeal or stop this shiat.
2013-11-21 08:09:26 PM
4 votes:
It's Florida. The cops aren't racist, they are really really, really, f*cking "I'm gonna invest all my money in gold" stupid.
2013-11-21 11:51:52 PM
3 votes:
"Nobody can justify overstepping the constitution to fight crime."

images.politico.com

Hai guyz, what's going on in this thread?
2013-11-21 11:28:03 PM
3 votes:

cardex: Mitch Taylor's Bro: serial_crusher: Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: "...he says he has never been robbed."

A convenience store that's never been robbed? That's enough to trigger my BS detector.

Everybody knows better than to rob a drug front.

That's what I was thinking, too. Drugs or mafia money laundering front.

The owner is 36 but has owned the place for 17 years, something does not add up. My money is on drug front


Yeah, there's no possibility all that he's just a really hard worker, maybe inherited the business, maybe both. Let's just assume he's a criminal.

Idiot.
2013-11-21 11:26:27 PM
3 votes:
This sounds like the store owner isn't paying a protection racket.  It's the only thing that makes sense.  Racists cops doesn't even make sense as there are plenty of black people in Miami they could hassle if that's their deal.
2013-11-21 10:16:33 PM
3 votes:
I'm just wondering if the 2 stoners that hang out out front have also been cited for loitering.

photos.wikimapia.org
2013-11-21 08:08:19 PM
3 votes:
If you have nothing to hide then you shouldn't biatch
2013-11-22 07:11:35 AM
2 votes:

Pumpernickel bread: Gotta wonder if the police don't suspect them of something else that they just can't prove and are letting their presence be known until they can. This place isn't getting extra attention from one cop, but apparently from the PD as a whole, so I think we can probably rule it being due to a couple of bigoted cops picking on some brown people.

I'm guessing the business is used as a front for money laundering.  Why else would it never have been robbed?  A convenience store in a poor neighborhood that has never been knocked over?  Come on.


You sound well off.

I have lived in a neighbourhood just like the one in TFA. Those stores do not get knocked over. The criminals know there are better pickings in rich white neighbourhoods. The only time the MIGHT (and let me stress MIGHT) get robbed are from a crackhead who happened to get ahold of a gun. If that does happen however, it's taken care of in the neighbourhood... no police needed. Criminals tend not to shiat where the eat/sleep. Typically, with those stores in those neighbourhoods, there will always be a group hanging around outside... those are the dealers, and lookouts. Coming in and out of the store are the customers and sometimes the dealers (they never deal inside the store though). If you want to eliminate the dealing around the store, all you need is one cop to make hiss presence known at random times day and night, and dealers will hang elsewhere (with less police presence). What these cops are doing is nothing short of harassing the owner, patrons, and employees of the store (probably to fulfil their being a dickhead quota as most cops working in those neighbourhoods are dickheads).
2013-11-22 04:17:14 AM
2 votes:
Fark logic:

1. We hate cops, so they can't possibly be right here
2. But everyone knows convenience stores get robbed 24/7, so the owner can't be right here
3. Cops would never just pick on somebody for "no reason", so the owner can't be right here
4. But cops always pick on people for no reason, so the cops can't be right here
5. The guy was 19 when he opened (or bought) the store so how can he be selling liquor? That can't be right?
6. But the police chief is black, why would be be targeting black people? That can't be right?

I'M SO CONFUSED IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME!!!!

Look, people, it's very simple. Cops are not black or white, they are blue. So yeah, a BLACK police chief and his BLACK (and white/Hispanic) officers would have no trouble at all targeting BLACK citizens...especially if they work for an Ayrab running a liquor store in Floriduh. And there may well be some personal animosity going on here--the store owner may have refused to give the cops coffee and donuts for free or something--who knows?

Second, the store owner is very obviously hiring local minorities and letting them hang out around his store without freaking out and calling the cops because "there is a black man in my store!" He may very well not have been robbed, at least not so severely he felt the need to report it. Small-town stores don't get robbed by locals when the owner is cool and hires the relatives of the local junkies. The employees tend to keep their relatives in line. And you can easily OWN a store that sells booze if you're underage--you just can't actually SELL it. But if an older employee does the selling, and the license is in an older person's name, it's no big deal. Given that the owner is Palestinian-Argentinan, I'm guessing the store is owned by his family.

And if you bothered to read the whole article carefully--the owner began participation in a community-oriented policing program that allowed them (the cops) to come in to area businesses and round up whoever they felt was a risk--namely, those same employees who are relatives of the local criminals. One reason why "broken windows theory" requires a close working relationship between cops and the community BEFORE they start rounding up the undesireable elements, as the guy in the article pointed out, and which the Miami Grove PD kind of forgot to do before they energetically started cleaning up the neighborhood. They kind of missed that part. The owner decided he didn't want to be part of it, and the harassment, er, cleaning up redoubled in his store.

So to sum up:

1. A convenience store might well not be robbed all the time.
2. Cops might well pick on people of color, even if they themselves are nominally black.
3. A younger Arab-American who calls himself 'the owner" is probably not the sole owner of a store.
4. Broken-windows theory only works when the community is involved.
2013-11-22 01:11:40 AM
2 votes:
As a rule I try not to give LEOs a hard time, but man these porcine jerks need to be in jail not on the street with a badge and pistol.
2013-11-22 12:51:47 AM
2 votes:
I am generally against "civil rights lawsuits" because let's face it, a lot of them (not all mind you) are just a way to get some free cash when you farked up. However, if this is true, this is not only a violation of these people's rights but definitely should be a criminal case of harassment against the cop or cops that are doing this. 

Good luck to the victims of this kind of bullshiat.
2013-11-22 12:11:51 AM
2 votes:
Good cops get to know the regulars and employees. These guys are obviously living in an "us vs them" headspace. They will only make the locals loath to go to the police with problems.
2013-11-21 11:46:49 PM
2 votes:
Live lapel cameras for all officers, protected from tampering, is very much overdue.

The tech. is here now. We just need the political will to implement it nationwide.
2013-11-21 11:28:59 PM
2 votes:

Giltric: EJ25T: Your tax dollars at work, America

Ha! Just wait until the civil suits.


funnycatwallpapers.com

The horror! If what is allegedly happening is actually happening, they deserve to get sued, fired, and prevented from holding any kind of law enforcement jobs in the future.

I would rather my tax dollars go to compensate someone who was wronged by a corrupt police force than to have that money continue to fund the department allegedly perpetrating said activities.
2013-11-21 11:27:47 PM
2 votes:

Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: "...he says he has never been robbed."

A convenience store that's never been robbed? That's enough to trigger my BS detector.


Here's the thing.  If you know all your customers you're less likely to get robbed.  Sounds like this guy has good relations with the surrounding community.  This has always been my motto when living in sketchy neighborhoods.  Get to know the guys pushing drugs on the corner.  They'll keep the assholes from breaking in to your car.
2013-11-21 11:07:41 PM
2 votes:

phrawgh: These officers are just doing the best they can to protect us. It's a thankless and dangerous job


Oh please, a roofer has a more dangerous job than a cop, look it up. And a roofer doesn't get to shoot people with impunity.
2013-11-21 11:06:53 PM
2 votes:
Its quotas and padding. The cops have quotas. They know who to shake down. People that will have a minor offense. Weed, expired license minor things. And people that are poor and un educated. People that dont really know there rights. With more arrests. Means more money means more federal funding. More federal spending. As usual it only has to do with money.
I hope they win a major lawsuit. Its just like the guys in Texas. The ones that pull over and conduct illegal seizures of property.
2013-11-21 10:50:12 PM
2 votes:
What's everyone talking about? According to the Supreme Court we live in a post-racist society.
2013-11-21 10:48:53 PM
2 votes:
One video, recorded on June 26, 2012, shows Sampson, clearly stocking coolers, being interrupted by MGPD Sgt. William Dunaske, who orders him to put his hands behind his back, and then handcuffs him, leads him out of the store and takes him to jail for trespassing.

Wow, that's pretty bad, even by corrupt cop standards.
2013-11-21 09:57:12 PM
2 votes:
He works as a clerk at the Quickstop.

 He wan't even supposed to be here today.
2013-11-21 08:32:17 PM
2 votes:

Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: "...he says he has never been robbed."

A convenience store that's never been robbed? That's enough to trigger my BS detector.


Everybody knows better than to rob a drug front.
2013-11-23 12:20:49 AM
1 votes:

Mitch Taylor's Bro: serial_crusher: Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: "...he says he has never been robbed."

A convenience store that's never been robbed? That's enough to trigger my BS detector.

Everybody knows better than to rob a drug front.

That's what I was thinking, too. Drugs or mafia money laundering front.


If it's a drug front, NO WAY does the guy file suit.
2013-11-22 11:50:15 AM
1 votes:

serial_crusher: Smackledorfer: But to the concept that the police harrassment would protect them: why would this owner get special protections from the cops we have apparently established are hateful vengeful pigs out to ruin him?

I just figure if the cops are always there arresting everybody who goes near the store, the robbers will pick a different store to rob.


Given the numbers, my guess is that they weren't there nearly enough.  I mean, the one big example of jackbooted harassment was five guys escorting the sixth to the shiatter for ten minutes and then leaving. Further, the allegation isn't harassment over the full 17 years of store ownership.


I think there is more to the story (though most likely not enough to defend that many arrests that never led to convictions and that much focus on the one store). Even if the owner is a mobster with connections and is up to no good, it is still retarded for the cops to just randomly throw whatever charges they can at people in the store.
2013-11-22 11:36:07 AM
1 votes:
There's more going on than just the bad cops though... and DA or ADA should have talked to those cops a LONG time ago about why they can't do this... it took a whole lot more people complicit in these bad acts to make this policy possible, from the city council to the mayor to the DAs office... there's a whole lot of corruption going on to perpetuate this kind of ass-backwards behavior.
2013-11-22 11:08:08 AM
1 votes:

Les Comdien Masque: serial_crusher: Les Comdien Masque: Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: "...he says he has never been robbed."

A convenience store that's never been robbed? That's enough to trigger my BS detector.

False perception.

Most convenience stores are never robbed. Per FBI figures for 2011, there were 369,089 robberies reported. Of those, about 8.3% (approximately 30,634) were convenience stores. There were a total of 146,126 convenience stores operating in the U.S. at that time. Even if you spread the numbers out to one hit per store (which isn't accurate since many are targeted for repeat hits), that would still mean that approximately 4 out of 5 stores never experienced a robbery during that one year.

FTFY

Assuming a flat 1/5 chance that a given store will be robbed in a given year, the store from TFA statistically should have been robbed 3.4 times during the 17 years it's been owned by its current owner.  The police should keep staking it, because if it didn't get robbed during the 4 years they've been doing this, they're about due for a robbery next year.

Your assumption, like mine, depends on robbers pulling the names of the stores out of a hat. Most are targeted because of the suspected amount of cash on hand, the ease of escape, and the lack of security measures.

Even so, Miami Gardens reported 351 robberies in 2010 and expects that number to be 327 this year. Statistically, convenience stores account for less than 9% of all robberies so generously say that they will have 30-35 convenience store robberies per year. Now based on web searches, the city has approximately 125 convenience stores. Again, some will be targeted repeatedly for the reasons outlined above. That still leaves a significant majority untouched.

Basically we can't know how unusual this guy's claim is without speaking with all 125 store owners. Odds are that there is at least a handful that can legitimately make the claim of zero robberies over an extended period of time.


Statistics aren't supporting your argument the way you think they are.

But to the concept that the police harrassment would protect them: why would this owner get special protections from the cops we have apparently established are hateful vengeful pigs out to ruin him?
2013-11-22 10:31:52 AM
1 votes:
serial_crusher:  The police should keep staking it, because if it didn't get robbed during the 4 years they've been doing this, they're about due for a robbery next year.

They're about due for a robbery the same way that you're due to hit on those scratchers. Just keep on playing and you'll hit because you're due any time now.
2013-11-22 09:48:15 AM
1 votes:

serial_crusher: Les Comdien Masque: Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: "...he says he has never been robbed."

A convenience store that's never been robbed? That's enough to trigger my BS detector.

False perception.

Most convenience stores are never robbed. Per FBI figures for 2011, there were 369,089 robberies reported. Of those, about 8.3% (approximately 30,634) were convenience stores. There were a total of 146,126 convenience stores operating in the U.S. at that time. Even if you spread the numbers out to one hit per store (which isn't accurate since many are targeted for repeat hits), that would still mean that approximately 4 out of 5 stores never experienced a robbery during that one year.

FTFY

Assuming a flat 1/5 chance that a given store will be robbed in a given year, the store from TFA statistically should have been robbed 3.4 times during the 17 years it's been owned by its current owner.  The police should keep staking it, because if it didn't get robbed during the 4 years they've been doing this, they're about due for a robbery next year.


Your assumption, like mine, depends on robbers pulling the names of the stores out of a hat. Most are targeted because of the suspected amount of cash on hand, the ease of escape, and the lack of security measures.

Even so, Miami Gardens reported 351 robberies in 2010 and expects that number to be 327 this year. Statistically, convenience stores account for less than 9% of all robberies so generously say that they will have 30-35 convenience store robberies per year. Now based on web searches, the city has approximately 125 convenience stores. Again, some will be targeted repeatedly for the reasons outlined above. That still leaves a significant majority untouched.

Basically we can't know how unusual this guy's claim is without speaking with all 125 store owners. Odds are that there is at least a handful that can legitimately make the claim of zero robberies over an extended period of time.
2013-11-22 09:41:15 AM
1 votes:

cardex: Mitch Taylor's Bro: serial_crusher: Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: "...he says he has never been robbed."

A convenience store that's never been robbed? That's enough to trigger my BS detector.

Everybody knows better than to rob a drug front.

That's what I was thinking, too. Drugs or mafia money laundering front.

The owner is 36 but has owned the place for 17 years, something does not add up. My money is on drug front


There's no reason you can't successfully open a business at 19 if you have a little seed money. Especially one as dead easy as a convenience store. It's just that most teens aren't thinking that way unless their family are all small business owners.

Maybe his parents gave him a gift to set him up, or maybe one died and left him a small chunk.
2013-11-22 09:08:56 AM
1 votes:

Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: "...he says he has never been robbed."

A convenience store that's never been robbed? That's enough to trigger my BS detector.


False perception.

Most convenience stores are never robbed. Per FBI figures for 2011, there were 369,089 robberies reported. Of those, about 8.3% (approximately 30,634) were convenience stores. There were a total of 146,126 convenience stores operating in the U.S. at that time. Even if you spread the numbers out to one hit per store (which isn't accurate since many are targeted for repeat hits), that would still mean that approximately 4 out of 5 stores never experienced a robbery.
2013-11-22 09:02:06 AM
1 votes:

HindiDiscoMonster: Pumpernickel bread: Gotta wonder if the police don't suspect them of something else that they just can't prove and are letting their presence be known until they can. This place isn't getting extra attention from one cop, but apparently from the PD as a whole, so I think we can probably rule it being due to a couple of bigoted cops picking on some brown people.

I'm guessing the business is used as a front for money laundering.  Why else would it never have been robbed?  A convenience store in a poor neighborhood that has never been knocked over?  Come on.

You sound well off.

I have lived in a neighbourhood just like the one in TFA. Those stores do not get knocked over. The criminals know there are better pickings in rich white neighbourhoods. The only time the MIGHT (and let me stress MIGHT) get robbed are from a crackhead who happened to get ahold of a gun. If that does happen however, it's taken care of in the neighbourhood... no police needed. Criminals tend not to shiat where the eat/sleep. Typically, with those stores in those neighbourhoods, there will always be a group hanging around outside... those are the dealers, and lookouts. Coming in and out of the store are the customers and sometimes the dealers (they never deal inside the store though). If you want to eliminate the dealing around the store, all you need is one cop to make hiss presence known at random times day and night, and dealers will hang elsewhere (with less police presence). What these cops are doing is nothing short of harassing the owner, patrons, and employees of the store (probably to fulfil their being a dickhead quota as most cops working in those neighbourhoods are dickheads).


THIS, THIS THIS.

I have owned my home for the last 14 years in a neighborhood that is known in my city to be the "bad" part of town. Never once have I had any issues. As stated before, criminals don't shiat where they sleep. I'm nice with neighbors and at least cordial with the thugs. If they know you, they don't piss with ya.
2013-11-22 07:48:15 AM
1 votes:
I bet the problem would go away if the owner asked the chief to provide an off-duty officer to provide private security at the store.

The chief would "recommend" a suitable private company to hire the officers through, and the "correct" people would share the "extra work" and "administrative costs".
2013-11-22 05:12:43 AM
1 votes:

Smackledorfer: Jim_Callahan: Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: "...he says he has never been robbed."

A convenience store that's never been robbed? That's enough to trigger my BS detector.

Because the cops are always there.

Which the owner would likely be more sanguine about if they weren't always there because they were hassling his employees, harassing his customers with no probable cause, and in several cases engaging in outright extortion and sabotage.

And he's not just biatching, according to TFA he's filed two internal affairs complaints, and only resorted to videotaping everything when the response to the complaints was a 5-man squad of uniformed officers just squatting in his shop for an hour to chase his customers out.

So... no, not BS.  Dude's got enough evidence presented just with what's mentioned in TFA that if the criminals in question were anyone but cops they'd be serving hard time already, it's pretty open-and-shut there.

If they were always there chasing customers out, how does his business stay open?

If the street knows cops hate him because they so often harrass his store, all the more reason he should be getting robbed the minute they leave. The cops being the dirty pigs everyone says they are would obviously let him get robbed and do little beyond taking a statement.


There is enough meat in this story to chew on without shutting our brains off and switching to mindless hyperbolic conclusions.


The cops didn't hate him until he complained about them driving off business. They used to just hate his neighborhood. They would happily prosecute anyone who robbed the store and then take the clerk in for trespassing ten minutes later. They hate the entire region and everyone in it.
2013-11-22 03:47:05 AM
1 votes:

Pray 4 Mojo: Somewhere between the indie liquor store in the ghetto never being robbed... and the cops disdain for the owner... there's something weird going on here.

/cops are still a-holes though


The whole story seems weird, though the only motivation I see from the cops is that they are being vindictive douchebags. At some point they ought to let it go.
2013-11-22 02:20:47 AM
1 votes:
"Saleh, a native of Venezuela who is of Palestinian descent"

I think I found the problem, guys.
2013-11-22 01:50:56 AM
1 votes:
Holy crap, that's unbelievable.
2013-11-22 01:36:22 AM
1 votes:
After a news report like this, I hope some well-meaning citizens post up at the store to act as future witnesses, and to show support for the staff.
Unbelievable.
2013-11-22 01:25:09 AM
1 votes:

bunner: I have a lot to say about this, most of it terribly obvious, and frankly, I'm old enough  to remember when the preponderance of cops weren't arrogant, violent, sadistic, steroid crazed thugs and I don't think anybody born after 1988 could relate.


Pretty much this. Also if you lived in a moderate sized town or small city large enough to have a force but small enough to have personal accountability.

But I've said it before and I'll say it again: Being a cop does something to one's head. The nicest, most socially-aware person can be turned into a sadistic, arrogant thug when the uniform goes on, as the Stanford Prison Experiment proved quite handily; and then there's my own anecdotal experience. My mom tells me my own father, certainly as un-vicious and un-crazed a person as you could find, became someone totally different the five years he was a L.A. deputy sheriff.

I truly believe things have gotten WORSE over time; but it's something about the job that needs serious scrutiny and constant evaluation and adjustments to prevent this kind of thing from happening.
2013-11-22 01:19:08 AM
1 votes:

Bandito King: Is it your thesis that intimidation by police is acceptable as long as it's only for ten minutes?


And apparently if it targets people who own things at an arbitrarily unacceptable age.
2013-11-22 01:13:46 AM
1 votes:

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Jim_Callahan: Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: "...he says he has never been robbed."

A convenience store that's never been robbed? That's enough to trigger my BS detector.

Because the cops are always there.

Which the owner would likely be more sanguine about if they weren't always there because they were hassling his employees, harassing his customers with no probable cause, and in several cases engaging in outright extortion and sabotage.

And he's not just biatching, according to TFA he's filed two internal affairs complaints, and only resorted to videotaping everything when the response to the complaints was a 5-man squad of uniformed officers just squatting in his shop for an hour to chase his customers out.

So... no, not BS.  Dude's got enough evidence presented just with what's mentioned in TFA that if the criminals in question were anyone but cops they'd be serving hard time already, it's pretty open-and-shut there.

If you think about it a little bit, he's 36, he's owned this place for 17 years (as pointed out by another farker, that seems a little suspicious right there) and has NEVER BEEN ROBBED. Not, "since the police started their reign of terror." Never. Those are his words. Maybe they're hyperbole, but he's certainly not referring to the time the cops started the over-the-top harassment campaign.

Of course, since there were six officers, one went to the restroom and they left in ten minutes, I'm guessing reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.

FTFA: One evening, shortly after he had complained a second time, a squadron of six uniformed Miami Gardens police officers marched into the store, he says. They lined up, shoulder to shoulder, their arms crossed in front of them, blocking two grocery aisles.

"Can I help you?" Saleh recalls asking. It was an entire police detail, known as the department's Rapid Action Deployment (RAD) squad, whom he had come to know from their frequent arrest sweeps. One went to use the restroom, and five of them stood sil ...


Is it your thesis that intimidation by police is acceptable as long as it's only for ten minutes?
2013-11-22 12:38:46 AM
1 votes:

Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: "...he says he has never been robbed."

A convenience store that's never been robbed? That's enough to trigger my BS detector.


Because the cops are always there.

Which the owner would likely be more sanguine about if they weren't always there because they were hassling his employees, harassing his customers with no probable cause, and in several cases engaging in outright extortion and sabotage.

And he's not just biatching, according to TFA he's filed two internal affairs complaints, and only resorted to videotaping everything when the response to the complaints was a 5-man squad of uniformed officers just squatting in his shop for an hour to chase his customers out.

So... no, not BS.  Dude's got enough evidence presented just with what's mentioned in TFA that if the criminals in question were anyone but cops they'd be serving hard time already, it's pretty open-and-shut there.
2013-11-22 12:32:56 AM
1 votes:

VivianVivisect: EJ25T: tgambitg: VivianVivisect: So what's the difference between Miami and Miami Gardens?

The second has Gardens.

/and it goes to 11.

The difference between St. Louis and East St. Louis, both of which I've lived in.

/in before someone says black people

I'm in the west coast.


Miami Gardens is basically a Haitian refugee camp, only not as nice.
2013-11-22 12:16:49 AM
1 votes:

EJ25T: I would rather my tax dollars go to compensate someone who was wronged by a corrupt police force than to have that money continue to fund the department allegedly perpetrating said activities.


Odd.

I would rather have the officer be sued personally. Have to liquidate everything until he is left with whatever skills he has and maybe a pair of underwear, the money going towards the judgment. Be banned from any type of police job or position of authority. Start from scratch and have half the wages they earn garnished and put towards the judgment,  go bankrupt, turn into an alcoholic and maybe still be allowed access to a gun in case of those drunk, dark nights, alone.....
2013-11-22 12:02:34 AM
1 votes:
If you are widely hated, reviled, feared and despised and you have you draw the wagons of your fellow hated, reviled, feared and despised colleagues into a circle every day because "Everybody is wrong but us", maybe it ain't everybody else.
2013-11-21 11:55:53 PM
1 votes:
I don't think the cops are racist.  I do believe they hate anyone who is not a cop and see our Constitution as only a mild suggestion.

When a police force is this corrupt, it's a failure of leadership.  The only option is to fire everyone, including the police chief, and rebuild from the ground up.  Unfortunately, the likely outcome is a couple of weeks of paid administrative leave and further harassment of the store owner, the employees, and the customers.  He'll be out of business within a year. Probably much sooner.
2013-11-21 11:53:09 PM
1 votes:

kim jong-un: I'm still burning about an invalid parking ticket that was put on my car 8 years ago.  Took a day off work because I had to physically contest the thing...

If I was falsely arrested by police over 10 times PER YEAR?  Jesus Christ...  There would certainly be a reason to arrest me after that, and it wouldn't be for trespassing.


Wel its like the last ticket I got. By the station. Just during shift change. Asked another cop about it and he told me dont go out at certain times. And dont go to this area. We have quotas (Quotas are legal where I live) and they ticket everyone in sight. Went to fight it. And in the state I live in. Its a full jury trile. For a stupid ticket. Just paid. I know its a shake down.  There needs to be some type of lawsuit to block state and federal funding for local police departments. Thats where alot of this crazy crap comes from.
2013-11-21 11:51:02 PM
1 votes:

kombi: Prophet of Loss: Live lapel cameras for all officers, protected from tampering, is very much overdue.

The tech. is here now. We just need the political will to implement it nationwide.

Ya. I live in a small city. But all the police have cams. Almost all the police in my state have them. It should now be required.


Wait until they won't release the video, can't find it, have a dash-cam malfunction, accidentally crush the car...
2013-11-21 11:24:43 PM
1 votes:
A story about cops being around too much and people reckon the reason it's never robbed is because it's a mafia front?

Maybe it's because cops are always around?
2013-11-21 11:15:28 PM
1 votes:
"Despite his long rap sheet, Sampson, 28, has never been convicted of anything more serious than possession of marijuana."

Is that "rap sheet" include all his bullshiat arrest which means he doesn't actually have a rap sheet.
2013-11-21 11:12:11 PM
1 votes:

kombi: The problem is going to be, now when something does happen at the store. The police are going to take a very long time to show up.


You sure the cops won't be the one to cause it?
2013-11-21 11:10:57 PM
1 votes:
FTA:

"Last year, Saleh, armed with a cache of videos, filed an internal affairs complaint about the arrests at his store. From that point, he said, police officers became even more aggressive.

One evening, shortly after he had complained a second time, a squadron of six uniformed Miami Gardens police officers marched into the store, he says. They lined up, shoulder to shoulder, their arms crossed in front of them, blocking two grocery aisles.

"Can I help you?" Saleh recalls asking. It was an entire police detail, known as the department's Rapid Action Deployment (RAD) squad, whom he had come to know from their frequent arrest sweeps. One went to use the restroom, and five of them stood silently for a full 10 minutes. Then they all marched out."

WTF?

Your tax dollars at work, America. Guess they were taking Jack's advice:

"Go shake down a 7-11 for a day-old wiener"
2013-11-21 11:08:31 PM
1 votes:

Giltric: vicioushobbit: So why bother trying to defame the owner when the cops are obviously at fault?

Saleh is obviously Czechoslovakian interior decorator freelancing for AQ


You know, now that I study it out, you're right.  It was so obvious.

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Idea: Employer can issue him a company ID. But good for the boss for treating his unskilled worker like a person, not a problem.


Yeah, I really don't think they'd care about his company ID.  Except, now that he's suing them and they know they're on camera, it won't be a point anyway.
2013-11-21 11:06:44 PM
1 votes:
Idea: Employer can issue him a company ID. But good for the boss for treating his unskilled worker like a person, not a problem.
2013-11-21 11:02:58 PM
1 votes:

Giltric: vicioushobbit: Let's assume it is a drug front; shouldn't the police cite these guys with actual charges, things that would stick, in order to get them to roll on their bosses?

Seems to me, if they DID think it was a drug front, that the cops are handling the investigation pretty farking idiotically.

Nobody could get a judge to approve a warrant for a search or wiretaps in that whole time?

Well I doubt police acting like this would secure a warrant but you get the idea.


My point is that it doesn't matter if he's a drug front, because he's obviously not being investigated.  So why bother trying to defame the owner when the cops are obviously at fault?
2013-11-21 10:54:18 PM
1 votes:

Mitch Taylor's Bro: serial_crusher: Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: "...he says he has never been robbed."

A convenience store that's never been robbed? That's enough to trigger my BS detector.

Everybody knows better than to rob a drug front.

That's what I was thinking, too. Drugs or mafia money laundering front.


The owner is 36 but has owned the place for 17 years, something does not add up. My money is on drug front
2013-11-21 10:43:14 PM
1 votes:
I was ready to be all "he probably is a dick."

But this sucks. I hope that the lawsuit fairy grants him a wish.

Let the guy go to work, FFS.
2013-11-21 10:42:27 PM
1 votes:
"clocking in when scheduled..."

Well, you can rule out union workers.
2013-11-21 10:42:16 PM
1 votes:
Came for Clerks, leaving entertained but overall not feeling fulfilled.
2013-11-21 09:44:09 PM
1 votes:
The store is a small business owned by someone "of Palestinian descent".

"For 17 years, Saleh has owned 207 Quickstop. Saleh has come to know his customers by their first names, and even by their nicknames. He has watched some of them grow from toddlers into young men. He feels for them when loved ones die, and has celebrated with them when their babies were born."

Here is an example of a plan to create a frisk-friendly zone for LEO's at high-traffic businesses in poor neighborhoods.  The businesses sign on to have undesirables arrested for trespassing and removed.  Good for rounding up the homeless, easier to keep the restrooms clean that way.

"About three years ago, Saleh said police asked him to participate in what they called a "zero-tolerance" program to reduce crime. He gladly signed up, not realizing at the time how much it would impact his business and customers. Under the program, Miami Gardens police are given broad powers to stop and arrest people who appear to be loitering or trespassing at the participating business."

He later quit the program.
2013-11-21 09:30:03 PM
1 votes:
The videos show, among other things, cops stopping citizens, questioning them, aggressively searching them and arresting them for trespassing when they have permission to be on the premises; officers conducting searches of Saleh's business without search warrants or permission; using what appears to be excessive force on subjects who are clearly not resisting arrest and filing inaccurate police reports in connection with the arrests.

Other countries hate you for your freedoms.
2013-11-21 09:09:49 PM
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: cman: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: cman: Only guilty people say that

So, what are you guilty of?

You're better than that cman.

...you taking what I am saying seriously?

Please don't

I don't know, man...

/I think that one swallowed the hook


I admit it is difficult to transmit emotion through the Internet.

If I was in the same room as Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich I think my mannerisms would have told him that I was being facetious.
2013-11-21 08:53:28 PM
1 votes:

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: cman: Only guilty people say that

So, what are you guilty of?

You're better than that cman.


...you taking what I am saying seriously?

Please don't
2013-11-21 08:34:31 PM
1 votes:

serial_crusher: Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: "...he says he has never been robbed."

A convenience store that's never been robbed? That's enough to trigger my BS detector.

Everybody knows better than to rob a drug front.


That's what I was thinking, too. Drugs or mafia money laundering front.
2013-11-21 08:31:59 PM
1 votes:

cman: Only guilty people say that

So, what are you guilty of?


You're better than that cman.
2013-11-21 08:27:37 PM
1 votes:
FTFA: "...he says he has never been robbed."

A convenience store that's never been robbed? That's enough to trigger my BS detector.
 
Displayed 68 of 68 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report