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(Tech Crunch)   Microsoft in talks to buy Winamp because, well...who the hell knows, really?   (techcrunch.com) divider line 79
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2013-11-21 03:48:52 PM  
Because it really whips the llama's ass, obviously.
 
2013-11-21 03:53:53 PM  
Probably to make sure it doesn't run on anything in the future or something.
 
2013-11-21 03:55:40 PM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: Because it really whips the llama's ass, obviously.


Noo!

Damnit.. That was my comment.


/Still using 2.8

Fast, clean, functional. 0 BLOAT
 
2013-11-21 04:34:41 PM  
Dammit, I'm tired of Microsoft taking all the things I like and turning them to shiat.
 
2013-11-21 04:42:03 PM  
because Bill Gates is charitable.

I don't even understand all the llama references, I guess I slept the last 15 years or something.

I haven't installed WinAmp on any of my computers in at least 10 years either.
 
2013-11-21 04:44:34 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Dammit, I'm tired of Microsoft taking all the things I like and turning them to shiat.


Can't be that much worse than AOL taking the things you like and turning them to shiat.
 
2013-11-21 04:46:47 PM  

exick: RedPhoenix122: Dammit, I'm tired of Microsoft taking all the things I like and turning them to shiat.

Can't be that much worse than AOL taking the things you like and turning them to shiat.


But at least AOL stopped trying to "improve" stuff years ago.
 
2013-11-21 04:51:30 PM  

gfid: I don't even understand all the llama references, I guess I slept the last 15 years or something.


When you install WinAmp and open it for the first time, it plays a short clip that says "WinAmp.  It really whips the llama's ass."
 
2013-11-21 04:54:04 PM  
well, they need something help all those Zune users manage their music.
 
2013-11-21 04:56:06 PM  

The Onion is prophetic: gfid: I don't even understand all the llama references, I guess I slept the last 15 years or something.

When you install WinAmp and open it for the first time, it plays a short clip that says "WinAmp.  It really whips the llama's ass."



Did it always?  I don't remember either.  After I found VLC, I never used it again.
 
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2013-11-21 05:04:03 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Dammit, I'm tired of Microsoft taking all the things I like and turning them to shiat.


The old version should work for a while.  If not, give Audacious a shot:  http://audacious-media-player.org/

I run it on linux and windows and it's a very nice app (reminiscent of xmms, which aimed to be sort of a "winamp for linux").  Streams music via .m3u files as well!
 
2013-11-21 05:07:37 PM  

sentex: The Onion is prophetic: gfid: I don't even understand all the llama references, I guess I slept the last 15 years or something.

When you install WinAmp and open it for the first time, it plays a short clip that says "WinAmp.  It really whips the llama's ass."


Did it always?  I don't remember either.  After I found VLC, I never used it again.


Not sure about 'always,' but it's been there for quite a while.
 
2013-11-21 05:16:23 PM  
Watch, very first MS derived version it'll only play WMA & WMW files, and it won't work without the Win8 Metro interface.
 
2013-11-21 05:17:24 PM  

The Onion is prophetic: sentex: The Onion is prophetic: gfid: I don't even understand all the llama references, I guess I slept the last 15 years or something.

When you install WinAmp and open it for the first time, it plays a short clip that says "WinAmp.  It really whips the llama's ass."


Did it always?  I don't remember either.  After I found VLC, I never used it again.

Not sure about 'always,' but it's been there for quite a while.


Did you know VLC phones home and sells the info of what you watch?  You gotta firewall that shiat.  Or not.
 
2013-11-21 05:18:23 PM  
Why did Winamp whip the llama's ass? One of the greatest unsolved mysteries of our time.
 
2013-11-21 05:18:31 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Dammit, I'm tired of Microsoft taking all the things I like and turning them to shiat.


Considering Winamp is shutting down for good next month, I dare say that anything MS does with it can't be worse than complete shut down.
 
2013-11-21 05:19:30 PM  

The Onion is prophetic: sentex: The Onion is prophetic: gfid: I don't even understand all the llama references, I guess I slept the last 15 years or something.

When you install WinAmp and open it for the first time, it plays a short clip that says "WinAmp.  It really whips the llama's ass."


Did it always?  I don't remember either.  After I found VLC, I never used it again.

Not sure about 'always,' but it's been there for quite a while.


Been on there at least 14 years or so, IIRC.
 
2013-11-21 05:20:48 PM  
Wait, damnit, shoutcast is part of the winamp death too?  Damnit now I gotta learn about more modern audio streaming services, gat-dangit.
 
2013-11-21 05:23:44 PM  

lewismarktwo: Did you know VLC phones home and sells the info of what you watch?


Is that clueless derp, or intentional FUD?
 
2013-11-21 05:24:47 PM  
Because they've done such a bang up job with WMP.....
 
2013-11-21 05:28:07 PM  

Fubegra: lewismarktwo: Did you know VLC phones home and sells the info of what you watch?

Is that clueless derp, or intentional FUD?


You ever notice how the icon changes to a Santa hat around Christmas?  It phones home.  Sorry.
 
2013-11-21 05:29:03 PM  

lewismarktwo: Fubegra: lewismarktwo: Did you know VLC phones home and sells the info of what you watch?

Is that clueless derp, or intentional FUD?

You ever notice how the icon changes to a Santa hat around Christmas?  It phones home.  Sorry.


Because there's no way for a stand-alone application to figure out what day Christmas is.  Is that you're only proof?  Imma need a little more then that not to continue laughing.
 
2013-11-21 05:29:15 PM  

Fubegra: lewismarktwo: Did you know VLC phones home and sells the info of what you watch?

Is that clueless derp, or intentional FUD?


They probably didn't follow the SouceForge link and downloaded some sketchy version from a site that loaded it up with adware to get a quick buck out. Hell, even Download.com is adding in all kinds of crap to the installers.
 
2013-11-21 05:29:43 PM  
It's better than media player.
 
2013-11-21 05:30:45 PM  
I bet they turn it into an ugly, giant full screen Metro "app" with a bunch of useless bloated features no one wants.
 
2013-11-21 05:32:27 PM  

BumpInTheNight: lewismarktwo: Fubegra: lewismarktwo: Did you know VLC phones home and sells the info of what you watch?

Is that clueless derp, or intentional FUD?

You ever notice how the icon changes to a Santa hat around Christmas?  It phones home.  Sorry.

Because there's no way for a stand-alone application to figure out what day Christmas is.  Is that you're only proof?  Imma need a little more then that not to continue laughing.


I don't need to convince you for it yo be true.  I don't care what you do.  Anyway, it's a simple fix to firewall it and I use VLC everyday.
 
2013-11-21 05:33:38 PM  

Shadow Blasko: Fast, clean, functional. 0 BLOAT


Bitmapped user interface with microscopic controls that are only usable by college kids with 20/20 vision and late-'90s 15" CRTs.
 
2013-11-21 05:38:01 PM  
I remember trying to decide between WinAmp and Musicmatch Jukebox, to play all the Mic In Track files I got off Napster.

I vaguely recall being amused when an updated version had the "kicks the llama's ass" thing included.  It was funny the first couple times.
 
2013-11-21 05:38:27 PM  

poot_rootbeer: Shadow Blasko: Fast, clean, functional. 0 BLOAT

Bitmapped user interface with microscopic controls that are only usable by college kids with 20/20 vision and late-'90s 15" CRTs.


Protip: There is an option to double up the pixels to make the interface bigger.
 
2013-11-21 05:40:50 PM  

lewismarktwo: BumpInTheNight: lewismarktwo: Fubegra: lewismarktwo: Did you know VLC phones home and sells the info of what you watch?

Is that clueless derp, or intentional FUD?

You ever notice how the icon changes to a Santa hat around Christmas?  It phones home.  Sorry.

Because there's no way for a stand-alone application to figure out what day Christmas is.  Is that you're only proof?  Imma need a little more then that not to continue laughing.

I don't need to convince you for it yo be true.  I don't care what you do.  Anyway, it's a simple fix to firewall it and I use VLC everyday.


so you also don't let it grab updates....oh yah that's a winning combo right there.
 
2013-11-21 05:44:07 PM  

The Onion is prophetic: sentex: The Onion is prophetic: gfid: I don't even understand all the llama references, I guess I slept the last 15 years or something.

When you install WinAmp and open it for the first time, it plays a short clip that says "WinAmp.  It really whips the llama's ass."


Did it always?  I don't remember either.  After I found VLC, I never used it again.

Not sure about 'always,' but it's been there for quite a while.


I think they added that clip in WinAmp 3.0.  The older ones didn't have the clip.
 
2013-11-21 05:50:23 PM  

BumpInTheNight: lewismarktwo: BumpInTheNight: lewismarktwo: Fubegra: lewismarktwo: Did you know VLC phones home and sells the info of what you watch?

Is that clueless derp, or intentional FUD?

You ever notice how the icon changes to a Santa hat around Christmas?  It phones home.  Sorry.

Because there's no way for a stand-alone application to figure out what day Christmas is.  Is that you're only proof?  Imma need a little more then that not to continue laughing.

I don't need to convince you for it yo be true.  I don't care what you do.  Anyway, it's a simple fix to firewall it and I use VLC everyday.

so you also don't let it grab updates....oh yah that's a winning combo right there.


Why would a media player need to constantly update?  I haven't updated for years and everything still works.  If one day it does not work due to a super new awesome codec or something I can just download manually.

I bet you automatically install every update for everything.  One day you'll find out why that's a bad idea.
 
2013-11-21 05:51:41 PM  
They're probably only after Shoutcast, I doubt they care about the player. They'd probably just ruin it anyway judging from the mess that Windows Media Player is. Fortunately the final version of Winamp should work just fine for many years to come, even the original alpha version while not very useful still works in Windows 8.1, so unless Microsoft doesn't run it I'll be sticking with 5.66 from now on I guess.

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sentex: Did it always?  I don't remember either.

I don't remember when Winamp first whipped the llamas ass, but I do remember they removed it for a while after AOL bought it but they eventually put it back.
 
2013-11-21 05:52:49 PM  

degenerate-afro: The Onion is prophetic: sentex: The Onion is prophetic: gfid: I don't even understand all the llama references, I guess I slept the last 15 years or something.

When you install WinAmp and open it for the first time, it plays a short clip that says "WinAmp.  It really whips the llama's ass."


Did it always?  I don't remember either.  After I found VLC, I never used it again.

Not sure about 'always,' but it's been there for quite a while.

I think they added that clip in WinAmp 3.0.  The older ones didn't have the clip.



Thanks.  I think I remember (3.0) being a big deal back then.  Guess I had moved on.
 
2013-11-21 05:57:06 PM  

lewismarktwo: Why would a media player need to constantly update? I haven't updated for years and everything still works. If one day it does not work due to a super new awesome codec or something I can just download manually.

I bet you automatically install every update for everything. One day you'll find out why that's a bad idea.


Oh I dunno, maybe someone figures out a way to inject an exploitive payload into a media file that's targeting an unpatched vulnerability in older VLC releases such as...
https://www.google.ca/#q=vlc+exploit
and then starts seeding loaded media files on torrent sites...

I don't blindly update everything all the time, but things that I know are going to be encountering 3rd party generated data a lot (flash, java, media player via a torrented file, etc etc) get the auto update treatment.
 
2013-11-21 05:57:59 PM  
 
2013-11-21 06:01:58 PM  

degenerate-afro: I think they added that clip in WinAmp 3.0.  The older ones didn't have the clip.


Version 1.91 was the first the Whip the llama's ass
 
2013-11-21 06:20:05 PM  
Just downloaded the latest EXE for Winamp. Will wait to see what happens if MS buys it, but it can't be much worse than what AOL did with the company. AOL had one of the best if not the best music players at the time, and farked it all up. The skins for Winamp were so varied and pretty good. When Voodoo graphic cards were big, I remember I dl'ed a Winamp visual that too advantage of the Voodoo 3Dfx card. Still remember being shocked at how fluid the visual looked. So I was sad to see the Voodoo cards disappear, and I feel the same about Winamp.
 
2013-11-21 06:29:26 PM  
Does it run on iPod?
 
2013-11-21 06:55:16 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Dammit, I'm tired of Microsoft taking all the things I like and turning them to shiat.


Well at least they passed on MusicMatchBox (RIP) and we had that for a few years. Just worried that they will kill all the freeware and user add-ons in a misguided effort to rain it in to compliance.
 
2013-11-21 06:59:49 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Fubegra: lewismarktwo: Did you know VLC phones home and sells the info of what you watch?

Is that clueless derp, or intentional FUD?

They probably didn't follow the SouceForge link and downloaded some sketchy version from a site that loaded it up with adware to get a quick buck out. Hell, even Download.com is adding in all kinds of crap to the installers.


Actually, even SourceForge has gone rogue these days, to the point that GIMP has pulled their installers from them. VLC isn't using SourceForge now, either - if you go to the official site, you'll get it from a mirror site, not from SourceForge. If you go to one of the "sponsored links" in Google, all bets are off.

Regarding the assertion that "VLC phones home," there's an option to grab album art, etc., but you are asked the first time you run it whether or not you want it (I always say "no").

As for lewismarktwo and his blatantly stupid advice to never update anything, either he's trolling hard or he's got 156 different toolbars installed in his browser and is going to get CryptoLocker'd before long.
 
2013-11-21 07:05:54 PM  
I will say, Winamp does still have better plugins than any comparable media player.  There were input plugins for everything from CD audio to NES chiptunes, it was easy to route the audio through all kinds of DSPs and effects, and some of the visualizations were brilliant.
 
2013-11-21 07:09:43 PM  

UseUrHeadFred: I remember trying to decide between WinAmp and Musicmatch Jukebox, to play all the Mic In Track files I got off Napster.


MarkMartinFan: Well at least they passed on MusicMatchBox (RIP)


Okay, I'm sure I remember MusicMatch having spyware. Did some really odd things when encoding VBR, too. But that was a really long time ago.
 
2013-11-21 07:11:06 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Fubegra: lewismarktwo: Did you know VLC phones home and sells the info of what you watch?

Is that clueless derp, or intentional FUD?

They probably didn't follow the SouceForge link and downloaded some sketchy version from a site that loaded it up with adware to get a quick buck out. Hell, even Download.com is adding in all kinds of crap to the installers.


This, brand new pc, only drivers installed from USB.  No security software installed. Opened IE once, to start the Chrome download.

AVG was there with a popup somewhere, some proprietary program installed.

Still haven't figured out where it came from.

As an aside.

VLC was too twitchy for me.  If I turn on one feature, I get bug X.  If I switch renderers to avoid that, bug Y comes on and the audio clicks when I pause.

Winamp was great, though seldom used.  I use Media Player Classic for videos.  Pause mouse click, double to full screen, mouse wheel to volume.  Codec support for anything except wmv.  High def MKV to temp files(ie something streamed and taken from browser cache). No clicks, pops, malfunctions, ever.

A must have for any windows installation is some sort of communication taskbar icon like XP had.  There are several available.  You know when/if you've got something phoning home or something more dubious.
Process explorer, hijackthis, and killbox.
/that's my AV, plus smart usage, fark any program that may or may not catch what you have this week, eat up your resources, and turn it's auto scan on even though you turned it off, in the middle of a game or while masturbating to all those oddly formatted video files that you saved from a stream...
//if you care more than me, firewalls and things like noscript are great as well, also knowing your hostfile well

It's all lost on me anymore, too much to keep up on.  I pay attention, but If I get anything serious, reformatting is easy.
 
2013-11-21 07:28:19 PM  
I downloaded Winamp specifically because WMP's library wouldn't read more than 5,000 songs (I have over 10,000 now). If Microsoft were to simply replace WMP with Winamp, I'd be happy with this news.

I am unhappy because I know that Microsoft won't do anything that simple or awesome.
 
2013-11-21 07:44:11 PM  

poot_rootbeer: I will say, Winamp does still have better plugins than any comparable media player.  There were input plugins for everything from CD audio to NES chiptunes, it was easy to route the audio through all kinds of DSPs and effects, and some of the visualizations were brilliant.


Pandora and most other streaming services ignore visualizations so I use WinAmp to snag the audio output and route it through its visualization engine. Works pretty nice.
 
2013-11-21 07:47:13 PM  
Winamps EQ > All other (non-professional) software EQ's.. No other EQ added so much fideltly and punch to my music.. All the others were basically "Ok, we're going to up the treble to 12 and make everything sound flat.. fark you and your bass needing needs"
 
2013-11-21 07:57:32 PM  

EngineerAU: poot_rootbeer: I will say, Winamp does still have better plugins than any comparable media player.  There were input plugins for everything from CD audio to NES chiptunes, it was easy to route the audio through all kinds of DSPs and effects, and some of the visualizations were brilliant.

Pandora and most other streaming services ignore visualizations so I use WinAmp to snag the audio output and route it through its visualization engine. Works pretty nice.


What I'd like is Pandora or Spotify to play through Winamp
 
2013-11-21 07:57:43 PM  

Infernalist: RedPhoenix122: Dammit, I'm tired of Microsoft taking all the things I like and turning them to shiat.

Considering Winamp is shutting down for good next month, I dare say that anything MS does with it can't be worse than complete shut down.


I thought so too.  But I thought Killer Instinct was gone for good, but now it's back.  Only in a "pay-per-character" model.  And it's on a system I don't want.
 
2013-11-21 07:58:55 PM  

wee: RedPhoenix122: Dammit, I'm tired of Microsoft taking all the things I like and turning them to shiat.

The old version should work for a while.  If not, give Audacious a shot:  http://audacious-media-player.org/

I run it on linux and windows and it's a very nice app (reminiscent of xmms, which aimed to be sort of a "winamp for linux").  Streams music via .m3u files as well!


I used Amarok for awhile in Linux, but since I put in Mint instead of Ubuntu, I haven't looked into new players.  I will have to do that sometime.
 
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