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(USA Today)   25 NFL Hall of Fame finalists names released. *Looks at list* He belongs there, him too, yeah him. WTF? A kicker, a mafioso owner and Tagliabue? Did ESPN vote on this shiat?   (usatoday.com ) divider line
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2013-11-21 11:39:34 AM  
Are you kiddin me?
 
2013-11-21 12:03:49 PM  
I'm surprised Don Coryell isn't already in.
 
2013-11-21 12:15:25 PM  
...somebody doesn't like commas.
 
2013-11-21 02:36:35 PM  
No Ray Guy. Canton will once again not be able to field a full 53-man roster. Better luck next year.

/and get yourself a long snapper too
 
2013-11-21 02:37:41 PM  
...oh wait, missed Ray's unbolded name from the veteran's committee. Okay, good. Rescinding outrage.

But he better get in.
 
2013-11-21 02:39:59 PM  

Gosling: ...oh wait, missed Ray's unbolded name from the veteran's committee. Okay, good. Rescinding outrage.

But he better get in.


I was about to rage against the exclusion of Ray Guy myself, but went back and re-read this comment.
 
2013-11-21 02:47:02 PM  

buckeyebrain: Gosling: ...oh wait, missed Ray's unbolded name from the veteran's committee. Okay, good. Rescinding outrage.

But he better get in.

I was about to rage against the exclusion of Ray Guy myself, but went back and re-read this comment.


Count me in this group as well.

And how the f**k isn't Don Coryell in yet? He only f*cking invented modern offensive football.

I think they should just go with the "we're making up for it all" class. Guy, Coryell, Andersen, Jones, and Wisniewski. That's a rock solid HoF class.
 
2013-11-21 02:48:32 PM  
Of the Bucs

Brooks first ballot
Dungy maybe first ballot
Lynch will get in eventually.
 
2013-11-21 02:53:13 PM  
How is Lynch on that list and Rodney isn't?
 
2013-11-21 02:55:05 PM  
They should put a small Favre statue next to Strahan.

/I hope the punter gets in. I don't understand how the best player* at a certain position isn't in the hall of fame.

/I'm not saying he's the best ever; I don't know that. But there ought to be someone for each position.
 
2013-11-21 02:57:08 PM  

buckeyebrain: Gosling: ...oh wait, missed Ray's unbolded name from the veteran's committee. Okay, good. Rescinding outrage.

But he better get in.

I was about to rage against the exclusion of Ray Guy myself, but went back and re-read this comment.


same here.

how anyone could keep ray guy out of canton is beyond me.
 
2013-11-21 02:57:29 PM  
IN:
Strahan
Harrison
Davis
Dungy

Pick 1 more from the remaining
 
2013-11-21 02:59:09 PM  

skrame: But there ought to be someone for each position.


I understand the sentiment behind that, but if there were a hypothetical position where every single person to play it was essentially identical, it would be perfectly reasonable for no one to make the HOF (not saying that's true in this case - I haven't looked into the numbers enough)
 
2013-11-21 03:04:12 PM  
Morten Andersen belongs in the Hall. The Great Dane, as he's called, is the leading scorer in NFL history. He is also leads TWO teams in career scoring...New Orleans and Atlanta. If the guy who has put the most points on the scoreboard doesn't belong, then who does?
 
2013-11-21 03:04:44 PM  
has it really been 5 years for Dungy, Harrison, and Strahan?  Where did that time go?
 
2013-11-21 03:07:10 PM  
Hey, Morten Andersen was one hell of a kicker, and didn't he play until he was 47 or something?

Tagliabue and Eddie DeBartolo? Get the fark out of here.
 
2013-11-21 03:07:19 PM  

Lost Thought 00: I understand the sentiment behind that, but if there were a hypothetical position where every single person to play it was essentially identical, it would be perfectly reasonable for no one to make the HOF (not saying that's true in this case - I haven't looked into the numbers enough)


I'm of the mindset that, no matter the relative importance of the positions, a Hall of Fame ought to enshrine players in such a way that, after a reasonable period of time has passed, you should be able to construct an entire modern-day roster entirely out of Hall of Famers. You cannot do that with the Football Hall of Fame, because you have no punter and no long snapper. The Hall is incomplete without at least one of each.

As such, Ray Guy has taken up the position of Canton's equivalent of Ron Santo. You'll be hearing about his absence every damn year until he gets his jacket. After that, we can try and figure out who ought to fill the long-snapper spot.
 
2013-11-21 03:07:59 PM  
No-doubt HOFers: Derrick Brooks, Tim Brown, Don Coryell, Kevin Greene, Jimmy Johnson, Walter Jones and Michael Strahan.

Not feeling the love for Terrell Davis, Aeneas Williams and Steve Wisniewski.

Could go either way on the rest of 'em.
 
2013-11-21 03:11:16 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Morten Andersen belongs in the Hall. The Great Dane, as he's called, is the leading scorer in NFL history. He is also leads TWO teams in career scoring...New Orleans and Atlanta. If the guy who has put the most points on the scoreboard doesn't belong, then who does?


This is sort of my argument for Jerome Bettis.  The guy who holds the historical NFL record for most times spiking a ball and dancing after a 2 yard run in his own territory just HAS to be in the Hall.
 
2013-11-21 03:13:46 PM  

Gosling: No Ray Guy. Canton will once again not be able to field a full 53-man roster. Better luck next year.

/and get yourself a long snapper too


d2om8tvz4lgco4.cloudfront.net

This!
 
2013-11-21 03:14:24 PM  
Doh, obviously did not read the TFA!!!
 
2013-11-21 03:17:32 PM  
SUCK IT, ZOMBIE MODELL
 
2013-11-21 03:18:14 PM  
RAY GUY
RAY GUY
RAY GUY

Listen to the senior's committee and make the right choice
 
2013-11-21 03:21:08 PM  
Good to see some more Broncos on the list.  Elway was the first real Broncos player inducted (HOF safety Willie Brown played a couple of years in Denver).  It's like the coasts forgot there was a pretty good football team in the Rockies -- Atwater, Meck and Gradishar were studs in their day.

/not sure Terrell Davis has the numbers to get in
 
2013-11-21 03:22:08 PM  

Lost Thought 00: skrame: But there ought to be someone for each position.

I understand the sentiment behind that, but if there were a hypothetical position where every single person to play it was essentially identical, it would be perfectly reasonable for no one to make the HOF (not saying that's true in this case - I haven't looked into the numbers enough)


Ray Guy was the first punter taken in the first round, and there's a reason he's got 3 Super Bowl rings. Madden was coach of the Raiders at the time, and his entire coaching staff wanted Guy.

The offense knew that a punter like that would make up for their mistakes, the defense knew that he'd consistently give their opposition a long field. He invented the concept of "hang time", and in 14 years, out of 1,049 punts, exactly 4 were returned for touchdowns.

When both your offense and your defense consider the punter to be a valuable weapon in their arsenal, it's saying something.
 
2013-11-21 03:22:16 PM  
More Kickers and Punters in the Hall!
 
2013-11-21 03:26:54 PM  

Gosling: Lost Thought 00: I understand the sentiment behind that, but if there were a hypothetical position where every single person to play it was essentially identical, it would be perfectly reasonable for no one to make the HOF (not saying that's true in this case - I haven't looked into the numbers enough)

I'm of the mindset that, no matter the relative importance of the positions, a Hall of Fame ought to enshrine players in such a way that, after a reasonable period of time has passed, you should be able to construct an entire modern-day roster entirely out of Hall of Famers. You cannot do that with the Football Hall of Fame, because you have no punter and no long snapper. The Hall is incomplete without at least one of each.

As such, Ray Guy has taken up the position of Canton's equivalent of Ron Santo. You'll be hearing about his absence every damn year until he gets his jacket. After that, we can try and figure out who ought to fill the long-snapper spot.


If no one stands out from the crowd, should you just pick someone randomly and put them in for the sake of having a complete team?
 
2013-11-21 03:28:02 PM  
Another vote for Ray Guy.  The fact that he isn't in already is a travesty
 
2013-11-21 03:29:42 PM  
How is Will Shields not in the HoF yet? The guy was a model lineman and person his entire career.
 
2013-11-21 03:29:54 PM  
Morten Andersen, PK--yes, one of the best at the position ever

Steve Atwater, S--no I don't think so, very good but not an all time great

Jerome Bettis, RB--I think so eventually, he's pretty high on the all time rushing list and those stats (unlike passing stats) are not going to be devalued by the way the game is played now

Derrick Brooks, LB--definitely

Tim Brown, WR-KR--definitely

Don Coryell, Coach--how is he not in already?

Roger Craig, RB--I'd say no, I don't think he was ever even the best RB in the league when he played...being on a great team doesn't make you great

Terrell Davis, RB--tough, I could see either way...I lean towards no just because he didn't do it for long enough but he was without question the best at the position for that limited time and maybe the most valuable offensive player

Edward DeBartolo Jr., Owner--yes

Tony Dungy, Coach--Jim Caldwell won 13 games with Peyton Manning...perennially losing early in the playoffs and one SB doesn't get you in the Hall of Fame when Jim "I blink once every 10 minutes" Caldwell can win 13 games with that team

Kevin Greene, LB-DE--lean towards no, don't think he was ever the best at that position

Charles Haley, DE-LB--yes

Marvin Harrison, WR--yes

Joe Jacoby, OT--yes

Jimmy Johnson, Coach--yes

Walter Jones, OT--yes

John Lynch, S--eventually...maybe

Karl Mecklenburg, LB--can honestly say I don't know

Andre Reed, WR--guess not since he hasn't made it yet

Will Shields, G--yes

Michael Strahan, DE--ugh probably though his post football career sort of taints my memories of his football accomplishments

Paul Tagliabue, Commissioner--obviously...the NFL dominates everything else in the country in part due to him

Aeneas Williams, CB-S--so close

Steve Wisniewski, G--can't say

George Young, Contributor--meh, contributor is a pretty weak category
 
2013-11-21 03:31:24 PM  
My very first football card was Ray Guy.

There are only about 80 punters with better averages than him, and only about 50 with better net yards per kick   They can't all go in, and Guy, despite Madden's overpraising of him (when John was the best broadcaster on TV), is not Hall worthy, as has been proven over and over again the past few decades.
 
2013-11-21 03:32:11 PM  

AtariGod: Good to see some more Broncos on the list.   Elway was the first real Broncos player inducted (HOF safety Willie Brown played a couple of years in Denver).  It's like the coasts forgot there was a pretty good football team in the Rockies -- Atwater, Meck and Gradishar were studs in their day.

/not sure Terrell Davis has the numbers to get in


www.1043thefan.com
 
2013-11-21 03:32:23 PM  

Super Chronic: No-doubt HOFers: Derrick Brooks, Tim Brown, Don Coryell, Kevin Greene, Jimmy Johnson, Walter Jones and Michael Strahan.

Not feeling the love for Terrell Davis, Aeneas Williams and Steve Wisniewski.

Could go either way on the rest of 'em.


Amendment: I should have put Will Shields in the "no-doubt" category.
 
2013-11-21 03:33:21 PM  

Lost Thought 00: If no one stands out from the crowd, should you just pick someone randomly and put them in for the sake of having a complete team?


I dont think that is what he is saying at all.
 
2013-11-21 03:35:12 PM  
I'll just leave this here:

sportscards4all.files.wordpress.com

/seriously, did he run over Pete Rozelle's dog or something?
 
2013-11-21 03:38:04 PM  

AtariGod: Good to see some more Broncos on the list.  Elway was the first real Broncos player inducted (HOF safety Willie Brown played a couple of years in Denver).  It's like the coasts forgot there was a pretty good football team in the Rockies -- Atwater, Meck and Gradishar were studs in their day.

/not sure Terrell Davis has the numbers to get in


Doh. I looked it up- Elway was actually inducted before Little. That's some injustice there.
 
2013-11-21 03:39:30 PM  
Jimmie Johnson doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame yet. He only has 6 Sprint Cups.
 
2013-11-21 03:39:43 PM  

macadamnut: I'll just leave this here:

/seriously, did he run over Pete Rozelle's dog or something?


Make a case for Ken Anderson that doesn't also apply to Kerry Collins. That's my argument against Anderson.
 
2013-11-21 03:41:25 PM  

Gunny Highway: Lost Thought 00: If no one stands out from the crowd, should you just pick someone randomly and put them in for the sake of having a complete team?

I dont think that is what he is saying at all.


It's the logical consequence of the hypothetical proposed, and emblematic of the reason there is no long snapper in the HOF
 
2013-11-21 03:42:21 PM  
Gonz:
Make a case for Ken Anderson that doesn't also apply to Kerry Collins. That's my argument against Anderson.

Anderson was the first quarterback to use the now famous Bill Walsh west coast offense and make it work.
 
2013-11-21 03:53:57 PM  

js34603: Morten Andersen, PK--yes, one of the best at the position ever

Steve Atwater, S--no I don't think so, very good but not an all time great

Jerome Bettis, RB--I think so eventually, he's pretty high on the all time rushing list and those stats (unlike passing stats) are not going to be devalued by the way the game is played now

Derrick Brooks, LB--definitely

Tim Brown, WR-KR--definitely

Don Coryell, Coach--how is he not in already?

Roger Craig, RB--I'd say no, I don't think he was ever even the best RB in the league when he played...being on a great team doesn't make you great

Terrell Davis, RB--tough, I could see either way...I lean towards no just because he didn't do it for long enough but he was without question the best at the position for that limited time and maybe the most valuable offensive player

Edward DeBartolo Jr., Owner--yes

Tony Dungy, Coach--Jim Caldwell won 13 games with Peyton Manning...perennially losing early in the playoffs and one SB doesn't get you in the Hall of Fame when Jim "I blink once every 10 minutes" Caldwell can win 13 games with that team

Kevin Greene, LB-DE--lean towards no, don't think he was ever the best at that position

Charles Haley, DE-LB--yes

Marvin Harrison, WR--yes

Joe Jacoby, OT--yes

Jimmy Johnson, Coach--yes

Walter Jones, OT--yes

John Lynch, S--eventually...maybe

Karl Mecklenburg, LB--can honestly say I don't know

Andre Reed, WR--guess not since he hasn't made it yet

Will Shields, G--yes

Michael Strahan, DE--ugh probably though his post football career sort of taints my memories of his football accomplishments

Paul Tagliabue, Commissioner--obviously...the NFL dominates everything else in the country in part due to him

Aeneas Williams, CB-S--so close

Steve Wisniewski, G--can't say

George Young, Contributor--meh, contributor is a pretty weak category


I'd rate Mecklenburg at his position about where I'd rate Lynch at his, and I overall agree with your assessment of Lynch. Borderline guy. Aeneas Williams and Wisniewski should get in, I think. So should Andre Reed. Reed was better than Michael Irvin in some ways, and Irvin's in. Roger Craig did have the year where he was the first guy ever to have 1000 yards rushing and 1000 yards receiving in the same year, but that's really his only qualification. If Pete Rose isn't in the Baseball Hall of fame, why should they give it to DeBartolo? They both got blackballed due to malfeasance. Besides, De Bartolo also got caught paying players under the table to skirt the salary cap. It can therefore be said that some of the success of the 49ers in the last years of Debartolo's ownership was due to blatant cheating.
 
2013-11-21 03:58:01 PM  

macadamnut: I'll just leave this here:

[sportscards4all.files.wordpress.com image 400x544]

/seriously, did he run over Pete Rozelle's dog or something?


Anderson's an interesting case, similar to Kurt Warner: a guy who had a few amazing years but quite a few shiat years in there as well. The difference is that Warner won a couple of rings.
 
2013-11-21 04:00:08 PM  

js34603: Tony Dungy, Coach--Jim Caldwell won 13 games with Peyton Manning...perennially losing early in the playoffs and one SB doesn't get you in the Hall of Fame when Jim "I blink once every 10 minutes" Caldwell can win 13 games with that team


If that's all you can come up with for Dungy and why he should or shouldn't be in the HOF, I suggest you go back to the drawing board.
 
2013-11-21 04:01:26 PM  
Re: The long snapper comments (sorry can't quote on phone). You really think a hall of fame center couldn't fill in during a hypothetical game? Also, only 46 guys are dressed on game day, not 53. That would be like arguing for a guy who only kicks off to be in too, it is not a HoF worthy specialist position.
 
2013-11-21 04:01:35 PM  

Lost Thought 00: IN:
Strahan
Harrison
Davis
Dungy

Pick 1 more from the remaining


If they make Walter Jones wait, I'm gonna be pissed.
 
2013-11-21 04:03:11 PM  

Shame Us: Lost Thought 00: IN:
Strahan
Harrison
Davis
Dungy

Pick 1 more from the remaining

If they make Walter Jones wait, I'm gonna be pissed.


Pretty sure they won't. He's as much of a lock as anyone in this class, along with Brooks. (Hm, good year for FSU people.)
 
2013-11-21 04:05:16 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Gunny Highway: Lost Thought 00: If no one stands out from the crowd, should you just pick someone randomly and put them in for the sake of having a complete team?

I dont think that is what he is saying at all.

It's the logical consequence of the hypothetical proposed, and emblematic of the reason there is no long snapper in the HOF


I dont think it is but whatever.
 
2013-11-21 04:07:16 PM  

Gonz: buckeyebrain: Gosling: ...oh wait, missed Ray's unbolded name from the veteran's committee. Okay, good. Rescinding outrage.

But he better get in.

I was about to rage against the exclusion of Ray Guy myself, but went back and re-read this comment.

Count me in this group as well.

And how the f**k isn't Don Coryell in yet? He only f*cking invented modern offensive football.

I think they should just go with the "we're making up for it all" class. Guy, Coryell, Andersen, Jones, and Wisniewski. That's a rock solid HoF class.


And Reed. He's the only major contributor from the 90s Bills that isn't in yet. If he gets in boy will there be a party down in Canton next summer.
 
2013-11-21 04:10:12 PM  
athletes-celebrities.tseworld.com

Hey what about me?  I have way more rings than Parcells!!!
 
2013-11-21 04:26:06 PM  
Once again, no Leroy Butler.
 
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