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2013-11-21 09:00:54 AM
Annandale lost the game 55-14, finishing its season with only one win.

The school's band - which goes by The Marching Atoms - just won another state championship.


Even when they are state champions, the band geeks are still a bunch of losers that the school's pathetic football team can push around.  Nice...
 
2013-11-21 09:11:05 AM
This is when the band geeks simply point to the trophy case.
 
2013-11-21 09:20:17 AM
Dammit, Coach Sylvester!
 
2013-11-21 11:20:04 AM
Submitted with nearly identical headline a week ago, but good luck
 
2013-11-21 12:17:57 PM
[football coach Mike] Scott then shook the podium the drum majors were standing on and screamed at them to stop the band

Oh that's a great idea, shake the rickety ladder that students are standing on. Did he not realize they're wearing wool and not helmets like the players he's used to (literally) pushing around? What a douche.
 
2013-11-21 12:31:06 PM
My alma mater. Named the Atoms....cause the school was built in the 50's during the atomic age when everyone thought anything nuclear was cool! Last week's Simpsons brought back flashbacks, as the football team in it had our exact name, logo, and colors (red and white).
 
2013-11-21 01:08:55 PM
Put the tubas in front, trumpets and bones behind, pics and clarinets can provide long range support. Drumline on the flank.

CHARGE!

/drum major should've hit 'em with their mace.
//in all seriousness, the coach is a dick and should be fired.
 
2013-11-21 01:09:35 PM
Man, I need to get some rye and pie now for lunch.

Thanks subby.
 
2013-11-21 01:09:35 PM

BunkyBrewman: This is when the band geeks simply point to the trophy case.


Pointing to a trophy case ain't gonna stop the wedgies and swirlies
 
2013-11-21 01:10:13 PM
Leland Stanford Junior University Marching Band would ~not~ have yielded...
 
2013-11-21 01:10:35 PM
At least they weren't stuck playing Helter Skelter.

/Don McLean trifecta in play
 
2013-11-21 01:11:14 PM
Goddamn jocks.

Dude needs a trombone slide to the back of the head.

/Hey Coach, we've decided to let you join the band.  You can be the drum.
 
2013-11-21 01:11:21 PM
This version of the story is surprisingly light on the details.
 
2013-11-21 01:14:40 PM
Did they give them thirty-five sweet goodbyes?
 
2013-11-21 01:15:15 PM

Gig103: [football coach Mike] Scott then shook the podium the drum majors were standing on and screamed at them to stop the band

Oh that's a great idea, shake the rickety ladder that students are standing on. Did he not realize they're wearing wool and not helmets like the players he's used to (literally) pushing around? What a douche.


8 miles high & falling fast
 
2013-11-21 01:15:59 PM
www.wholesalemonograms.com
 
2013-11-21 01:16:00 PM
My high school band had similar interactions with out football team's coaching staff.  Bunch of dicks, always trying to keep us from ever practicing on the field, kicking us off the field early / making us start late.

The best was the one hear that our football team went across the state to playoffs/championships.  Band had no budget for the trip and asked if the football team could chip in.  Football coach and the principal told us to fark off and that weren't needed anyways.

So the team goes to Tallahassee and loses.  Afterwards the coach told local reporters they lost because not enough fans and the marching band didn't come to support them; they were out there all alone and the poor, poor souls on the football team were so distraught over the lack of love from them in the stands that they lost.  If ONLY the mean 'ole bandnerds had come to help them!
 
2013-11-21 01:16:34 PM
This story reads better while humming Creedence Clearwater's "Traveling Band".
 
2013-11-21 01:18:08 PM

cuzsis: Put the tubas in front, trumpets and bones behind, pics and clarinets can provide long range support. Drumline on the flank.

CHARGE!

/drum major should've hit 'em with their mace.
//in all seriousness, the coach is a dick and should be fired.


They might even have a better season for it.
 
2013-11-21 01:26:19 PM
My wife is a band director.  She has made a point of making friends with the football coaches.  She makes it very clear (to the coaches and to her students) that the marching band is there to support the football team.  As a result she garners a lot of respect not only from the coaches but also the football players.  This carries over to off-field, too.

The only time she has had a problem is with visiting teams coming out early to do warm ups.  And her band a has a strict "no yield" policy so whether on field or on the street, if you get in their way, expect to get lit up.  It happens.

/csb
 
2013-11-21 01:30:13 PM
My bands in HS and college had pretty much the opposite relationship with our football teams as I remember it. My HS pep band once drew a 15-yard 'unsportsmanlike conduct' penalty for not stopping playing the school's fight song abruptly at the end of a short time out. The football team- who was unceremoniously stomping the opposing team at the time- were cheering and laughing their asses off about it- and promptly turned around and got all the yardage back and then some.

In college, at a modest-sized engineering school where there were NO sports scholarships or 'easy' majors (even our English program was tough...) and all the players had to meet the same academic requirements as the other students, our football team was terrible. They never had a positive record in the 7 years (undergrad and grad) that I was there, and regularly lost the annual exhibition game against the local High School. More people came to the football games to watch our halftime shows than to watch the game, and much of the school joked that we'd have stood a better chance of winning if the marching band simply remained on the field to play after halftime.
 
2013-11-21 01:33:24 PM
You have to be kidding me. A high school football coach with anger management issues, and a violent temper trying to push kids around? Color me shocked. Also, wake me when he ends up on the bad end of a beat down by about 20 or so pipe-hitting thugs in an alleyway so I have something to read that is entertaining.
He sounds like the typical overpaid jackass that suburban buttwipes hire to make their kids feel special by winning a llot of division championships, and *gasp* dare I say it, Mildred, the state pennant?
 
2013-11-21 01:38:49 PM

vudukungfu: You have to be kidding me. A high school football coach with anger management issues, and a violent temper trying to push kids around? Color me shocked. Also, wake me when he ends up on the bad end of a beat down by about 20 or so pipe-hitting thugs in an alleyway so I have something to read that is entertaining.
He sounds like the typical overpaid jackass that suburban buttwipes hire to make their kids feel special by winning a llot of division championships, and *gasp* dare I say it, Mildred, the state pennant?


Except they lost.  Badly.  If I was in the marching band, I'd get everyone to refuse to play their instruments for the rest of the season.  Still marching, but completely silent.  All season long.  And we'd stay on the field 10 seconds too long every time, to make sure there was a penalty.  The coach can just go fark himself.
 
2013-11-21 01:48:16 PM

mojodragon: The coach can just go fark himself.


ezakly.
I made the BBall team, and rode pines until they finally absolutely had to put me in. It was either that or forfeit the last game of the season. And guess what?
 
2013-11-21 02:00:04 PM

Lucky LaRue: Annandale lost the game 55-14, finishing its season with only one win.

The school's band - which goes by The Marching Atoms - just won another state championship.

Even when they are state champions, the band geeks are still a bunch of losers that the school's pathetic football team can push around.  Nice...


Coach had reason get the season over with.
 
2013-11-21 02:13:24 PM
I still don't get why the coach was trying to get them off the field during half time. Isn't that what the marching band is for?

/Never marched
//Never played or watched football back in school
///I was never big on that school spirit stuff
 
2013-11-21 02:20:11 PM
I'd rather have a great band and a crappy football team, than vice versa.

And, apparently, that's what that school has.

// Oh, and +1, subby.
 
2013-11-21 02:21:44 PM

Ashyukun: My bands in HS and college had pretty much the opposite relationship with our football teams as I remember it. My HS pep band once drew a 15-yard 'unsportsmanlike conduct' penalty for not stopping playing the school's fight song abruptly at the end of a short time out. The football team- who was unceremoniously stomping the opposing team at the time- were cheering and laughing their asses off about it- and promptly turned around and got all the yardage back and then some.

In college, at a modest-sized engineering school where there were NO sports scholarships or 'easy' majors (even our English program was tough...) and all the players had to meet the same academic requirements as the other students, our football team was terrible. They never had a positive record in the 7 years (undergrad and grad) that I was there, and regularly lost the annual exhibition game against the local High School. More people came to the football games to watch our halftime shows than to watch the game, and much of the school joked that we'd have stood a better chance of winning if the marching band simply remained on the field to play after halftime.


I know a school that has had to have football players that would not give up band.  They marched in football uniform.
 
2013-11-21 02:50:01 PM
The marching band should just play kazoo's for the football team.
 
2013-11-21 03:06:56 PM
Nice one, subby!  Even though it went over most heads like a small airplane with iced wings.
 
2013-11-21 03:08:12 PM

Devolving_Spud: Nice one, subby!  Even though it went over most heads like a small airplane with iced wings.


Some of us are just bitter.
 
2013-11-21 03:40:22 PM
Park and blow!
 
2013-11-21 03:57:33 PM
Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band was unsuccessful at driving away the blue meanies.

encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2013-11-21 04:05:06 PM

hobnail: My wife is a band director.  She has made a point of making friends with the football coaches.  She makes it very clear (to the coaches and to her students) that the marching band is there to support the football team.  As a result she garners a lot of respect not only from the coaches but also the football players.  This carries over to off-field, too.

The only time she has had a problem is with visiting teams coming out early to do warm ups.  And her band a has a strict "no yield" policy so whether on field or on the street, if you get in their way, expect to get lit up.  It happens.

/csb


The problem is that because of marching band competitions growing very quickly in stature and popularity in the last 20 years, if your band is not focused on winning competitions, you are not seen by the district or principal as doing your job.  Marching bands are not pep organizations in the eye of many districts and principals.

I started marching band at a school where the director and football team were on the same page (both of us were terrible, but the band would reliably bring 250 members and related family/friends to away games).  The principal forced out the director during my junior year and replaced him with a "competition-focused" director.  Relations went downhill with conflicts about missing games for competitions, use of fields for practice, and not playing the fun pop tunes the fans and players enjoyed.  The band wins trophies now and fills the school trophy case, but entirely at the expense of the atmosphere of the football games.

I have a much longer rant about this, but it would be boring.

/csb
 
2013-11-21 04:24:00 PM
The band left the field after the second song and played their final number after the game was finished.

The band should have just went home after halftime. "See ya! Enjoy your losing season." And then go support the chess club.
 
2013-11-21 04:25:59 PM
I guess I should be ashamed to say that's my high school.  Although I graduated too many decades ago for anything to be applicable.  Yes, I am old.  Get off my lawn.
 
2013-11-21 05:03:54 PM

togaman2k: hobnail: My wife is a band director.  She has made a point of making friends with the football coaches.  She makes it very clear (to the coaches and to her students) that the marching band is there to support the football team.  As a result she garners a lot of respect not only from the coaches but also the football players.  This carries over to off-field, too.

The only time she has had a problem is with visiting teams coming out early to do warm ups.  And her band a has a strict "no yield" policy so whether on field or on the street, if you get in their way, expect to get lit up.  It happens.

/csb

The problem is that because of marching band competitions growing very quickly in stature and popularity in the last 20 years, if your band is not focused on winning competitions, you are not seen by the district or principal as doing your job.  Marching bands are not pep organizations in the eye of many districts and principals.

I started marching band at a school where the director and football team were on the same page (both of us were terrible, but the band would reliably bring 250 members and related family/friends to away games).  The principal forced out the director during my junior year and replaced him with a "competition-focused" director.  Relations went downhill with conflicts about missing games for competitions, use of fields for practice, and not playing the fun pop tunes the fans and players enjoyed.  The band wins trophies now and fills the school trophy case, but entirely at the expense of the atmosphere of the football games.

I have a much longer rant about this, but it would be boring.

/csb


what do you mean 'would be' ?
 
2013-11-21 05:10:10 PM

endtimethirtyfour: Leland Stanford Junior University Marching Band would ~not~ have yielded...

www.berkeley.edu
 
2013-11-21 06:15:47 PM
The band SHOULD be off the field by the 4 minute mark.
 
2013-11-21 06:55:35 PM

oldweevil: The band SHOULD be off the field by the 4 minute mark.


If they're at the four-minute mark and have just started their second song, that almost certainly means they weren't allowed to take the field in a timely manner to begin with.  So, who kept the band from starting on time?  When I was in band in school, our halftime shows started less than a minute after halftime began and never ran longer than about 11 minutes (4 tunes, usually), and those were considered long shows.
 
2013-11-21 07:01:15 PM

Finger51: togaman2k: hobnail: My wife is a band director.  She has made a point of making friends with the football coaches.  She makes it very clear (to the coaches and to her students) that the marching band is there to support the football team.  As a result she garners a lot of respect not only from the coaches but also the football players.  This carries over to off-field, too.

The only time she has had a problem is with visiting teams coming out early to do warm ups.  And her band a has a strict "no yield" policy so whether on field or on the street, if you get in their way, expect to get lit up.  It happens.

/csb

The problem is that because of marching band competitions growing very quickly in stature and popularity in the last 20 years, if your band is not focused on winning competitions, you are not seen by the district or principal as doing your job.  Marching bands are not pep organizations in the eye of many districts and principals.

I started marching band at a school where the director and football team were on the same page (both of us were terrible, but the band would reliably bring 250 members and related family/friends to away games).  The principal forced out the director during my junior year and replaced him with a "competition-focused" director.  Relations went downhill with conflicts about missing games for competitions, use of fields for practice, and not playing the fun pop tunes the fans and players enjoyed.  The band wins trophies now and fills the school trophy case, but entirely at the expense of the atmosphere of the football games.

I have a much longer rant about this, but it would be boring.

/csb

what do you mean 'would be' ?


Okay, "is," but my wife has heard it enough times...

A different article than this one spelled out more of the back story.  Apparently the coaches agreed ahead of time to allow the band to take the full halftime and extra time (with no penalty) because of senior night activities, but the coach was just being a dick because his team was losing.
 
2013-11-21 07:03:20 PM

togaman2k: hobnail: My wife is a band director.  She has made a point of making friends with the football coaches.  She makes it very clear (to the coaches and to her students) that the marching band is there to support the football team.  As a result she garners a lot of respect not only from the coaches but also the football players.  This carries over to off-field, too.

The only time she has had a problem is with visiting teams coming out early to do warm ups.  And her band a has a strict "no yield" policy so whether on field or on the street, if you get in their way, expect to get lit up.  It happens.

/csb

The problem is that because of marching band competitions growing very quickly in stature and popularity in the last 20 years, if your band is not focused on winning competitions, you are not seen by the district or principal as doing your job.  Marching bands are not pep organizations in the eye of many districts and principals.

I started marching band at a school where the director and football team were on the same page (both of us were terrible, but the band would reliably bring 250 members and related family/friends to away games).  The principal forced out the director during my junior year and replaced him with a "competition-focused" director.  Relations went downhill with conflicts about missing games for competitions, use of fields for practice, and not playing the fun pop tunes the fans and players enjoyed.  The band wins trophies now and fills the school trophy case, but entirely at the expense of the atmosphere of the football games.

I have a much longer rant about this, but it would be boring.

/csb


My oldest daughter is I her high school marching band, they played at the Steeler game this week.
The football team went 1-8.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9--PjcA2Ysg">https://www.youtube.com /watch?v=9--PjcA2Ysg
 
2013-11-21 07:08:03 PM
Don McClean II: The Music Dies Another Day
 
2013-11-21 08:13:26 PM

Satanic_Hamster: My high school band had similar interactions with out football team's coaching staff.  Bunch of dicks, always trying to keep us from ever practicing on the field, kicking us off the field early / making us start late.

The best was the one hear that our football team went across the state to playoffs/championships.  Band had no budget for the trip and asked if the football team could chip in.  Football coach and the principal told us to fark off and that weren't needed anyways.

So the team goes to Tallahassee and loses.  Afterwards the coach told local reporters they lost because not enough fans and the marching band didn't come to support them; they were out there all alone and the poor, poor souls on the football team were so distraught over the lack of love from them in the stands that they lost.  If ONLY the mean 'ole bandnerds had come to help them!


Back in the day most of those in the stands at away games were parents of the band.
 
2013-11-21 10:53:44 PM

Clint_Torres: The band left the field after the second song and played their final number after the game was finished.

The band should have just went home after halftime. "See ya! Enjoy your losing season." And then go support the chess club.


Now THAT would shake up the visiting team.
When is halftime in chess?
 
2013-11-22 12:03:52 AM

WelldeadLink: When is halftime in chess?


In an age long past, an age yet to come, I saw the rules and regulations for chess teams in central Illinois. One of those rules was "Chess team cheerleaders may form pyramids, but those pyramids may only be 2 people high." I was like
crow202.org
...but quickly got over it as I was in the marching band. And on the Quiz Bowl team, which had a much better record than any school athletic team during that time period. Whatever.
 
2013-11-22 12:21:22 AM

poot_rootbeer: endtimethirtyfour: Leland Stanford Junior University Marching Band would ~not~ have yielded...
[www.berkeley.edu image 425x324]


OK, is FARK full of band nerds??
Let's hear an accounting of your marching band years--
Me:
3 seasons high school
4 seasons college
no drum and bugle corps, but I thought they were so cool...  :(
 
2013-11-22 12:38:05 AM
That'll be the day I go back to Annandale
 
2013-11-22 01:16:57 AM

lesliepop: poot_rootbeer: endtimethirtyfour: Leland Stanford Junior University Marching Band would ~not~ have yielded...
[www.berkeley.edu image 425x324]

OK, is FARK full of band nerds??
Let's hear an accounting of your marching band years--
Me:
3 seasons high school
4 seasons college
no drum and bugle corps, but I thought they were so cool...  :(


Two years marching band
One season Winter Guard
Then moved out of the midwest and never marched again.
Now on third year as Band Mom.
 
2013-11-22 03:46:33 AM

lesliepop: poot_rootbeer: endtimethirtyfour: Leland Stanford Junior University Marching Band would ~not~ have yielded...
[www.berkeley.edu image 425x324]

OK, is FARK full of band nerds??
Let's hear an accounting of your marching band years--
Me:
3 seasons high school
4 seasons college
no drum and bugle corps, but I thought they were so cool...  :(


4 years of marching band and indoor percussion (including placing second one year at WGI in Scholastic Open division). People were talking earlier about using a tuba as a weapon? Our mallet insturments (marimbas, vibraphones, etc) had custom made steel frames and used dumpster castors for wheels and we were very good at getting them up to high speed to get set up due to competition time constraints. It'd be like bowling with the football team as pins.
 
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