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(Washington Post)   U.S. and Afghanistan reach an agreement to keep troops in place after 2014. Apparently our lack of an exit strategy has been replaced by a strategy to never exit   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 47
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2013-11-21 08:12:50 AM
We can't just cut and run, or all of our dead troops will have died in vain.
 
2013-11-21 08:27:44 AM
We have always been at war with Southwest Asia.
 
2013-11-21 08:38:07 AM

Therion: We can't just cut and run, or all of our dead troops will have died in vain.


Too late.
 
2013-11-21 09:15:16 AM
This is Obama's Benghazikatrinabayofpigslittlebighorn.
 
2013-11-21 09:48:24 AM
Apparently, we the people won't be asked about this.
 
2013-11-21 09:49:23 AM
U.S. imperialism continues! Hooray!
 
2013-11-21 09:50:00 AM
Thank god we never elected McCain, we would still be in Afghanistan if we did...
 
2013-11-21 09:50:11 AM
Secretary of State John Kerry said Wednesday that the U.S. and Afghanistan have agreed on the language of a bilateral security pact that could clear the way for thousands of U.S. troops to train and assist Afghan forces after the NATO combat mission ends in 2014.

OH NO!
 
2013-11-21 09:50:51 AM
They find oil or something?
 
2013-11-21 09:52:39 AM
U.S. and NATO could keep between 8,000 and 12,000 troops there. Of those, the U.S. is expected to provide no more than 8,000.


translation: The US taxpayer is going to be paying to keep 8,000 troops there and that will be the entirety of the force.
 
2013-11-21 09:52:47 AM
Bin Laden is dead.  The Taliban and Al Qaeda are both active but in tatters.

There's nothing that can be accomplished with boots on the ground that currently can't be accomplished with drone strikes.

Why the hell are we still in a country where the people there have been at war with each other for hundreds of years?
 
2013-11-21 09:52:51 AM
Can't we just put up a sign that says we won and call it a victory, go home and gloat
 
2013-11-21 09:53:07 AM
The US needs a steady supply of opium.
 
2013-11-21 09:59:24 AM

hugram: The US needs a steady supply of opium.


and the Afghan govt needs a supply of American dollars.
 
2013-11-21 10:00:59 AM
Dammit.
 
2013-11-21 10:01:34 AM

Uranus Is Huge!: They find oil or something?


I think it's lithium.
 
2013-11-21 10:03:44 AM
The US Taxpayer is paying to keep 50,000 troops stationed in Germany, too
 
2013-11-21 10:04:20 AM
3rd Rule of President Club is "Once you invade a country, never leave"

/obvious
 
2013-11-21 10:09:26 AM
Waste of time, money and lives.

"Protecting our freedom"

Suck my dick. Not once in my 36 years has the armed forces protected my freedom.

Except maybe the Coast Guard, and NORAD, maybe border crossing police.
 
2013-11-21 10:11:04 AM
You would think after the cluster*ck he created by invading Iraq, Obama would have thunk his exit strategy through before invading and occupying another country.

Thanks for the empty-chair leadership, Obomba.
 
2013-11-21 10:12:59 AM
Sorry subby, Obama got us out of Afganistan, Iraq and closed Gitmo.  He promised, so it is true.
 
2013-11-21 10:15:02 AM
WW2 ended in Japan in 1945, our troops are still there. Don't look for us to ever leave Afghanistan.
 
2013-11-21 10:16:08 AM

Dog Welder: Why the hell are we still in a country where the people there have been at war with each other for hundreds of years?



Military Industrial Complex needs their bootstrappy corporate welfare or America will perish in a blizzard of Invading North Koreans.
 
2013-11-21 10:19:02 AM

Alphax: Apparently, we the people won't be asked about this.


This is annoyingly similar to the USSR. They were invited by the communist government in Afghanistan and ended up stuck in a stupid fight for how long?

FFS just leave and if they have a terrorist cell there again we need to eliminate, then we send in what is necessary to get the top guys only.
 
2013-11-21 10:27:11 AM

Walker: WW2 ended in Japan in 1945, our troops are still there. Don't look for us to ever leave Afghanistan.


There is no army base at the Alamo so there is hope we can leave some day.
 
2013-11-21 10:30:38 AM

Tricky Chicken: Sorry subby, Obama got us out of Afganistan, Iraq and closed Gitmo.  He promised, so it is true.


I'm still fuming that Obama disregarded the expressed wishes of Congress and kept Gitmo open.
 
2013-11-21 10:37:46 AM
Oh no! 8,000 to train and assist! That's obviously the same as our role is now. Right? Anyone?
 
2013-11-21 10:44:34 AM

monoski: Walker: WW2 ended in Japan in 1945, our troops are still there. Don't look for us to ever leave Afghanistan.

There is no army base at the Alamo so there is hope we can leave some day.


That was part of Texas's war of independence, before they were part of the United States. We on the other hand still have a military base near Lexington and Concord (Hanscom Air Force Base).
 
2013-11-21 10:48:06 AM

monoski: hugram: The US needs a steady supply of opium.

and the Afghan govt needs a supply of American dollars.


wasnt the recent crop of opium a record breaker?

yah yah usa
 
2013-11-21 10:49:48 AM
Huh....?   Wasn't this some sort of a campaign issue?

"We are bringing our troops home from Afghanistan. And I've set a timetable. We will have them all out of there by 2014,"  - Obama in September 2012.

There was some other guy running, and I think Obama was hammering him for not having the same time table.


Recently the WH put out:  " The war in Afghanistan will end next year, as the president has promised. The combat mission will be over," White House press secretary Jay Carney insisted Tuesday.

Ok, so the combat mission is over.  No US troops need to patrol.   So why keep them there.
$$$,$$$,$$$

Maybe there are billions of reasons.   Maybe we were 'misled'.

Seems like there ought to be some person in Washington who would have some say in what happens.   Someone who wields some influence in Foreign Affairs.     Well if not, surely we can find someone to scapegoat.

Haliburton,  Big Oil,  Global Warming,  Teabaggers,  Palin,  ... Walmart  ??
 
2013-11-21 10:52:36 AM

the_cnidarian: Uranus Is Huge!: They find oil or something?

I think it's lithium.


Time to liberate it!
 
2013-11-21 10:52:51 AM

netcentric: Ok, so the combat mission is over.  No US troops need to patrol.   So why keep them there.
$$$,$$$,$$$


I don't get it. What's the financial reason for keeping 8000 troops in Afghanistan for training purposes?
 
2013-11-21 11:00:02 AM

cameroncrazy1984: netcentric: Ok, so the combat mission is over.  No US troops need to patrol.   So why keep them there.
$$$,$$$,$$$

I don't get it. What's the financial reason for keeping 8000 troops in Afghanistan for training purposes?


you can't charge 45 dollars for a case of soda among other things if the troops are being trained in the US.
 
2013-11-21 11:00:53 AM

Headso: cameroncrazy1984: netcentric: Ok, so the combat mission is over.  No US troops need to patrol.   So why keep them there.
$$$,$$$,$$$

I don't get it. What's the financial reason for keeping 8000 troops in Afghanistan for training purposes?

you can't charge 45 dollars for a case of soda among other things if the troops are being trained in the US.


Yes you can. I'm sure Halliburton does supplies for bases all over the world.
 
2013-11-21 11:04:27 AM

bindlestiff2600: monoski: hugram: The US needs a steady supply of opium.

and the Afghan govt needs a supply of American dollars.

wasnt the recent crop of opium a record breaker?

yah yah usa


Record breaking harvest and more farmers reverting to poppies as the subsidies to encourage them to grow other crops are vanishing.
 
2013-11-21 11:19:46 AM

the_cnidarian: Uranus Is Huge!: They find oil or something?

I think it's lithium.


You misspelled 'opium'.
 
2013-11-21 11:22:39 AM

the_cnidarian: Uranus Is Huge!: They find oil or something?

I think it's lithium Opium.


FTFY.
 
2013-11-21 11:34:46 AM

Dog Welder: Bin Laden is dead.  The Taliban and Al Qaeda are both active but in tatters.

There's nothing that can be accomplished with boots on the ground that currently can't be accomplished with drone strikes.

Why the hell are we still in a country where the people there have been at war with each other for hundreds of years?


Because Afghanistan has many competing groups, include a majority of people who are unhappy with the current government, for reasons ranging from religion to the rampant nepotism and corruption in the Karzai administration (they steal money on a scale that would shame a mobster). We want to keep soldiers there to train a group of largely illiterate, mostly rural farmers into something resembling soldiers to ensure the people we bought and paid for stay in power of the "democracy."
 
2013-11-21 11:43:21 AM

monoski: Walker: WW2 ended in Japan in 1945, our troops are still there. Don't look for us to ever leave Afghanistan.

There is no army base at the Alamo so there is hope we can leave some day.


So you don't know what the 'Ripleys Believe It Or Not" right across the street *really* conceals?

It's the subterannean entrance to a massive

hang on, knock at the door
 
2013-11-21 12:52:59 PM

Dog Welder: There's nothing that can be accomplished with boots on the ground that currently can't be accomplished with drone strikes.


Yes, drones are great at training troops.
 
2013-11-21 01:00:04 PM

Tyrano Soros: You would think after the cluster*ck he created by invading Iraq, Obama would have thunk his exit strategy through before invading and occupying another country.

Thanks for the empty-chair leadership, Obomba.


Hey now.

He tried to negotiate keeping us in Iraq past the treaty date for total withdrawal too.

It's just that the Iraqis refused to let him do so.
 
2013-11-21 01:00:59 PM
China is trying to setup business and exploit there.  they need Americans to keep dying so the Chinese works don't die.
 
2013-11-21 01:56:44 PM

Cathedralmaster: monoski: Walker: WW2 ended in Japan in 1945, our troops are still there. Don't look for us to ever leave Afghanistan.

There is no army base at the Alamo so there is hope we can leave some day.

That was part of Texas's war of independence, before they were part of the United States. We on the other hand still have a military base near Lexington and Concord (Hanscom Air Force Base).


Fort Sam Houston, Lackland AFB, Randolph AFB, and Camp Bullis don't count?
 
2013-11-21 02:00:24 PM
We are still in the Phillipines, Japan, and Korea.  We really hate Asia.
 
2013-11-21 08:57:52 PM
For our interests!
 
2013-11-21 09:02:19 PM

I_C_Weener: We are still in the Phillipines, Japan, and Korea.  We really hate Asia.


 whatya  mean  most of the filipinos are in  u.s.  saudi arabia etc.

/ducks
 
2013-11-21 09:06:25 PM

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