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(Yahoo)   "He called my nephew a nasty name and my nephew Cole cocked him in the mouth. I'm proud of my nephew for doing that." Says one parent in an Iowa town where parents have rallied to defend the bullying of an autistic child   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 212
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2013-11-20 07:09:07 PM  

JesusJuice: netizencain: Because being called a name is a good reason to punch someone... great parenting.  I'm sure this is the message that they get in Church.

It is. If every time you act like a dick someone smacks you in the face, you'll learn not to be a dick.


That doesn't work on people with Asperger's.
 
2013-11-20 07:09:58 PM  

JesusJuice: netizencain: Because being called a name is a good reason to punch someone... great parenting.  I'm sure this is the message that they get in Church.

It is. If every time you act like a dick someone smacks you in the face, you'll learn not to be a dick.


Hasn't stop you.
 
2013-11-20 07:10:19 PM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: netizencain: Benevolent Misanthrope: 1.  Aspergers.  Yes, it's a form of autism, but it's not like the kid is silently rocking in the corner.

2. "Aspergers" is quite often shorthand for "my kid is socially awkward, but I don't like to think he's anything but a precious snowflake, so let's make it Not His Fault and not require him to learn social norms".

3.  If the kid is mainstream enough to be in classes with normal kids, then he's mainstream enough to be held responsible for his actions.  If you think he should be removed from the environment, then you have to admit your kid is a tard.  You can't have it both ways.

Ya... so if he calls someone a name, we should beat him up.  Because that's just AMERICA!

a lesson in maners punctuaeted by a black eye will stick. Remember not to call people names and they wont knock you on your @$$. now play nice you little tard.


That doesn't work on people with Asperger's.

Geez you people are slow.
 
2013-11-20 07:11:05 PM  

umad: RKTeuthis: Have some farking compassion.

I don't really care if you are an asshole due to mental illness or if you are an asshole by choice. To me, you are just an asshole.


Wow, look at that asshole.
 
2013-11-20 07:11:36 PM  

Autistic Hiker: Everyone has a right to the best education they can receive.


Bullshiat. If that was true, then the smart kids wouldn't be forced to be bored out of their minds while they wait for the tards to catch up. No Child Left Behind is a misnomer. We are leaving our best and brightest behind in the name of "fairness". It is absurd.
 
2013-11-20 07:12:20 PM  
Regarding the cocking in the mouth, here's the comment where it came from:

he called my nephew a nasty name and my nephew cole cocked him in the mouth. I'm proud of my nephew for doing that. You gotta stand up for yourself. a week or so before that, levi hit my nephew and his friend on the bus. hes a little bully too. Maybe he needs to be in another school where they work with autistic children at his magnitude.. IT ALL STARTS AT HOME. not even going to go there.

I'm guessing his nephew's name is not Cole - this retard has just misheard the phrase "cold-cocked".
 
2013-11-20 07:12:25 PM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: netizencain: Benevolent Misanthrope: 1.  Aspergers.  Yes, it's a form of autism, but it's not like the kid is silently rocking in the corner.

2. "Aspergers" is quite often shorthand for "my kid is socially awkward, but I don't like to think he's anything but a precious snowflake, so let's make it Not His Fault and not require him to learn social norms".

3.  If the kid is mainstream enough to be in classes with normal kids, then he's mainstream enough to be held responsible for his actions.  If you think he should be removed from the environment, then you have to admit your kid is a tard.  You can't have it both ways.

Ya... so if he calls someone a name, we should beat him up.  Because that's just AMERICA!

a lesson in maners punctuaeted by a black eye will stick. Remember not to call people names and they wont knock you on your @$$. now play nice you little tard.


Or he will get a gun and then we get to reset the counter on the days since last mass shooting again and have more wonderful gun threads.
 
2013-11-20 07:12:56 PM  

Autistic Hiker: JesusJuice: netizencain: Because being called a name is a good reason to punch someone... great parenting.  I'm sure this is the message that they get in Church.

It is. If every time you act like a dick someone smacks you in the face, you'll learn not to be a dick.

That doesn't work on people with Asperger's.


Really? Do they know what hot is? Associate a specific word with a smack in the mouth enough and you'll stop saying those words. Don't call it social graces, call it survival skills.
 
2013-11-20 07:15:45 PM  
I'm guessing some of those idiot Iowans discussed in this story are also in this thread.

But I repeat myself.
 
2013-11-20 07:15:47 PM  

RexTalionis: umad: RKTeuthis: Have some farking compassion.

I don't really care if you are an asshole due to mental illness or if you are an asshole by choice. To me, you are just an asshole.

Wow, look at that asshole.


I have ass-burgers so I can't help it, so I can't and shouldn't have to stop being an asshole. Have some farking compassion.
 
2013-11-20 07:16:04 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Autistic Hiker: JesusJuice: netizencain: Because being called a name is a good reason to punch someone... great parenting.  I'm sure this is the message that they get in Church.

It is. If every time you act like a dick someone smacks you in the face, you'll learn not to be a dick.

That doesn't work on people with Asperger's.

Really? Do they know what hot is? Associate a specific word with a smack in the mouth enough and you'll stop saying those words. Don't call it social graces, call it survival skills.


as someone who grew up a scrawny book nerd in small town iowa who was absolutely petrified by any social interaction whatsoever....yeah, i gotta agree.  Good thing we didn't have aspies or adhd in the 70s. how did we even survive?
 
2013-11-20 07:17:56 PM  

Warlordtrooper: Duke_leto_Atredes: netizencain: Benevolent Misanthrope: 1.  Aspergers.  Yes, it's a form of autism, but it's not like the kid is silently rocking in the corner.

2. "Aspergers" is quite often shorthand for "my kid is socially awkward, but I don't like to think he's anything but a precious snowflake, so let's make it Not His Fault and not require him to learn social norms".

3.  If the kid is mainstream enough to be in classes with normal kids, then he's mainstream enough to be held responsible for his actions.  If you think he should be removed from the environment, then you have to admit your kid is a tard.  You can't have it both ways.

Ya... so if he calls someone a name, we should beat him up.  Because that's just AMERICA!

a lesson in maners punctuaeted by a black eye will stick. Remember not to call people names and they wont knock you on your @$$. now play nice you little tard.

Or he will get a gun and then we get to reset the counter on the days since last mass shooting again and have more wonderful gun threads.o

ok then we lock all the tards up and stop "mainstraming" them

we can stop testing stuff on aniimals and use tards instead, hows that wrok for you? either they are a fully responsible human or they are lab rats. pick a side

 
2013-11-20 07:18:42 PM  

Omahawg: ReverendJynxed: Autistic Hiker: JesusJuice: netizencain: Because being called a name is a good reason to punch someone... great parenting.  I'm sure this is the message that they get in Church.

It is. If every time you act like a dick someone smacks you in the face, you'll learn not to be a dick.

That doesn't work on people with Asperger's.

Really? Do they know what hot is? Associate a specific word with a smack in the mouth enough and you'll stop saying those words. Don't call it social graces, call it survival skills.

as someone who grew up a scrawny book nerd in small town iowa who was absolutely petrified by any social interaction whatsoever....yeah, i gotta agree.  Good thing we didn't have aspies or adhd in the 70s. how did we even survive?


We didn't. This is hell.
 
2013-11-20 07:22:15 PM  

umad: Autistic Hiker: Everyone has a right to the best education they can receive.

Bullshiat. If that was true, then the smart kids wouldn't be forced to be bored out of their minds while they wait for the tards to catch up. No Child Left Behind is a misnomer. We are leaving our best and brightest behind in the name of "fairness". It is absurd.


First, the right I am talking about is enshrined in law.

Second, if that right doesn't exist, then how it limited? The mentally disabled? The physically disabled? The merely slow? Minorities? Go ahead, you have all the answers. Tell us all about civil rights.

Third, as a matter of pragmatism, not educating people is more costly to scurry than educating them.

Fourth, and most importantly, if smart kids are truly being held up by slow ones, your issue isn't with the kids, it's with the school.
 
2013-11-20 07:23:52 PM  
Link

/Sorry...
 
2013-11-20 07:25:33 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Omahawg: ReverendJynxed: Autistic Hiker: JesusJuice: netizencain: Because being called a name is a good reason to punch someone... great parenting.  I'm sure this is the message that they get in Church.

It is. If every time you act like a dick someone smacks you in the face, you'll learn not to be a dick.

That doesn't work on people with Asperger's.

Really? Do they know what hot is? Associate a specific word with a smack in the mouth enough and you'll stop saying those words. Don't call it social graces, call it survival skills.

as someone who grew up a scrawny book nerd in small town iowa who was absolutely petrified by any social interaction whatsoever....yeah, i gotta agree.  Good thing we didn't have aspies or adhd in the 70s. how did we even survive?

We didn't. This is hell.


In the 70's it was still OK to say that people were awkward or just retarded.
Btw, I was checked recently for using the word 'tranny' to describe, wait for it, a transsexual! Times change.
 
2013-11-20 07:25:37 PM  

umad: RexTalionis: umad: RKTeuthis: Have some farking compassion.

I don't really care if you are an asshole due to mental illness or if you are an asshole by choice. To me, you are just an asshole.

Wow, look at that asshole.

I have ass-burgers so I can't help it, so I can't and shouldn't have to stop being an asshole. Have some farking compassion.


No you don't. And I frankly doubt you've ever seen full blown Asperger's, which is truly something to behold.
 
2013-11-20 07:26:03 PM  

RexTalionis: I'm guessing some of those idiot Iowans discussed in this story are also in this thread.

But I repeat myself.


I thought they were called the Iowanese

or was it Iowanis?
 
2013-11-20 07:26:27 PM  

Autistic Hiker: JesusJuice: netizencain: Because being called a name is a good reason to punch someone... great parenting.  I'm sure this is the message that they get in Church.

It is. If every time you act like a dick someone smacks you in the face, you'll learn not to be a dick.

That doesn't work on people with Asperger's.


It's still satisfying to smack them. Aspergers isn't even a real thing, just an excuse for awkward jackasses.
 
2013-11-20 07:26:55 PM  

HighlanderRPI: RexTalionis: I'm guessing some of those idiot Iowans discussed in this story are also in this thread.

But I repeat myself.

I thought they were called the Iowanese

or was it Iowanis?


Iowanians.
 
2013-11-20 07:28:19 PM  

Autistic Hiker: umad: Autistic Hiker: Everyone has a right to the best education they can receive.

Bullshiat. If that was true, then the smart kids wouldn't be forced to be bored out of their minds while they wait for the tards to catch up. No Child Left Behind is a misnomer. We are leaving our best and brightest behind in the name of "fairness". It is absurd.

First, the right I am talking about is enshrined in law.

Second, if that right doesn't exist, then how it limited? The mentally disabled? The physically disabled? The merely slow? Minorities? Go ahead, you have all the answers. Tell us all about civil rights.

Third, as a matter of pragmatism, not educating people is more costly to scurry than educating them.

Fourth, and most importantly, if smart kids are truly being held up by slow ones, your issue isn't with the kids, it's with the school.


S/scurry/society/

/autocorrect
 
2013-11-20 07:29:27 PM  

JoieD'Zen: ReverendJynxed: Omahawg: ReverendJynxed: Autistic Hiker: JesusJuice: netizencain: Because being called a name is a good reason to punch someone... great parenting.  I'm sure this is the message that they get in Church.

It is. If every time you act like a dick someone smacks you in the face, you'll learn not to be a dick.

That doesn't work on people with Asperger's.

Really? Do they know what hot is? Associate a specific word with a smack in the mouth enough and you'll stop saying those words. Don't call it social graces, call it survival skills.

as someone who grew up a scrawny book nerd in small town iowa who was absolutely petrified by any social interaction whatsoever....yeah, i gotta agree.  Good thing we didn't have aspies or adhd in the 70s. how did we even survive?

We didn't. This is hell.

In the 70's it was still OK to say that people were awkward or just retarded.
Btw, I was checked recently for using the word 'tranny' to describe, wait for it, a transsexual! Times change.


We can still call them freaks though right?
 
2013-11-20 07:35:07 PM  

Autistic Hiker: The law requires mainstreaming if at all possible so that the school doesn't park people they find inconvenient in a padded room and refuse to educate them. Which was pretty much what was done prior to 1975.


In this case, it's Cole's Law.

s18.postimg.org
 
2013-11-20 07:35:16 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: 1.  Aspergers.  Yes, it's a form of autism, but it's not like the kid is silently rocking in the corner.

2. "Aspergers" is quite often shorthand for "my kid is socially awkward, but I don't like to think he's anything but a precious snowflake, so let's make it Not His Fault and not require him to learn social norms".

3.  If the kid is mainstream enough to be in classes with normal kids, then he's mainstream enough to be held responsible for his actions.  If you think he should be removed from the environment, then you have to admit your kid is a tard.  You can't have it both ways.


Oh look, we have a GED in Psychiatric Disorders
 
2013-11-20 07:40:55 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: Autistic Hiker: The law requires mainstreaming if at all possible so that the school doesn't park people they find inconvenient in a padded room and refuse to educate them. Which was pretty much what was done prior to 1975.

In this case, it's Cole's Law.

[s18.postimg.org image 596x350]


funny
loves me some cole'slaw
 
2013-11-20 07:41:26 PM  

Autistic Hiker: First, the right I am talking about is enshrined in law.


As is No Child Left Behind, which is contradictory to that "right."

Second, if that right doesn't exist, then how it limited? The mentally disabled? The physically disabled? The merely slow? Minorities? Go ahead, you have all the answers. Tell us all about civil rights.

It is limited because neither the smart kids nor the tards are getting "the best education they can receive."

Third, as a matter of pragmatism, not educating people is more costly to scurry than educating them.

I never said anything about not educating them. I think we should put them in a different classroom where they can eat paste and learn as slowly as wish.

Fourth, and most importantly, if smart kids are truly being held up by slow ones, your issue isn't with the kids, it's with the school.

I never said my issue was with the kids either. Are you retarded or something? Anyway, my issue is with the farking government for forcing the schools to keep the dumb kids in with the smart kids. It doesn't help either group. We don't put 1st graders in the same classrooms as 12th graders for the same reason we shouldn't put the slow kids in with the smart kids.

Autistic Hiker: umad: I have ass-burgers so I can't help it, so I can't and shouldn't have to stop being an asshole. Have some farking compassion.

No you don't. And I frankly doubt you've ever seen full blown Asperger's, which is truly something to behold.


Like I said before, does it really matter why I'm an asshole? Why aren't you showing me some farking compassion?
 
2013-11-20 07:49:12 PM  

Autistic Hiker: umad: RexTalionis: umad: RKTeuthis: Have some farking compassion.

I don't really care if you are an asshole due to mental illness or if you are an asshole by choice. To me, you are just an asshole.

Wow, look at that asshole.

I have ass-burgers so I can't help it, so I can't and shouldn't have to stop being an asshole. Have some farking compassion.

No you don't. And I frankly doubt you've ever seen full blown Asperger's, which is truly something to behold.


I've seen something close to it, not full blown, but limited case.

It's... disquieting, to say the least.

The strangest to observe was the complete lack of being able to read other people in any way shape or form.

He was medically (i.e. not self internet) diagnosed Asperger's and had received help earlier in life and was able to hold down a job, find a woman that understood his problems, and even had children.

Their first born on the other hand was NOT receiving the help he needed until they got him into school, and by then well...

They just could not afford the help they needed earlier in their child's life, even knowing he was predisposed to the condition because of his father.

//And now I has a sad.
 
2013-11-20 07:49:32 PM  

ReverendJynxed: JoieD'Zen: ReverendJynxed: Omahawg: ReverendJynxed: Autistic Hiker: JesusJuice: netizencain: Because being called a name is a good reason to punch someone... great parenting.  I'm sure this is the message that they get in Church.

It is. If every time you act like a dick someone smacks you in the face, you'll learn not to be a dick.

That doesn't work on people with Asperger's.

Really? Do they know what hot is? Associate a specific word with a smack in the mouth enough and you'll stop saying those words. Don't call it social graces, call it survival skills.

as someone who grew up a scrawny book nerd in small town iowa who was absolutely petrified by any social interaction whatsoever....yeah, i gotta agree.  Good thing we didn't have aspies or adhd in the 70s. how did we even survive?

We didn't. This is hell.

In the 70's it was still OK to say that people were awkward or just retarded.
Btw, I was checked recently for using the word 'tranny' to describe, wait for it, a transsexual! Times change.

We can still call them freaks though right?


I'm not going to take umbrage, because it's just not getting a certain point... it's a learning disability. Autism isn't JUST social cues (although that's a big manifestation). Disciplining autistic children is tricky, because a spank/slap/punch whatever corporal punishment doesn't work well. They don't get it. The whole chain of causality and learned behavior doesn't follow the same track as with other children. Survival skills as you put it... well, they aren't completely there. Sure, they don't want to get hurt, they want to survive, but they may not understand consequence right away. And with the more nuanced human interactions, they might not ever get certain consequences and contexts. So in the case of making "rude remarks" and then getting beaten for them... autistic people's thought processes would be something like "i respond to certain people and they randomly hit me... i'd avoid them, but they keep coming up to me and talking to me. i don't like talking to them." they have so much going on in their head that they might walk into traffic because they forgot that moving cars hurt. i mean seriously. consequence and association don't stick too well for autistic people. yes, they have emotions, and yes they can be little shiatheads like the rest of us, but as a parent or instructor, you have to really go over the rules on what to do and not to do and spend a lot of time reinforcing the correct behaviors until stuff becomes unthinking and second nature. i haven't watched the video, but i'm sure there's things the kid did that brought this stuff on, and he has to be trained to avoid doing. but as a parent, you're not going to know if you don't see it. if teachers are seeing it, then they should be reporting back to the parent on things the boy is doing so he can learn not to do them. he won't magically do the right thing on his own. and it's up to the teachers to instruct the other children on what's going on with the poor guy, so they can realize that he's not just some bastard bad-mouthing them. if they don't understand that, that's the fault of the teachers.

the parents are sort of assholes for sticking up for their kids and being ignorant about aspergers and autism, but it's understandable at least. the parents aren't going to necessarily know all of these interactions or how bad or severe it is unless they're monitoring him in class frequently (which would curtain the bad behavior from the other students anyways).

the real breakdown is the school. the school is mainstreaming, so they need to be sensitive to that forced interaction. they should be watching instead of ignoring. and when problems arise, they need to be addressing the breakdown instead of defending it
 
2013-11-20 07:53:34 PM  
www.house-fr.com

This popped into my head, sorry:)
 
2013-11-20 07:53:41 PM  
We've found the Maryville of Iowa.
 
2013-11-20 07:53:45 PM  
I just find it interesting that every other story about schools lately has involved kids being suspended for making a gun motion with their finger, or drawing a picture of a gun and getting suspended for just about everything except breathing, but this principal thinks the kids should police themselves in his school.
 
2013-11-20 07:54:18 PM  
The only real solution is to keep the autistic kids out of school if they can't control themselves.  Sorry if that offends you, but maybe it's time to stop catering to the lowest common denominator.
 
2013-11-20 07:56:47 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: 1.  Aspergers.  Yes, it's a form of autism, but it's not like the kid is silently rocking in the corner.

2. "Aspergers" is quite often shorthand for "my kid is socially awkward, but I don't like to think he's anything but a precious snowflake, so let's make it Not His Fault and not require him to learn social norms".

3.  If the kid is mainstream enough to be in classes with normal kids, then he's mainstream enough to be held responsible for his actions.  If you think he should be removed from the environment, then you have to admit your kid is a tard.  You can't have it both ways.


Wow, you are hateful today.

Why do we draw perfect lines between sane and insane, retarded and normal? I mean I see some cases where the line helps serve a purpose, but as individuals we don't need to treat one another like the lines are hard and fast.

You there, with the 66 IQ, you are completely responsible for your livelihood. You should be able to earn a good living and make smart decisions.

You there, with the 65 IQ, you are not.


And you mike, you are just barely developed enough to benefit from time spent with normal kids, so as a result we expect you to perform as well as them in every respect.


Sorry BM, but the messed up need exposure to normality without deserving the bullying that perhaps could be justified at a stretch as good behavioral training for a normal kid.

My motto: Be glad you aren't more than you may be, and try to accept/forgive/ignore/help with the farked-upness of others.
 
2013-11-20 07:57:06 PM  

oldfarthenry: Sometimes a special child needs to be reminded that he ain't THAT special.


Ha!
 
2013-11-20 07:57:49 PM  

Chinchillazilla: pedobearapproved: Chinchillazilla: I have Asperger's and I agree with all of this. But punching someone just because they're an asshole isn't allowed, either.

I think a lot of punching happens due to this very reason

It's true, but parents and teachers shouldn't be condoning it, I guess is my point. At least not publicly. They're just telling kids it's fine to hit people you don't like.


It's not?
 
2013-11-20 07:59:19 PM  

SDRR: Chinchillazilla: pedobearapproved: Chinchillazilla: I have Asperger's and I agree with all of this. But punching someone just because they're an asshole isn't allowed, either.

I think a lot of punching happens due to this very reason

It's true, but parents and teachers shouldn't be condoning it, I guess is my point. At least not publicly. They're just telling kids it's fine to hit people you don't like.

It's not?


Violent retaliation isn't my first choice of responses to verbal abuse but I'll be damned if I take it off the table permanently.
 
2013-11-20 07:59:27 PM  

the801: unsolicited cock in the mouth?


Go for the UFIA.
 
2013-11-20 07:59:57 PM  

Infernalist: The only real solution is to keep the autistic kids out of school if they can't control themselves.  Sorry if that offends you, but maybe it's time to stop catering to the lowest common denominator.


Mainstreaming is difficult because conflict is likely to arise. However, autistic children DO get a lot out of mainstreaming. It really needs to be done with care and not arbitrarily. That's the correct answer. Lowest common denominator. Excellent! Teaching empathy should be a part of the school experience. Looks like we ALL could use more of that, don't you agree?
 
2013-11-20 07:59:58 PM  
However, Simmons told the station that two of the students have since apologized to Levi, saying they didn't realize how their actions had affected him.

Meanwhile, the kids involved are acting more mature about this than any of the adults in that whole sorry story.

And very likely at least 50% of the adults here on Fark.

drtfthread. But I can guess.
 
2013-11-20 08:03:35 PM  

JohnnyApocalypse: Infernalist: The only real solution is to keep the autistic kids out of school if they can't control themselves.  Sorry if that offends you, but maybe it's time to stop catering to the lowest common denominator.

Mainstreaming is difficult because conflict is likely to arise. However, autistic children DO get a lot out of mainstreaming. It really needs to be done with care and not arbitrarily. That's the correct answer. Lowest common denominator. Excellent! Teaching empathy should be a part of the school experience. Looks like we ALL could use more of that, don't you agree?


To a degree, sure.  The answer's somewhere in the middle ground.  But as a parent of three kids, if some other kid went out of his way to verbally abuse my own kids, I'm okay with him retaliating.  Kids fight.  It's not the end of the world for either one of them if someone comes home with a black eye or bloody lip because he got smart-mouthed at some other kid.  Maybe it'll teach him to control himself, and if not, then the autistic kid's parents need to determine if keeping their out of control kid in school is good for him or not.
 
2013-11-20 08:09:06 PM  

spamdog: And boy, that whotv.com article has some great comments. You can see the problem right there.

Small-town shiatheads.


knew I shouldn't have looked

looks like a whole lot of   (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)  going on

/wow
 
2013-11-20 08:13:44 PM  
It's too bad eugenics got such a bad rap, we could have avoided situations like this.
 
2013-11-20 08:17:24 PM  

Gyrfalcon: However, Simmons told the station that two of the students have since apologized to Levi, saying they didn't realize how their actions had affected him.

Meanwhile, the kids involved are acting more mature about this than any of the adults in that whole sorry story.

And very likely at least 50% of the adults here on Fark.

drtfthread. But I can guess.


Don't read it. I just finished and I think I feel emptier than I did at the start.

Lack of empathy is rather sickening.
 
2013-11-20 08:19:25 PM  

umad: Autistic Hiker: Everyone has a right to the best education they can receive.

Bullshiat. If that was true, then the smart kids wouldn't be forced to be bored out of their minds while they wait for the tards to catch up. No Child Left Behind is a misnomer. We are leaving our best and brightest behind in the name of "fairness". It is absurd.


My oldest son, who suffers from ASD, is, by far, the best and brightest. His problem is two-fold: not only does he suffer from the trappings of not being able to fully grasp social cues, but the other, "non-tard" kids that you think of as the best and brightest, are just freakin' dumb compared to him. As a result, they find him weird and bullyable.

So your answer is to take the brightest mind in his peer group and put him in a room far away from the round pegs in their nice round holes? That's not helpful to my son or society at large.
 
2013-11-20 08:23:15 PM  

Infernalist: JohnnyApocalypse: Infernalist: The only real solution is to keep the autistic kids out of school if they can't control themselves.  Sorry if that offends you, but maybe it's time to stop catering to the lowest common denominator.

Mainstreaming is difficult because conflict is likely to arise. However, autistic children DO get a lot out of mainstreaming. It really needs to be done with care and not arbitrarily. That's the correct answer. Lowest common denominator. Excellent! Teaching empathy should be a part of the school experience. Looks like we ALL could use more of that, don't you agree?

To a degree, sure.  The answer's somewhere in the middle ground.  But as a parent of three kids, if some other kid went out of his way to verbally abuse my own kids, I'm okay with him retaliating.  Kids fight.  It's not the end of the world for either one of them if someone comes home with a black eye or bloody lip because he got smart-mouthed at some other kid.  Maybe it'll teach him to control himself, and if not, then the autistic kid's parents need to determine if keeping their out of control kid in school is good for him or not.


So the autistic kid has to be locked away for calling names (which warrants a punch to the face) uncontrollably, but the other kids don't have to be locked away for calling him names because they know how to punch people in the face instead of calling names back?


That is clearly retarded of you to say. But don't worry, I won't ask that you be sequestered from society or beaten for your disability.
 
2013-11-20 08:24:04 PM  

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2013-11-20 08:25:57 PM  
Teens fight and call each other names and do horrible things pretty much constantly, and that's just normal SOP for teens.

This is a non-story the media is trying to fluff up because ZOMG ASSBURGER'S!!!!1! which is really not helping. Someone calls you a name, you pop them in the mouth, they pop you back. It's the reptile brain, literally the core of our being. Teens can't fully control it yet. You can't hold them responsible like an adult for certain things yet legally for a reason.
 
2013-11-20 08:29:09 PM  
Sounds like a town full of Farkers who think they know what goes on in other people's heads better than people themselves do.
 
2013-11-20 08:34:38 PM  
Benevolent Misanthrope:

2. "Aspergers" is quite often shorthand for "my kid is socially awkward, but I don't like to think he's anything but a precious snowflake, so let's make it Not His Fault and not require him to learn social norms".


Well...no.

No it isn't.

The fact that you believe a child with Aspergers can "learn social norms", conclusively proves that you have absolutely no idea what the fark you're talking about at all, in any way whatsoever. I suspect you're just trolling, but either way, what a perfect moment for you to simply roll over and die.
 
2013-11-20 08:37:15 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Sounds like a town full of Farkers who think they know what goes on in other people's heads better than people themselves do.


It's more along the lines of

Teens bully each other: bad


Internet bullies some teens: BAD

A moderate level of "You shouldn't do that, boy, OR ELSE." is okay from an authority figure. Parents, locals, what have you. But when the whole internet comes down it's nothing but hypocrites who like to bully other people into their way of thinking being horrible bullies to these kids. It's worse than not helping at all.

I can't get behind that kind of hate wave, especially because a large part of teenage boys' communication is headlocks and right hooks in the BEST of circumstances.
 
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