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(Washington Post)   Citizens' Stamp Advisory Committee furious with Postal Service over: a) years of operating in the red, b) terrible on-time delivery record, or c) Harry Potter stamps   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 48
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2013-11-20 03:06:00 PM
can't wait to get my tongue on the backside of that
 
2013-11-20 03:06:40 PM
Citizens' Stamp Advisory Committee furious with Postal Service over a.) years of operating in the red b.) terrible on-time delivery record c.) Harry Potter Stamps

In defense of the Stamp Advisory Committee, at least the Harry Potter stamps actually exist.
 
2013-11-20 03:07:12 PM
I'm pretty sure they've had Jesus on a stamp or two. He wasn't an American either.
 
2013-11-20 03:09:11 PM
"Harry Potter is not American. It's foreign, and it's so blatantly commercial it's off the charts,"

Unlike Yoda and Elvis and SpongeBob
 
2013-11-20 03:09:34 PM
"Harry Potter is not American. It's foreign, and it's so blatantly commercial it's off the charts," said John Hotchner, a stamp collector in Falls Church and former president of the American Philatelic Society, who served on the committee for 12 years until 2010. "The Postal Service knows what will sell, but that's not what stamps ought to be about. Things that don't sell so well are part of the American story worth a lot of money to the losers I associate with."
 
2013-11-20 03:09:36 PM
Philatelist.  I love that word.
 
2013-11-20 03:12:35 PM
"Harry Potter is not American. It's foreign, and it's so blatantly commercial it's off the charts,"

Oh. My. God. Who the hell cares?
 
2013-11-20 03:14:08 PM
Citizens' Stamp Advisory Committee furious with Postal Service over a.) years of operating in the red b.) terrible on-time delivery record c.) Harry Potter Stamps

The post office is in the red mostly because of a stupid congressional mandate that they prepay 75 years worth of retirements or somesuch, and their on-time delivery record is super impressive and stamps are incredibly cheap.

That said, Harry Potter stamps are stupid idea, and if they want to do fantasy, base the stamps on American fantasy novels, such as Game of Thrones.

(Game of Thrones stamps -- now with nudity!)
 
2013-11-20 03:16:24 PM

dabbletech: Philatelist.  I love that word.


Me too. It sounds dirty.
 
2013-11-20 03:16:40 PM
Seriously?  The Postal Service is losing billions of dollars and this guy John Hotchner  is worried that it's "too commercial"?
 
2013-11-20 03:19:17 PM

Tax Boy: (Game of Thrones stamps -- now with nudity!)


I'd buy a set.

Also, I really don't give a shiat about the Harry Potter stamps. They're fun. A lot of stamp collectors will enjoy them. Don't like it, don't buy them. The world won't end. The Citizen's Stamp Advisory Committee needs to get a life. Or as the West Wing has it, the, "There But For The Grace of God Go I Club".
 
2013-11-20 03:19:25 PM
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There's a Citizens Stamp Advisory Committee?
 
2013-11-20 03:21:08 PM
The council is so upset, that they want to see if it weighs as much as a duck.

www.matthewferrara.com
 
2013-11-20 03:21:23 PM

lockers: "Harry Potter is not American. It's foreign, and it's so blatantly commercial it's off the charts,"

Oh. My. God. Who the hell cares?


This. My thoughts word for word. I guess they should be happy they don't have more pressing things to worry about.
 
2013-11-20 03:22:50 PM

NutWrench: dabbletech: Philatelist.  I love that word.

Me too. It sounds dirty.


I always thought it sounded like "flatulence."
 
2013-11-20 03:23:12 PM
It baffles me that people take offense to this.

I will buy a sheet. I still have to send a few paper bills every month and an interesting stamp makes the task feel nicer.
 
2013-11-20 03:28:15 PM

memebot_of_doom: Seriously?  The Postal Service is losing billions of dollars and this guy John Hotchner  is worried that it's "too commercial"?


Is the Postal Service essentially a private business or am I missing something?
 
2013-11-20 03:29:21 PM
You'll finally get the chance to lick the back of Emma Watson.
 
2013-11-20 03:29:21 PM

medius: can't wait to get my tongue on the backside of that


Me either.
 
2013-11-20 03:32:05 PM
Now, in fairness, and just to throw in another perspective....

American stamps have long been associated with being recorders and transmitters of American culture. The Stamp Advisory Committee sees itself as custodian and gatekeeper for this function.

It can't be denied that this stamp really does just represent crass commercialism. Of course, there are many who would argue that it is, therefore, the perfect representative of American culture.
 
2013-11-20 03:32:58 PM
*representation
 
2013-11-20 03:33:07 PM

millwardesque: [img.fark.net image 480x588]
There's a Citizens Stamp Advisory Committee?


FROGDAMNIT!

Also subby, you can send a piece of mail 3000 miles in 48 hours for less than a 50 cents. That's a pretty impressive thing.
 
2013-11-20 03:33:13 PM
For one of the only times in its 56-year-history,

I just love stories that use a phrase like that. Too lazy to find out how many, or even approximately how many? Then pull the old standard "one of the only" out of your toolkit. I would have been embarassed to write that in high school.

/Also, I was wondering why they did away with the requirement 2 years ago that a person had to be dead for 5 years before being put on a stamp. Now it all makes sense. Yeah, I know he's a fictional character, but that's clearly a picture of Daniel Radcliffe.
 
2013-11-20 03:33:54 PM
You can get them at Harry Potter Stamps.Com
 
2013-11-20 03:34:02 PM

Hermione_Granger: medius: can't wait to get my tongue on the backside of that

Me either.


All stamps are self-adhesive now, in case you haven't mailed anything in a while, and I think you haven't.
 
2013-11-20 03:35:43 PM
Well, has to be C, since the other two are figments of subby's imagination.
 
2013-11-20 03:37:50 PM

memebot_of_doom: Seriously?  The Postal Service is losing billions of dollars and this guy John Hotchner  is worried that it's "too commercial"?


The post office is not losing billions of dollars.  The Postal Service had about a $800 million in profit last year.  Congress passed a law that said the Postal Service has to put $5.8 Billion every year into a bank account and put it on their books.  So now a $800 Million profit looks like a $5 Billion loss but only to idiots who didn't pay any attention.

Hi!
 
2013-11-20 03:48:30 PM

show me: All stamps are self-adhesive now


never hurts to lick them anyways, just to be sure
 
2013-11-20 03:54:56 PM
Stamps are a bit - admittedly only a *bit* - like money. They ought not portray crass commercialist imagery, and they ought to be representative of culture. They're *supposed* to be a little stodgy and dignified. At least Elvis made sense, given his historic, long-running impact on American culture and - you know - his being an actual American.

Harry Potter can suck it. Let's see a Philip K. Dick stamp instead!

http://www.blastr.com/2013-7-8/usps-kills-plans-sf-author-stamps-fan s- rally-make-them-happen
 
2013-11-20 03:58:28 PM
I wouldn't mind licking the back of a Hermione stamp.
 
2013-11-20 04:11:53 PM
"Harry Potter is not American. It's foreign, and it's so blatantly commercial it's off the charts," said John Hotchner, a stamp collector in Falls Church and former president of the American Philatelic Society, who served on the committee for 12 years until 2010. "The Postal Service knows what will sell, but that's not what stamps ought to be about. Things that don't sell so well are part of the American story."

Fark you, buddy. "The USPS is in the red and found a good way to raise money but but UNAMERICAN!!11!! Terrorism and witchcraft and foreigners!!!1111!!!"
 
2013-11-20 04:14:05 PM
Forever Stamps have been killing stamp sales (commemorative and otherwise) for years now. Nobody buys regular priced stamps anymore.
 
2013-11-20 04:19:33 PM
Dear CSAC,

Please DIAF and STFU.


Yours truly
 
2013-11-20 04:26:48 PM
show me Also, I was wondering why they did away with the requirement 2 years ago that a person had to be dead for 5 years before being put on a stamp. Now it all makes sense. Yeah, I know he's a fictional character, but that's clearly a picture of Daniel Radcliffe.

the USPS dropped the "dead" requirement from 10 years to 5 years exception for U.S. Presidents(instituted because people thought Walt Disney's stamp, released 18 months after HIS death, was honoring a guy who wouldn't stand the test of time)-there's been living people on US Stamps going back to 1898, after "Celebrate The Century" then the 9-11 Semi-Postal the Postal Service gave up the ghost & said it's, like Slap Shot, the spirit of the thing-thus they're honoring Luke Skywalker NOT Mark Hamill http://www.stampcommunity.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19673
 
2013-11-20 04:32:15 PM
I don't get all the fuss. We have all moved on to using owls anyway.
 
2013-11-20 04:50:31 PM
While not directly related to the outrage, I did find this tidbit interesting:

[T]he committee changed its charter to allow corporate advertising on stamps, as long as it is not featured as the main element....

Wonder who's going to be the first to sponsor a stamp?
 
2013-11-20 05:03:43 PM
All I know is that I'm gonna have me lots of fun lickin' them Hermione, Luna, and Ginny stamps. hurrhurrrhurrr....
 
2013-11-20 05:22:00 PM
The postal services consistently delivers mail to and from me in a reliable, timely manner.
 
2013-11-20 05:37:16 PM

lennavan: memebot_of_doom: Seriously?  The Postal Service is losing billions of dollars and this guy John Hotchner  is worried that it's "too commercial"?

The post office is not losing billions of dollars.  The Postal Service had about a $800 million in profit last year.  Congress passed a law that said the Postal Service has to put $5.8 Billion every year into a bank account and put it on their books.  So now a $800 Million profit looks like a $5 Billion loss but only to idiots who didn't pay any attention.

Hi!


That's it, in a nutshell. They, unlike any other US agency, must pre-fund their retirement obligations 100%. They're also one of the few agencies that are constitutionally mandated and can't be dissolved by a simple vote in Congress. Coincidence?

As for Harry Potter - Regardless of where they came from, half the United States was reading the books together for a few years. Just because our book club had furriners in it doesn't mean it wasn't a great book club.
 
2013-11-20 05:40:09 PM
You know who else were not American?

rlv.zcache.com
 
2013-11-20 05:41:07 PM

optikeye: You know who else were not American?

[rlv.zcache.com image 512x512]


bullshiat.  jesus was born in god country
 
2013-11-20 05:44:45 PM

medius: optikeye: You know who else were not American?

[rlv.zcache.com image 512x512]

bullshiat.  jesus was born in god country


media.npr.org

Jesus was all-American
 
2013-11-20 05:53:03 PM

show me: Hermione_Granger: medius: can't wait to get my tongue on the backside of that

Me either.

All stamps are self-adhesive now, in case you haven't mailed anything in a while, and I think you haven't.


Hey, he said tongue and backside, I thought I'd speak up.

What was that about muggle stamps? Adhesive you say?
 
2013-11-20 05:54:59 PM

Hermione_Granger: self-adhesive


i make my own glue too
 
2013-11-20 08:48:23 PM

lennavan: memebot_of_doom: Seriously?  The Postal Service is losing billions of dollars and this guy John Hotchner  is worried that it's "too commercial"?

The post office is not losing billions of dollars.  The Postal Service had about a $800 million in profit last year.  Congress passed a law that said the Postal Service has to put $5.8 Billion every year into a bank account and put it on their books.  So now a $800 Million profit looks like a $5 Billion loss but only to idiots who didn't pay any attention.



The article states that they're losing $5B a year. I have no idea how their accounting works.  Nevertheless revenue is revenue and it's absurd to deny a potential source for such a ridiculous reason.

Hi!

Hi what?
 
2013-11-21 04:33:14 AM
"but that's not what stamps ought to be about."

About? It's an expensive sticker you have to slap on an envelope to get it to go through the mail.
 
2013-11-21 04:38:30 AM

axeeugene: Stamps are a bit - admittedly only a *bit* - like money. They ought not portray crass commercialist imagery, and they ought to be representative of culture. They're *supposed* to be a little stodgy and dignified. At least Elvis made sense, given his historic, long-running impact on American culture and - you know - his being an actual American.

Harry Potter can suck it. Let's see a Philip K. Dick stamp instead!

http://www.blastr.com/2013-7-8/usps-kills-plans-sf-author-stamps-fan s- rally-make-them-happen


I'd vote for that,if there was a way to.
 
2013-11-21 09:34:40 AM

memebot_of_doom: lennavan: memebot_of_doom: Seriously?  The Postal Service is losing billions of dollars and this guy John Hotchner  is worried that it's "too commercial"?

The post office is not losing billions of dollars.  The Postal Service had about a $800 million in profit last year.  Congress passed a law that said the Postal Service has to put $5.8 Billion every year into a bank account and put it on their books.  So now a $800 Million profit looks like a $5 Billion loss but only to idiots who didn't pay any attention.


The article states that they're losing $5B a year. I have no idea how their accounting works.  Nevertheless revenue is revenue and it's absurd to deny a potential source for such a ridiculous reason.

Hi!

Hi what?


I know what the article says.  This is that moment where you hopefully learn you can't trust what you read in the news and you should go digging deeper for the truth.  I know it seems like a silly irrelevant detail to you but it's kinda a big deal.  You see the Postal Service is running an $800 million profit.  Yet because of a silly accounting trick passed by Congress, it appears as though the Postal Service is running a $5 billion deficit.  So now a lot of people in the country think it's running a huge deficit and eventually that's going to be used to get rid of it entirely -- even though it's wildly profitable.

You gotta pay attention to these things.
 
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