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(USA Today)   Remember how the main goal of the catastrophic failure that is Obamacare was to slow the rate of healthcare spending in this country? Well a new study show that since its passage, healthcare spending has risen at..uhh the lowest rate in over 50 years   (usatoday.com) divider line 138
    More: Spiffy, obamacare, health spending, Jason Furman, cost reduction, Council of Economic Advisers, passage, health care spending, CARE Act  
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2013-11-20 01:59:51 PM  
 
2013-11-20 02:56:57 PM  
Good.
 
2013-11-20 03:05:14 PM  
Hopefully the GOP will do something to stop this disaster.
 
2013-11-20 03:05:18 PM  
Whar Obamacare tab? Whar?
 
2013-11-20 03:06:09 PM  
This explains the right wing propaganda machine catapulting into overdrive.
 
2013-11-20 03:07:15 PM  
But policies doesn't go action until 2014... so I'll wait for the 2018 report
 
2013-11-20 03:08:00 PM  

gilgigamesh: This explains the right wing propaganda machine catapulting into overdrive.


What I don't understand is the left wing machine declaring everything is a disaster.

I'm looking at you Bill Clinton.
 
2013-11-20 03:08:08 PM  

gilgigamesh: This explains the right wing propaganda machine catapulting into overdrive.


It must be confusing and frustrating to constantly be on the wrong side of history. I do at least understand why they must always be angry.
 
2013-11-20 03:09:26 PM  

netizencain: But policies doesn't go action until 2014... so I'll wait for the 2018 report


AMERICA HAS NO TIME TO BE PATIENT AND WAIT FOR THE RESULTS OF ACADEMIC STUDIES. WE MUST NOT ALLOW OUR COUNTRY TO BE DESTROYED BY POLICIES THAT HAVE YET TO TAKE EFFECT!
 
2013-11-20 03:09:55 PM  

netizencain: But policies doesn't go action until 2014... so I'll wait for the 2018 report




They've been rolling in the changes for years. 2014 is just the final implementation.
 
2013-11-20 03:09:59 PM  
NO BECAUSE WEBSITE
 
2013-11-20 03:10:02 PM  

netizencain: But policies doesn't go action until 2014


Many ACA policies have already gone into effect, which has helped bend the cost curve.

26 in 2010
18 in 2011
11 in 2012
11 in 2013 to date

Link
 
2013-11-20 03:11:04 PM  
Someone say "BUT WEBSITE".
 
2013-11-20 03:12:18 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: gilgigamesh: This explains the right wing propaganda machine catapulting into overdrive.

What I don't understand is the left wing machine declaring everything is a disaster.

I'm looking at you Bill Clinton.


You don't think the Magic Clenis has an ego?
 
2013-11-20 03:12:23 PM  

StopLurkListen: Someone say "BUT WEBSITE".


haha, you like butt websites.
 
2013-11-20 03:12:32 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: netizencain: But policies doesn't go action until 2014

Many ACA policies have already gone into effect, which has helped bend the cost curve.

26 in 2010
18 in 2011
11 in 2012
11 in 2013 to date

Link


good to know... thanks
 
2013-11-20 03:13:23 PM  
Of course spending is down.

1. Everybody's insurance got cancelled
2. Every insurance website is down so nobody CAN pay for new insurance.
 
2013-11-20 03:13:52 PM  
corinawrites.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-11-20 03:14:03 PM  
But Fox, Rush, Bojangles and Sloth have all told me it is a disaster.
 
2013-11-20 03:14:15 PM  
You know something is good for the country based on how bad the right wing says it is for the country.
 
2013-11-20 03:14:36 PM  
and between young people staying on their parents insurance, Medicaid expansion, and the state exchanges exceeding their enrollment goals, we're talking about millions of people with insurance they may not have had otherwise, despite the problems.

farking media twits will be changing their tune a couple months without so much as a hint of shame.
 
2013-11-20 03:14:40 PM  

StopLurkListen: Someone say "BUT WEBSITE".


Say "But website" one more time...
 
2013-11-20 03:14:58 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Whar Obamacare tab? Whar?


At this point, I have to agree, we need one for the next year or so....

/popcorn futures would go through the roof
 
2013-11-20 03:15:00 PM  

netizencain: But policies doesn't go action until 2014... so I'll wait for the 2018 report


Do you think that the exchanges will cause healthcare spending to go UP?

I'd like to see the rationale behind that thinking.
 
2013-11-20 03:16:13 PM  
The website is buggy, and some people had to replace their scam insurance with cheaper insurance with better coverage, so we should tear it all down and replace it with nothing.
 
2013-11-20 03:16:30 PM  

Tricky Chicken: Of course spending is down.

1. Everybody's insurance got cancelled
2. Every insurance website is down so nobody CAN pay for new insurance.



3. Death Panels killed all the sick people
 
2013-11-20 03:16:32 PM  

Tricky Chicken: Of course spending is down.

1. Everybody's insurance got cancelled
2. Every insurance website is down so nobody CAN pay for new insurance.


Oh come on. You can troll better than this!
 
2013-11-20 03:16:35 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: netizencain: But policies doesn't go action until 2014... so I'll wait for the 2018 report

Do you think that the exchanges will cause healthcare spending to go UP?

I'd like to see the rationale behind that thinking.


Many uninsured people put off on getting health care until they are insured because they can't afford that care unless insurance helps defray the cost.
 
2013-11-20 03:16:51 PM  
GOP reaction

www.floridadash.com
 
2013-11-20 03:17:56 PM  
I thought the main goal was to provide access to affordable insurance to the people of the United States?

Cost cutting was like twelfth on the list of things that would happen because we're finally doing something, wasn't it?
 
2013-11-20 03:19:01 PM  
It's important not to compare apples with potatoes.
 
2013-11-20 03:20:29 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: I thought the main goal was to provide access to affordable insurance to the people of the United States?

Cost cutting was like twelfth on the list of things that would happen because we're finally doing something, wasn't it?


Not for conservatives, who dominate the media in this country. Their only gauge for whether something is successful is whether less money is being spent to get the same thing.
 
2013-11-20 03:21:39 PM  
Darth_Lukecash


You think Clinton is a liberal?

AHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH........

/no.
 
2013-11-20 03:21:55 PM  
So...where's the thousand years of darkness I was so gleefully promised?

And all those nifty "death panels", when are those starting up?

Has BamBam declared himself Emperor yet?
 
2013-11-20 03:22:05 PM  
THIS IS NOT TRIVIAL ENOUGH TO WARRANT MY ATTENTION
 
2013-11-20 03:25:26 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Hopefully the GOP will do something to stop this disaster.


Tax cuts for the wealthy!
 
2013-11-20 03:27:27 PM  
The greatest generation is dying off and the boomers haven't started kicking it yet. The downturn was inevitable.

That being said, ha ha ha. How does it taste, DeMint? You loving this, Boehner? How do you like Obama and ACA now, McConnell?
 
2013-11-20 03:28:55 PM  

bdub77: Lando Lincoln: Hopefully the GOP will do something to stop this disaster.

Tax cuts for the wealthy!


SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING!!!!

/Except the WWII memorial
 
2013-11-20 03:29:03 PM  

Serious Black: cameroncrazy1984: netizencain: But policies doesn't go action until 2014... so I'll wait for the 2018 report

Do you think that the exchanges will cause healthcare spending to go UP?

I'd like to see the rationale behind that thinking.

Many uninsured people put off on getting health care until they are insured because they can't afford that care unless insurance helps defray the cost.


And then when they get heatlhcare and can't afford to pay for it because they don't have insurance, do you think costs go up or down?
 
2013-11-20 03:29:41 PM  
FTA: "... a new report from the White House Council on Economic Advisers shows."

I'll just wait for a credible source like Hannity before I comment.
 
2013-11-20 03:30:17 PM  

Kittypie070: So...where's the thousand years of darkness I was so gleefully promised?

And all those nifty "death panels", when are those starting up?

Has BamBam declared himself Emperor yet?


I've been trying to apply to be on a death panel for months now and no one is returning my calls. I'm not a psychopath or anything, I just think I'd be good at being on death panels. I'll start with that old woman on the cell phone who cut me off in traffic this morning.
 
2013-11-20 03:32:36 PM  

ikanreed: StopLurkListen: Someone say "BUT WEBSITE".

haha, you like butt websites.


What, and you don't?
 
2013-11-20 03:32:52 PM  
Yeah but my health care costs are non-zero, so ObamaCare is still a failure.

Also, my car won't start, why didn't Obama think of that?
 
2013-11-20 03:33:06 PM  

Kittypie070: So...where's the thousand years of darkness I was so gleefully promised?

And all those nifty "death panels", when are those starting up?

Has BamBam declared himself Emperor yet?


Soon. Soon we shall begin Phase 3.

Until then, enjoy the delightful antics of your favorite tv sitcom family, the Palins!
 
2013-11-20 03:34:13 PM  

lennavan: Yeah but my health care costs are non-zero, so ObamaCare is still a failure.

Also, my car won't start, why didn't Obama think of that?


My doctor retired, and Obama assured me the federal government would force him to continue working.
 
2013-11-20 03:34:17 PM  
I was going to say this either way. I think you can't put too much on during the law is starting to apply. The real poof will be the next 3 years when the law is mostly in effect.
 
2013-11-20 03:35:43 PM  

Tricky Chicken: Of course spending is down.

1. Everybody's insurance got cancelled
2. Every insurance website is down so nobody CAN pay for new insurance.


Chicken, I served with Mike_Lowell. I knew Mike_Lowell. Mike_Lowell is a friend of mine. Chicken, you're no Mike_Lowell.
 
2013-11-20 03:38:43 PM  

Corvus: I was going to say this either way. I think you can't put too much on during the law is starting to apply. The real poof will be the next 3 years when the law is mostly in effect.


True, but that isn't going to stop people who don't live in the fact-based world (i.e. Republican voters) from screaming incessantly about how it's driving up costs, so this analysis is necessary at least to counter the Derp.
 
2013-11-20 03:38:48 PM  

Girl Sailor: I've been trying to apply to be on a death panel for months now and no one is returning my calls. I'm not a psychopath or anything, I just think I'd be good at being on death panels. I'll start with that old woman on the cell phone who cut me off in traffic this morning.


OT, but I just thought I'd let you know I think your profile pic is hot:
static.flickr.com
 
2013-11-20 03:40:00 PM  
I wonder what a catastrophic failure looks like... hmm... ?
 
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