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(The Daily Caller)   Not news: Tennessee man arrested. News: For picking up his kids from school. Fark: Because he walked there   (dailycaller.com) divider line 221
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2013-11-20 12:12:08 PM  
www.prisonflicks.com

"You're trying to be difficult," insisted Aytes.
 
2013-11-20 12:17:50 PM  
Jim Howe, father of two children enrolled in South Cumberland Elementary in Crossville, Tennessee, arrived at the school on foot at dismissal time: 2:00 PM. But a new school policy states that students may only leave at 2:00 PM if their parents are picking them up in cars. Walkers must wait until 2:35 PM.

Good way to punish non-lazy people.
"You want to walk home? F*ck you. You gotta wait 35 minutes until everyone else has left and is already home"
 
2013-11-20 12:19:58 PM  
This is a seriously WTF moment...
 
2013-11-20 12:22:48 PM  
If he had been at home drunk on the couch like a real father his kids would have rode the bus like god intended and this would never have happened.
 
2013-11-20 12:23:13 PM  
Is he their legal guardian?  If so, I would think that detaining them would be considered kidnapping if one of us did that.
 
2013-11-20 12:24:51 PM  

kid_icarus: If he had been at home drunk on the couch like a real father his kids would have rode the bus like god intended and this would never have happened.

 
2013-11-20 12:26:17 PM  
The important thing to remember is to treat all school officials like the petty demagogues that they are.  Their simple minded rules must be followed and Barney Fife's authority must be respected at all times.  Grovelling a little in their presence is not absolutely required, but is encouraged.

And they wonder why people want to shoot them.
 
2013-11-20 12:27:06 PM  
So this is a small government state or a big government state?

THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!
 
2013-11-20 12:30:00 PM  
www.sitcomsonline.com
 
2013-11-20 12:31:35 PM  
Please sue that school and the power trip rent a cop into the poor house.
 
2013-11-20 12:31:48 PM  
img.fark.net

Pick up that can, citizen!
 
2013-11-20 12:31:54 PM  
Go be skinny/healthy somewhere else!!!
 
2013-11-20 12:33:32 PM  
Schools are a outdated concept that need to be abolished.  Same with police.  And the military.


/and america
 
2013-11-20 12:33:38 PM  
You think he's already decided how he's going to spend all the money he wins?
 
2013-11-20 12:33:43 PM  
"The resource officers are there to enforce the law," said Cumberland County Sheriff Butch Burgess in a statement.

As opposed to, say, a new policy applicable to one school.
 
2013-11-20 12:37:00 PM  
Hey Bubba .. this ain't a good story unless it involves a good tasseling, mm-kay?
 
2013-11-20 12:37:03 PM  
Oh Lord.  I can't begin to catalog the number of things wrong with this.

Well, I can begin to catalog it.

1) the cryptofascist "resource officer" title.  He's a police officer assigned to the school; call him that.
2) the assumption that most children will be picked up by their parents in a car. Onion on my belt time - as a kid in the 70s, NOBODY did that unless they had to go to a doctor's appointment or something similar. Kids in the immediate neighborhood walked; kids in outlying areas took a bus.
3) if you're really worried about the safety of pedestrians, then lock the parking lot down. School lets out at 2:00.  So no cars allowed in the lot after 1:55, and no cars allowed out of the lot before 2:20.  If you can't get in the lot before 1:55, or there are no parking places available, then you have to clear out of the reduced-speed zone around the school and park on some side street until 2:20.
 
2013-11-20 12:37:14 PM  
And since he's about to OWN that daycare center, he can change the policy.
 
2013-11-20 12:37:51 PM  

basemetal: Is he their legal guardian?  If so, I would think that detaining them would be considered kidnapping if one of us did that.


Ah, but the school has in loco parentis responsibility on school days from the time the child leave the home until the child enters the home, so the father loses all parental prvivileges at that time.
 
2013-11-20 12:38:00 PM  
I love the comments:

docdave88 • 2 hours ago

Yo sheriff. You are the luckiest man in Amerika today.

Why?

Because that wasn't me coming to get my kid.

You see sheriff, I would have absolutely no qualms about putting two 185 grain jacketed hollow points into  ANYONE trying to keep me from my kids.

But, you got by with it. Have a beer. Celebrate your victory.

Just be sure when you come to knock on my door in the middle of the night to be in full armor.

Welcome to Obama's Amerika. Live it. Love it. You elected it. You deserve it
 
2013-11-20 12:38:01 PM  
The article confirms what the headline asserted:  Tennessee.  WTF, Tennessee.  WTF.
 
2013-11-20 12:38:09 PM  

orclover: Schools are a outdated concept that need to be abolished.  Same with police.  And the military.


/and america


Sweet!  I'm totally an anarchist too!

img.fark.net

Send me a tweet and will meet up at Starbuck's to swap grievances after my Pilates!
 
2013-11-20 12:38:12 PM  
It's worth watching the video. The father is being perfectly reasonable, the cop is the one who gets more and more irritated until he declares "I'm not listening to this anymore" and arrests the guy. The father commits no crime beyond not knuckling under to the cop.

But a school official blindly following the letter of a policy even when it shouldn't apply? That never happens...
 
2013-11-20 12:39:10 PM  
There aren't many things that would easily push me into losing my shiat and trying to beat the crap out of a cop, but that tops the list.

If everything went down exactly as the video implies and if this were a just world, the officer and school officials responsible would have been beaten within an inch of there lives and the beating would be ruled justifiable force in the prevention of a kidnapping.
 
2013-11-20 12:39:41 PM  
"The resource officers are there to enforce the law," said Cumberland County Sheriff Butch Burgess in a statement.

I'm very curious about what law the father was breaking.
 
2013-11-20 12:40:21 PM  
The result of car dependency. Parents idling in cars waiting to pick up kids is disgusting.
 
2013-11-20 12:40:36 PM  
Why do they make kids walking alone wait 30 minutes? Do they want to make sure everyone else is gone so it's easier for someone to abduct them?
 
2013-11-20 12:41:24 PM  
This is my best friends ex husband, and father of her oldest daughter. They share custody. This is on FARK! Holy shiat!
 
2013-11-20 12:41:38 PM  

PirateKing: It's worth watching the video. The father is being perfectly reasonable, the cop is the one who gets more and more irritated until he declares "I'm not listening to this anymore" and arrests the guy. The father commits no crime beyond not knuckling under to the cop.

But a school official blindly following the letter of a policy even when it shouldn't apply? That never happens...


Yup. The charge is "disorderly conduct" but the video shows that when the officer says he's under arrest the guy says okay and puts his hands behind his back. That's about as orderly as it gets. This school district/deputy/sheriff's dept is screwed.
 
2013-11-20 12:41:46 PM  
I'm just amazed a school would be allowed to blatantly not allow a child to leave in the care of their parent. Can't a parent come to a school at any time and pick up their child, for any reason? Doctors, family events, etc.?

In fact it almost sounds more dangerous to pick up your child in a car at this school if traffic is as bad as the article reports.
 
2013-11-20 12:43:22 PM  
Disorderly? Really? And the elected Sheriff supports this deputy's actions? Sure ok yeaaa

http://law.justia.com/codes/tennessee/2010/title-39/chapter-17/part- 3/ 39-17-305
2010 Tennessee Code
Title 39 - Criminal Offenses
Chapter 17 - Offenses Against Public Health, Safety and Welfare 
Part 3 - Disorderly Conduct and Riots 
39-17-305 - Disorderly conduct.
 a)A person commits an offense who, in a public place and with intent to cause public annoyance or alarm:
     (1)Engages in fighting or in violent or threatening behavior;
     (2)Refuses to obey an official order to disperse issued to maintain public safety in dangerous proximity to a fire, hazard or other emergency; or
     (3)Creates a hazardous or physically offensive condition by any act that serves no legitimate purpose.
(b)A person also violates this section who makes unreasonable noise that prevents others from carrying on lawful activities.
(c)A violation of this section is a Class C misdemeanor.
 
2013-11-20 12:43:22 PM  
And here's some local coverage so you don't have to click on daily caller.
 
2013-11-20 12:43:22 PM  

PirateKing: It's worth watching the video. The father is being perfectly reasonable, the cop is the one who gets more and more irritated until he declares "I'm not listening to this anymore" and arrests the guy. The father commits no crime beyond not knuckling under to the cop.

But a school official blindly following the letter of a policy even when it shouldn't apply? That never happens...


The cop threw out all of the "cover your ass" buzzwords, too: "you're disorderly", threatening the person making the video, etc.  It's like every bad cop cliche.  He was in the wrong, he knew it, but goddammit he was not going to have is author-i-tay questioned.
 
2013-11-20 12:43:44 PM  

Target Builder: "The resource officers are there to enforce the law," said Cumberland County Sheriff Butch Burgess in a statement.

I'm very curious about what law the father was breaking.


according to the article, he was being " disorderly."
 
2013-11-20 12:44:11 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: basemetal: Is he their legal guardian?  If so, I would think that detaining them would be considered kidnapping if one of us did that.

Ah, but the school has in loco parentis responsibility on school days from the time the child leave the home until the child enters the home, so the father loses all parental prvivileges at that time.


Bullshait

1/10
 
2013-11-20 12:44:13 PM  

Cobblestone Flag: I love the comments:

docdave88 • 2 hours ago

Yo sheriff. You are the luckiest man in Amerika today.

Why?

Because that wasn't me coming to get my kid.

You see sheriff, I would have absolutely no qualms about putting two 185 grain jacketed hollow points into  ANYONE trying to keep me from my kids.

But, you got by with it. Have a beer. Celebrate your victory.

Just be sure when you come to knock on my door in the middle of the night to be in full armor.

Welcome to Obama's Amerika. Live it. Love it. You elected it. You deserve it


Yeah, these comments are absolutely insane. Full of lunatics claiming this is somehow Obama's fault instead of a power tripping Tennessee sheriff's deputy (who I'd bet thousands of dollars voted Republican) who thinks he can arrest anyone he wants by saying the "disorderly" magic word over and over again.
 
2013-11-20 12:45:31 PM  
Considering they should be encouraging kids to walk home, they should release the walkers first and then the car riders after.  Considering the wife recorded the whole thing, it does seem a bit attention-whory in that he walked in the door hoping for this outcome.  I'd love to know what action he took prior to staging his protest.
 
2013-11-20 12:46:27 PM  

robbiex0r: The result of car dependency. Parents idling in cars waiting to pick up kids is disgusting.


To be fair, it's a very rural area and looks like most houses are at least a mile away.
 
2013-11-20 12:46:46 PM  
Please be an isolated incident because some school security guard has a robocop complex.  If not then, USA what is the matter with you?
 
2013-11-20 12:46:50 PM  

Walker: Jim Howe, father of two children enrolled in South Cumberland Elementary in Crossville, Tennessee, arrived at the school on foot at dismissal time: 2:00 PM. But a new school policy states that students may only leave at 2:00 PM if their parents are picking them up in cars. Walkers must wait until 2:35 PM.

Good way to punish non-lazy people.
"You want to walk home? F*ck you. You gotta wait 35 minutes until everyone else has left and is already home"


Really!  Let the walkers go first.Let the drivers sit on their as*es in the comfort of their own cars 35 minutes later.  I'm glad I don't have any kids because after all of the school derp I've been reading lately I'd probably lose it one day and get arrested.
 
2013-11-20 12:47:08 PM  
No reading of rights... hell the dad basically had to ask to be searched.  Fire the police officer.  Fire the principal for not handling the problem as well.  The principle could have put out the fire long before it became an issue.

However, I can see the school overreacting about kids walking.... traffic around schools is a nightmare.  My kids' school locked down the side entrance after Sandy Hook... now all the parents have to go through a single gate to pick up their kids.  Parents that don't want to wait jaywalk and cut through traffic on foot - really farking dangerous.  And because there is zero busing, everyone drives.  It's a nightmare.
 
2013-11-20 12:47:17 PM  
Lawsuit in 3-2-1
 
2013-11-20 12:48:19 PM  

kobrakai: And here's some local coverage so you don't have to click on daily caller.


From the link...

"Cumberland County Sheriff Butch Burgess says he hasn't seen the video and doesn't need to, because it won't tell the whole story. He says Aytes was just doing his job."

Wow. That's some fine police work there Lou.

"On the other hand, the school system needs to realize you can't make a black and white law," [The Sheriff] said.

And on the other hand laws are made in the state legislature, not by the school board.
 
2013-11-20 12:49:42 PM  
Actually, I'd give the cop a choice. I get to beat your ass in court and make you look like a POS in the local paper, and it will go viral.
Or: And think long about this.
We film me kicking you in then balls as hard as possible for a youtube video.
 
2013-11-20 12:50:03 PM  
Wow the level of derp in TFAs comments is at 11. Agreed that the situation is beyond stupid but the tea party brigade has gone over the top
 
2013-11-20 12:50:16 PM  

Cold_Sassy: Walker: Jim Howe, father of two children enrolled in South Cumberland Elementary in Crossville, Tennessee, arrived at the school on foot at dismissal time: 2:00 PM. But a new school policy states that students may only leave at 2:00 PM if their parents are picking them up in cars. Walkers must wait until 2:35 PM.

Good way to punish non-lazy people.
"You want to walk home? F*ck you. You gotta wait 35 minutes until everyone else has left and is already home"

Really!  Let the walkers go first.Let the drivers sit on their as*es in the comfort of their own cars 35 minutes later.  I'm glad I don't have any kids because after all of the school derp I've been reading lately I'd probably lose it one day and get arrested.


Or not lose it, remain calm, and still get arrested
 
2013-11-20 12:51:49 PM  

Cobblestone Flag: I love the comments:

docdave88 • 2 hours ago

Yo sheriff. You are the luckiest man in Amerika today.

Why?

Because that wasn't me coming to get my kid.

You see sheriff, I would have absolutely no qualms about putting two 185 grain jacketed hollow points into  ANYONE trying to keep me from my kids.

But, you got by with it. Have a beer. Celebrate your victory.

Just be sure when you come to knock on my door in the middle of the night to be in full armor.

Welcome to Obama's Amerika. Live it. Love it. You elected it. You deserve it


/DAMNATION!!!!  (was just about to post the exact comment)

i1168.photobucket.com

/and why do get the distinct impression that it won't be long before ol' docdave88 is the subject of a news report?
 
2013-11-20 12:51:58 PM  
Yeah, State owes Howe $$$$ in 3 - 2 - 1...
 
2013-11-20 12:52:16 PM  

Target Builder: "The resource officers are there to enforce the law," said Cumberland County Sheriff Butch Burgess in a statement.

I'm very curious about what law the father was breaking.


My guess is Disorderly Conduct, which is the a euphemism for "anything you do the cop doesn't like."
 
2013-11-20 12:52:19 PM  
Petty little people with petty little power.
 
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