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2013-11-20 12:47:12 PM
t3.gstatic.com
 
2013-11-20 12:48:12 PM
Holy shiat.. He's the very definition of a "problem".. He really should never be allowed outside of jail again.

and ordered not to have contact with anyone under the age of 18.

Yeah sure, because it worked out so well the first time he was ordered that.. fark this guy..
 
2013-11-20 12:49:20 PM
The two had been involved in a sexual relationship for approximately one month and had sexual encounters seven times since.

Wallace was charged with seven counts of rape. He was arraigned and held on $140,000 cash bail and ordered not to have contact with anyone under the age of 18.


Meanwhile a hot female teacher has sex with a 13-year-old boy 7 times, doesn't get charged with rape,  and just gets a slap on the risk, if that.

Nope, no double standards here.
 
2013-11-20 12:50:36 PM
Can we just make him red handed with other red bits through the judicious usage of sharp-bladed instruments?
 
2013-11-20 12:52:38 PM
The 16 year old was turned over to the custody of his parents.

What better way to find out your son is gay than when he's being turned over to you by the cops after having sex with a 49 year old dude in the back of a car.
 
2013-11-20 12:53:20 PM

Walker: The two had been involved in a sexual relationship for approximately one month and had sexual encounters seven times since.

Wallace was charged with seven counts of rape. He was arraigned and held on $140,000 cash bail and ordered not to have contact with anyone under the age of 18.

Meanwhile a hot female teacher has sex with a 13-year-old boy 7 times, doesn't get charged with rape,  and just gets a slap on the risk, if that.

Nope, no double standards here.


Only slap a risk from a safe distance.
 
2013-11-20 12:53:53 PM
i2.mirror.co.uk
 
2013-11-20 12:54:37 PM
I'm really concerned for the 16 year old's parents.  Even assuming they're good enough to not make homosexuality an issue, the kid chose this:

media.philly.com

Why, son?!!! Why?!!!
 
2013-11-20 12:56:35 PM
May I suggest a solution?

i.lv3.hbo.com
 
2013-11-20 12:56:46 PM

UsikFark: Walker: The two had been involved in a sexual relationship for approximately one month and had sexual encounters seven times since.

Wallace was charged with seven counts of rape. He was arraigned and held on $140,000 cash bail and ordered not to have contact with anyone under the age of 18.

Meanwhile a hot female teacher has sex with a 13-year-old boy 7 times, doesn't get charged with rape,  and just gets a slap on the risk, if that.

Nope, no double standards here.

Only slap a risk from a safe distance.


Oops, I meant wrist. Trying to eat, type, and get ready for a meeting all at the same time.
 
2013-11-20 12:59:44 PM
So is that 7 counts of rape... I thought that you couldn't rape the willing.
 
2013-11-20 01:00:59 PM
I think the parents should be charged with something also.

You son was caught exploiting himself at 9:40pm with another man, in public location. To top it all off, they met on a dating website, which I am pretty damn sure you have to be 18yo to subscribe. They clearly are not monitoring their sons activities.

Negligence.
 
2013-11-20 01:01:07 PM

lennavan: The 16 year old was turned over to the custody of his parents.

What better way to find out your son is gay than when he's being turned over to you by the cops after having sex with a 49 year old dude in the back of a car.


At what point is the 16 year old no longer considered gay, rather as one with some mental issues? If it was a 49 year old woman he met on the Internet, wouldn't that be just as sick? A 16 yr old girl and this dude? I have nothing against finding fun on a dating site, but this isn't healthy behavior.
 
2013-11-20 01:04:25 PM
Not rape.
 
2013-11-20 01:04:48 PM
While it is still wrong for adults to have sex with kids, technically, this isn't pedophilia.  This guy is a ephebophile which is an adult who is attracted to kids who have just recently gone through puberty, normally around 15 to 16 years of age, but haven't reached fullmaturity.  It's sick, but in a different way.

Being sexually attracted to someone whose body is sending off sexual signals is understandable, but in this case, there is a clear moral boundary, which unlike most sexual moral boundaries, actually has a pretty good reason for existing.  An adult, because of their experiences, and knowledge of human behavior, has an unfair advantage on a youth, in that he can manipulate, and control his junior partner with all kinds of mind games that he may have in his
arsenal.  It really isn't fair to a teenage kid to be preyed on by an adult.

On the other hand, we are also getting close to the big fuzzy line that society has drawn in the ground.  There really isn't anything magical about an 18th birthday that makes a child better able to fend off predatory behavior, or to protect oneself from mind games.  That said, you still have to draw that line somewhere, and 18 seems a good place.
 
2013-11-20 01:07:39 PM

jusbcuz80: So is that 7 counts of rape... I thought that you couldn't rape the willing.


You can't be willing until you reach the legally stipulated age
 
2013-11-20 01:07:48 PM

Some Coke Drinking Guy: While it is still wrong for adults to have sex with kids, technically, this isn't pedophilia.  This guy is a ephebophile which is an adult who is attracted to kids who have just recently gone through puberty, normally around 15 to 16 years of age, but haven't reached fullmaturity.  It's sick, but in a different way.

Being sexually attracted to someone whose body is sending off sexual signals is understandable, but in this case, there is a clear moral boundary, which unlike most sexual moral boundaries, actually has a pretty good reason for existing.  An adult, because of their experiences, and knowledge of human behavior, has an unfair advantage on a youth, in that he can manipulate, and control his junior partner with all kinds of mind games that he may have in hisarsenal.  It really isn't fair to a teenage kid to be preyed on by an adult.

On the other hand, we are also getting close to the big fuzzy line that society has drawn in the ground.  There really isn't anything magical about an 18th birthday that makes a child better able to fend off predatory behavior, or to protect oneself from mind games.  That said, you still have to draw that line somewhere, and 18 seems a good place.


How about not using age at all to draw the line.
 
2013-11-20 01:16:22 PM

Pangit: I think the parents should be charged with something also.

You son was caught exploiting himself at 9:40pm with another man, in public location. To top it all off, they met on a dating website, which I am pretty damn sure you have to be 18yo to subscribe. They clearly are not monitoring their sons activities.

Negligence.


I don't have kids but I don't pretend it's easy to raise children. And dating website? For all we know it could have been a posting on Craigslist or Backpage. This is all on the sex offender and trying to blame the parents on this is the wrong focus.
 
2013-11-20 01:17:51 PM

Russ1642: Some Coke Drinking Guy: While it is still wrong for adults to have sex with kids, technically, this isn't pedophilia.  This guy is a ephebophile which is an adult who is attracted to kids who have just recently gone through puberty, normally around 15 to 16 years of age, but haven't reached fullmaturity.  It's sick, but in a different way.

Being sexually attracted to someone whose body is sending off sexual signals is understandable, but in this case, there is a clear moral boundary, which unlike most sexual moral boundaries, actually has a pretty good reason for existing.  An adult, because of their experiences, and knowledge of human behavior, has an unfair advantage on a youth, in that he can manipulate, and control his junior partner with all kinds of mind games that he may have in hisarsenal.  It really isn't fair to a teenage kid to be preyed on by an adult.

On the other hand, we are also getting close to the big fuzzy line that society has drawn in the ground.  There really isn't anything magical about an 18th birthday that makes a child better able to fend off predatory behavior, or to protect oneself from mind games.  That said, you still have to draw that line somewhere, and 18 seems a good place.

How about not using age at all to draw the line.


Cause your ten year old lover is totes mature?
 
2013-11-20 01:20:04 PM
Those poor parents are never going to live this down at the church group now.
 
2013-11-20 01:21:22 PM
Okay, he's gay. Is the boy blind also?
 
2013-11-20 01:21:31 PM
If you're going to be gay, be gay with someone of legal age. There's nothing wrong with that. Unfortunately, people like the guy in the article aren't interested in "of-age" gay males. They're only interested in underage boys, regardless of said underage boy's sexual orientation. That's predatory. You should go to jail for that.

/had a "friend" that was busted under similar circumstances
//he deserves to be on a sex offender registry
///and I hope he rots in hell
 
2013-11-20 01:25:04 PM
Accidents happen, and sometimes they have caliber sizes.
 
2013-11-20 01:26:12 PM

skinink: Pangit: I think the parents should be charged with something also.

You son was caught exploiting himself at 9:40pm with another man, in public location. To top it all off, they met on a dating website, which I am pretty damn sure you have to be 18yo to subscribe. They clearly are not monitoring their sons activities.

Negligence.

I don't have kids but I don't pretend it's easy to raise children. And dating website? For all we know it could have been a posting on Craigslist or Backpage. This is all on the sex offender and trying to blame the parents on this is the wrong focus.


I'm not solely blaming the parents. I'm saying that they should be keeping a better eye out. And yes, per the article, it was a dating website.
 
2013-11-20 01:35:17 PM

Walker: The two had been involved in a sexual relationship for approximately one month and had sexual encounters seven times since.

Wallace was charged with seven counts of rape. He was arraigned and held on $140,000 cash bail and ordered not to have contact with anyone under the age of 18.

Meanwhile a hot female teacher has sex with a 13-year-old boy 7 times, doesn't get charged with rape,  and just gets a slap on the risk, if that.

Nope, no double standards here.


It may have violated (pun not intended) the terms of his P&P. The sex offenders that were in my district when I was a LEO all had certain terms and conditions that were part of their release from prison. That would've been the easiest thing to arrest guy in TFA for.

I farking hated doing compliance checks, although one could've been a Fark headline: the US Marshal with us at one guy's house found kiddie porn on guy's computer and guy blamed it on his cat. Said the cat typed in the webpage.

It went like this:
Marshal: sheriffedtombell.jpeg. "They were stored. Try again."
Perv: ihazasad.jpeg.
My partner: "Hey Sovietski, can your cat type?"
Me: "No. Nor does he have a child porn addiction."
My partner: "Sir, have you thought about getting your cat some professional psychiatric help?" (All while making a maximumtrolling face.)

Don't get me started on double standards in the justice system. Saw enough of that shiat to write a BOOK.
 
2013-11-20 01:39:57 PM

Farce-Side: Russ1642: Some Coke Drinking Guy: While it is still wrong for adults to have sex with kids, technically, this isn't pedophilia.  This guy is a ephebophile which is an adult who is attracted to kids who have just recently gone through puberty, normally around 15 to 16 years of age, but haven't reached fullmaturity.  It's sick, but in a different way.

Being sexually attracted to someone whose body is sending off sexual signals is understandable, but in this case, there is a clear moral boundary, which unlike most sexual moral boundaries, actually has a pretty good reason for existing.  An adult, because of their experiences, and knowledge of human behavior, has an unfair advantage on a youth, in that he can manipulate, and control his junior partner with all kinds of mind games that he may have in hisarsenal.  It really isn't fair to a teenage kid to be preyed on by an adult.

On the other hand, we are also getting close to the big fuzzy line that society has drawn in the ground.  There really isn't anything magical about an 18th birthday that makes a child better able to fend off predatory behavior, or to protect oneself from mind games.  That said, you still have to draw that line somewhere, and 18 seems a good place.

How about not using age at all to draw the line.

Cause your ten year old lover is totes mature?


For a start you should have to prove that harm was done. That allows someone a reasonable defense of "if I was harming him then why did he come back for the seventh time?". It then forces a prosecutor to not only prove harm but that you brainwashed the teen as well. That's what you're claiming by setting an age limit but I have serious doubts that it's what happened here. I think it's two consenting parties.
 
2013-11-20 01:41:33 PM

Anne.Uumellmahaye: lennavan: The 16 year old was turned over to the custody of his parents.

What better way to find out your son is gay than when he's being turned over to you by the cops after having sex with a 49 year old dude in the back of a car.

At what point is the 16 year old no longer considered gay, rather as one with some mental issues? If it was a 49 year old woman he met on the Internet, wouldn't that be just as sick? A 16 yr old girl and this dude? I have nothing against finding fun on a dating site, but this isn't healthy behavior.


Yeah I agree with you.  I found sex in the back of a car with a 49 year old to be just sick.  The gay part is irrelevant, I guess I just found some comedy in how that may have been how the parents find out.
 
2013-11-20 01:46:36 PM

Russ1642: That allows someone a reasonable defense of "if I was harming him then why did he come back for the seventh time?"


Do you really want this thread to turn into a big farking list of the dumb shiat kids do that is harmful to them yet they are too farking stupid to realize it?

I highly recommend you retract that point.

Russ1642: It then forces a prosecutor to not only prove harm but that you brainwashed the teen as well.


Teenagers are stupid, not brainwashed.  More at 11.

Russ1642: That's what you're claiming by setting an age limit but I have serious doubts that it's what happened here. I think it's two consenting parties.


No.  The age limit means you are too stupid to make decisions like this, you are too stupid to possibly consent. 

I give science talks to 2nd graders.  One of my first talks, I tried to explain the concept of a model organism, why we do experiments on animals first.  To do that, I said I have a chemical that I have no idea what it will do to you but I want to find out.  Who wants to be my test subject?  Now everyone in the room was supposed to say "noooo!" and then I'd explain that's why I started testing on model organisms first.   Every single kid in the room raised their hands and wanted me to test it on them right at that very moment.  So, an entire classroom of 2nd graders consented to me injecting them with a random chemical that I had honestly no idea what it would do.  I guess you would have no problem with that if I went ahead with the experiment.  That's kinda sick.
 
2013-11-20 01:48:25 PM
Stay tuned for the thrilling conclusion when our 16 year old "victim" becomes the 18 year old "perpetrator".
 
2013-11-20 01:55:06 PM

lennavan: Russ1642: That allows someone a reasonable defense of "if I was harming him then why did he come back for the seventh time?"

Do you really want this thread to turn into a big farking list of the dumb shiat kids do that is harmful to them yet they are too farking stupid to realize it?

I highly recommend you retract that point.

Russ1642: It then forces a prosecutor to not only prove harm but that you brainwashed the teen as well.

Teenagers are stupid, not brainwashed.  More at 11.

Russ1642: That's what you're claiming by setting an age limit but I have serious doubts that it's what happened here. I think it's two consenting parties.

No.  The age limit means you are too stupid to make decisions like this, you are too stupid to possibly consent. 

I give science talks to 2nd graders.  One of my first talks, I tried to explain the concept of a model organism, why we do experiments on animals first.  To do that, I said I have a chemical that I have no idea what it will do to you but I want to find out.  Who wants to be my test subject?  Now everyone in the room was supposed to say "noooo!" and then I'd explain that's why I started testing on model organisms first.   Every single kid in the room raised their hands and wanted me to test it on them right at that very moment.  So, an entire classroom of 2nd graders consented to me injecting them with a random chemical that I had honestly no idea what it would do.  I guess you would have no problem with that if I went ahead with the experiment.  That's kinda sick.


This is a case about a 16 year old. Not second graders.
 
2013-11-20 01:57:41 PM

Russ1642: lennavan: Russ1642: That allows someone a reasonable defense of "if I was harming him then why did he come back for the seventh time?"

Do you really want this thread to turn into a big farking list of the dumb shiat kids do that is harmful to them yet they are too farking stupid to realize it?

I highly recommend you retract that point.

Russ1642: It then forces a prosecutor to not only prove harm but that you brainwashed the teen as well.

Teenagers are stupid, not brainwashed.  More at 11.

Russ1642: That's what you're claiming by setting an age limit but I have serious doubts that it's what happened here. I think it's two consenting parties.

No.  The age limit means you are too stupid to make decisions like this, you are too stupid to possibly consent. 

I give science talks to 2nd graders.  One of my first talks, I tried to explain the concept of a model organism, why we do experiments on animals first.  To do that, I said I have a chemical that I have no idea what it will do to you but I want to find out.  Who wants to be my test subject?  Now everyone in the room was supposed to say "noooo!" and then I'd explain that's why I started testing on model organisms first.   Every single kid in the room raised their hands and wanted me to test it on them right at that very moment.  So, an entire classroom of 2nd graders consented to me injecting them with a random chemical that I had honestly no idea what it would do.  I guess you would have no problem with that if I went ahead with the experiment.  That's kinda sick.

This is a case about a 16 year old. Not second graders.


I'm not saying that you can do whatever you want to second graders but rather that you can't prosecute based solely on age. Prove harm, prove maliciousness. What happens when you set age limits is that you'll end up falsely imprisoning people for consentual acts.
 
2013-11-20 02:03:46 PM

sovietski: Walker: The two had been involved in a sexual relationship for approximately one month and had sexual encounters seven times since.

Wallace was charged with seven counts of rape. He was arraigned and held on $140,000 cash bail and ordered not to have contact with anyone under the age of 18.

Meanwhile a hot female teacher has sex with a 13-year-old boy 7 times, doesn't get charged with rape,  and just gets a slap on the risk, if that.

Nope, no double standards here.

It may have violated (pun not intended) the terms of his P&P. The sex offenders that were in my district when I was a LEO all had certain terms and conditions that were part of their release from prison. That would've been the easiest thing to arrest guy in TFA for.

I farking hated doing compliance checks, although one could've been a Fark headline: the US Marshal with us at one guy's house found kiddie porn on guy's computer and guy blamed it on his cat. Said the cat typed in the webpage.

It went like this:
Marshal: sheriffedtombell.jpeg. "They were stored. Try again."
Perv: ihazasad.jpeg.
My partner: "Hey Sovietski, can your cat type?"
Me: "No. Nor does he have a child porn addiction."
My partner: "Sir, have you thought about getting your cat some professional psychiatric help?" (All while making a maximumtrolling face.)

Don't get me started on double standards in the justice system. Saw enough of that shiat to write a BOOK.


Why not? Type away. I'm interested in hearing your stories.


As for the story, isn't 16 age of consent? Dnrta.
If this was in a say, California, it would be illegal. But if it was in a state where the age of consent was lower -one Farker said Hawaii is 14- how would the enraged people in this thread react?
Would it suddenly be ok with them?

I find it weird that age of consent never became a federal issue.
 
2013-11-20 02:05:15 PM

Russ1642: This is a case about a 16 year old. Not second graders.


So then you are okay with age limits, you just wished it was lower than 16 years old.

Russ1642: What happens when you set age limits is that you'll end up falsely imprisoning people for consentual acts

.

By definition, age limits means you are incapable of consenting.  Therefore, no one is falsely imprisoned.

Russ1642: I'm not saying that you can do whatever you want to second graders but rather that you can't prosecute based solely on age. Prove harm, prove maliciousness.


So then I can do whatever I want to a second grader, as long as I don't maliciously cause harm?  Frickin sweet.
 
2013-11-20 02:13:39 PM

Some Coke Drinking Guy: While it is still wrong for adults to have sex with kids, technically, this isn't pedophilia.  This guy is a ephebophile which is an adult who is attracted to kids who have just recently gone through puberty, normally around 15 to 16 years of age, but haven't reached fullmaturity.  It's sick, but in a different way.

Being sexually attracted to someone whose body is sending off sexual signals is understandable, but in this case, there is a clear moral boundary, which unlike most sexual moral boundaries, actually has a pretty good reason for existing.  An adult, because of their experiences, and knowledge of human behavior, has an unfair advantage on a youth, in that he can manipulate, and control his junior partner with all kinds of mind games that he may have in hisarsenal.  It really isn't fair to a teenage kid to be preyed on by an adult.

On the other hand, we are also getting close to the big fuzzy line that society has drawn in the ground.  There really isn't anything magical about an 18th birthday that makes a child better able to fend off predatory behavior, or to protect oneself from mind games.  That said, you still have to draw that line somewhere, and 18 seems a good place.


I think the age of consent should be 25. I mean, the brain isnt even fully developed until that age. But since 20 something year olds are as stupid as hell too, lets add 5 to it just to be safe and make it 30. SOMEBODY has got to think of the children.

/also, I see the men's rights brigade already have one of their scouts out in this thread
 
2013-11-20 02:13:50 PM
The entire concept of having someone register as a sex offender is so far beyond idiotic that it's hard to comprehend.

If you're worried that people are at high risk of re-offending upon release.... DON'T RELEASE THEM.
 
2013-11-20 02:14:45 PM

Matthew Keene: Okay, he's gay. Is the boy blind also?


No, but the fact he's playing "gay" means he has a mental disorder anyway, so his judgment cannot be trusted.
 
2013-11-20 02:17:28 PM

Matthew Keene: Okay, he's gay. Is the boy blind also?


what is wrong with you people ? the old guy is the victim/customer/john  and the "kid" is a farking online whore.  shiat if we had 'fast' internet in my day, i'd have been farking widows for cash since i got my first boner.
 
2013-11-20 02:25:41 PM

Russ1642: I'm not saying that you can do whatever you want to second graders but rather that you can't prosecute based solely on age. Prove harm, prove maliciousness. What happens when you set age limits is that you'll end up falsely imprisoning people for consentual acts.


Unless you have some novel new way of doing that, your "idea" is simply unworkable and you need to drop it and move on. Setting age limits is a compromise that recognizes that we can neither allow people to just around manipulating children to get whatever they want and that we, at the same time, cannot reasonably be expected to devote the sort of resources required to prosecuting every individual offense on the basis of complex psychological profiles custom-built to each victim.
 
2013-11-20 02:55:17 PM
Look, the boy wanted cock and was afraid of approaching anyone he knew out of fear, so he meets this guy online. He's gotten to know him a bit and meets him. Maybe he's a bit disappointed in his appearance, but, hey, cock.

Not everyone is like Justin, and lucky enough to meet Brian Kinney on his first try.
 
2013-11-20 02:56:24 PM

Resident Muslim: sovietski: Walker: The two had been involved in a sexual relationship for approximately one month and had sexual encounters seven times since.

Wallace was charged with seven counts of rape. He was arraigned and held on $140,000 cash bail and ordered not to have contact with anyone under the age of 18.

Meanwhile a hot female teacher has sex with a 13-year-old boy 7 times, doesn't get charged with rape,  and just gets a slap on the risk, if that.

Nope, no double standards here.

It may have violated (pun not intended) the terms of his P&P. The sex offenders that were in my district when I was a LEO all had certain terms and conditions that were part of their release from prison. That would've been the easiest thing to arrest guy in TFA for.

I farking hated doing compliance checks, although one could've been a Fark headline: the US Marshal with us at one guy's house found kiddie porn on guy's computer and guy blamed it on his cat. Said the cat typed in the webpage.

It went like this:
Marshal: sheriffedtombell.jpeg. "They were stored. Try again."
Perv: ihazasad.jpeg.
My partner: "Hey Sovietski, can your cat type?"
Me: "No. Nor does he have a child porn addiction."
My partner: "Sir, have you thought about getting your cat some professional psychiatric help?" (All while making a maximumtrolling face.)

Don't get me started on double standards in the justice system. Saw enough of that shiat to write a BOOK.

Why not? Type away. I'm interested in hearing your stories.


As for the story, isn't 16 age of consent? Dnrta.
If this was in a say, California, it would be illegal. But if it was in a state where the age of consent was lower -one Farker said Hawaii is 14- how would the enraged people in this thread react?
Would it suddenly be ok with them?

I find it weird that age of consent never became a federal issue.


TFA didn't say what the age of consent was. I'm not saying his behavior was okay, but simply stated, he had to agree to terms of release. If it said to avoid children aged x and under, and that the 16 year old met that condition, he knew he was in the wrong. He can feign ignorance all he wants, but his signature is on that magic piece of paper.
(At least, in the state I was a LEO in. Other states, I can't say for certain.)

If he wants to date guys who are at the age of consent and above, go for it. Just don't be a complete farking idiot about it and go back to what sent you to prison in the first place. But, people are stupid by nature.

Most of my injustice stories revolve around the usual: access to funds and political connections. And also evidentiary screwups and prosecutor blunders. But, that is the nature of the Beast and I am so farking glad I don't have to deal with that shiat anymore.

TBH, I chose the working class, largely non-white districts to work after I graduated academy. Not out of white guilt, but I grew up in a neighborbood that was working class and evenly distributed white and black, so it was more comfortable to be in familiar surroundings than huge farking houses and uppity white people. Hell, my godfather is my dad's former patrol partner, who makes Wesley Snipes look light-skinned. (He also reads Fark occasionally.)

In my experience, it was people who were predominately white and wealthy who dropped the "Oh well I know so and so" card and my favorite, the "I'll have your badge card." Fark that. If you didn't want us here, why did you call?
 
2013-11-20 03:13:28 PM
Sovietski....

No one cares
 
2013-11-20 03:13:58 PM

eyeq360: Can we just make him red handed with other red bits through the judicious usage of sharp-bladed instruments?


I'd prefer the government to convict him and his entire family of treason, and have them "disappear" Pinochet-style.
 
2013-11-20 03:22:38 PM
WARNING:  DON'T CLICK ON THE LINK.  What has been seen cannot be unseen.

If a 16 year old boy was getting off on Jabba, he clearly has limited internet access.
 
2013-11-20 03:36:03 PM

Russ1642: lennavan: Russ1642: That allows someone a reasonable defense of "if I was harming him then why did he come back for the seventh time?"

Do you really want this thread to turn into a big farking list of the dumb shiat kids do that is harmful to them yet they are too farking stupid to realize it?

I highly recommend you retract that point.

Russ1642: It then forces a prosecutor to not only prove harm but that you brainwashed the teen as well.

Teenagers are stupid, not brainwashed.  More at 11.

Russ1642: That's what you're claiming by setting an age limit but I have serious doubts that it's what happened here. I think it's two consenting parties.

No.  The age limit means you are too stupid to make decisions like this, you are too stupid to possibly consent.

I give science talks to 2nd graders.  One of my first talks, I tried to explain the concept of a model organism, why we do experiments on animals first.  To do that, I said I have a chemical that I have no idea what it will do to you but I want to find out.  Who wants to be my test subject?  Now everyone in the room was supposed to say "noooo!" and then I'd explain that's why I started testing on model organisms first.   Every single kid in the room raised their hands and wanted me to test it on them right at that very moment.  So, an entire classroom of 2nd graders consented to me injecting them with a random chemical that I had honestly no idea what it would do.  I guess you would have no problem with that if I went ahead with the experiment.  That's kinda sick.

This is a case about a 16 year old. Not second graders.


The point still basically applies for 16-year-olds.  After all, a majority of them thought this was good:

www.hdwallpapers.in
 
2013-11-20 03:39:42 PM
My girlfriend told me I'm a pedophile.  I said "That's a pretty big word for a 12 year old".

(I'll take a window seat, please)
 
2013-11-20 04:59:12 PM
Frank T. Wallace, 49, of Camden-Wyoming, Del., was charged with rape in the incident.

Ouch! Right in the incident!
 
2013-11-20 05:12:53 PM

Russ1642: Not rape.


No, just predatory sodomy.  This guy's a poster child for why we used to stone people for that.
 
2013-11-20 06:42:25 PM

mooseyfate: If you're going to be gay, be gay with someone of legal age. There's nothing wrong with that. Unfortunately, people like the guy in the article aren't interested in "of-age" gay males. They're only interested in underage boys, regardless of said underage boy's sexual orientation. That's predatory. You should go to jail for that.

/had a "friend" that was busted under similar circumstances
//he deserves to be on a sex offender registry
///and I hope he rots in hell



Under 14 I'd agree.  When you start talking about people 16 and over I think we as a society are overreacting.
 
2013-11-20 06:43:28 PM

SirTanon: Russ1642: lennavan: Russ1642: That allows someone a reasonable defense of "if I was harming him then why did he come back for the seventh time?"

Do you really want this thread to turn into a big farking list of the dumb shiat kids do that is harmful to them yet they are too farking stupid to realize it?

I highly recommend you retract that point.

Russ1642: It then forces a prosecutor to not only prove harm but that you brainwashed the teen as well.

Teenagers are stupid, not brainwashed.  More at 11.

Russ1642: That's what you're claiming by setting an age limit but I have serious doubts that it's what happened here. I think it's two consenting parties.

No.  The age limit means you are too stupid to make decisions like this, you are too stupid to possibly consent.

I give science talks to 2nd graders.  One of my first talks, I tried to explain the concept of a model organism, why we do experiments on animals first.  To do that, I said I have a chemical that I have no idea what it will do to you but I want to find out.  Who wants to be my test subject?  Now everyone in the room was supposed to say "noooo!" and then I'd explain that's why I started testing on model organisms first.   Every single kid in the room raised their hands and wanted me to test it on them right at that very moment.  So, an entire classroom of 2nd graders consented to me injecting them with a random chemical that I had honestly no idea what it would do.  I guess you would have no problem with that if I went ahead with the experiment.  That's kinda sick.

This is a case about a 16 year old. Not second graders.

The point still basically applies for 16-year-olds.  After all, a majority of them thought this was good:

[www.hdwallpapers.in image 850x531]


Which involved a 90+ year old man having a relationship with a teenaged girl.
 
2013-11-20 07:49:09 PM

sovietski: Resident Muslim: sovietski: Walker: The two had been involved in a sexual relationship for approximately one month and had sexual encounters seven times since.

Wallace was charged with seven counts of rape. He was arraigned and held on $140,000 cash bail and ordered not to have contact with anyone under the age of 18.

Meanwhile a hot female teacher has sex with a 13-year-old boy 7 times, doesn't get charged with rape,  and just gets a slap on the risk, if that.

Nope, no double standards here.

It may have violated (pun not intended) the terms of his P&P. The sex offenders that were in my district when I was a LEO all had certain terms and conditions that were part of their release from prison. That would've been the easiest thing to arrest guy in TFA for.

I farking hated doing compliance checks, although one could've been a Fark headline: the US Marshal with us at one guy's house found kiddie porn on guy's computer and guy blamed it on his cat. Said the cat typed in the webpage.

It went like this:
Marshal: sheriffedtombell.jpeg. "They were stored. Try again."
Perv: ihazasad.jpeg.
My partner: "Hey Sovietski, can your cat type?"
Me: "No. Nor does he have a child porn addiction."
My partner: "Sir, have you thought about getting your cat some professional psychiatric help?" (All while making a maximumtrolling face.)

Don't get me started on double standards in the justice system. Saw enough of that shiat to write a BOOK.

Why not? Type away. I'm interested in hearing your stories.


As for the story, isn't 16 age of consent? Dnrta.
If this was in a say, California, it would be illegal. But if it was in a state where the age of consent was lower -one Farker said Hawaii is 14- how would the enraged people in this thread react?
Would it suddenly be ok with them?

I find it weird that age of consent never became a federal issue.

TFA didn't say what the age of consent was. I'm not saying his behavior was okay, but simply stated, he had to agree to terms of release. If it said to avoid children aged x and under, and that the 16 year old met that condition, he knew he was in the wrong. He can feign ignorance all he wants, but his signature is on that magic piece of paper.
(At least, in the state I was a LEO in. Other states, I can't say for certain.)

If he wants to date guys who are at the age of consent and above, go for it. Just don't be a complete farking idiot about it and go back to what sent you to prison in the first place. But, people are stupid by nature.

Most of my injustice stories revolve around the usual: access to funds and political connections. And also evidentiary screwups and prosecutor blunders. But, that is the nature of the Beast and I am so farking glad I don't have to deal with that shiat anymore.

TBH, I chose the working class, largely non-white districts to work after I graduated academy. Not out of white guilt, but I grew up in a neighborbood that was working class and evenly distributed white and black, so it was more comfortable to be in familiar surroundings than huge farking houses and uppity white people. Hell, my godfather is my dad's former patrol partner, who makes Wesley Snipes look light-skinned. (He also reads Fark occasionally.)

In my experience, it was people who were predominately white and wealthy who dropped the "Oh well I know so and so" card and my favorite, the "I'll have your badge card." Fark that. If you didn't want us here, why did you call?


Ok, gotcha.
Thanks.
For some reason I though you meant male/female double standards.

Thanks for sharing. I hope you made a difference because you sound like you cared and come from a line of people who care.
 
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