If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(CNSNews)   Obama: "Trust us. If we make it so that every car can be tracked, the government will not use it for nefarious purposes"   (cnsnews.com) divider line 185
    More: Scary, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Obama, senate commerce committee, John Holdren, Infrastructure Committee, White House Office, commercial vehicles, autonomous vehicle  
•       •       •

1564 clicks; posted to Politics » on 20 Nov 2013 at 1:03 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



185 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | » | Last | Show all
 
2013-11-20 01:20:31 PM  
Suddenly every rightwinger who didn't care about the NSA reading library records is filled with white-hot fury.

/because they don't read
 
2013-11-20 01:20:56 PM  

dr_blasto: CNSNews.com is  not funded by the government like NPR.
CNSNews.com is  not funded by the government like PBS.
CNSNews.com  relies on individuals like you to help us report the news the liberal media distort and ignore.  Please make a tax-deductible gift to CNSNews.com today.Your continued support will ensure that CNSNews.com is here reporting THE TRUTH, for a long time to come. It's  fast,  easy and  secure.


mmmm Seems legit.
 
2013-11-20 01:21:50 PM  

James!: They probably have sensors in the seats, like how your car knows that your passenger isn't wearing a seat belt and beeps at you.


Yup. Because my car beeps at me every time I don't strap my backpack into the seat, so I just push it onto the floor. Thanks Obongo for making me a slob!
 
2013-11-20 01:22:09 PM  
He said it very clearly.

"If you like your vehicle anonymity, you can keep your vehicle anonymity. Period."

He said it like twenty times.
 
2013-11-20 01:25:26 PM  

Kibbler: Suddenly every rightwinger who didn't care about the NSA reading library records is filled with white-hot fury.

/because they don't read


Hey, if you read the other thread on the main page, a theif just stoled the book from the library. So now they probably don't have any to read.
 
2013-11-20 01:26:33 PM  

MabalzIzari: Just setting up to track the vehicle mileage for taxing purposes.


Yes, and that information, like the information from EZPass automated tollbooth passes will never, ever be used by the government to track people, right?

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/09/19/report-n-j-man-discovers-e-zp as s-is-tracked-all-over-nyc/

But hey, that's innocent (if somewhat disingenuous because you aren't told about it), right?  They wouldn't ever use it to specifically track targeted individuals, right?
 
2013-11-20 01:26:56 PM  
Technology is scary. Keep old, no new.
 
2013-11-20 01:27:29 PM  

Headso: The invasion of privacy shiat is where Obama is off his rocker.


I really don't have many problems with him except on this one issue.
 
2013-11-20 01:27:48 PM  

dittybopper: James!: dittybopper: James!: dittybopper: James!: That isn't what the NSA is doing, but whatever.

Actually, that's *PRECISELY* what the NSA is doing:  Collecting the metadata from your radio transmissions (ie., cellphone calls, texting, e-mails).

I'm sure if you fashion a tin foil hat for your phone you'll be just fine.

I don't own a cellphone.  But yes, wrapping it in foil will prevent it from transmitting and receiving data to the cell network, which means it can't be tracked.

It will be useless that way, however.

But the gubmint can't spy on your private conversations with their CIA antennas what are hidden in the golden arches of every McDonald franchise!!

OK, so it's pretty obvious you don't really have a clue here.

First, a bit of my background:  I used to be a "ditty bopper"*, which is military slang for what the Army officially used to call a "05H Electronic Warfare Signals Intelligence Morse Interceptor".      It was my job to intercept communications, in other words.  I had a Top Secret/SCI clearance, and oddly enough, I happened to work in the very same facility that Edward Snowden worked at, though I left there almost 25 years before he stepped foot in the place.  I spend 3 years there, copying the Morse code transmissions of foreign governments.  Prior to that, I attended the United States Army Intelligence School, Fort Devens (USAISD), which is where I actually learned Morse.

I got into that business because signals intelligence had fascinated me ever since I had read "The Codebreakers" by David Kahn as a young teen.  I probably would have stayed in, but at the time, for that MOS, in order to get promoted from Specialist (my rank) to Sergeant E-5, you needed 995 promotion points out of a possible 1,000.  Which meant you had to max out your PT test, military education, civilian education, range qualification, SQT score, Common Task testing, your promotion boards, etc.  Meanwhile, the non-Morse 05K interceptors only had to get 450 promotion point ...


I know what your name means, it doesn't make stories like this any less paranoid rambling.
 
2013-11-20 01:29:45 PM  
That's cute that they are asking our permission to invade our privacy before they do it.  They are still going to do it.  But at least they warned us first.
 
2013-11-20 01:30:23 PM  

cman: ManateeGag: and the alternative was, what?

Something that isn't based upon fear

American elections are based on the simple premise that one must vote for a D or an R or the other side will win.

We are willing to take it up the ass on things just as long as the other side doesn't win

The funny thing is is that this has put us in a position where we perpetuate the system. There is something else out there.

/Oh, before anyone throws BSRBSVR, ask your self this: which parties disregard innocent life in drone strikes? Which parties support the Patriot Act? Which Parties think it is acceptable for the government to data mine their own citizens? Which parties support big business over unions? Yeah, both of them.


Here's the problem with that:  The way the electoral process is set up, we already know either a (D) or an (R) is going to win the big offices.  That's the problem with the "first-past-the-post" system; it always ends up being a two-party system in the end.  So, voting for someone else only ends up hurting whichever one of those you could reasonably see yourself holding your nose and voting for, while helping the one you wouldn't want to see in office in a million years.  If you want to change that, change the system; give me approval voting, and I would be perfectly fine checking "yes" for as many candidates as I find appealing, since I would no longer feel obligated to stop the greater of two evils from getting into office.

/even the politicians know this
//that's why all you see from third parties is sore losers and nutcases
 
2013-11-20 01:31:01 PM  
I was told that if I voted for McCain (or Rmoney) that the Patriot Act and domestic warrantless spying would get out of hand, we would be bailing out the big banks to the tune of 1 trillion dollars a year and we would have troops in Afghanistan forever.


I only wish the people who told me that weren't spot on in their assessment.
 
2013-11-20 01:31:14 PM  
But remember, cops are just silly for complaining about GPS tracking on their police cars...
 
2013-11-20 01:32:46 PM  

dr_blasto: CNSNews.com is  not funded by the government like NPR.
CNSNews.com is  not funded by the government like PBS.
CNSNews.com  relies on individuals like you to help us report the news the liberal media distort and ignore.  Please make a tax-deductible gift to CNSNews.com today.Your continued support will ensure that CNSNews.com is here reporting THE TRUTH, for a long time to come. It's  fast,  easy and  secure.


...neither are Fox News, MSNBC, or CNN...and they don't need donations, either.  What's your excuse, CNS?
 
2013-11-20 01:34:01 PM  

IlGreven: But remember, cops are just silly for complaining about GPS tracking on their police cars...


Cops should be tracked at all times while on duty, to protect the rights of civilians.

Civilians should not be tracked without a warrant, to protect those same rights.

These are not contradictions.  If you don't like it, don't be a cop.
 
2013-11-20 01:34:38 PM  
Not going to read all the posts but if you ever wanted an automated transportation system there going to have to be some kind of thing like this.
 
2013-11-20 01:35:06 PM  

cryinoutloud: Headso: The invasion of privacy shiat is where Obama is off his rocker.

I really don't have many problems with him except on this one issue.


Question:  Can you find an example of one politician, on any part of the political spectrum, that has a realistic shot at any federal office, that does not advocate the exact same surveillance policy that Barack Obama does, nor do they advocate a similar style of surveillance?
 
2013-11-20 01:35:39 PM  
My uncle has a country place no one knows about
He says it used to be a farm before the Motor Law...
 
2013-11-20 01:37:27 PM  

James!: The Obama administration denies that they will mandate that you put a chip in your dog so that your dog barks every time you try to masturbate.


Good. That will scare away Peeping Tom.

/AKA Ceiling Cat.
 
2013-11-20 01:38:45 PM  

IlGreven: But remember, cops are just silly for complaining about GPS tracking on their police cars...


Who gives a shiat about cops and their complaints?
 
2013-11-20 01:39:57 PM  

IlGreven: cryinoutloud: Headso: The invasion of privacy shiat is where Obama is off his rocker.

I really don't have many problems with him except on this one issue.

Question:  Can you find an example of one politician, on any part of the political spectrum, that has a realistic shot at any federal office, that does not advocate the exact same surveillance policy that Barack Obama does, nor do they advocate a similar style of surveillance?


How about Senator Barack Obama?
 
2013-11-20 01:43:30 PM  

dittybopper: MabalzIzari: Just setting up to track the vehicle mileage for taxing purposes.

Yes, and that information, like the information from EZPass automated tollbooth passes will never, ever be used by the government to track people, right?

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/09/19/report-n-j-man-discovers-e-zp as s-is-tracked-all-over-nyc/

But hey, that's innocent (if somewhat disingenuous because you aren't told about it), right?  They wouldn't ever use it to specifically track targeted individuals, right?


I'd like to subscribe to your hand-typed newsletter that is hand delivered to a dead drop of my choosing.
 
2013-11-20 01:45:06 PM  

IlGreven: cryinoutloud: Headso: The invasion of privacy shiat is where Obama is off his rocker.

I really don't have many problems with him except on this one issue.

Question:  Can you find an example of one politician, on any part of the political spectrum, that has a realistic shot at any federal office, that does not advocate the exact same surveillance policy that Barack Obama does, nor do they advocate a similar style of surveillance?


If Ron Wyden could get some more name recognition, I would think he would have a shot. Same with Justin Amash possibly (full disclosure, I don't know much about him other than him being anti surveillance)
 
2013-11-20 01:45:14 PM  

James!: I know what your name means, it doesn't make stories like this any less paranoid rambling.


Paranoid ramblings like those of the New York Times?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/09/us/revelations-give-look-at-spy-ag en cys-wider-reach.html
 
2013-11-20 01:45:26 PM  

dennysgod: dr_blasto: CNSNews.com is  not funded by the government like NPR.
CNSNews.com is  not funded by the government like PBS.
CNSNews.com  relies on individuals like you to help us report the news the liberal media distort and ignore.  Please make a tax-deductible gift to CNSNews.com today.Your continued support will ensure that CNSNews.com is here reporting THE TRUTH, for a long time to come. It's  fast,  easy and  secure.

mmmm Seems legit.


He almost had me too.
 
2013-11-20 01:46:51 PM  

HeartBurnKid: IlGreven: But remember, cops are just silly for complaining about GPS tracking on their police cars...

Cops should be tracked at all times while on duty, to protect the rights of civilians.

Civilians should not be tracked without a warrant, to protect those same rights.

These are not contradictions.  If you don't like it, don't be a cop.


Lapel cameras for police.
If at any time your lapel camera is offline people should assume you are committing a crime and are up to no good.

What do they have to hide from transparency?
 
2013-11-20 01:47:10 PM  

logieal: dittybopper: MabalzIzari: Just setting up to track the vehicle mileage for taxing purposes.

Yes, and that information, like the information from EZPass automated tollbooth passes will never, ever be used by the government to track people, right?

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/09/19/report-n-j-man-discovers-e-zp as s-is-tracked-all-over-nyc/

But hey, that's innocent (if somewhat disingenuous because you aren't told about it), right?  They wouldn't ever use it to specifically track targeted individuals, right?

I'd like to subscribe to your hand-typed newsletter that is hand delivered to a dead drop of my choosing.


Warm up the Scrabble set! We're gonna trade chili recipes!
 
2013-11-20 01:47:25 PM  

Headso: Question: Can you find an example of one politician, on any part of the political spectrum, that has a realistic shot at any federal office, that does not advocate the exact same surveillance policy that Barack Obama does, nor do they advocate a similar style of surveillance?

How about Senator Barack Obama?



Nice!
 
2013-11-20 01:48:20 PM  
CNS = Conservative News Substitute
 
2013-11-20 01:49:09 PM  

IlGreven: cryinoutloud: Headso: The invasion of privacy shiat is where Obama is off his rocker.

I really don't have many problems with him except on this one issue.

Question:  Can you find an example of one politician, on any part of the political spectrum, that has a realistic shot at any federal office, that does not advocate the exact same surveillance policy that Barack Obama does, nor do they advocate a similar style of surveillance?


Would you tell someone they have no realistic expectations to make money or live the American dream therefore they should just be poor and live off welfare for the rest of their life?

3rd parties are bad so vote democrat?
 
2013-11-20 01:50:32 PM  

Headso: IlGreven: cryinoutloud: Headso: The invasion of privacy shiat is where Obama is off his rocker.

I really don't have many problems with him except on this one issue.

Question:  Can you find an example of one politician, on any part of the political spectrum, that has a realistic shot at any federal office, that does not advocate the exact same surveillance policy that Barack Obama does, nor do they advocate a similar style of surveillance?

How about Senator Barack Obama?


Thread over


someone get the lights.
 
2013-11-20 01:51:05 PM  

Sandvich is loose cannon: Not going to read all the posts but if you ever wanted an automated transportation system there going to have to be some kind of thing like this.


That's just it, a lot of people don't want it. They honestly believe that their slow and error-prone meat-judgement capabilities are better than a computer capable of calculating all of the physics involved in the process several thousand times a second.

It's EFI and drive-by-wire all over again. People fought those advancements too even though there was no reasonable argument against either and both have since greatly improved emissions performance, power output and reliability.

Apparently, some people believe that because no technology is perfect right out of the gate we shouldn't try to create any new technology at all.
 
2013-11-20 01:51:05 PM  

BizarreMan: I'm wondering how they will determine the number of passengers in the vehicle.  Based on seats that appear to be occupied?  What if I'm carrying a large heavy bag in the passenger seat.  Will it think that's a person?

Will they just go by weight of the car?  No officer, I'm not carrying 25 people in my car.  It's just that yo mama is so fat, she makes the car think it's carrying a football team?

Stupid thing is with the economy tanked and serious deficits, we're going to dump money into THIS?


Ever notice the seat belt light comes on when your passenger isn't wearing one but not when there is no passenger...
 
2013-11-20 01:52:51 PM  

dittybopper: James!: I know what your name means, it doesn't make stories like this any less paranoid rambling.

Paranoid ramblings like those of the New York Times?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/09/us/revelations-give-look-at-spy-ag en cys-wider-reach.html


That article has nothing to do with the government using technology that doesn't exist to monitor your trips to arbys.
 
2013-11-20 01:53:35 PM  

EWreckedSean: BizarreMan: I'm wondering how they will determine the number of passengers in the vehicle.  Based on seats that appear to be occupied?  What if I'm carrying a large heavy bag in the passenger seat.  Will it think that's a person?

Will they just go by weight of the car?  No officer, I'm not carrying 25 people in my car.  It's just that yo mama is so fat, she makes the car think it's carrying a football team?

Stupid thing is with the economy tanked and serious deficits, we're going to dump money into THIS?

Ever notice the seat belt light comes on when your passenger isn't wearing one but not when there is no passenger...


airbags also won't deploy if there is nobody in the seat.
 
2013-11-20 01:55:12 PM  

BizarreMan: I'm wondering how they will determine the number of passengers in the vehicle.  Based on seats that appear to be occupied?  What if I'm carrying a large heavy bag in the passenger seat.  Will it think that's a person?

Will they just go by weight of the car?  No officer, I'm not carrying 25 people in my car.  It's just that yo mama is so fat, she makes the car think it's carrying a football team?

Stupid thing is with the economy tanked and serious deficits, we're going to dump money into THIS?


I seriously think this is made up. V2V communication is intended for cars to communicate with each other for eventually autodrive and currently so you can know traffic situations. The number of people in your car is not important, and not part of any "standard" I've read. I can imagine it may be used to enforce HOV lanes though if it actually becomes part of the standard, which it isn't from my understanding.
 
2013-11-20 01:56:19 PM  
I knew those fifteen linear amplifiers in my car would come in handy some day.
 
2013-11-20 01:56:19 PM  
Go ahead and vote third party. It won't do a bit of good, and your candidate will absolutely lose, but you're free to make that decision.

And yes, a slightly lesser evil is still preferable to a slightly greater evil.
 
2013-11-20 01:58:15 PM  
How about fark you?
does fark you work for you?
 
2013-11-20 01:58:32 PM  

skozlaw: Sandvich is loose cannon: Not going to read all the posts but if you ever wanted an automated transportation system there going to have to be some kind of thing like this.

That's just it, a lot of people don't want it. They honestly believe that their slow and error-prone meat-judgement capabilities are better than a computer capable of calculating all of the physics involved in the process several thousand times a second.

It's EFI and drive-by-wire all over again. People fought those advancements too even though there was no reasonable argument against either and both have since greatly improved emissions performance, power output and reliability.

Apparently, some people believe that because no technology is perfect right out of the gate we shouldn't try to create any new technology at all.


Its not that....it's because the Government WILL misuse the technology.
 
2013-11-20 01:58:55 PM  
If the invention of stop lights came about in today's society it would be spun as the way government is not allowing people to travel freely and breaking their constitutional right of travel!

And by forcing people to STOP, you will just get carried away to prison! Sitting ducks, no way i'll ever stop at a stop light
 
2013-11-20 01:59:19 PM  
over the past few years ive become more and more interested in only owning an early 70's pickup. kind of like the Battlestar Gallactica of automobiles.. i want an engine, manual controls for said engine, and not much freakin else. I want to be able to crawl right into the engine bay and take out the alternator, or change the plugs, no computer controlled bullshiat.
 
2013-11-20 02:02:21 PM  
Trust has to be earned, Mr. President.

You earn it by telling us the truth when we ask you and your administration questions and not using executive privilege, claims of national security and outright lies to deflect them.

/I'm constantly amazed at how the Obama administration forgets that government is supposed to be for the people, of the people, by the people and not a secretive, shadowy organization that isn't accountable to the public. The president was a constitutional law professor, for cripe's sake. He's shown the same amount of aptitude for constitutional law in practice that the Bush administration did.
 
2013-11-20 02:02:25 PM  

James!: By the end of the year they MAYdecide to IFthey will advance  RESEARCH into technology to enable V2V communication between vehicles.

No mandate, the technology doesn't even exist yet.


So, its a "shovel ready" project then?  YOU WON'T GET ME OBAMA!!!  I'm only driving old cars from now on.
 
2013-11-20 02:03:31 PM  
breakingbrown.com
 
2013-11-20 02:04:13 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: [breakingbrown.com image 850x567]


lol
 
2013-11-20 02:06:36 PM  

I_C_Weener: James!: By the end of the year they MAYdecide to IFthey will advance  RESEARCH into technology to enable V2V communication between vehicles.

No mandate, the technology doesn't even exist yet.

So, its a "shovel ready" project then?  YOU WON'T GET ME OBAMA!!!  I'm only driving old cars from now on.


Oh my god! ARE THEY PUTTING SENSORS IN OUR SHOVELS!!?
 
2013-11-20 02:06:58 PM  

Evil High Priest: Go ahead and vote third party. It won't do a bit of good, and your candidate will absolutely lose, but you're free to make that decision.

And yes, a slightly lesser evil is still preferable to a slightly greater evil.


Psssh. So says the Evil High Priest. Of course you'd advocate for evil, it's not like you're the Benevolent High Priest.
 
2013-11-20 02:08:14 PM  
Come on Obama Defense Squad, let's hear it.
 
2013-11-20 02:08:26 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: [breakingbrown.com image 850x567]


Holy shiat, that's funny.
 
Displayed 50 of 185 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report