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(Fox News)   Jeep brings back WWII style edition of its Willy. Vehicle is marketed for people who are nostalgic about the days when we actually won the wars we were fighting   (foxnews.com) divider line 112
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2013-11-20 08:23:48 AM  
She can dance a cajun rhythm
Jump like a Willys in four wheel drive
She's my summer love in the spring, fall and winter
She can make happy any man alive

/obscure?
 
2013-11-20 08:34:00 AM  

rickythepenguin: She can dance a cajun rhythm
Jump like a Willys in four wheel drive
She's my summer love in the spring, fall and winter
She can make happy any man alive

/obscure?


No
tapes.brianchartrand.com
 
2013-11-20 09:21:50 AM  
So this is pretty much the 2014 Oscar-Mike or MW2 edition (i.e. limited edition)? - Which is usually half-way between a Wrangler Sport or Sahara and a Rubicon.
 
2013-11-20 09:43:07 AM  

rickythepenguin: /obscure?


On Fark? No a chance, Sugar Magnolia.
 
2013-11-20 10:01:59 AM  
sapphireridge.net
 
2013-11-20 10:07:33 AM  
So, just like the Nu Beetle, it's a completely different car with the same name as the original?

Pass.
 
2013-11-20 10:10:23 AM  
As long as it's still an overpriced crappy primary vehicle and prone to flipping, I'm in!
 
2013-11-20 10:11:19 AM  

UberDave: So this is pretty much the 2014 Oscar-Mike or MW2 edition (i.e. limited edition)? - Which is usually half-way between a Wrangler Sport or Sahara and a Rubicon.


Yeah, It's an X with Rubicon rails, Mountain Edition Grill, LSD in the Rear, bag o' stuff and sticker package.

Hey Chrysler, call me when there are 1-ton axles uner it and a diesel motor in it.
 
2013-11-20 10:15:22 AM  
Yes, the old Jeeps are super stable at highway speeds.
 
2013-11-20 10:19:04 AM  

Calmamity: So, just like the Nu Beetle, it's a completely different car with the same name as the original?

Pass.


Thing is, neither an original Beetle, nor an original Willys Jeep would pass the rigorous safety and emissions standards required today, so there is *NEVER* going to be a newly manufactured road-legal version of either in the US.
 
2013-11-20 10:22:24 AM  
That reminds me, I should do a little work on my two '48 Willys trucks this weekend.

/go devil!
//top speed, 42 mph
 
2013-11-20 10:23:35 AM  

Calmamity: So, just like the Nu Beetle, it's a completely different car with the same name as the original?

Pass.


This.

The old ones were simple in design, light weight, easy to fix, inexpensive, and pretty much stripped out to bare bones.

The article is about a Jeep Wrangler with blacked out trim and a some stickers on it.
 
2013-11-20 10:26:38 AM  
I don't think willys were usually made out of plastic. I understand making it wider, and also putting in a solid roll cage, and a modern engine, but you could at least keep the actual design of the original. That's nothing more than a wrangler with a new stencil on the side
 
2013-11-20 10:27:21 AM  
At a time when ICE are seizing and crushing Range Rovers at the ports and crushing them, there will never be a real vintage Jeep allowed on US roads. Maybe a pig with lipstick, but it's not the Willys.
 
2013-11-20 10:28:40 AM  
Does that mean that they'll be bring back the Joes to go with 'em?

www.lambiek.net
 
2013-11-20 10:28:42 AM  
Nice ad masquerading as an article, though.
 
2013-11-20 10:38:26 AM  
That's the same idea as the Eddie Bauer Ford Explorer.
Labeling.
 
2013-11-20 10:42:06 AM  
I've actually got a WWII Willys and this is nothing like it.

Here she is during engine rebuild a couple winters ago:
img.fark.net

Jeep came out with a WWII tribute Wranger a few years back that was done far better than the one in the article.
 
2013-11-20 10:42:42 AM  
How do they get away with charging that much for a fun, yet mechanically-inferior, vehicle?

The ride is hard and the gas mileage is poor compared to most anything out there.
 
2013-11-20 10:44:02 AM  
Obligatory:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD78rTF0Rjo

Just
Enough
Essential
Parts
 
2013-11-20 10:49:32 AM  

fickenchucker: How do they get away with charging that much for a fun, yet mechanically-inferior, vehicle?

The ride is hard and the gas mileage is poor compared to most anything out there.


Neither of those qualifications should even be considered when choosing a wrangler.  That's the market the new Cherokee is supposed to cover.
 
2013-11-20 10:52:34 AM  

fickenchucker: How do they get away with charging that much for a fun, yet mechanically-inferior, vehicle?

The ride is hard and the gas mileage is poor compared to most anything out there.


You're not buying a jeep for either fuel economy or ride.
 
2013-11-20 11:04:11 AM  
You'll be the baddest dude in the mall parking lot.
 
2013-11-20 11:07:16 AM  

Driedsponge: fickenchucker: How do they get away with charging that much for a fun, yet mechanically-inferior, vehicle?

The ride is hard and the gas mileage is poor compared to most anything out there.

Neither of those qualifications should even be considered when choosing a wrangler.  That's the market the new Cherokee is supposed to cover.


Kygz: fickenchucker: How do they get away with charging that much for a fun, yet mechanically-inferior, vehicle?

The ride is hard and the gas mileage is poor compared to most anything out there.

You're not buying a jeep for either fuel economy or ride.


Thanks--at least I know I'm not crazy.  Apparently I'm boring.
 
2013-11-20 11:12:12 AM  
Can I take it apart in 10 minutes with three friends?  No.  Then it is not a Willy.
 
2013-11-20 11:17:06 AM  

kenfury: Can I take it apart in 10 minutes with three friends?  No.  Then it is not a Willy. I don't have three friends.


Just kidding. Well, for you. I truly don't have three friends.
 
2013-11-20 11:20:53 AM  
The package includes a blacked-out grille, logos and 17-inch wheels come with military stencil-style "Willys" logos on the hood and a "4 Wheel Drive" rear tailgate decal.

OMFGWTFBBQ!!!1111 I CAME!!!
Charge me thou$and$ more !
 
2013-11-20 11:30:07 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Yes, the old Jeeps are super stable at highway speeds.


My '77 CJ did just fine on the highway at 75-80 mph, which is pretty much "highway speed" all across the country. The '93 Wrangler I used to own, and the '93 Cherokee I currently have don e fine as well. Maybe you don't know how to drive?

Or better yet, maybe you've never actually driven a Jeep and don't know what you're actually talking about?
 
2013-11-20 11:32:00 AM  
At the age I was reading these ads, $30 was more money than I could amass. By the time I could earn it, I was old enough to know there would be a catch.

img.fark.net
 
2013-11-20 11:34:45 AM  

Kygz: I've actually got a WWII Willys and this is nothing like it.

Here she is during engine rebuild a couple winters ago:
[img.fark.net image 720x540]

Jeep came out with a WWII tribute Wranger a few years back that was done far better than the one in the article.


Those things are farking amazing, watching the old film... Especially knowing how shiatty those "tactical tires" really are...
 
2013-11-20 11:35:27 AM  
I always wanted a Samurai as a kid.

www.rallytops.com
 
2013-11-20 11:38:08 AM  

Son of Thunder


Does that mean that they'll be bring back the Joes to go with 'em?


farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2013-11-20 11:39:20 AM  

MrSteve007: That reminds me, I should do a little work on my two '48 Willys trucks this weekend.

//top speed, 42 mph


Is this a thing with military vehicles in general (heh :) ?  My friend's deuce and a half maxes out around 56 (claimed), downhill, with a tailwind, engine about to explode.

/Thing's a farking RIOT to drive..
//Also turns heads everywhere it goes, and it goes pretty much anywhere.
 
2013-11-20 11:39:25 AM  

brachiopod: At the age I was reading these ads, $30 was more money than I could amass. By the time I could earn it, I was old enough to know there would be a catch.

[img.fark.net image 681x504]


I remember that ad!

I wonder if it was really possible for a regular guy to get a single cheap jeep, or if you had to be a dealer and buy dozen shrink wrapped together.
 
2013-11-20 11:47:51 AM  
Here's my beast the day I bought her:

www.quadratec.com

Real jeeps stopped with the invention of the Wrangler.
 
2013-11-20 11:48:17 AM  

SpectroBoy: The old ones were simple in design, light weight, easy to fix, inexpensive, and pretty much stripped out to bare bones.

The article is about a Jeep Wrangler with blacked out trim and a some stickers on it.


Jeep Wranglers are easy to fix as well. Not as easy as a classic Willys, sure, but for a modern vehicle, yes. Straight-six engines leave a lot of room on the sides, whereas your typical modern-day vehicle requires one to have hands the size of a toddler's in order to work on them.

You tell me what other modern vehicles allow you to change out the oil filter without even crawling underneath.

I miss my Jeep.
 
2013-11-20 11:51:18 AM  
Long ago, a friend of the family supposedly took his restored Willys Jeep into several Arizona National Guard exercises late at night (drive pasta sleeping sentry in the middle of the desert or just enter the area cross-country) He really enjoyed tooling through the encampments knocking things over and trashing the place while the Guard units tried to figure out which one of their members got drunk in Tucson and came back with a chip on their shoulder.
 
2013-11-20 11:52:04 AM  
Ooh, fancy. Does it have NAV and heated seats just like the WW2 version?
 
2013-11-20 11:58:12 AM  

tricycleracer: I always wanted a Samurai as a kid.

[www.rallytops.com image 600x450]


Samurai's were on tough off road vehicle, so light they basically walked across the mud when muddin'
 
2013-11-20 12:02:37 PM  
I've always kinda wanted a jeep.
 
2013-11-20 12:04:19 PM  

PsychoPhil: MrSteve007: That reminds me, I should do a little work on my two '48 Willys trucks this weekend.

//top speed, 42 mph

Is this a thing with military vehicles in general (heh :) ?  My friend's deuce and a half maxes out around 56 (claimed), downhill, with a tailwind, engine about to explode.

/Thing's a farking RIOT to drive..
//Also turns heads everywhere it goes, and it goes pretty much anywhere.


The original HMMVS we got for our unit didn't go much above 60ish.  Frankly, there is no real need for speed much above that.  You can only really drive that safely on really good, maintained road systems or on very flat ground where you KNOW there are no surprise holes, ditches or the like.  In places where we have been fighting in the past 30 years, those don't really exist.    If you need to get people, equipment or ordinance there faster, use something that flies.
 
2013-11-20 12:07:44 PM  
1. Fire design staff and remake old models
2. ?
3. Profit
 
2013-11-20 12:10:48 PM  

danknerd: tricycleracer: I always wanted a Samurai as a kid.

[www.rallytops.com image 600x450]

Samurai's were on tough off road vehicle, so light they basically walked across the mud when muddin'


My dad picked up a Samurai in Arizona a few years back. He takes it wheeling all the time. Not much mud in the desert, but it'll go just about anywhere.

He just got it upgraded with a bigger engine (I think a 1.6), though - the tiny stock engine just didn't cut it on the highway.

Too bad it got such a bad rap.
 
2013-11-20 12:13:53 PM  
I was poised to feel the feel of 'want'! It didn't happen
 
2013-11-20 12:15:31 PM  

Lando Lincoln: You tell me what other modern vehicles allow you to change out the oil filter without even crawling underneath.


Well, a 2009 Volvo XC70 T6 and a 2010 Volswagen Touareg 3.0 TDI, for two.

When Jeep puts a turbodiesel in the Wrangler (for the US market...can already get one in the UK), it will be unbeatable. Till then...I can go pretty much anywhere I want to with my Touareg, and do it a lot more comfortably.  And it gets 28 mpg on the highway with Goodyear Wranglers on it.

/But then, you could almost buy TWO base Jeep Wranglers for the price of the Touareg....
 
2013-11-20 12:16:57 PM  

Fubegra: danknerd: tricycleracer: I always wanted a Samurai as a kid.

[www.rallytops.com image 600x450]

Samurai's were on tough off road vehicle, so light they basically walked across the mud when muddin'

My dad picked up a Samurai in Arizona a few years back. He takes it wheeling all the time. Not much mud in the desert, but it'll go just about anywhere.

He just got it upgraded with a bigger engine (I think a 1.6), though - the tiny stock engine just didn't cut it on the highway.

Too bad it got such a bad rap.


Used to call it "Suzuki Somersault"
 
2013-11-20 12:27:30 PM  

Mikey1969: My '77 CJ did just fine on the highway at 75-80 mph, which is pretty much "highway speed" all across the country. The '93 Wrangler I used to own, and the '93 Cherokee I currently have don e fine as well. Maybe you don't know how to drive?Or better yet, maybe you've never actually driven a Jeep and don't know what you're actually talking about?


About a decade ago, just out of college, I did a West Coast roadtrip with a ladyfriend of mine. We took her early 90's Wrangler (square headlights) with the ~110 horsepower 2.5L engine. My god that thing was a gutless POS. It was the 4-banger version, and she made the unfortunate decision to put slightly oversized tires on it. I'm pretty sure we'd be able to get up to 70mph after about 30 seconds of acceleration, but I do remember traveling up and over the "grapevine" outside of LA, only being able to maintain 40mph up the hill.

I forget exactly what went wrong on the way back up, but near Half Moon Bay, something gave out on the engine, requiring an unplanned 4-day pitstop with a local mechanic.

It was pretty much was simultaneously both the best and the worst road trip vehicle ever.
 
2013-11-20 12:38:29 PM  

Calmamity: So, just like the Nu Beetle, it's a completely different car with the same name as the original?

Pass.


See GTO, Pontiac:
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-11-20 12:43:36 PM  
Back in the '70s my cousin had a WWII vintage Willys Jeep. He installed the 455 engine from his dad's stock car into it. Ridiculously quick. He destroyed the engine, when he snuck onto our property to steal gas from our 500 gallon tank, and my step-dad forgot to tell him that he'd filled it with diesel for our new tractor and VW Rabbit.
 
2013-11-20 12:44:08 PM  
The CJ-5 was the last decent Jeep. Starting with the CJ-7 it has been a continual nosedive, only varying in pitch and speed.
 
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