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2013-11-20 07:15:56 AM
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"I'm so hungry"
 
2013-11-20 07:17:28 AM
These injuries will continue to be problematic for a number of years, if not the rest of your life.

We can only hope.

What is a P plate?
 
2013-11-20 07:20:08 AM
It's a shame that so many lives can be affected by one moment of stupidity.  I feel bad for eveyrone involved, although I feel very little sympathy toward him.
 
2013-11-20 07:21:48 AM
Three years and imprisonment and a decade-long suspension for killing someone with the weapons of stupidity and a car? Not enough. This guy should spend at least a decade in prison and be barred from ever driving again. When he is finally released, he should make monthly payments to the family until he dies.
 
2013-11-20 07:24:33 AM

Cold_Sassy: These injuries will continue to be problematic for a number of years, if not the rest of your life.

We can only hope.

What is a P plate?

Provisional driver I would say.
 
2013-11-20 07:25:31 AM
" Cold_Sassy [TotalFark]:What is a P plate?"

I think I can answer this. A P plate is a specially designed plate, typically constructed from ceramics, copper and titanium, usually 360 degrees in circumference. You pee in it.
 
2013-11-20 07:29:33 AM

Cold_Sassy: What is a P plate?


In Australia it means the driver has a provisional licence. ie he's only had it 1 or 2 years. They are also (supposed) to obey a range of restrictions, which vary from state to state.
 
2013-11-20 07:33:00 AM
When intentionally impairing your judgement, do not operate any kind of equipment that can conceivably endanger someone as a result of the operator making a bad judgement call.

This means don't take LSD and then clean your gun collection, don't light up a joint and then drive a car, don't pull several all-nighters in a row before starting up your wrecking ball, and don't drink a fifth of scotch before doing your lion-taming demonstration.

I feel like this is something that anyone of sufficient IQ and education to figure out how to put a key in the ignition of an automobile should have worked out automatically, and it still confuses the hell out of me that people seem to miss it entirely.
 
2013-11-20 07:37:08 AM
"Scene of the Smash" goes on my list of possible names for my next band.
 
2013-11-20 07:39:22 AM
Texting "I'm so drunk" before driving anywhere is a brilliant idea.

We'll finally be able to get rid of the alcoholics once and for all.

/encourage everyone you know to text "I'm so drunk" before drunk driving.
 
2013-11-20 07:40:55 AM

FuzedBox: Three years and imprisonment and a decade-long suspension for killing someone with the weapons of stupidity and a car? Not enough. This guy should spend at least a decade in prison and be barred from ever driving again. When he is finally released, he should make monthly payments to the family until he dies.


Nah. We need that jail cell for someone with a dime bag of weed. Or a guy who is black.
 
2013-11-20 07:41:27 AM

FuzedBox: Three years and imprisonment and a decade-long suspension for killing someone with the weapons of stupidity and a car? Not enough. This guy should spend at least a decade in prison and be barred from ever driving again. When he is finally released, he should make monthly payments to the family until he dies.


Agreed.  Drunk drivers get off WAY too easy.  Had a good friend killed at 16 by a drunk driver.  He was out a few years later.

First charge, a year in jail license suspended another year.  Second charge, five years in jail license restricted indefinitely.  Injure someone, five years, license restricted indefinitely.  Kill someone, 15 years, license revoked for life.
 
2013-11-20 07:45:17 AM

AngryDragon: First charge, a year in jail license suspended another year. Second charge, five years in jail license restricted indefinitely. Injure someone, five years, license restricted indefinitely. Kill someone, 15 years, license revoked for life.


lol  You think drunks will stop driving without a license.

/You could cut off their arms and legs and they'd still drive.
 
2013-11-20 07:48:02 AM

AngryDragon: Agreed.  Drunk drivers get off WAY too easy.  Had a good friend killed at 16 by a drunk driver.  He was out a few years later.

First charge, a year in jail license suspended another year.  Second charge, five years in jail license restricted indefinitely.  Injure someone, five years, license restricted indefinitely.  Kill someone, 15 years, license revoked for life.


Wow, where do you live that a conviction of negligent homicide / involuntary manslaughter doesn't have a minimum sentence?  I was under the impression that in most jurisdictions the minimum penalty is three years plus.

Maybe he bargained down to something that allowed him to plead no contest on the homicide charge?
 
2013-11-20 07:49:19 AM

fluffy2097: AngryDragon: First charge, a year in jail license suspended another year. Second charge, five years in jail license restricted indefinitely. Injure someone, five years, license restricted indefinitely. Kill someone, 15 years, license revoked for life.

lol  You think drunks will stop driving without a license.

/You could cut off their arms and legs and they'd still drive.


Cut off their heads and they can't.

#guillotinedrunks
 
2013-11-20 07:51:15 AM

Bigdogdaddy: Cold_Sassy: These injuries will continue to be problematic for a number of years, if not the rest of your life.

We can only hope.

What is a P plate?
Provisional driver I would say.


Came for what the hell is a P plate, leaving satisfied.
 
2013-11-20 07:51:39 AM

FuzedBox: Three years and imprisonment and a decade-long suspension for killing someone with the weapons of stupidity and a car? Not enough. This guy should spend at least a decade in prison and be barred from ever driving again. When he is finally released, he should make monthly payments to the family until he dies.


Why jail an otherwise harmless person for that long? Even the family said they were good with the sentence. Small jail time is adequate, and he shouldn't be allowed to own a car or get a license for the rest of his life.

Point is, you don't take a bad situation and make it worse. Making people suffer endlessly in prison does not make the world a better place nor does it resurrect the deceased.
 
2013-11-20 07:52:56 AM

fluffy2097: AngryDragon: First charge, a year in jail license suspended another year. Second charge, five years in jail license restricted indefinitely. Injure someone, five years, license restricted indefinitely. Kill someone, 15 years, license revoked for life.

lol  You think drunks will stop driving without a license.

/You could cut off their arms and legs and they'd still drive.


That's why once could be a normal person making a ridiculously stupid mistake.  After that, no mercy.
 
2013-11-20 07:55:44 AM
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2013-11-20 07:55:48 AM
Thank you Bigdogdaddyand Archie Goodwin.

/Nice effort DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks, you will receive your trophy at the end of the school day.
 
2013-11-20 07:59:18 AM

Jim_Callahan: AngryDragon: Agreed.  Drunk drivers get off WAY too easy.  Had a good friend killed at 16 by a drunk driver.  He was out a few years later.

First charge, a year in jail license suspended another year.  Second charge, five years in jail license restricted indefinitely.  Injure someone, five years, license restricted indefinitely.  Kill someone, 15 years, license revoked for life.

Wow, where do you live that a conviction of negligent homicide / involuntary manslaughter doesn't have a minimum sentence?  I was under the impression that in most jurisdictions the minimum penalty is three years plus.

Maybe he bargained down to something that allowed him to plead no contest on the homicide charge?


I was just discussing this with a co-worker, and he suggested that this boy had connections.  He sure looks like a spoiled little sissy.

He'd be great in a remake of Deliverance; hopefully they'll do it in prison.
 
2013-11-20 08:04:18 AM
"Cold_Sassy [TotalFark]: /Nice effort DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks, you will receive your trophy at the end of the school day."

Thank you ever so much, will it be tin plated?
 
2013-11-20 08:08:32 AM

MayoSlather: FuzedBox: Three years and imprisonment and a decade-long suspension for killing someone with the weapons of stupidity and a car? Not enough. This guy should spend at least a decade in prison and be barred from ever driving again. When he is finally released, he should make monthly payments to the family until he dies.

Why jail an otherwise harmless person for that long? Even the family said they were good with the sentence. Small jail time is adequate, and he shouldn't be allowed to own a car or get a license for the rest of his life.

Point is, you don't take a bad situation and make it worse. Making people suffer endlessly in prison does not make the world a better place nor does it resurrect the deceased.


I see no difference between a drunk getting behind the wheel and a paranoid schizophrenic person deciding to take a stroll through the mall with a pocket pistol, even if that person is usually harmless. You see, the crime itself is the blunder to make the fatal decision.
 
2013-11-20 08:11:00 AM

Jim_Callahan: AngryDragon: Agreed.  Drunk drivers get off WAY too easy.  Had a good friend killed at 16 by a drunk driver.  He was out a few years later.

First charge, a year in jail license suspended another year.  Second charge, five years in jail license restricted indefinitely.  Injure someone, five years, license restricted indefinitely.  Kill someone, 15 years, license revoked for life.

Wow, where do you live that a conviction of negligent homicide / involuntary manslaughter doesn't have a minimum sentence?  I was under the impression that in most jurisdictions the minimum penalty is three years plus.

Maybe he bargained down to something that allowed him to plead no contest on the homicide charge?


Might have been many years ago. West Virginia's penalty for killing someone while driving drunk used to be one year in jail until a drunk driver fleeing on the wrong side of I-81 took out five people.
 
2013-11-20 08:13:22 AM

FuzedBox: I see no difference between a drunk getting behind the wheel and a paranoid schizophrenic person deciding to take a stroll through the mall with a pocket pistol, even if that person is usually harmless. You see, the crime itself is the blunder to make the fatal decision.


So you drunk think drivers deserve to be in psychiatric care?
 
2013-11-20 08:13:52 AM

FuzedBox: MayoSlather: FuzedBox: Three years and imprisonment and a decade-long suspension for killing someone with the weapons of stupidity and a car? Not enough. This guy should spend at least a decade in prison and be barred from ever driving again. When he is finally released, he should make monthly payments to the family until he dies.

Why jail an otherwise harmless person for that long? Even the family said they were good with the sentence. Small jail time is adequate, and he shouldn't be allowed to own a car or get a license for the rest of his life.

Point is, you don't take a bad situation and make it worse. Making people suffer endlessly in prison does not make the world a better place nor does it resurrect the deceased.

I see no difference between a drunk getting behind the wheel and a paranoid schizophrenic person deciding to take a stroll through the mall with a pocket pistol, even if that person is usually harmless. You see, the crime itself is the blunder to make the fatal decision.


So you're saying the drunk should be able to plea insanity?
 
2013-11-20 08:15:57 AM

Jim_Callahan: Wow, where do you live that a conviction of negligent homicide / involuntary manslaughter doesn't have a minimum sentence?  I was under the impression that in most jurisdictions the minimum penalty is three years plus.


This was quite a while ago and yes he got three years.

MayoSlather: Why jail an otherwise harmless person for that long?


Sorry, once you've killed someone through gross negligence you are no longer harmless.
 
2013-11-20 08:16:00 AM

MayoSlather: FuzedBox: Three years and imprisonment and a decade-long suspension for killing someone with the weapons of stupidity and a car? Not enough. This guy should spend at least a decade in prison and be barred from ever driving again. When he is finally released, he should make monthly payments to the family until he dies.

Why jail an otherwise harmless person for that long? Even the family said they were good with the sentence. Small jail time is adequate, and he shouldn't be allowed to own a car or get a license for the rest of his life.

Point is, you don't take a bad situation and make it worse. Making people suffer endlessly in prison does not make the world a better place nor does it resurrect the deceased.


depends what you think prison is for. punishment? rehab? safety of the public?
 
2013-11-20 08:17:54 AM
So what made him crash, the booze or the texting?
 
2013-11-20 08:25:03 AM

Lady J: MayoSlather: FuzedBox: Three years and imprisonment and a decade-long suspension for killing someone with the weapons of stupidity and a car? Not enough. This guy should spend at least a decade in prison and be barred from ever driving again. When he is finally released, he should make monthly payments to the family until he dies.

Why jail an otherwise harmless person for that long? Even the family said they were good with the sentence. Small jail time is adequate, and he shouldn't be allowed to own a car or get a license for the rest of his life.

Point is, you don't take a bad situation and make it worse. Making people suffer endlessly in prison does not make the world a better place nor does it resurrect the deceased.

depends what you think prison is for. punishment? rehab? safety of the public?


Yes.

I really do mean all three inclusive.  I fully agree with the family, the jail term may be enough for him and his driving privileges should be removed permanently.

I do know a guy who lost his driving privileges for over 20 years after a DUI fatal accident.  He managed to get cars to drive, which only ended once the cops got wind of it.  Recently he has gotten his license and has been behaving himself in a safe manner.
 
2013-11-20 08:25:51 AM
Note to self: no sarcastic texting before driving.

/Not serious.
//I realize they test for alcohol after vehicular manslaughter.
 
2013-11-20 08:35:29 AM

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: "Cold_Sassy [TotalFark]: /Nice effort DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks, you will receive your trophy at the end of the school day."

Thank you ever so much, will it be tin plated?


Nah, it's just the standard cheap plastic crap all of the other kids will be getting.
 
2013-11-20 08:37:21 AM

AngryDragon: Sorry, once you've killed someone through gross negligence you are no longer harmless.


When the object of negligence, in this case the car, is removed from the equation he is harmless.

Lady J: depends what you think prison is for. punishment? rehab? safety of the public?


All of the above, with reasoned thought ascribing the proportions of each in the system. Although using the blunt force of punishment seems to be the only one we care about.
 
2013-11-20 08:39:04 AM
AngryDragon: Sorry, once you've killed someone through gross negligence you are no longer harmless.

Wait so one mistake means you are branded for life?  I mean lock him up for life he's ready to kill again.
 
2013-11-20 08:42:31 AM

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: "Cold_Sassy [TotalFark]: /Nice effort DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks, you will receive your trophy at the end of the school day."

Thank you ever so much, will it be tin plated?


Moss covered.
 
2013-11-20 08:48:44 AM

TNel: AngryDragon: Sorry, once you've killed someone through gross negligence you are no longer harmless.

Wait so one mistake means you are branded for life?  I mean lock him up for life he's ready to kill again.


At the other extreme in Virginia you could kill two people and spend no time in jail/prison if you were rich and well connected.
 
2013-11-20 08:53:13 AM

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"I'm so hungry"


I shouldn't have eated all the cake:

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2013-11-20 09:01:39 AM

TNel: Wait so one mistake means you are branded for life? I mean lock him up for life he's ready to kill again.


You chose to get drunk, and then you chose to drive a car.

There is no mistake involved.

/No officer, I accidentally drank 10 shots. I thought they were water. Then I accidentally walked to my car, and accidentally took my keys out of my pocket, Accidentally started my car, it accidentally slipped into drive and I accidentally went 15 miles before I made a single mistake and accidentally murdered someone.
 
2013-11-20 09:03:03 AM

fluffy2097: TNel: Wait so one mistake means you are branded for life? I mean lock him up for life he's ready to kill again.

You chose to get drunk, and then you chose to drive a car.

There is no mistake involved.

/No officer, I accidentally drank 10 shots. I thought they were water. Then I accidentally walked to my car, and accidentally took my keys out of my pocket, Accidentally started my car, it accidentally slipped into drive and I accidentally went 15 miles before I made a single mistake and accidentally murdered someone.


The car crash is labeled an accident right?  It's not like he said "Lets get drunk and smash into another car so I can kill someone"
 
2013-11-20 09:04:43 AM
I farking hate drunk drivers with a passion. The real problem is that the penalties are just not there to make it hurt.

You wanna make people really think about getting behind the wheel after they get lit up? You have to make it painful for them. Seize their car and sell it off. That or fine them the value of their vehicle.

The other think that incenses me is the wide availability of chilled singles with ghetto koozies at stop 'n' robs. They are doing everything they can to promote drinking and driving. You really can't wait till you get home to put one back? fark you, you have a problem that alcohol will not fix.
 
2013-11-20 09:06:43 AM
TNel:  "Lets get drunk and smash into another car so I can kill someone"

Yes. That is what you are attempting to do when you drive drunk.

/Ignorance is not an excuse.
 
2013-11-20 09:14:45 AM
An article was posted here last year or the year before if i recall correctly where a drunk woman drove her car around the block several times and ran people over because she was either kicked out of a bar for being drunk or they just wouldn't let her in. She even admitted she was looking to run people over but claimed that it "wasn't her character" or something like that and they charged her with some inane little charge that carried like 30 days in jail or something. Drunk driving laws are way too relaxed.
 
2013-11-20 09:16:14 AM

fluffy2097: TNel: Wait so one mistake means you are branded for life? I mean lock him up for life he's ready to kill again.

You chose to get drunk, and then you chose to drive a car.

There is no mistake involved.

/No officer, I accidentally drank 10 shots. I thought they were water. Then I accidentally walked to my car, and accidentally took my keys out of my pocket, Accidentally started my car, it accidentally slipped into drive and I accidentally went 15 miles before I made a single mistake and accidentally murdered someone.


That's right, folks. You're making a conscious, deliberate, well-thought out judgement call that is no way interfered with, until you crash into someone because you're inebriated and as a result, have poor judgement.
 
2013-11-20 09:18:01 AM
hang on a minute, are there really people arguing/trolling that there's nothing worng with drink driving unless you kill someone?
 
2013-11-20 09:20:17 AM

Lady J: hang on a minute, are there really people arguing/trolling that there's nothing worng with drink driving unless you kill someone?


I don't think so. I was using sarcasm to point out the flaw in fluffy2097's reasoning, not advocating drunking and then driving. I think fluffy2097 is taking a more absolutist standpoint that if you have the judgement to go out and have a drink, you have the judgement to put away your keys, whereas I am endeavouring to point out that drinking makes you have bad judgement and you may no longer have the judgement to give up your keys by the time you finish drunking.

I don't think either of us is saying driving drunk is good, though.
 
2013-11-20 09:21:50 AM

fluffy2097: TNel:  "Lets get drunk and smash into another car so I can kill someone"

Yes. That is what you are attempting to do when you drive drunk.

/Ignorance is not an excuse.


So every time someone drives drunk they kill someone?
 
2013-11-20 09:25:20 AM

Lady J: hang on a minute, are there really people arguing/trolling that there's nothing worng with drink driving unless you kill someone?


Even worse.  There are idiots suggesting that murdering someone with a vehicle because you were an irresponsible asshole is forgivable.
 
2013-11-20 09:25:21 AM
AngryDragon:
Agreed.  Drunk drivers get off WAY too easy.  Had a good friend killed at 16 by a drunk driver.  He was out a few years later.

First charge, a year in jail license suspended another year.  Second charge, five years in jail license restricted indefinitely.  Injure someone, five years, license restricted indefinitely.  Kill someone, 15 years, license revoked for life.


Alcoholism is a disease, but it's the only disease you can get yelled at for having jailed for years for having.

Fark is all about rehabilitation instead of punishment after a crime, unless the crime is drunk driving.  Honestly, rehabilitation is the ONLY thing that will help an alcoholic out, and it's the one crime that seems to get the knee-jerks to want to throw away the key.

Nobody chooses to be an alcoholic.  Count your blessings that it hasn't afflicted you.
 
2013-11-20 09:25:47 AM
Tricky problem.

Breathalyzers in all cars? Of course, to be fair we'd need a way to test for fatigue and distraction, too - tired/fatigued driving is, I think, a much bigger problem than drunk driving, particularly in cases with low BAC.

Better public transportation? Moneys.

But hey, we have the Best Prison System in the World*, let us put more people in it!
 
2013-11-20 09:30:52 AM

Whiskey Dickens: AngryDragon:
Agreed.  Drunk drivers get off WAY too easy.  Had a good friend killed at 16 by a drunk driver.  He was out a few years later.

First charge, a year in jail license suspended another year.  Second charge, five years in jail license restricted indefinitely.  Injure someone, five years, license restricted indefinitely.  Kill someone, 15 years, license revoked for life.

Alcoholism is a disease, but it's the only disease you can get yelled at for having jailed for years for having.

Fark is all about rehabilitation instead of punishment after a crime, unless the crime is drunk driving.  Honestly, rehabilitation is the ONLY thing that will help an alcoholic out, and it's the one crime that seems to get the knee-jerks to want to throw away the key.

Nobody chooses to be an alcoholic.  Count your blessings that it hasn't afflicted you.


My ex wife was a drug addict.  I have complete sympathy for someone who has an addiction and yes they should get treatment.

That is NOT what we're talking about here.  We're talking about causing someone's death, an irrevocable event, due to the worst kind of negligence.  If my wife had allowed our son to die because he was having a medical emergency and she was too wasted to help him, should she have been treated?  Yes.  Should she be in jail?  Absolutely.

If someone is compelled to self-destruction for whatever reason, it's their problem and we should do everything in our power to help them out of it.  As soon as that behavior affects another person it is simply a criminal act.  Period.
 
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