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2013-11-19 07:00:09 PM  
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Opponents of fixing the filibuster are worried that disaster could strike if and when Republicans hold the White House and Senate again, if filibuster rules are weakened.

But this is foolish and shortsighted. For the next two years there is no danger as a Democratic President continues to hold the White House. Beyond that, the likelihood that the GOP will hold both Presidency and Senate is low. And if that should come to pass, then the American people should quite frankly get the government they voted for, without a continual run of judicial filibusters from Democrats (to say nothing of the fact that Democrats won't be as obstructionist as Republicans in that situation, a fact that by itself creates a structural advantage for Republicans as long as current rules are in place.) Link

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2013-11-19 07:18:20 PM  
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Dusk-You-n-Me: Opponents of fixing the filibuster are worried that disaster could strike if and when Republicans hold the White House and Senate again, if filibuster rules are weakened.


And remember what happened when that occurred? The Republicans made a deal that the Democrats had to approve everyone and the Democrats took it. So what the hell is the down side. Currently it is the Republicans can use it and the Democrats can't.
2013-11-19 09:19:40 PM  
1 vote:
Boxer and Feinstein have never said that they were willing to do filibuster reform before. Now they are. That does, actually, mean something. Both of them have considerable seniority.

These are the senators remaining who may not vote for filibuster reform:
Pryor
Durbin
Levin (an asshole)
Landrieu
Baucus (because he's a worthless sack of shiat)
Vin Diesel Cory Booker (because he really believes that "both sides are the same" nonsense)

There are 55 members of the Democratic conference. That takes us to 49 votes. Durbin has now changed his mind and is likely to join filibuster reform; that brings us to 50 votes and Biden breaking the tie. If Cory Booker has signaled that he'll play ball, that gets us to 51. Landrieu, Baucus, and Levin will probably not change their minds. Mark Pryor has actually shown a backbone for once in his life; he's getting hammered on judicial nominees, so he may vote for filibuster reform and come out swinging to bring it to 52.

I've been following filibuster reform for a long time - I think the filibuster is one of the most obnoxious parts of our Senate. This is the first time that I've seen a whip count and gone "Yeah, they probably have the votes."
2013-11-19 07:24:38 PM  
1 vote:

quizzical: The biggest argument against it that I've heard is that it could backfire on the Democrats when they are eventually the minority party again.


If the current Republican party gains control of the Senate, they're going to enact their own filibuster reform anyway. There's no way the Tea Party lets Democrats stop them from passing their bills.
2013-11-19 07:16:49 PM  
1 vote:
This drive me nuts. The Republicans are doing something they said themselves was unconstitutional.

I know republicans never actually pay attention to what they say but why does no one every call them on it?

It's sad because they are dishonest so often no one if pays attention when they do it anymore.
 
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