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(Jezebel)   Six-year-old from Oregon saves mom's life by using skills learned from Mrs. Doubtfire. No, the skill wasn't cross-dressing   (jezebel.com) divider line 7
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2013-11-19 05:13:57 PM  
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KingKauff: I always thought that when CPR is done properly that you would have a cracked rib or two


Unless you're doing it on said 6 yearold, yes. You will break ribs. Especially on the elderly.

LordBeavis: Is the heimlich maneuver considered CPR?


If they're unconscious, the AHA 2010 guidelines for basic life support state you immediately start chest compressions, and at each ventilatory attempt, you examine the mouth after opening it to see if you can see the foreign object to remove. Otherwise resume compressions.
2013-11-19 06:43:21 PM  
1 votes:
First thing that occurred to me while reading this story was that it's good she didn't learn the maneuver from a transvestite....

goodole312: KingKauff: Nogale: From the article: "Although we should probably not regularly use CPR we learn in movies - that's how ribs get broken and people playing cardiothoracic surgeon cut into major veins and kill people"

I'd rather have a broken rib than a stopped heart.

I always thought that when CPR is done properly that you would have a cracked rib or two

thats what ive always heard


From what I recall when I was younger and my mother was an EMT/CPR instructor, breaking the cartilage attaching the ribs to the sternum has a high probability, moreso for the elderly but not 100%.

I remember one night after she came back from a large class she taught alongside another instructor where she was royally pissed that the other one flat-out told the class that if they didn't hear the ribs break during CPR, they weren't compressing hard enough.

/She was a volunteer firefighter where I grew up for several years, watching shows/movies with fire or emergency scenes was a quick way to hear some rants about how it was being done wrong.
2013-11-19 05:34:15 PM  
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vabeard: I always preferred the pre-cordial thump.


/no longer used.


Nah, it's still used in a limited capacity. ACLS for the Experienced Provider has a lot more on it than standard ACLS (Like how it's a bad idea to hit the guy with the LVAD in), but they only use it now if a sudden cardiac arrest patient is on a monitor, they witness new onset v-fib on said monitor, and a defibrillator is not immediately available.

If you want to see stuff that will freak you out, ask to shadow in a university-level cardiac surgery ICU, and watch an LVAD/BiVAD patient. Setting there, talking to you, and in V-Fib. And no palpable pulse. Technology is awesome.
2013-11-19 05:25:22 PM  
1 votes:

KingKauff: Nogale: From the article: "Although we should probably not regularly use CPR we learn in movies - that's how ribs get broken and people playing cardiothoracic surgeon cut into major veins and kill people"

I'd rather have a broken rib than a stopped heart.

I always thought that when CPR is done properly that you would have a cracked rib or two


thats what ive always heard
2013-11-19 04:55:41 PM  
1 votes:

Nogale: From the article: "Although we should probably not regularly use CPR we learn in movies - that's how ribs get broken and people playing cardiothoracic surgeon cut into major veins and kill people"

I'd rather have a broken rib than a stopped heart.


I always thought that when CPR is done properly that you would have a cracked rib or two
2013-11-19 04:55:16 PM  
1 votes:

Nogale: From the article: "Although we should probably not regularly use CPR we learn in movies - that's how ribs get broken and people playing cardiothoracic surgeon cut into major veins and kill people"

I'd rather have a broken rib than a stopped heart.


I saw that and was baffled--who said anything about CPR?  Is the heimlich maneuver considered CPR?
2013-11-19 04:51:19 PM  
1 votes:
From the article: "Although we should probably not regularly use CPR we learn in movies - that's how ribs get broken and people playing cardiothoracic surgeon cut into major veins and kill people"

I'd rather have a broken rib than a stopped heart.
 
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