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2013-11-19 03:57:41 PM
How many countries are in Mexico?
 
2013-11-19 04:11:33 PM
This is what I got clicking on the link:

Please Log In

I guess I'm SOL
 
2013-11-19 04:19:12 PM
It's pronounced, "Meh-HEE-co", you ignorant submitter.
 
2013-11-19 04:23:54 PM
My favorite Mexican country is Quintana Roo.
 
2013-11-19 04:28:06 PM

Lando Lincoln: How many countries are in Mexico?


I don't know but  subby had better move to one of them for the improved schooling.
 
2013-11-19 04:44:21 PM
I bet conservatives would be happier than pigs in shiat that our immigration "problem" is solving itself as the US turns into a 3rd-world shiathole while Mexico's economy improves.

/DRTFA because FTNYT (fark the new york times) and their log-in.
 
2013-11-19 04:58:24 PM
I am OK with this.
Really OK.

/don't have to pass TSA getting there
 
2013-11-19 05:23:03 PM
Hey, my employer's been real big on giving jobs to India.  But now that's become too rich for their blood.  Chile, too.  So now we're going Chinese.

All the flavors of the food court!

I wonder how our customers will like being ultimately served by Bushmen of the Kalahari or as-of-yet undiscovered Amazon tribes?  Not to say there's anything wrong with any other culture.  But we will, at some point, run out of cheap and easily exploitable labor.
 
2013-11-19 05:27:00 PM

Diogenes: Hey, my employer's been real big on giving jobs to India.  But now that's become too rich for their blood.  Chile, too.  So now we're going Chinese.

All the flavors of the food court!

I wonder how our customers will like being ultimately served by Bushmen of the Kalahari or as-of-yet undiscovered Amazon tribes?  Not to say there's anything wrong with any other culture.  But we will, at some point, run out of cheap and easily exploitable labor.


That, my friend, is where the Circle of Life kicks in.
 
2013-11-19 05:33:18 PM
But think of the last guy. For one minute, think of the last
 guy. Nobody's got it worse than that guy. Nobody in the
 whole world. That guy...he's so alone in the world that he
 doesn't even have a street to lay in for a truck to run him over.
 
2013-11-19 05:44:00 PM
PW;DR

/Paywall;Didn't Read
//because slashies
 
2013-11-19 05:45:03 PM
Hit a paywall. Thanks, subby.
 
2013-11-19 05:45:23 PM

blatz514: This is what I got clicking on the link:

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I guess I'm SOL


Got the same thing. Need a different link.
 
2013-11-19 05:46:15 PM

Diogenes: Hey, my employer's been real big on giving jobs to India.  But now that's become too rich for their blood.  Chile, too.  So now we're going Chinese.

All the flavors of the food court!

I wonder how our customers will like being ultimately served by Bushmen of the Kalahari or as-of-yet undiscovered Amazon tribes?  Not to say there's anything wrong with any other culture.  But we will, at some point, run out of cheap and easily exploitable labor.


I find your lack of faith disturbing.
 
2013-11-19 05:46:49 PM
Article? What article?
 
2013-11-19 05:50:25 PM

blatz514: This is what I got clicking on the link:

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I guess I'm SOL


Right, how does a submission where the article requires a log in get greenlit anyway?
 
2013-11-19 05:51:13 PM
First you need to learn how to speak Mexican
 
2013-11-19 05:51:21 PM

iheartscotch: Diogenes: Hey, my employer's been real big on giving jobs to India.  But now that's become too rich for their blood.  Chile, too.  So now we're going Chinese.

All the flavors of the food court!

I wonder how our customers will like being ultimately served by Bushmen of the Kalahari or as-of-yet undiscovered Amazon tribes?  Not to say there's anything wrong with any other culture.  But we will, at some point, run out of cheap and easily exploitable labor.

I find your lack of faith disturbing.


Your sad devotion to outsourcing has not helped you conjure up stolen Chinese patents or given you clairvoyance enough to find the competition's hidden investment portfo-  *ACK*
 
2013-11-19 05:52:13 PM
I remember my visit to Mexico. Me and my two pals came upon this small village called Santa Poco. The local warlord was wrecking havoc on the people of the town until we used our American brains to help them band together and creatively eliminate the threat.
 
2013-11-19 05:53:07 PM
Couldn't read it, but I'm close enough to Mexico as it is. I don't need my severed head ending up on the side of a road.
 
2013-11-19 05:54:10 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: I remember my visit to Mexico. Me and my two pals came upon this small village called Santa Poco. The local warlord was wrecking havoc on the people of the town until we used our American brains to help them band together and creatively eliminate the threat.


"We can sew!"
 
2013-11-19 05:55:08 PM
I have heard tails of this Mek-e-ko. Strange beasts called chupacabra wander the desert dispensing a gum call Chicklettes. They say no one has ever returned, except for my brother-in-law Todd. And he brought with him a really cool looking set of patio furniture. But he hasn't been the same since.
 
2013-11-19 05:55:11 PM
I think this might be the link we're looking for.
 
2013-11-19 05:55:29 PM
DNRTFA because TFA is paywalled

/bye
 
2013-11-19 05:55:48 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: I remember my visit to Mexico. Me and my two pals came upon this small village called Santa Poco. The local warlord was wrecking havoc on the people of the town until we used our American brains to help them band together and creatively eliminate the threat.


static3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-11-19 05:55:55 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: I remember my visit to Mexico. Me and my two pals came upon this small village called Santa Poco. The local warlord was wrecking havoc on the people of the town until we used our American brains to help them band together and creatively eliminate the threat.


Did you become imfamous?
 
2013-11-19 05:56:19 PM
Plus, with everyone getting their heads chopped off by the cartels you have a constant influx of new job openings on the market.
 
2013-11-19 05:56:27 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: I remember my visit to Mexico. Me and my two pals came upon this small village called Santa Poco. The local warlord was wrecking havoc on the people of the town until we used our American brains to help them band together and creatively eliminate the threat.


Can I have your watch when you are dead?
 
2013-11-19 05:56:39 PM

UrukHaiGuyz: Contrabulous Flabtraption: I remember my visit to Mexico. Me and my two pals came upon this small village called Santa Poco. The local warlord was wrecking havoc on the people of the town until we used our American brains to help them band together and creatively eliminate the threat.

"We can sew!"


i272.photobucket.com
I think it's a mail plane!

/one of my favorites
 
2013-11-19 05:57:29 PM

Lando Lincoln: Contrabulous Flabtraption: I remember my visit to Mexico. Me and my two pals came upon this small village called Santa Poco. The local warlord was wrecking havoc on the people of the town until we used our American brains to help them band together and creatively eliminate the threat.

Can I have your watch when you are dead?


Ha! Funny'd.
 
2013-11-19 05:58:17 PM

Fano: Contrabulous Flabtraption: I remember my visit to Mexico. Me and my two pals came upon this small village called Santa Poco. The local warlord was wrecking havoc on the people of the town until we used our American brains to help them band together and creatively eliminate the threat.

Did you become imfamous?


You mean more than famous?
 
2013-11-19 05:58:39 PM

echomike23: Contrabulous Flabtraption: I remember my visit to Mexico. Me and my two pals came upon this small village called Santa Poco. The local warlord was wrecking havoc on the people of the town until we used our American brains to help them band together and creatively eliminate the threat.

[static3.wikia.nocookie.net image 306x227]


was the first thing i thought of...

/damn im out of it....
 
2013-11-19 05:59:33 PM
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...Please suck me sideways. Correct this or delist it modmin..
 
2013-11-19 06:00:16 PM

snocone: But think of the last guy. For one minute, think of the last
 guy. Nobody's got it worse than that guy. Nobody in the
 whole world. That guy...he's so alone in the world that he
 doesn't even have a street to lay in for a truck to run him over.


Where did he get the dime?
 
2013-11-19 06:01:03 PM
Nice link subby.

I cornholed your mom last nite.

Was pretty cool too...her ass is so flat that my beer didn't even spill.
 
2013-11-19 06:01:39 PM

indarwinsshadow: Please Log In


...Please suck me sideways. Correct this or delist it modmin..


Meh, I say let it go. It's a Three Amigos! thread now anyway. I can't even hear the word "veranda" without thinking, "lips would be fine."
 
2013-11-19 06:05:31 PM
Dozens of foreign companies are investing

Sorry, but you don't get any points if your economy is growing because a bunch of companies see you as cheap labor.
 
2013-11-19 06:06:33 PM
"In many ways, central Mexico has already surpassed Detroit."

Well, there's an accomplishment to be proud of.
 
2013-11-19 06:07:58 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: I remember my visit to Mexico. Me and my two pals came upon this small village called Santa Poco. The local warlord was wrecking havoc on the people of the town until we used our American brains to help them band together and creatively eliminate the threat.


Sew like the wind, granny!
 
2013-11-19 06:09:19 PM

FrancoFile: Contrabulous Flabtraption: I remember my visit to Mexico. Me and my two pals came upon this small village called Santa Poco. The local warlord was wrecking havoc on the people of the town until we used our American brains to help them band together and creatively eliminate the threat.

Sew like the wind, granny!

Sew, very old one! Sew like the wind!

FTFY
 
2013-11-19 06:09:40 PM

snocone: I am OK with this.
Really OK.

/don't have to pass TSA getting there


Its good to see some things never change.
 
2013-11-19 06:11:18 PM

snocone: But think of the last guy. For one minute, think of the last
 guy. Nobody's got it worse than that guy. Nobody in the
 whole world. That guy...he's so alone in the world that he
 doesn't even have a street to lay in for a truck to run him over.


That's actually one of the more profound posts I've ever read on here.  Very true.
 
2013-11-19 06:11:21 PM
I'm not sure what is more shocking...the fact that subby's mom agreed to the cleveland steamer or the number of farkers who actually pay for the NYTimes online?
 
2013-11-19 06:12:19 PM
Arizona moon keep shining
from the desert sky above
you know pretty soon
that big yellow moon
will light the way back to the one you love

Blue shadows
on the trail
little cowboy
close your eyes
and dream
all of the dogies are in the corral
all of your work is done
just close your eyes and dream little pal
dream on, someone

bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum...

Blue shadows
on the trail
soft wind blowing
through the trees above
all the other little cowboys
back in the bunk house now
so
close your
eyes and
Dreeeeeeeeeeammmmmm.

Good night dusty
Good night lucky
Good night ned
 
2013-11-19 06:12:23 PM
That settles it, I'm heading to Otatoclan to catch up with my friend. It's been a long goodbye, but he sent me a Madison that says it might be worth it.
 
2013-11-19 06:19:41 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I bet conservatives would be happier than pigs in shiat that our immigration "problem" is solving itself as the US turns into a 3rd-world shiathole while Mexico's economy improves.


Well, I can honestly say I am happy that Mexico is improving both economically and socially.  As for the U.S. being a "3rd-world shiathole" - well I guess if you mean having the largest most productive economy in the world, a tech and science innovation leader, and being consistently ranked high in U.N. and international watchdog quality of life indexes, then yeah, I like this shiathole we are so horribly forced to painfully endure.  You poor dear, you are soooo oppressed!  Tell South Americans how bad you have it!

BTW - I'm liberal on about 80% of issues, Obama Voter, vegetarian environmentalist.  And when I think of grumpy old conservative shaking fist at clouds, your post fits exactly.
 
2013-11-19 06:20:42 PM
For all you "OMG! PAYWALL!" types, here's page 1 of the 2-page article. Want more? Figure out how to engage private browsing in your browser, which is all it takes to defeat the NY Times' feeble paywall.

GUANAJUATO, Mexico - A decade ago, Ivan Zamora, 23, might have already left for the United States. Instead, he graduated in May from a gleaming new university here, then moved on to an engineering internship at one of the many multinational companies just beyond the campus gates.
Country at a Crossroads

His days now begin at dawn inside the new Volkswagen factory a short walk away, and when he leaves at night, he joins a rush of the upwardly mobile - from the cavernous new Pirelli plant next door, an array of Japanese car-parts suppliers and a new Nivea plant on a grassy hillside.

"There's just a lot more opportunity to study and to succeed," Mr. Zamora said at the factory, surrounded by robots, steel, glass and young technicians. "Both my parents are teachers. They lived in an entirely different era."

Education. More sophisticated work. Higher pay. This is the development formula Mexico has been seeking for decades. But after the free-market wave of the 1990s failed to produce much more than low-skilled factory work, Mexico is finally attracting the higher-end industries that experts say could lead to lasting prosperity. Here, in a mostly poor state long known as one of the country's main sources of illegal immigrants to the United States, a new Mexico has begun to emerge.

Dozens of foreign companies are investing, filling in new industrial parks along the highways. Middle-class housing is popping up in former watermelon fields, and new universities are waving in classes of students eager to study engineering, aeronautics and biotechnology, signaling a growing confidence in Mexico's economic future and what many see as the imported meritocracy of international business. In a country where connections and corruption are still common tools of enrichment, many people here are beginning to believe they can get ahead through study and hard work.

Mr. Zamora's new job, for example (he was hired by VW at summer's end), started with his parents prioritizing education, not emigration, and scrimping to give him a computer and, more recently, German lessons. The state of Guanajuato added to their investment by building the affordable polytechnic - part of a public university system that offers technical degrees as well as undergraduate and graduate degrees - and a sprawling interior port to lure the international companies that hire its graduates. And now Mr. Zamora has a job that pays enough to help his sister pursue her dream of studying marine biology.

This is a Mexico far different from the popular American conception: it is neither the grinding, low-skilled assembly work at maquiladoras, the multinational factories near the border, nor the ugliness of drug cartels. But the question many experts and officials are asking is whether Mexico as a whole can keep up with the rising demand for educated labor - and overcome concerns about crime and corruption - to propel its 112 million people into the club of developed nations.

"We are at something of a turning point," said Eric Verhoogen, a professor of economics and international affairs at Columbia University. "The maquila strategy has been revealed not to have been successful, so people are looking around for something new."

The automotive industry has been Mexico's brightest spot so far. In many ways, central Mexico has already surpassed Detroit. There are now more auto-industry jobs in Mexico than in the entire American Midwest. At least 100,000 jobs have been added in Mexico since 2010, according to a recent Brookings Institution report, and General Motors, Ford, Chrysler, Honda, Mazda, Nissan, Audi and Volkswagen have all announced expansion plans, with nearly $10 billion to be invested over the next several years, mainly in a 400-mile corridor from Puebla to Aguascalientes.

The work tends to be better paid than what could be found in the area before the companies arrived. It is still a fraction of the salaries of American workers - many employees on the factory floors in the interior port make around $3.65 an hour - but higher-paid professionals make up about 30 percent of the employees at many auto plants here, roughly twice as much as in the maquiladoras near the border.

And although robotics and other changes have kept overall employment in the industry somewhat limited, more of the industry has moved to Mexico as the car business has recovered. Around 40 percent of all auto-industry jobs in North America are in Mexico, up from 27 percent in 2000 (the Midwest has about 30 percent), and experts say the growth is accelerating, especially in Guanajuato, where state officials have been increasing incentives.
 
Al!
2013-11-19 06:20:43 PM
My company is shipping about 2/3 of the production jobs in my plant to Mexico next year, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies...
 
2013-11-19 06:23:06 PM
So one day will people in Mexico complain about the snowbacks from the north stealing their jerbs?
 
2013-11-19 06:23:44 PM

Diogenes: Hey, my employer's been real big on giving jobs to India.  But now that's become too rich for their blood.  Chile, too.  So now we're going Chinese.

All the flavors of the food court!

I wonder how our customers will like being ultimately served by Bushmen of the Kalahari or as-of-yet undiscovered Amazon tribes?  Not to say there's anything wrong with any other culture.  But we will, at some point, run out of cheap and easily exploitable labor.


as long as we can keep access to sex-ed, birth control and abortions from poor people, there will always be cheap labor.
 
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