If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Slate)   "All of Ryan's ideas to help the poor seem to involve taking money away from low-income people in order to reduce taxes on the rich"   (slate.com) divider line 194
    More: Obvious, welfare, rebrand, incomes  
•       •       •

2861 clicks; posted to Politics » on 19 Nov 2013 at 5:22 PM (39 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



194 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | » | Last | Show all
 
2013-11-19 03:52:38 PM
Article's kinda thin.  Must have had its food stamps taken away.
 
2013-11-19 03:59:48 PM
"Obamacare has failed on day one! It must be obliterated!"
"Hey, we've only given trickle-down economics thirty years to work! Give it time!"
 
2013-11-19 04:06:01 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: "Obamacare has failed on day one! It must be obliterated!"
"Hey, we've only given trickle-down economics thirty years to work! Give it time!"


done in two
 
2013-11-19 04:13:37 PM
What's the benefit of drowning in money, if you have to pay taxes on it? Poor people don't want to get rich, because there's really no upside to it.
 
2013-11-19 04:15:08 PM
This isn't complicated, sheeple. Instead of giving that money to poor people, give it to job creators who might at some point give some of it to poor people. That's how economies grow.
 
2013-11-19 04:21:58 PM
Then you read page after page, trying to figure out what the dude is actually saying he'd do to lower poverty, and here's what you're left with: vouchers, tax credits, and volunteerism.

All sizzle, no steak.

And is that not the story of Rep. Ryan? His is the classic example of the adage that if you've got a reputation for being an early riser, you can sleep til noon. Link
 
2013-11-19 04:25:15 PM

Quasar: This isn't complicated, sheeple. Instead of giving that money to poor people, give it to job creators who might at some point give some of it to poor people. That's how economies grow.


If we just give money to poor people, they blow it buying things. But if we give it to rich people, they will create jobs selling things to people! Obviously, the latter is preferable.
 
2013-11-19 04:29:06 PM

CORRECTION: Earlier I tweeted that capital gains are the biggest driver of inequality. In fact, it's poors not dreaming hard enough.

- Ned Resnikoff (@resnikoff) November 19, 2013


teehee
 
2013-11-19 04:31:16 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Quasar: This isn't complicated, sheeple. Instead of giving that money to poor people, give it to job creators who might at some point give some of it to poor people. That's how economies grow.

If we just give money to poor people, they blow it buying things. But if we give it to rich people, they will create jobs selling things to people! Obviously, the latter is preferable.


We need both.  You can't maintain jobs selling stuff if the people are too poor to buy anything.
 
2013-11-19 04:31:47 PM

Diogenes: We need both. You can't maintain jobs selling stuff if the people are too poor to buy anything.


thatsthejoke.jpg
 
2013-11-19 04:34:52 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Diogenes: We need both. You can't maintain jobs selling stuff if the people are too poor to buy anything.

thatsthejoke.jpg


Sorry.  New roof is going on today.  I have at least 10 guys doing 'shave and a haircut' in my brain.
 
2013-11-19 04:44:20 PM

Quasar: This isn't complicated, sheeple. Instead of giving that money to poor people, give it to job creators who might at some point give some of it to poor people. That's how economies grow.


How many years of this thinking has to fail before people like you acknowledge it?
 
2013-11-19 04:47:05 PM
Paul Ryan is like Robin Hood, or Jesus.

Except *in reverse*
 
2013-11-19 04:55:29 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Then you read page after page, trying to figure out what the dude is actually saying he'd do to lower poverty, and here's what you're left with: vouchers, tax credits, and volunteerism.

All sizzle, no steak.


He's their "numbers guy." Let him dazzle you with his numbers! Woo! Numbers!

Try THIS one on for size: 8,123,647. Yeah, that's right. You ain't seen a cool-ass number like that in a LONG time.
 
2013-11-19 04:56:46 PM

Lando Lincoln: He's their "numbers guy." Let him dazzle you with his numbers! Woo! Numbers!


In all fairness, 2% unemployment *is* a number.
 
2013-11-19 05:10:47 PM
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
 
2013-11-19 05:24:06 PM

impaler: What's the benefit of drowning in money, if you have to pay taxes on it? Poor people don't want to get rich, because there's really no upside to it.


Not to mention that all that extra money starts tasting bitter knowing that some kid, who didn't earn it, isn't starving, homeless and begging. All of a sudden those swim sessions in your money vault make you leave feeling resentful. How dare the poor not squirm in grinding abject poverty!
 
2013-11-19 05:27:18 PM
Day 1 of Federal Budget conference:

Paul Ryan "Tax increases are off the table.  Now let's negotiate over how much to cut entitlements."
 
2013-11-19 05:29:07 PM
I was going to make a lot of money, but because of taxes I've decided to be poor instead.  Thanks a lot, libs.
 
2013-11-19 05:30:51 PM
This dude is the biggest political stunt foisted upon us in a long time.

His entire career is how I got through high school - get a basic understanding of the material, say the right things but do little to no work. You still look better than most of the morons you're sitting next to just for participating, but nothing is getting done.
 
2013-11-19 05:32:09 PM
Paul Ryan's strategy is to make being poor so punishing that nobody in their right mind will choose to be poor when they could be middle-class or rich instead. It's foolproof!
 
2013-11-19 05:32:56 PM

Soup4Bonnie: Day 1 of Federal Budget conference:

Paul Ryan "Tax increases are off the table.  Now let's negotiate over how much to cut entitlements."


Day 2 of Federal Budget conference:

Paul Ryan "With all those entitlement cuts we can lower the top tax bracket and eliminate capital gains."
 
2013-11-19 05:33:00 PM
I'm sorry, did Ryan say something? I was busy playing Bioshock and admiring the builder's ethos.
 
2013-11-19 05:33:48 PM
Used to game online with a dude who was convinced that Paul Ryan was the only one who could save America now that Obama had destroyed it.

Why yes he was 19 and unemployed, how did you know?
 
2013-11-19 05:35:56 PM
i.qkme.me
 
2013-11-19 05:39:52 PM
The Bishop Shirley Holloway?
 
2013-11-19 05:40:18 PM
And that's about where the charade ends. Throughout his political career, Ryan has looked to shrink government and cut spending by promoting volunteerism, tax credits, and privatization vouchers. Now that he's engaged in a vague kind of rebranding campaign, the Wisconsin Republican is still pushing volunteerism, tax credits, and privatization vouchers - but now it's repackaged as Ryan's vision for "fighting poverty."
 
2013-11-19 05:41:20 PM
youdon'tsay.jpg
 
2013-11-19 05:42:03 PM
A snarky synopsis of a Washington Post feature tells me mostly the person writing it hates Paul Ryan with a passion.

The actual Washington Post piece is far more interesting. We should all applaud Ryan's efforts to make his party more compassionate.

But that's not what we do, is it?
 
2013-11-19 05:43:04 PM

Soup4Bonnie: And that's about where the charade ends. Throughout his political career, Ryan has looked to shrink government and cut spending by promoting volunteerism, tax credits, and privatization vouchers. Now that he's engaged in a vague kind of rebranding campaign, the Wisconsin Republican is still pushing volunteerism, tax credits, and privatization vouchers - but now it's repackaged as Ryan's vision for "fighting poverty."


The only people that dog will hunt for is people who are already convinced that they are wealthy. Never mind they got their hoverround from being on disability and medicade.
 
2013-11-19 05:44:10 PM
Hungry people dream harder.
 
2013-11-19 05:44:20 PM
We can end welfare when everyone has a job.  It's funny how that's bad news for so many people.
 
2013-11-19 05:44:50 PM

Cletus C.: The actual Washington Post piece is far more interesting. We should all applaud Ryan's efforts to make his party more compassionate.


You can't eat comforting words. You can't sleep in a rhetorical nod. What exactly is he advocating now that he wasn't advocating before?
 
2013-11-19 05:44:51 PM

Cletus C.: A snarky synopsis of a Washington Post feature tells me mostly the person writing it hates Paul Ryan with a passion.

The actual Washington Post piece is far more interesting. We should all applaud Ryan's efforts to make his party appear more compassionate.

But that's not what we do, is it?


FIFY
 
2013-11-19 05:45:14 PM

Cletus C.: But that's not what we do, is it?


Cutting food stamps forty billion dollars isn't compassionate.  It's criminal.
 
2013-11-19 05:46:30 PM

paygun: We can end welfare when everyone has a job that pays enough to get them off food stamps and welfare.  It's funny how that's bad news for so many people.

 
2013-11-19 05:46:35 PM

Cletus C.: We should all applaud Ryan's efforts to make his party more compassionate.


Only if you were born yesterday.
 
2013-11-19 05:46:51 PM

Cletus C.: A snarky synopsis of a Washington Post feature tells me mostly the person writing it hates Paul Ryan with a passion.

The actual Washington Post piece is far more interesting. We should all applaud Ryan's efforts to make his party more compassionate.

But that's not what we do, is it?


Well, that ain't what he's doing, either.
 
2013-11-19 05:46:58 PM

Cletus C.: The actual Washington Post piece is far more interesting. We should all applaud Ryan's efforts to make his party more compassionate.


Such as?
 
2013-11-19 05:47:23 PM

paygun: We can end welfare when everyone has a job.  It's funny how that's bad news for so many people.


Many people on food stamps have full time jobs.  Funny how that's news for so many people.

Hey, guess what most of the rest of them are?  Elderly, disabled or children.  GET A JOB, TODDLER!
 
2013-11-19 05:47:36 PM

Cletus C.: A snarky synopsis of a Washington Post feature tells me mostly the person writing it hates Paul Ryan with a passion.

The actual Washington Post piece is far more interesting. We should all applaud Ryan's efforts to make his party more compassionate.

But that's not what we do, is it?


I'll start applauding when his efforts start working.
 
2013-11-19 05:47:56 PM

Cletus C.: A snarky synopsis of a Washington Post feature tells me mostly the person writing it hates Paul Ryan with a passion.


Why the hell did they reference an article and not link to it? It stinks of heavy handed bash and run your-blog-sucks.
 
2013-11-19 05:49:12 PM

Soup4Bonnie: Cletus C.: But that's not what we do, is it?

Cutting food stamps forty billion dollars isn't compassionate.  It's criminal.


It's not criminal, but it's the opposite of compassionate. You know... selfish greed.
 
2013-11-19 05:49:16 PM

Lando Lincoln: Dusk-You-n-Me: Then you read page after page, trying to figure out what the dude is actually saying he'd do to lower poverty, and here's what you're left with: vouchers, tax credits, and volunteerism.

All sizzle, no steak.

He's their "numbers guy." Let him dazzle you with his numbers! Woo! Numbers!

Try THIS one on for size: 8,123,647. Yeah, that's right. You ain't seen a cool-ass number like that in a LONG time.


not since 867-5309
 
2013-11-19 05:49:25 PM

Diogenes: Article's kinda thin.  Must have had its food stamps taken away.


There's really no much to say about the subject matter other than Ryan's plans lack... well, plans.
 
2013-11-19 05:50:00 PM
Well, of course. The only way to make poors feel good is to enable them to participate in success. SInce they can't succeed themselves, being too poor and all, we help them use their money to make the rich even more successful. That's called trickle-down success.
 
2013-11-19 05:51:43 PM
With plumbum taken out of the picture we'll have to use malnutrition to raise a new generation of criminals.  Private prisons must be a growth industry!
 
2013-11-19 05:51:44 PM
I'm beginning to wonder if there's some sort of dark ceremony when a Republican signs Norquist's no-compromises-on-taxes-ever pledge. The level of blind refusal to compromise (or even talk) demostrates a deep-seated religious-like fear of the man.

/why can't you just compromise
//give a little, get a little
 
2013-11-19 05:53:00 PM

Cletus C.: A snarky synopsis of a Washington Post feature tells me mostly the person writing it hates Paul Ryan with a passion.

The actual Washington Post piece is far more interesting. We should all applaud Ryan's efforts to make his party more compassionate.

But that's not what we do, is it?


from the article you mention;

"Washington has gummed up the works," Ryan told the Iowa crowd. "It's made it harder for people to get ahead, and the idea of upward mobility, of equal opportunity, is slipping farther and farther away from people who haven't seen it for generations. . . . We can restore America as the party of equal opportunity to show how these ideas can prevail."


are you sure you want people to read that article?
 
2013-11-19 05:53:39 PM

qorkfiend: paygun: We can end welfare when everyone has a job that pays enough to get them off food stamps and welfare.  It's funny how that's bad news for so many people.


I thought that was implied, but yeah.  Let me put in terms that the fark politics tab can understand:  we can end welfare when the laser like focus on jobs begins.

Hell, maybe that was still too complicated.  Here:  REPUBLICAN BAD, DEMOCRAT GOOD!
 
Displayed 50 of 194 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »





Report