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(Fox News)   Actor Michael Douglas says the major movie studios have become "conservative and constipated". And if anybody knows a thing or two about constipation these days   (foxnews.com ) divider line
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2013-11-19 05:16:52 PM  
Titty Sprinkles
 
2013-11-19 05:20:35 PM  
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2013-11-19 05:29:05 PM  
While the movie was good, it was not good enough to see it in a theater
 
2013-11-19 05:32:54 PM  
" have become " ?

I thought that was part of the studio life-cycle.  Eventually they find a niche or start having major projects that they become risk averse towards things that are opposed to or different from the current money making formulas.

Then a new independent or studio off-shoot comes along that has little to lose in bucking the trend and a low enough budget to recover from a flop or two (or even to build on a cult following of the same) that they can survive long enough to get snapped up by the big studios, or grow to be fat and complacent on their own.
 
2013-11-19 05:37:31 PM  
Is he constipated from eating b-b-b-b-bad p-p-p-pussy?
 
2013-11-19 05:47:30 PM  
Three different Peter Pan movies in development.  Hollywood business types have always been uber risk adverse.
 
2013-11-19 05:56:44 PM  
Is Hollywood out of ideas yet?
 
2013-11-19 05:56:58 PM  
Seequinn: I thought that was part of the studio life-cycle.

It goes like this:

- Auteur / independent director / producer makes unexpected film that generates vast profit and/or prestige.

- Studio executives, most of whom have no special talent for their jobs, fear looking stupid for not knowing that film would make a ton of money. Or they worry about looking stupid for missing the next one. (This despite the fact that single mega-blockbusters are a much worse investment than groups of small-budget films that make smaller profits.)

- Studios foam up and hire auteurs, give them huge budgets. Most of the resulting big-budget films fail to make big profits, and many of them bomb. Badly.

- Studio execs, who fear looking stupid for what they just did, become conservative again. Often they overreact and only greenlight uninspired projects similar to what other studios are also trying to market. If they all wind up looking stupid, then no particular exec looks particularly stupid.

- Rinse. Repeat.

This particular kind of executive behavior, it should be noted, is not unique to Hollywood. People tend to get into upper management not because they're good at management but because they really want to be at the top and have the connections to get there.
 
2013-11-19 06:17:06 PM  

RandomAxe: Seequinn: I thought that was part of the studio life-cycle.

It goes like this:

- Auteur / independent director / producer makes unexpected film that generates vast profit and/or prestige.

- Studio executives, most of whom have no special talent for their jobs, fear looking stupid for not knowing that film would make a ton of money. Or they worry about looking stupid for missing the next one. (This despite the fact that single mega-blockbusters are a much worse investment than groups of small-budget films that make smaller profits.)

- Studios foam up and hire auteurs, give them huge budgets. Most of the resulting big-budget films fail to make big profits, and many of them bomb. Badly.

- Studio execs, who fear looking stupid for what they just did, become conservative again. Often they overreact and only greenlight uninspired projects similar to what other studios are also trying to market. If they all wind up looking stupid, then no particular exec looks particularly stupid.

- Rinse. Repeat.

This particular kind of executive behavior, it should be noted, is not unique to Hollywood. People tend to get into upper management not because they're good at management but because they really want to be at the top and have the connections to get there.


And scene.
 
2013-11-19 07:47:16 PM  

karasoth: While the movie was good, it was not good enough to see it in a theater


Not just that, there really isn't much of an audience for this. People like to see certain types of films at the theater. Big action movies, family films, romantic comedies and gross-out comedies. Dramas? People wait for the DVD or TV.

Sorry, but studios know what they're doing. They have the numbers. The highest grossing talkie drama (so not big special effects like Titanic) ever is The Blind Side that had a box office of $250m. Lincoln made around $170m, and that had a best actor and the world's most famous director. A drama about an ageing gay musician that most people under 40 have never heard of? No, there really isn't a massive theater audience for it.

In the UK it took $5m at the box office, which put it somewhere in the 70-80 in the biggest grossing films of the year. It's made good money for a film with a $23m budget in one country. If you scaled that up globally, you'd probably be looking at $50m. So, maybe they missed out on a reasonable return. But it's not like that's a monster hit that will cause them to reassess the business models.
 
2013-11-19 08:15:51 PM  
We'd still kill to pledge Eta Zeta with him.
 
2013-11-19 08:33:16 PM  
I caught Basic Instinct on cable a few weeks ago.  It has not aged well.  Sharon Stone was alright, but Michael Douglas was too old for his part.  It was like watching Pat Boone trying to sing "Stairway to Heaven".
 
2013-11-19 09:50:39 PM  
I've never thought that this movie was all that great but for some reason I love it.
 
2013-11-19 09:52:01 PM  

Tenatra: I've never thought that this movie was all that great but for some reason I love it.


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2013-11-20 12:55:00 AM  
I want "Ghostbusters" meets "Mrs Doubtfire", and see if Ryan Reynolds is available. Oh, and make sure there's a dog.
 
2013-11-20 01:21:04 AM  

farkeruk: karasoth: While the movie was good, it was not good enough to see it in a theater

Not just that, there really isn't much of an audience for this. People like to see certain types of films at the theater. Big action movies, family films, romantic comedies and gross-out comedies. Dramas? People wait for the DVD or TV.

Sorry, but studios know what they're doing. They have the numbers. The highest grossing talkie drama (so not big special effects like Titanic) ever is The Blind Side that had a box office of $250m. Lincoln made around $170m, and that had a best actor and the world's most famous director. A drama about an ageing gay musician that most people under 40 have never heard of? No, there really isn't a massive theater audience for it.

In the UK it took $5m at the box office, which put it somewhere in the 70-80 in the biggest grossing films of the year. It's made good money for a film with a $23m budget in one country. If you scaled that up globally, you'd probably be looking at $50m. So, maybe they missed out on a reasonable return. But it's not like that's a monster hit that will cause them to reassess the business models.


All true. Most people that have even heard of Liberace now just know him as the punchline of a joke.The majority of his fans were little old ladies that had have cognitive dissonance about the fact that he was gay. Those fans were my grandparent's age, and I was born in 1977. So from a producer's standpoint, this is along the lines of making an african american remake of the Honeymooners. WHO IS THE TARGET AUDIENCE?

That answers the question, it sounded like box office poison, and they didn't take the bet. This time it turned out the movie did well. But I'm guessing several reasonable execs said "this doesn't sound like anything anyone is clamoring for."

Next up, a biographical movie about Alan Hale.
 
2013-11-20 02:12:23 AM  

Tenatra: Tenatra: I've never thought that this movie was all that great but for some reason I love it.

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I don't think that your taste regarding Falling Down will be questioned here on Fark.  I think most here would consider it a classic.
 
2013-11-20 02:23:05 AM  

Tenatra: Tenatra: I've never thought that this movie was all that great but for some reason I love it.

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As a social commentary it gets the message across. As a suspense or action film it's par.
 
2013-11-20 02:32:38 AM  
Michael Douglas is my goddamned hero!
i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2013-11-20 02:44:39 AM  
Beyond the Candelabra was really damn good. Douglas as Liberace might be one of his best performances since Wall Street. Watching him getting rear-ended by Matt Damon was a bit much. Holy shiat.
 
2013-11-20 05:52:56 AM  
Well he is not lying
 
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