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(Den of Geek (US))   Joel Hodgson once again demonstrates why he is one of the greatest people alive. Not only is he bringing back the MST3K Turkey Day marathon, all you'll need to keep yourself entertained while hiding from your relatives is an internet connection   (denofgeek.us) divider line 63
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2013-11-19 02:28:04 PM
This is the best news I've heard all week! XD
 
2013-11-19 02:42:21 PM
I already have all the MST3K episodes and the movie on my hard drive.
And a ton of Rifftrax.

But thanks, Joel!
You're still cool in my book.
 
2013-11-19 02:43:10 PM
These guys just really need to call a truce, say "f*ck it," and bring back the show.

I guarantee it would be huge on whatever cable network decided to buy it.

I need new episodes.
 
2013-11-19 02:56:32 PM
What do you mean 'truce'?  They aren't and haven't ever been fighting.
 
2013-11-19 03:02:32 PM

netizencain: What do you mean 'truce'?  They aren't and haven't ever been fighting.


Well, they're certainly working in separate camps.

I'm not saying they're "fighting" as such, but the fact that both sides are essentially engaged in projects mimicking MST3K tells me there's something getting in the way of a full blown reunion.
 
2013-11-19 03:31:13 PM

sigdiamond2000: netizencain: What do you mean 'truce'?  They aren't and haven't ever been fighting.

Well, they're certainly working in separate camps.

I'm not saying they're "fighting" as such, but the fact that both sides are essentially engaged in projects mimicking MST3K tells me there's something getting in the way of a full blown reunion.


The thing getting in the way: the actual rights to the movies they played on.
 
2013-11-19 03:42:55 PM

sigdiamond2000: netizencain: What do you mean 'truce'?  They aren't and haven't ever been fighting.

Well, they're certainly working in separate camps.

I'm not saying they're "fighting" as such, but the fact that both sides are essentially engaged in projects mimicking MST3K tells me there's something getting in the way of a full blown reunion.


Cinematic Titanic is pretty dead.  Joel is just too scatterbrained to stay on anything for too long.  Rifftrax is where it's at.
 
2013-11-19 03:56:59 PM

netizencain: Rifftrax is where it's at.


I agree. As much as I love MST3K, riffing on newer movies like Twilight and Transformers is funnier.
 
2013-11-19 04:01:03 PM
IIRC, MST3K used to run from about 11pm to 1am weekdays. Then in 96, they moved it back to 1am to 3am - instilling in me a very late bed-time, and disrupting my sleeping habits forever.
 
2013-11-19 04:46:08 PM
Have any of you been to any of the "live" Rifftrax events at your local theater?  Are they any good?  I haven't been able to, but we get them in Bowling Green.  Our radio station gives away tickets.  Should I sit on some for myself next time?
 
2013-11-19 04:47:11 PM

impaler: sigdiamond2000: netizencain: What do you mean 'truce'?  They aren't and haven't ever been fighting.

Well, they're certainly working in separate camps.

I'm not saying they're "fighting" as such, but the fact that both sides are essentially engaged in projects mimicking MST3K tells me there's something getting in the way of a full blown reunion.

The thing getting in the way: the actual rights to the movies they played on.


That wouldn't affect new episodes though.
 
2013-11-19 04:54:08 PM

netizencain: sigdiamond2000: netizencain: What do you mean 'truce'?  They aren't and haven't ever been fighting.

Well, they're certainly working in separate camps.

I'm not saying they're "fighting" as such, but the fact that both sides are essentially engaged in projects mimicking MST3K tells me there's something getting in the way of a full blown reunion.

Cinematic Titanic is pretty dead.  Joel is just too scatterbrained to stay on anything for too long.  Rifftrax is where it's at.


Cinematic Titanic is touting their current tour as their "Farewell" tour, so I think you're right.  Unless they're like The Who, or Cher.
 
2013-11-19 04:54:15 PM

23FPB23: Have any of you been to any of the "live" Rifftrax events at your local theater?  Are they any good?  I haven't been able to, but we get them in Bowling Green.  Our radio station gives away tickets.  Should I sit on some for myself next time?


They are very fun, and you can buy recordings of them from the rifftrax website. Unfortunately you miss out on the pre-show stuff because instead of having to sit through a billion trailers before the movie, they do a rather humorous slideshow with "trivia" and oneliners.

/seen all the rifftrax live shows except Night of the Living Dead
 
2013-11-19 04:57:01 PM

23FPB23: Have any of you been to any of the "live" Rifftrax events at your local theater?  Are they any good?  I haven't been able to, but we get them in Bowling Green.  Our radio station gives away tickets.  Should I sit on some for myself next time?


Saw Starship Troopers a couple months back and it was hilarious. Regrettably missed Night of the Living Dead most recently, but you should check if their next one (Santa Claus Conquers the Martians, December 5th) is in your area.
 
2013-11-19 04:59:42 PM

ds_4815: 23FPB23: Have any of you been to any of the "live" Rifftrax events at your local theater?  Are they any good?  I haven't been able to, but we get them in Bowling Green.  Our radio station gives away tickets.  Should I sit on some for myself next time?

Saw Starship Troopers a couple months back and it was hilarious. Regrettably missed Night of the Living Dead most recently, but you should check if their next one (Santa Claus Conquers the Martians, December 5th) is in your area.


It is, and we have tickets.  Sadly, their promotion company only sends us 5 pair.  But, its really a "niche" prize, so listeners aren't climbing all over each other to win.  So maybe I swipe some.
 
2013-11-19 04:59:57 PM

23FPB23: Have any of you been to any of the "live" Rifftrax events at your local theater?  Are they any good?  I haven't been able to, but we get them in Bowling Green.  Our radio station gives away tickets.  Should I sit on some for myself next time?


It's a fun time. I have to make a thirty-mile trip to get to the nearest showing, but it's been worth it every time. The live Riff of Jack the Giant Killer remains one of my favorites.

/CORMORAN!
 
2013-11-19 05:03:24 PM

netizencain


What do you mean 'truce'? They aren't and haven't ever been fighting.


You're not familiar with the Jim Mallon thing, are you?

Accounts vary, such as JM trying to sell Mike Nelson's personal property on eBay, forcing Joel off the show due to creative differences, and generally being a micromanaging douchebag. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle of all the viewpoints. (I certainly don't claim to know the whole story.)
 
2013-11-19 05:06:27 PM

Honest Bender: I already have all the MST3K episodes and the movie on my hard drive.
And a ton of Rifftrax.

But thanks, Joel!
You're still cool in my book.


That's what I was going to say.  Most of the episodes are actually on Youtube in their entirety.
But I'm not going to berate Joel for trying.  I'll probably log on to his site just to do it.
 
2013-11-19 05:11:02 PM
Read this in the "top 10 unbearable movies thread. Neat idea, even if its just gonna be all the ones everyone knows (it's gonna be voted on by fans)

In the meantime, make your own MST3K marathon at www.club-mst3k.com/
 
2013-11-19 05:11:39 PM
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You get the name of those Turkey Day turkeys, turkey?
 
2013-11-19 05:20:32 PM

CarnySaur: netizencain: sigdiamond2000: netizencain: What do you mean 'truce'?  They aren't and haven't ever been fighting.

Well, they're certainly working in separate camps.

I'm not saying they're "fighting" as such, but the fact that both sides are essentially engaged in projects mimicking MST3K tells me there's something getting in the way of a full blown reunion.

Cinematic Titanic is pretty dead.  Joel is just too scatterbrained to stay on anything for too long.  Rifftrax is where it's at.

Cinematic Titanic is touting their current tour as their "Farewell" tour, so I think you're right.


I was lucky enough to go when they came to Royal Oak a few months ago.  From what they were saying on stage, it really sounds like they're wrapping up Cinematic Titanic and Joel's ready to do something new.

23FPB23: Have any of you been to any of the "live" Rifftrax events at your local theater?  Are they any good?  I haven't been able to, but we get them in Bowling Green.  Our radio station gives away tickets.  Should I sit on some for myself next time?


I haven't gone to a Rifftrax Live, but if it's anything like Cinematic Titanic Live, you'll have a great time.  I had a blast at Cinematic Titanic, they did a really fun Q&A session with the audience before things got started (someone did ask about the CT/Rifftrax split, Joel said no one's fighting, the groups just kind of formed that way after they stopped doing the show) and it was a ball to see them playing off of each other.  I also found out that the correct pronunciation of Mary Joe Pehl's last name is "peel."  There was also an autograph line.

If you get a chance to go see creators of something you love, I'd recommend making the trip.  On Saturday I got to go down to the Detroit Institute of Arts and see Paul Dini and Alan Burnett talk about "Batman:  The Animated Series" and some of the other cartoons they've worked on.  It's always fun to get behind the scenes details from the horse's mouth.
 
2013-11-19 05:23:33 PM

23FPB23: Have any of you been to any of the "live" Rifftrax events at your local theater?  Are they any good?  I haven't been able to, but we get them in Bowling Green.  Our radio station gives away tickets.  Should I sit on some for myself next time?


I love the live shows. They've been pretty good at picking some good shorts for the start of the films, too. Do yourself a favor and check out any of the Norman Krasner shorts available on the website, or just pick up the videos of the live shows.
 
2013-11-19 05:27:48 PM

23FPB23: Have any of you been to any of the "live" Rifftrax events at your local theater?  Are they any good?  I haven't been able to, but we get them in Bowling Green.  Our radio station gives away tickets.  Should I sit on some for myself next time?


I've been to all including the live (non-taped) Daredevil they did in Marin and their appearance at SF Sketchfest.

It's so much better live than at home.   Everything is just so much funnier when you're surrounded by fans.  Your cheeks will hurt from smiling and laughing so much.
 
2013-11-19 05:30:45 PM

Rev. Skarekroe: Honest Bender: I already have all the MST3K episodes and the movie on my hard drive.
And a ton of Rifftrax.

But thanks, Joel!
You're still cool in my book.

That's what I was going to say.  Most of the episodes are actually on Youtube in their entirety.
But I'm not going to berate Joel for trying.  I'll probably log on to his site just to do it.


The EW article this one links to says that Joel is actually going to be hosting the stream, so we might get some new material from him during the marathon.
 
2013-11-19 05:30:52 PM

netizencain: It's so much better live than at home. Everything is just so much funnier when you're surrounded by fans. Your cheeks will hurt from smiling and laughing so much.


Well thanks for all the replies, Farkers!  I'll have to try to go.  At the very least, I'm glad we're not giving away a shiat prize!
 
2013-11-19 05:30:56 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: netizencain

What do you mean 'truce'? They aren't and haven't ever been fighting.


You're not familiar with the Jim Mallon thing, are you?

Accounts vary, such as JM trying to sell Mike Nelson's personal property on eBay, forcing Joel off the show due to creative differences, and generally being a micromanaging douchebag. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle of all the viewpoints. (I certainly don't claim to know the whole story.)


Not to mention that he's letting the one thing he owns of value, the MST3K Tapes, sit somewhere and degrade instead of preserving them properly.

All of Shout's releases lately, which are directly from the master tapes provided by Mallon, have had tape hits and screwed up spots because the tapes are degrading. When that's your major moneymaker, YOU DON'T LET IT DISINTEGRATE!
 
2013-11-19 05:39:26 PM
I would like to see MST3K come back, but only if they:

a) figure out a way to riff on movies that people have heard of
b) get a new cast

They need new blood all-around, is what I'm saying. The original was great, but it was wearing thin by the time Mike took over. Comedy writers/comedians have a shelf-life, and the MST3K gang is WAY past theirs at this point.
 
2013-11-19 05:58:23 PM

realmolo: I would like to see MST3K come back, but only if they:

a) figure out a way to riff on movies that people have heard of
b) get a new cast

They need new blood all-around, is what I'm saying. The original was great, but it was wearing thin by the time Mike took over. Comedy writers/comedians have a shelf-life, and the MST3K gang is WAY past theirs at this point.


Boy is your mind about to be blown when you find rifftrax
 
2013-11-19 06:06:36 PM

realmolo: I would like to see MST3K come back, but only if they:

a) figure out a way to riff on movies that people have heard of
b) get a new cast

They need new blood all-around, is what I'm saying. The original was great, but it was wearing thin by the time Mike took over. Comedy writers/comedians have a shelf-life, and the MST3K gang is WAY past theirs at this point.


I want to see Led Zeppelin reunite, except I don't want Robert Plant, Jimmy Page, or John Paul Jones to be in it. Musicians have a shelf life, and they're kind of old and tired.
 
2013-11-19 06:08:39 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: netizencain

What do you mean 'truce'? They aren't and haven't ever been fighting.

You're not familiar with the Jim Mallon thing, are you?

Accounts vary, such as JM trying to sell Mike Nelson's personal property on eBay, forcing Joel off the show due to creative differences, and generally being a micromanaging douchebag. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle of all the viewpoints. (I certainly don't claim to know the whole story.)


In 2005 Mike, Bill, and Kevin tried to market "The Film Crew", which was a most MST-like take on riffing in that it had "host segments". But aside from the few eps produced for video, Mallon pressured them to shut it down. Thus rose Rifftrax.

I don't know if Mallon pressured CT as much, but they had a shadowrama more similar to MST, so I wouldn't be surprised. But yeah, Mallon is the villain here.
 
2013-11-19 06:12:52 PM

23FPB23: Have any of you been to any of the "live" Rifftrax events at your local theater?  Are they any good?  I haven't been able to, but we get them in Bowling Green.  Our radio station gives away tickets.  Should I sit on some for myself next time?


Haven't missed one yet! Awesome times. It was about 3-4 of us who went at first, but now our group has expanded to 15.

If you decide to go, here's a tip: Get to the theater at LEAST 45 minutes ahead of time. It is often packed, but thankfully, it is with people who are like-minded, and there to have an awesome time. At the theater I go to, even though it isn't "live" as in, "in-your-face", but streamed, everyone cheers and laughs along as if it was live, and even jumps in with Norman's catch phrase when cued (you'll understand when you go).

Finally, a few movies they've done at Rifftrax Live events aren't going to be sold on their site, like Starship Troopers and Night Of The Living Dead, due to rights issues. While it sucks, it is more incentive to go see them do it live, and at the very least, maybe the whole thing will allow them to do a broader range of newer movies live.

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Even Dina Meyer, who plays Dizzy, went!
 
2013-11-19 06:13:35 PM

JonBuck: Englebert Slaptyback: netizencain

What do you mean 'truce'? They aren't and haven't ever been fighting.

You're not familiar with the Jim Mallon thing, are you?

Accounts vary, such as JM trying to sell Mike Nelson's personal property on eBay, forcing Joel off the show due to creative differences, and generally being a micromanaging douchebag. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle of all the viewpoints. (I certainly don't claim to know the whole story.)

In 2005 Mike, Bill, and Kevin tried to market "The Film Crew", which was a most MST-like take on riffing in that it had "host segments". But aside from the few eps produced for video, Mallon pressured them to shut it down. Thus rose Rifftrax.

I don't know if Mallon pressured CT as much, but they had a shadowrama more similar to MST, so I wouldn't be surprised. But yeah, Mallon is the villain here.


Not quite.

Mallon didn't and couldn't pressure Mike and the Bots Crew to shut anything down. However, they were filming these Film Crew shows for Rhino, who also had the rights to release MST3K on DVD.

 Mallon told Rhino they could keep the proven MST3K license, or make new Film Crew movies. Rhino chose the one with the track record.

So, yeah, Mallon is a dick.
 
2013-11-19 06:17:12 PM

RoxtarRyan: Finally, a few movies they've done at Rifftrax Live events aren't going to be sold on their site, like Starship Troopers and Night Of The Living Dead, due to rights issues. While it sucks, it is more incentive to go see them do it live, and at the very least, maybe the whole thing will allow them to do a broader range of newer movies live


Night of the Living Dead is public domain, so I expect it to get a normal online release.

FirstNationalBastard: Mallon told Rhino they could keep the proven MST3K license, or make new Film Crew movies. Rhino chose the one with the track record


And MST ended up moving to Shout, anyway. Still, as much as I enjoyed Film Crew, the online model of Rifftrax is so much better. Plus, more shorts!
 
2013-11-19 06:19:37 PM
NeoCortex42:

FirstNationalBastard: Mallon told Rhino they could keep the proven MST3K license, or make new Film Crew movies. Rhino chose the one with the track record

And MST ended up moving to Shout, anyway. Still, as much as I enjoyed Film Crew, the online model of Rifftrax is so much better. Plus, more shorts!


I bought one of their first riffs, for The 5th Element, and buy their shorts and VODs. My most recent purchase was Supersonic man, which gets compared to Pyuuma Pooma Pumaman from the get-go. :)
 
2013-11-19 06:21:24 PM

realmolo: I would like to see MST3K come back, but only if they:

a) figure out a way to riff on movies that people have heard of
b) get a new cast

They need new blood all-around, is what I'm saying. The original was great, but it was wearing thin by the time Mike took over. Comedy writers/comedians have a shelf-life, and the MST3K gang is WAY past theirs at this point.


What and the everloving fark is wrong with you?  Rifftrax.  Seriously.
also, the live ones are amazing.  the shorts are still my favorite.
 
2013-11-19 06:21:25 PM

NeoCortex42: Night of the Living Dead is public domain, so I expect it to get a normal online release.


Ah, you're right! My bad. They only showed it one night and didn't do an encore like they did with Starship Troopers.
 
2013-11-19 06:23:58 PM
DAMMIT! Thanks, Farkers. We've farked the rifftrax.com site.
 
2013-11-19 06:28:31 PM
Arrrgh!  My parents' internet really isn't fast enough to stream video.  Sigh.

Oh well.  They'll be grateful for that after years of me recording the Turkey Day marathons and squalling like a scalded cat if anyone tried to change the channel.

/Maybe I should take my DVDs with me.
//heh heh heh
///heh
 
2013-11-19 06:39:47 PM

23FPB23: Have any of you been to any of the "live" Rifftrax events at your local theater?  Are they any good?  I haven't been able to, but we get them in Bowling Green.  Our radio station gives away tickets.  Should I sit on some for myself next time?


I went to Night of the Living Dead and Starship Troopers they were excellent
 
2013-11-19 06:44:16 PM

RoxtarRyan: NeoCortex42: Night of the Living Dead is public domain, so I expect it to get a normal online release.

Ah, you're right! My bad. They only showed it one night and didn't do an encore like they did with Starship Troopers.


They actually did an older Rifftrax riff on NotLD a couple years back.  The show they just did was a redo of sorts with new jokes.  They actually released the DVD a while ago.  Not sure if they'll also offer the live show.
 
2013-11-19 06:46:30 PM
I think some of the old Joel MST3K episodes are every bit as hilarious as they were when first broadcast: Humanoid Woman, SST Death Flight, and Gamera vs Zigrah are among by all time favorites.
 
2013-11-19 06:55:23 PM

23FPB23: Have any of you been to any of the "live" Rifftrax events at your local theater?


Never went to a Rifftrax event, but I did see Cinematic Titanic 3 times.  It was an absolute blast.
 
2013-11-19 07:18:59 PM
TURKEYDAY!
 
2013-11-19 07:41:20 PM

netizencain: 23FPB23: Have any of you been to any of the "live" Rifftrax events at your local theater?  Are they any good?  I haven't been able to, but we get them in Bowling Green.  Our radio station gives away tickets.  Should I sit on some for myself next time?

I've been to all including the live (non-taped) Daredevil they did in Marin and their appearance at SF Sketchfest.

It's so much better live than at home.   Everything is just so much funnier when you're surrounded by fans.  Your cheeks will hurt from smiling and laughing so much.


I've been to a few. They all have been fun - but that Daredevil show in Marin was one of the funniest things I have ever seen in my life. We can't even LOOK at Colin Farrell now without cracking up.
 
2013-11-19 08:19:20 PM
This is the most amazing, epic thing in the history of the universe. And everything else is the worst thing ever.

Did I do it right?
 
2013-11-19 08:25:38 PM
It's already on 24 hours a day:  http://www.justin.tv/mst3k2
 
2013-11-19 08:37:36 PM

Mugato: netizencain: Rifftrax is where it's at.

I agree. As much as I love MST3K, riffing on newer movies like Twilight and Transformers is funnier.


Would it be impossible for them to do old TV shows? I'd love to see them take on some 70's series like "Bionic Woman" or "Buck Rogers" or something.
 
2013-11-19 09:05:16 PM

23FPB23: Have any of you been to any of the "live" Rifftrax events at your local theater?  Are they any good?  I haven't been able to, but we get them in Bowling Green.  Our radio station gives away tickets.  Should I sit on some for myself next time?


I am pretty sure I have been to everyone and they are a blast. They just had one in October riffing on Night of the Living Dead and there is going to be one on December 5th "Santa Claus Conqurers the Martians.
 
2013-11-19 09:06:33 PM
My friend drew that notorious Rule 34 pic of Crow T. Robot. You know the one.
 
2013-11-19 09:58:52 PM

Gyrfalcon: Mugato: netizencain: Rifftrax is where it's at.

I agree. As much as I love MST3K, riffing on newer movies like Twilight and Transformers is funnier.

Would it be impossible for them to do old TV shows? I'd love to see them take on some 70's series like "Bionic Woman" or "Buck Rogers" or something.


They  experimenteddoing just that.
 
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