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(RealScreen)   Reality television writers lose up to $40 million annually in unpaid overtime. In reality TV currency, that's 40 million hollers from Honey Boo Boo   (realscreen.com) divider line 53
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2013-11-19 02:26:43 PM  
It takes multiple people 80 hour weeks to "write" for Honey Boo Boo or Duck Dynasty?    I think they are really trying too hard.
 
2013-11-19 02:43:27 PM  

dletter: It takes multiple people 80 hour weeks to "write" for Honey Boo Boo or Duck Dynasty?    I think they are really trying too hard.


You think those shows become successful because of the  performers? Nope. Writers craft the narrative and editors pick and choose the footage to go with it.
 
2013-11-19 02:53:58 PM  
The Writers Guild had better watch it or the cable channels will start outsourcing those jobs to poor Indonesian kids.
 
2013-11-19 03:24:13 PM  

Sybarite: The Writers Guild had better watch it or the cable channels will start outsourcing those jobs to poor Indonesian kids.


Start? Haven't you been watching The Walking Dead?
 
2013-11-19 03:34:03 PM  
F*ck those people.
 
2013-11-19 03:35:19 PM  
Reality television writers? YOU MEAN IT'S NOT REAL!
 
2013-11-19 03:43:59 PM  
There are only a handful of acceptable reality shows.

Sports
Discovery Channel
Jeopardy!

That is all.
 
2013-11-19 03:46:04 PM  
So the writers are classified as contract workers so the producers don't have to pay them a decent wage.  Maybe the writers need to negotiate a better contract.

Maybe they can do a reality show about reality show writers.
 
2013-11-19 03:47:29 PM  
If they would choose to, I would fully support the Reality Television writers going on strike.  And by "fully support", I actually mean hope they bring Reality TV to it's knees, causing it to all disappear from the airwaves permanently.
 
2013-11-19 03:48:17 PM  

homarjr: Discovery Channel


Ha. Ha ha. Ah ha ha ha.
 
2013-11-19 03:49:18 PM  
Somebody find the world's tiniest violin out of a storage unit they bid on and play it for these poor creatures.
 
2013-11-19 03:49:20 PM  
Why would reality TV need writers?

Oh yeah. Reality TV isn't.
 
2013-11-19 03:49:35 PM  
They aren't writers those are animal handlers subby.
 
2013-11-19 03:57:48 PM  

FishyFred: homarjr: Discovery Channel

Ha. Ha ha. Ah ha ha ha.


Haha. I regretted it as soon as I hit submit.

Eh, the Planet Earth series is pretty good at least.
 
2013-11-19 03:58:31 PM  

FishyFred: homarjr: Discovery Channel

Ha. Ha ha. Ah ha ha ha.


sports
Jeopardy

Ha. Ha ha. Ah ha ha ha.
 
2013-11-19 04:00:10 PM  
I would imagine that "Reality Show TV Writer" is one of the worst jobs that has ever been conceived in the history of the world, rating just below "Rob Ford's PR Guy" but just above "Third Person in Human Centipede".

Or perhaps vice versa.
 
2013-11-19 04:01:38 PM  
sephjnr.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
 
2013-11-19 04:09:25 PM  

Sybarite: The Writers Guild had better watch it or the cable channels will start outsourcing those jobs to poor Indonesian kids.


I think there's a show in this!
 
2013-11-19 04:11:31 PM  
Women fight over a man (or woman).
Men fight over a woman (or man).
Someone says something racist or homophobic.
Someone gets insanely drunk, hurts themselves.
Someone completely screws up a task they were supposed to perform, is shiat on by others on the show for 19 minutes.
Someone breaks down and reveals they were abused by a former SO/parent.
Field Trip! Locations: Bar, beach, shopping mall, amusement park. The louder the better.

There. I just wrote 10 seasons of whatever reality show you want to produce.
 
2013-11-19 04:16:32 PM  
Any farker could write for a reality show. And any that are to smart to write for it we will just hit in the head with a hammer to dumb em down. Hell one show could fill a few 3x5 index cards.
 
2013-11-19 04:17:19 PM  

Lipspinach: Jeopardy

Ha. Ha ha. Ah ha ha ha.


Actually, thanks to quiz show laws, Jeopardy is required to be on the level.
 
2013-11-19 04:22:32 PM  
They could save themselves their anguish over their unpaid OT and just kill themselves.
 
2013-11-19 04:22:44 PM  
Reality: It doesn't just happen.
 
2013-11-19 04:22:47 PM  

groppet: Any farker could write for a reality show. And any that are to smart to write for it we will just hit in the head with a hammer to dumb em down. Hell one show could fill a few 3x5 index cards.


"OK, guys, let's get down to business. Episode 10: What have you got?"
"Should two of the attractive females fights while wearing tight clothing and/or swimsuits?"
"OK, but we need more than that. Right? I mean...could we just do that for 45 minutes? Let me make a call....OK turns out the answer is no, we can't just have them fight for 45 minutes. The suits want more."
"Well, they'd get drunk first of course."
"Perfect! 20 minutes in a bar, they come home, 'Oh no you didn't', into the pool, a lot of crying. All right, see you next week, help yourself to the margarita machine there."
 
2013-11-19 04:25:09 PM  
You get paid to throw darts at a board?
 
2013-11-19 04:30:26 PM  

FishyFred: Lipspinach: Jeopardy

Ha. Ha ha. Ah ha ha ha.

Actually, thanks to quiz show laws, Jeopardy is required to be on the level.


See the movie "Quiz Show" to find out why. It's actually a good movie too.
 
2013-11-19 04:31:33 PM  
I was curious so I googled. Apparently, the people called reality show writers are more like editors. They choose what to put in, and in what order, to present a coherent narrative over the course of an episode/season. I don't know why they're writers instead of editors but there you go.
 
2013-11-19 04:36:09 PM  

Surool: FishyFred: Lipspinach: Jeopardy

Ha. Ha ha. Ah ha ha ha.

Actually, thanks to quiz show laws, Jeopardy is required to be on the level.

See the movie "Quiz Show" to find out why. It's actually a good movie too.


"On the Waterfront."
 
2013-11-19 04:41:22 PM  
I thought the entire point of reality television was that it was unscripted.... What do they need writers for?
 
2013-11-19 04:43:33 PM  
Take all the pot shots....these are the people responsible for trying to put something together of these folks that passes as potentially interesting.
 
2013-11-19 04:47:21 PM  
Funny, they started making so many of them since it was cheaper than having to hire writers.
 
2013-11-19 04:56:34 PM  

homarjr: There are only a handful of acceptable reality shows.

Sports
Discovery Channel
Jeopardy!

That is all.


That'sshh not what your mother said last nite Trebek!
 
2013-11-19 04:58:15 PM  

FTGodWin: Funny, they started making so many of them since it was cheaper than having to hire writers.


You spelled tallent wrong
 
2013-11-19 05:00:27 PM  
Reality television writers
Reality television writers
Reality television writers

/facepalm
 
2013-11-19 05:07:27 PM  
Reality television writers?  Whats next, giving acting Emmy's to Reality Stars?
 
2013-11-19 05:22:56 PM  

jayhawk88: groppet: Any farker could write for a reality show. And any that are to smart to write for it we will just hit in the head with a hammer to dumb em down. Hell one show could fill a few 3x5 index cards.

"OK, guys, let's get down to business. Episode 10: What have you got?"
"Should two of the attractive females fights while wearing tight clothing and/or swimsuits?"
"OK, but we need more than that. Right? I mean...could we just do that for 45 minutes? Let me make a call....OK turns out the answer is no, we can't just have them fight for 45 minutes. The suits want more."
"Well, they'd get drunk first of course."
"Perfect! 20 minutes in a bar, they come home, 'Oh no you didn't', into the pool, a lot of crying. All right, see you next week, help yourself to the margarita machine there."


You just won an emmy!
 
2013-11-19 05:44:37 PM  
1) Isn't the fact that you have a writers guild supposed to protect against this?
2) This actually looks way more like the typical "independent contractor BS." where you do everything like an employee except get any kind of social safety net.
 
2013-11-19 05:48:50 PM  

Skarekrough: Take all the pot shots....these are the people responsible for trying to put something together of these folks that passes as potentially interesting.


Well when you put it that it sounds difficult but still does not make the work any more honorable or valuable.

Hard work all by itself is not of any value.  It is what you are working hard on and the value of the skills required that partly determines the value.

You could argue that the guys who "edit" professional wrestling work hard but I would not assign much value to it.
 
2013-11-19 05:59:42 PM  

homarjr: There are only a handful of acceptable reality shows.

Sports
Discovery Channel
Jeopardy!

That is all.


4.bp.blogspot.com

The only reality show I will watch.
 
2013-11-19 06:11:46 PM  
The only true reality show is viewed through the window next to the TV
 
2013-11-19 06:12:19 PM  

Mr.Tangent: Reality television writers
Reality television writers
Reality television writers

/facepalm


Came here to say this.  Leaving fulfilled.
 
2013-11-19 06:12:49 PM  
If you are a reality show "writer" you really shoul consider killing yourself.
 
2013-11-19 06:18:14 PM  

Bslim: If you are a reality show "writer" you really shoul consider killing yourself.


Bill Hicks!!  And we thought you were dead.
 
2013-11-19 06:39:06 PM  

hasty ambush: Skarekrough: Take all the pot shots....these are the people responsible for trying to put something together of these folks that passes as potentially interesting.

Well when you put it that it sounds difficult but still does not make the work any more honorable or valuable.

Hard work all by itself is not of any value.  It is what you are working hard on and the value of the skills required that partly determines the value.

You could argue that the guys who "edit" professional wrestling work hard but I would not assign much value to it.


Topically, no.  There's no value for it.  But then again I feel that way about football.

However I know that during the season there are editors who barely sleep putting together media for promotions, the league, archives and other projects.  Football could drop off the face of the Earth and it wouldn't change my life in a single way, but I don't de-value the work of those whom put in the hours making it what it is.
 
2013-11-19 06:51:14 PM  
and you thought those guys on 'Pawn Stars' were natural wits...
 
2013-11-19 06:57:19 PM  

Brakefornobody: You get paid to throw darts at a board?


In the context of farting out script ideas, then yes.

in the context of actually playing darts, then also yes.
 
2013-11-19 07:30:25 PM  
Good.
 
2013-11-19 07:48:34 PM  
 
2013-11-19 07:53:44 PM  

SamFlagg: 1) Isn't the fact that you have a writers guild supposed to protect against this?
2) This actually looks way more like the typical "independent contractor BS." where you do everything like an employee except get any kind of social safety net.


The studios simply say they are not writers and refuse to cooperate. The WGA isn't strong enough to force them.

Fun fact: In 2006 the total residuals paid to every writer in the WGA for every movie and TV show sold on DVD worldwide for the whole year was $56 million.
In the same year one studio paid one single exec $60 million when they fired him.

One exec, who had done such a bad job they fired him, got more than every single writer in the WGA added together.
 
2013-11-19 08:39:15 PM  

mercator_psi: I would imagine that "Reality Show TV Writer" is one of the worst jobs that has ever been conceived in the history of the world, rating just below "Rob Ford's PR Guy" but just above "Third Person in Human Centipede".

Or perhaps vice versa.


I'm sorry, they don't get unpaid overtime, they get overpaid undertime.

Anyone "writing" for something like Honey Boo Boo or Duck Dynasty should go home and drink Drano every single night in shame and horror.
 
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