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(News On 6 Tulsa)   A) Get caught with stolen $100k classic '67 Camaro, which you've changed the VIN on and registered it in your name. B) Plead "no contest," get deferred sentence. C) Sue to get car back, since paperwork now matches bogus VIN   (m.newson6.com) divider line 44
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2013-11-19 10:17:00 AM  
D) Profit!
 
2013-11-19 10:17:39 AM  
Also; boobies!
 
2013-11-19 10:23:26 AM  
Oh, that happened in Oklahoma.  For a minute there, I though the US was somehow involved.
 
2013-11-19 10:24:30 AM  
If he was just fighting an owner, he might get a settlement for his trouble if the owner didn't want the hassle of a lawsuit. But now he's fighting an insurance company with vastly greater resources than his own. He's gonna fail hard
 
2013-11-19 10:28:49 AM  
Ballsy.
 
2013-11-19 10:31:09 AM  
I got redirected to some mobile landing page because the coders for that site never got past chapter 3 of Learn Website Design in 24 Hours.
 
2013-11-19 10:31:41 AM  
Now that's chutzpah.
 
2013-11-19 10:38:48 AM  

Russ1642: I got redirected to some mobile landing page because the coders for that site never got past chapter 3 of Learn Website Design in 24 Hours.


Lucky.  I read that this guy and some other guys stole cars from "classic car place" but they were stopped by the police so the hid the cars and then the last guy came back for the cars.  I'm just glad that the stoner from high school has found a job as a journalist.
 
2013-11-19 10:40:59 AM  

ArkAngel: If he was just fighting an owner, he might get a settlement for his trouble if the owner didn't want the hassle of a lawsuit. But now he's fighting an insurance company with vastly greater resources than his own. He's gonna fail hard


Insurance companies, although monolithic giants, are lazy monolithic giants.
 
2013-11-19 10:42:10 AM  
That dude and the Lawyer should get the death penalty.
 
2013-11-19 10:43:30 AM  

Cheron: Russ1642: I got redirected to some mobile landing page because the coders for that site never got past chapter 3 of Learn Website Design in 24 Hours.

Lucky.  I read that this guy and some other guys stole cars from "classic car place" but they were stopped by the police so the hid the cars and then the last guy came back for the cars.  I'm just glad that the stoner from high school has found a job as a journalist.


This is when I think the mob has it right where they would just send a guy over to break one of his fingers, working up towards limbs, each week until he drops his suit.
 
2013-11-19 10:57:15 AM  

Cheron: Russ1642: I got redirected to some mobile landing page because the coders for that site never got past chapter 3 of Learn Website Design in 24 Hours.

Lucky.  I read that this guy and some other guys stole cars from "classic car place" but they were stopped by the police so the hid the cars and then the last guy came back for the cars.  I'm just glad that the stoner from high school has found a job as a journalist.


"Classic car place" was my favorite.
 
2013-11-19 11:01:53 AM  

Starshines: Cheron: Russ1642: I got redirected to some mobile landing page because the coders for that site never got past chapter 3 of Learn Website Design in 24 Hours.

Lucky.  I read that this guy and some other guys stole cars from "classic car place" but they were stopped by the police so the hid the cars and then the last guy came back for the cars.  I'm just glad that the stoner from high school has found a job as a journalist.

"Classic car place" was my favorite.


I saw the same thing.

I'm trying to figure out what the hell kind of 1967 Camaro is work $100,000.  $100k is too high for a Z28, and way too low for a Yenko (at least according to the Googles).

It doesn't have Z28, SS, or RS badges, or engine size badges.  I'm guessing it's a custom restomod and isn't worth a quarter of that on the market.
 
2013-11-19 11:06:16 AM  

Sgt Otter: Starshines: Cheron: Russ1642: I got redirected to some mobile landing page because the coders for that site never got past chapter 3 of Learn Website Design in 24 Hours.

Lucky.  I read that this guy and some other guys stole cars from "classic car place" but they were stopped by the police so the hid the cars and then the last guy came back for the cars.  I'm just glad that the stoner from high school has found a job as a journalist.

"Classic car place" was my favorite.

I saw the same thing.

I'm trying to figure out what the hell kind of 1967 Camaro is work $100,000.  $100k is too high for a Z28, and way too low for a Yenko (at least according to the Googles).

It doesn't have Z28, SS, or RS badges, or engine size badges.  I'm guessing it's a custom restomod and isn't worth a quarter of that on the market.


Given the original owner was pointing out custom features, I imagine that's right. The good old $30,000 car with $70,000 worth of work to it... the owner thinks it's worth $100,000 dollars when nobody else thinks it's worth even $40,000.

I understand why guys do restomods, I just don't see the point... at that point it's just another kit car with the body of a classic. A normal restoration would be more meaningful.
 
2013-11-19 11:18:28 AM  
A *Not* CSB:

 1982, I had a '76 Camaro. Sort of a lame one, 305 engine with automatic trans, but it had white leather seats, I put Cragar rims on it and a kick-ass Alpine stereo with Jensen Triax speakers. It was a true biatchin' Camaro after I hopped it up. It was stolen from in front of my house, a week later my sisters boyfriend spotted it in Detroit (we lived in Det. suburbs). SIs's BF stayed with the car until we got there, they perps had popped the black VIN off the dashboard and replaced it with an orange VIN, but my keys fit the locks so I figured we were good to go. Nope, the cops said since VIN didn't match my registration they had to impound it. A day later they called and said it was stolen off their impound lot. Never saw it again. I'm sure the impound lot-watcher had a nice payday that week.
 
2013-11-19 11:30:50 AM  

bighairyguy: Oh, that happened in Oklahoma.  For a minute there, I though the US was somehow involved.


I would suspect we're going to be part of the US until we have access to a sea port. That'll take either the secession of Texas or a significant rise in sea level.

/not in favor of secession
 
2013-11-19 11:38:01 AM  
apparently Saul is branching out...

cdn3.whatculture.com
 
2013-11-19 11:43:31 AM  
Meh, I've got a 67 SS/RS sitting in a barn I'll let him have for $10k.  Rust free, but needs mucho work.
 
2013-11-19 11:49:36 AM  

farkmedown: bighairyguy: Oh, that happened in Oklahoma.  For a minute there, I though the US was somehow involved.

I would suspect we're going to be part of the US until we have access to a sea port. That'll take either the secession of Texas or a significant rise in sea level.

/not in favor of secession



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McClellan-Kerr_Arkansas_River_Navigatio n_ System

done and done
 
2013-11-19 12:18:13 PM  

dabbletech: farkmedown: bighairyguy: Oh, that happened in Oklahoma.  For a minute there, I though the US was somehow involved.

I would suspect we're going to be part of the US until we have access to a sea port. That'll take either the secession of Texas or a significant rise in sea level.

/not in favor of secession


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McClellan-Kerr_Arkansas_River_Navigatio n_ System

done and done


That's useful only if Arkansas, Mississippi and Lousiana also secede.
 
2013-11-19 12:21:05 PM  
Plus if he can claim the car is his, he can't be convicted of steeling it.
 
2013-11-19 12:37:06 PM  
This guy needs to hang at Judge Parker's convenience.
 
2013-11-19 12:40:04 PM  

Starshines: Cheron: Russ1642: I got redirected to some mobile landing page because the coders for that site never got past chapter 3 of Learn Website Design in 24 Hours.

Lucky.  I read that this guy and some other guys stole cars from "classic car place" but they were stopped by the police so the hid the cars and then the last guy came back for the cars.  I'm just glad that the stoner from high school has found a job as a journalist.

"Classic car place" was my favorite.



I see this fine example of 8th grade writing has already been pointed out.  Carry on!
 
2013-11-19 12:41:15 PM  
Also:

"Why has the case dragged on for three years? That's the court system."

/Cue laugh track
 
2013-11-19 12:41:51 PM  

akula: I understand why guys do restomods, I just don't see the point...


It really depend on the level of customization. Some people pay West Coast Customs $250,000 to pimp out a car that cost them $150,000. For that $400,000 they get a car that is resale-able for maybe half that...but it's completely unique, and customized exactly the way they want it. And that's fine, if you can afford it. On the other hand, Gas Monkey Garage just did a '60 Bel Air. Dropped in a crate LS3, bagged it, big-brake kit, and put in a nice interior. For under $50,000 they get a car that has the cool styling of a classic car, but runs, drives, stops and handles like a modern performance car. Toss in the reliability factor, and it's pretty easy to see why it's so appealing.
 
2013-11-19 12:49:58 PM  

akula: I understand why guys do restomods, I just don't see the point


Also, some cars aren't worth restoring back to original. I had a '68 Firebird that came with a 4.1 liter straight-six, and a 3-speed manual. While the inline six was a good reliable engine, there's no way I was putting that thing back in. Instead, I opted for a 400, 4bbl with a Borg-Warner 4-speed. The six-cylinder cars just aren't very desirable.

And other cars are too far gone to make it feasible to go back to factory spec, so you're really left with little choice but to go the 'custom' route.
 
2013-11-19 12:58:56 PM  
I once knew a fellow who drove a Camaro. It had five-spoke mag wheels, which was the fashion at the time. Down the lane, there was a dog that chased him every time he came around the corner. One day, the fellow stopped. He thought the dog would just get puzzled about what to do next. Nope, the dog tried to jump through the side window and eat his face.

So, the fellow decided to get an old bath towel. Every day, as he turned the corner, he hung the towel out the window. After only a few days, he had the dog trained to snap and chomp at the towel. The fellow was ready for the next stage.

He stuck the towel in and out of the spokes of his left rear rim so that it flopped about as he drove. He did this just before he got to where the dog waited. He then drove slowly around the corner. After only a few more days, he had the dog trained to vent his instincts and anger at the spinning towel.

Finally, the fellow was ready. He approached the corner with the towel in the rim, and instead of turning and taking off, he stopped, just like the first time when the dog tried to eat his face through the window. The dog went straight for the towel and clamped on hard and tried his best to pull the towel out.

The fellow just gunned it and popped the clutch. He said the poor bastard still had enough biting reflex that he went womp-womp on the pavement twice before he was slung past the rear bumper.
 
2013-11-19 01:32:39 PM  

Medic Zero: D) Profit!


No,

D) Drive the Camaro back to the Bahamas.
 
2013-11-19 01:57:15 PM  
snowybunting tell me you sued the towyard...& don't you ever bet against the corruption/incompetence of the Detroit PD ever again
 
2013-11-19 02:10:08 PM  

letrole: The fellow just gunned it and popped the clutch. He said the poor bastard still had enough biting reflex that he went womp-womp on the pavement twice before he was slung past the rear bumper.



I hope the next part of the story is the owner of the dog took a crowbar to the douchebag and his Camaro.

I understand an aggressive dog chasing cars is a problem, but attempting to kill the dog makes the car owner an utter piece of shiat.
 
2013-11-19 02:16:13 PM  

UtopianDevil: letrole: The fellow just gunned it and popped the clutch. He said the poor bastard still had enough biting reflex that he went womp-womp on the pavement twice before he was slung past the rear bumper.


I hope the next part of the story is the owner of the dog took a crowbar to the douchebag and his Camaro.

I understand an aggressive dog chasing cars is a problem, but attempting to kill the dog makes the car owner an utter piece of shiat.


I disagree, that is a great story! Lock up your f-ing dogs if you are worried about this sort of thing.
 
2013-11-19 02:17:21 PM  

84Charlie: I disagree, that is a great story! Lock up your f-ing dogs if you are worried about this sort of thing.


Likewise, lockup your Camaro if you're worried someone's going to take a crowbar to it
 
2013-11-19 02:21:37 PM  

itsdan: 84Charlie: I disagree, that is a great story! Lock up your f-ing dogs if you are worried about this sort of thing.

Likewise, lockup your Camaro if you're worried someone's going to take a crowbar to it


Exactly.
 
2013-11-19 02:36:34 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: akula: I understand why guys do restomods, I just don't see the point

Also, some cars aren't worth restoring back to original. I had a '68 Firebird that came with a 4.1 liter straight-six, and a 3-speed manual. While the inline six was a good reliable engine, there's no way I was putting that thing back in. Instead, I opted for a 400, 4bbl with a Borg-Warner 4-speed. The six-cylinder cars just aren't very desirable.

And other cars are too far gone to make it feasible to go back to factory spec, so you're really left with little choice but to go the 'custom' route.


Exactly, sometimes you find a real gem or a VIN oddity (only 150 made to that spec or w/e) that begs to be lovingly restored to OEM specs. Othertimes you find something so beat up or normally pedestrian that says "yeah, this going to be a real pain-in-the rear project. If I'm putting this sort of time and effort into this thing it is getting mod-rodded out to be something BEASTLY."
 
2013-11-19 02:58:44 PM  
He may have 100K in the car, but it isn't ever going to sell for that. You can find restomod camaros for 20-30K all day long.
 
2013-11-19 03:37:54 PM  

84Charlie: I disagree, that is a great story! Lock up your f-ing dogs if you are worried about this sort of thing.



As I said, the dog chasing cars is a problem. It is a problem that can be dealt with reasonably. The asshole with the Camaro could have attempted to contact the owner of the dog. He could have even called the dog warden who would likely have issued a citation with a fine. Instead we get a dipshiat trying to kill a dog because it chased his car.
 
2013-11-19 03:44:56 PM  

Doc_Gerbil: He may have 100K in the car, but it isn't ever going to sell for that.


If he has $100,00 in it, it probably isn't resale-able for that price, but it may be. The article doesn't give us enough information, but it is possible, especially if the owner did the labor himself.

Doc_Gerbil: You can find restomod camaros for 20-30K all day long.


That's true, but it's entirely dependent on the level of the build, and the build quality. I saw a '69 Camaro resto-mod and a '67 custom Camaro sell for $104,500 each at the Barrett Jackson auction here in Vegas.

Gas Monkey Garage in Dallas (Fast N Loud on Discovery Channel) restores cars, and they do a fine job, but they aren't on the same level as Chip Foose, or West Coast Customs, and the car sale prices reflect that fact.
 
2013-11-19 04:15:21 PM  

ciberido: Medic Zero: D) Profit!

No,

D) Drive the Camaro back to the Bahamas.


biatchin'
 
2013-11-19 04:33:41 PM  

snowybunting: A *Not* CSB:

 1982, I had a '76 Camaro. Sort of a lame one, 305 engine with automatic trans, but it had white leather seats, I put Cragar rims on it and a kick-ass Alpine stereo with Jensen Triax speakers. It was a true biatchin' Camaro after I hopped it up. It was stolen from in front of my house, a week later my sisters boyfriend spotted it in Detroit (we lived in Det. suburbs). SIs's BF stayed with the car until we got there, they perps had popped the black VIN off the dashboard and replaced it with an orange VIN, but my keys fit the locks so I figured we were good to go. Nope, the cops said since VIN didn't match my registration they had to impound it. A day later they called and said it was stolen off their impound lot. Never saw it again. I'm sure the impound lot-watcher had a nice payday that week.


That sucks. I probably wouldn't have got the police involved (hindsight, 20/20). If your keys fit, just get in and drive home, park in the garage until you can get the VIN fixed.
 
2013-11-19 06:12:51 PM  
Pfft. 100 grand for that? 50, tops.

/somewhat familiar with 100+ G Camaros

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2013-11-19 06:43:35 PM  
he plead no contest, so he already admitted in court that the car was not his.
 
2013-11-19 09:11:44 PM  

akula: Sgt Otter: Starshines: Cheron: Russ1642: I got redirected to some mobile landing page because the coders for that site never got past chapter 3 of Learn Website Design in 24 Hours.

Lucky.  I read that this guy and some other guys stole cars from "classic car place" but they were stopped by the police so the hid the cars and then the last guy came back for the cars.  I'm just glad that the stoner from high school has found a job as a journalist.

"Classic car place" was my favorite.

I saw the same thing.

I'm trying to figure out what the hell kind of 1967 Camaro is work $100,000.  $100k is too high for a Z28, and way too low for a Yenko (at least according to the Googles).

It doesn't have Z28, SS, or RS badges, or engine size badges.  I'm guessing it's a custom restomod and isn't worth a quarter of that on the market.

Given the original owner was pointing out custom features, I imagine that's right. The good old $30,000 car with $70,000 worth of work to it... the owner thinks it's worth $100,000 dollars when nobody else thinks it's worth even $40,000.

I understand why guys do restomods, I just don't see the point... at that point it's just another kit car with the body of a classic. A normal restoration would be more meaningful.




Let Mark Stielow show you the point. 2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 vs. Mark Stielow's Red Devil '69 Camaro - HOT ROD Unlimited Episode 13
 
2013-11-19 11:11:13 PM  
More: Asinine, Camaro, deferred sentence, Rodney Rotert, vin numbers

I'm pretty sure subby meant VIN number.  I mean, it's even in TFA and everything!
 
2013-11-20 02:13:46 AM  
"Why has the case dragged on for three years? That's the court system."

No, that's an example of one party abusing process to harass the other into giving up, dipshiat. That's what they're being countersued for in the first place! If it doesn't work, it usually results in huge fees -- and occasionally jail time.

Repo Man: Let Mark Stielow show you the point. 2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 vs. Mark Stielow's Red Devil '69 Camaro - HOT ROD Unlimited Episode 13


And if you don't pop a boner at the earth-shattering roar of a 454 -- I'll be honest here, I get primal urges when I hear one -- a Tesla Model S will get you more than twice the torque and acceleration for half the price, with better handling, at least until it tops out at 130mph.

/Yes, I know that's a 427 in the '69.
 
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