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(Springfield News-Leader)   The Missouri Legislature, known for among other things setting aside the will of the voters 3 years ago to keep puppy mills in the state, changes a state law so that one of their own can avoid punishment for animal abuse   (news-leader.com) divider line 19
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2013-11-19 08:17:01 AM
In Missouri; you don't say. . . .
 
2013-11-19 08:33:10 AM
The Missouri Legislature is the main reason we're so grateful that a sane man is governor.
 
2013-11-19 08:33:30 AM
Inbred Hillbilly Problems
 
2013-11-19 08:51:27 AM
confused here
i thot they had rules like most states that laws did not apply to state officials
 
2013-11-19 09:05:27 AM
The puppy mill ballot measure was a bad idea. Thankfully a collation of rural legislatures helped to over turn it. The only counties were it passed was the KC and StL. It didn't pass in a single rural county.
 
2013-11-19 09:07:33 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: The puppy mill ballot measure was a bad idea. Thankfully a collation of rural legislatures helped to over turn it. The only counties were it passed was the KC and StL. It didn't pass in a single rural county.


'Bad idea'.  According to whom?
 
2013-11-19 09:13:34 AM

Alphax: Mid_mo_mad_man: The puppy mill ballot measure was a bad idea. Thankfully a collation of rural legislatures helped to over turn it. The only counties were it passed was the KC and StL. It didn't pass in a single rural county.

'Bad idea'.  According to whom?




People connected to agriculture. The ballot measure was vaguely worded and overreaching. It would have done nothing to " puppy mills". It would have destroyed legitimate breeders of dogs.
 
2013-11-19 09:19:47 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: Alphax: Mid_mo_mad_man: The puppy mill ballot measure was a bad idea. Thankfully a collation of rural legislatures helped to over turn it. The only counties were it passed was the KC and StL. It didn't pass in a single rural county.

'Bad idea'.  According to whom?

People connected to agriculture. The ballot measure was vaguely worded and overreaching. It would have done nothing to " puppy mills". It would have destroyed legitimate breeders of dogs.


I'm sure that's just some excuse the owners of puppy mills came up with.
 
2013-11-19 09:25:52 AM

Alphax: Mid_mo_mad_man: Alphax: Mid_mo_mad_man: The puppy mill ballot measure was a bad idea. Thankfully a collation of rural legislatures helped to over turn it. The only counties were it passed was the KC and StL. It didn't pass in a single rural county.

'Bad idea'.  According to whom?

People connected to agriculture. The ballot measure was vaguely worded and overreaching. It would have done nothing to " puppy mills". It would have destroyed legitimate breeders of dogs.

I'm sure that's just some excuse the owners of puppy mills came up with.





No. The bill was opposed across the board by every agriculture group. In fact nearly all the money spent to pass it came from out of state meddlers.
 
2013-11-19 09:30:52 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: No. The bill was opposed across the board by every agriculture group. In fact nearly all the money spent to pass it came from out of state meddlers.


Which also doesn't sound credible.
 
2013-11-19 09:36:51 AM

Alphax: Mid_mo_mad_man: No. The bill was opposed across the board by every agriculture group. In fact nearly all the money spent to pass it came from out of state meddlers.

Which also doesn't sound credible.




If I wasn't on my phone I would provide the link to the Star article. It basically showed that out of state animal "rights" group was funding the ads.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2013-11-19 09:46:27 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: People connected to agriculture. The ballot measure was vaguely worded and overreaching. It would have done nothing to " puppy mills". It would have destroyed legitimate breeders of dogs.


In other news, some people believe any ol' line of pig manure that Big Farm feeds them. Overreaching is the "Right To Farm" nonsense they're trying to push right now that will let them ignore local zoning laws.
 
2013-11-19 09:59:02 AM

jbc: Mid_mo_mad_man: People connected to agriculture. The ballot measure was vaguely worded and overreaching. It would have done nothing to " puppy mills". It would have destroyed legitimate breeders of dogs.

In other news, some people believe any ol' line of pig manure that Big Farm feeds them. Overreaching is the "Right To Farm" nonsense they're trying to push right now that will let them ignore local zoning laws.




Right to farm is about existing farms. It's about protecting farms from newcomers. To many idiots build homes next to an existing farm and them start complaining. Fark them.
 
2013-11-19 11:21:53 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: The puppy mill ballot measure was a bad idea. Thankfully a collation of rural legislatures helped to over turn it. The only counties were it passed was the KC and StL. It didn't pass in a single rural county.


Even if it were, is it right that the Legislature can just ignore a Yes vote on a ballot measure?
 
2013-11-19 11:25:24 AM
There's a big difference between breeding dogs and allowing puppy mills.  Puppy mills tend to keep the biatches constantly pregnant, crate them in small cages, and the pups are usually sick from being in close quarters all the time.

True breeders actually treat their animals humanely.  All allowing puppy mills to exist does is allow mismanagement and animal abuse to continue.  But there's plenty of people that have no problem with that if there's money to be made.
 
2013-11-19 11:35:40 AM

themindiswatching: Mid_mo_mad_man: The puppy mill ballot measure was a bad idea. Thankfully a collation of rural legislatures helped to over turn it. The only counties were it passed was the KC and StL. It didn't pass in a single rural county.

Even if it were, is it right that the Legislature can just ignore a Yes vote on a ballot measure?




I rather that then let people living in KC and StL deicide everything.
 
2013-11-19 11:45:50 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: themindiswatching: Mid_mo_mad_man: The puppy mill ballot measure was a bad idea. Thankfully a collation of rural legislatures helped to over turn it. The only counties were it passed was the KC and StL. It didn't pass in a single rural county.

Even if it were, is it right that the Legislature can just ignore a Yes vote on a ballot measure?

I rather that then let people living in KC and StL deicide everything.


Or you can get more of your side to turn up for elections. Evidently you'd rather they rig the system in your favor.
 
2013-11-19 12:01:33 PM

themindiswatching: Mid_mo_mad_man: themindiswatching: Mid_mo_mad_man: The puppy mill ballot measure was a bad idea. Thankfully a collation of rural legislatures helped to over turn it. The only counties were it passed was the KC and StL. It didn't pass in a single rural county.

Even if it were, is it right that the Legislature can just ignore a Yes vote on a ballot measure?

I rather that then let people living in KC and StL deicide everything.

Or you can get more of your side to turn up for elections. Evidently you'd rather they rig the system in your favor.


Ignoring the referendum wasn't done for the mid_mo folks, it was done for Tyson and Smithfield. They're the ones that can get the legislature and governor to agree.
 
2013-11-19 10:09:26 PM
Important part of the article right here:

"Under the law as it existed in 2012, animal neglect, the original charge filed against Simmons, requires substantial harm to come to the animal. But Simmons' original charge never alleged Love's animals had been harmed, only that property had been damaged. "
 
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